Board 8 > Tales of Crestoria Topic 2 - No Earthly Good

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So I may try this game

The big question is are any of the R characters actually usable if you put the resources in or is this like 90% of Gachas where they're just filler


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There isn't such a thing as a R character. Pulling a R gives you a Memoria stone.

SR characters are probably usable if you got dupes of them and will have certain niche uses since the SRs tend to have status effects on them whereas most of the SSRs are raw damage. I'd imagine over time they will get phased out though.

Kinda hate where I am in the Arena rankings right now.

It feels like 1 refresh will push me into the 1500-2000 bracket. 2 refreshes will put me into the 1000-1500 potentially. Then who knows if a 3rd refreshes gets me to the next bracket but if it does then it becomes miserable as it feels like you have to keep refreshing at that point since brackets change every 100 ranks and you get an extra 100 gleamstones. So theoretically you should keep going until it costs more than 2.5 refreshes.

Going to do 1 refresh and see how high it puts me then decide from there. Maybe I'll hit a brick wall of 90-100 teams at some point which will stop me progressing.

what time does the arena close?

I'm in the ~1300 range. It took a bunch of matches to get from ~1600 to here so hopefully I stay in this category before reset.

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I think it closes in 53 minutes. I'm at 1829 so I think 5 more matches may get me to 1500 but will likely leave me just short.

How much Prestige do you have? So I can gauge how many matches away from you I am. I'm at 10820 now

Aw man, that sucks. So many characters I like are R. There is a decent team to be made of SSRs but eh. We'll see. Do a few rerolls.

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Lopen posted...

Aw man, that sucks. So many characters I like are R. There is a decent team to be made of SSRs but eh. We'll see. Do a few rerolls.

Well the other half of this is that people who are R only now, especially major characters, are very likely to get an SSR in the future. So you can always stockpile gleamstones.

I did 4 more multis hoping for Summer Kanonno because a DPS with heal sounds usable. Got 3 SSRs from those 4 pulls but didn't get her. I can't complain though as it did give me Estelle (plus Rita and Milla). The game really doesn't want to give me dupes though. I now have 12 SSRs and the only dupe I've gotten was from a guaranteed SSR ticket, so no dupes from gleamstones.

12100 prestige.

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So about 10 wins

No going for higher rank for me. At work right now. Oh wells

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Yeah, think I'm just going to settle for 1500-2000. Would have to probably spend 80 to get above 1500 and it would only net me an extra 50 gleamstones. Plus may not be enough time to get 10 matches in before season close.

Hmm seems arena is still open so it isn't the same time as last week. It says 20 hours left but then that would be on 7/26 rather than 7/25 like it says so not sure it's that either.

My thing says it ends midnight EST.

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Mine says 2020-07-25 at 21:59:59 which by my time is just over 7 hours 30 mins. Above the Season 2 banner it says 20 hours left.

I know at this time last week the season had ended because I couldn't do arena in the afternoon last Saturday around like 3pm.

Ugh, just lost my arena streak by the closest of margins and then I realized I had never reset my memoria stones after upgrades which absolutely would have made the difference.

I'm sure people know this by now but Ascended SR Memoria's exceed level 50 SSR Memoria. Seems the tipping point is around the level 60 or so mark so by 90 they are a lot better.

For reference:

Max R Spada - HP 6500 / ATK 700 / DEF 450
80 SR Reid Memoria - HP 5138 / ATK 558 / DEF 505
68 SR Reid Memoria - HP 4344 / ATK 472 / DEF 428
50 SSR Velvet Memoria - HP 2310 / ATK 305 / DEF 510 (Technically mine is 3810 / 445 / 620 but that's due to adorns)

EDIT: Guess I can toss a R into there for comparison too

90 SR Reid is 5800/630/570. My Velvet has around 4,000 attack depending on substones.

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Hmm so it seems max SR Reid isn't actually better than a maxed out R unit. It's about the same. Guess they tone down the easily farmable event memorias?

Which means it's probably worth using R's if you can max them out then. They should theoretically surpass SSR's at around 60-65 or so like the event Reid does

so then its better to just use ssrs to awaken the character? unless it has an absurd effect maybe

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That's going to be very situational I think. I would think any with a good effect are worth keeping and anything that fits your subgrid weapon type is also worth keeping as it will be a while before you can field enough memoria that replaces them, especially when you factor in element types

And I would be concerned about feeding them for awakenings in case they make the universal item for improving SSRs Memoria more readily available. I don't think they are going to dole them out like candy but I wouldn't be surprised if they added them to event rewards or exchanges where you can snag one every now and again

But really the point I'm making is don't go converting your Rare Memoria's like they are worthless because they may actually have a use for a while if you get enough duplicates which seems likely.

Heads up, I think Arena closes in 40 minutes.

EDIT: Just noticed in raid it says the time is 1 hour before what the actual time is so it may be 1 hour 40.

Mine still says 12 hours left...

Also, the higher I get in Arena, the more Japanese accounts I see.

Also the more SRs I see, so maybe there's a meta there to still be worked out.

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Yeah, mine says 12 hours so it must be 10am tomorrow morning it resets the the 7/25 part is wrong due to the games time being out of sync by 12 hours.

I think the Meta with the SRs is that status effects are really, really good. Also duplicates are good enough where an SR with some dupes into it will outperform an SSR even if it lacks a MA. Are the SR's you're seeing the ones that have Wildfire (so Emil and Rokurou) because Wildfire is obscenely good.

Think I'm tapping out on the item grind for high level ascension. Spent forever gathering up the materials for just one 80->90 ascension for one character and it gets even worse from there. Game needs a better way of progression outside of 'raid for hours on hours'

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ShatteredElysium posted...

Yeah, mine says 12 hours so it must be 10am tomorrow morning it resets the the 7/25 part is wrong due to the games time being out of sync by 12 hours.

I think the Meta with the SRs is that status effects are really, really good. Also duplicates are good enough where an SR with some dupes into it will outperform an SSR even if it lacks a MA. Are the SR's you're seeing the ones that have Wildfire (so Emil and Rokurou) because Wildfire is obscenely good.

I haven't see any Emils, but plenty of Rokuros. Lots of the wind girl I keep forgetting the name of with the yellow suit. Soooo many Dezels.

Also plenty of the main 3 characters, all as backups. Not sure what's going on there.

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I believe that if you fully awaken Kanata, his attack buff will apply to the whole party even if he is in spot six. That might be what they are doing

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OK...so floor 20 of the Battle Tower is the BIG jump.

Like.....REAAAAAAAAAAL big.

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Yeah people use the main characters because you can get their memoria from the shard shop. So you can fully awaken them if you're willing to convert the SRs you pull. I'm sure fully awakened they have superior stats to an SSR but they also get their passive ability too. Kanata is +11% attack to everyone, Misella is +11% defense to everyone and Vicious is +11% HP to everyone.

I think they are all pretty serviceable. Vicious is a decent hitgen (10 hits on 3CD and 15 hits on 5 CD), Misella is a decent healer (+40% heal on 3 CD) and Kanata is more for his passive I think

UshiromiyaEva posted...

OK...so floor 20 of the Battle Tower is the BIG jump.

Like.....REAAAAAAAAAAL big.

I'm currently stonewalled at Floor 23. I sincerely doubt anyone but the whales will be able to clear the whole thing.

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Good tip for Estelle in Arena; waste your first turn doing a regular attack to every enemy once. Type match for more OL so it's not a total waste. She will waste her First Aid every time.

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Not Repede, but got Ermine's Kanata support!

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Wow the level 3 dark raid is....waaaaay harder than the others.

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Yeah it is. The Dark Hard raid is probably harder than Water Very Hard. Wind is kinda obnoxious as even if you are earth heavy you are still eating poison damage. Earth isn't too bad. And I haven't done Light or Fire yet.

Oh meant to say this a bit back but forgot. Apparently next event raid boss will be fire so you may want to make sure you at least have some serviceable Water units for it.

Water is the only team I have a full man SSR for!

This is forgiveness for an entire event about Wind units when I had no Earth.

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Idle speculation but I'll spoiler tag it anyway. Chapter 5 is coming out soon

Looks like it will be Yuna's chapter so will likely get a Yuna SR from doing it. All the other story SR's have an SSR variant so wouldn't be surprised if we get Yuna SSR on the banner too. People are also speculating that the next tales SSR could be Sophie from Graces due to her being in the DAT mines.

Grrr

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I've mainly been focusing on light and fire raids. I don't have units built with a color advantage so it is pretty tough.

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ShatteredElysium posted...

Oh meant to say this a bit back but forgot. Apparently next event raid boss will be fire so you may want to make sure you at least have some serviceable Water units for it.

Hmm. I only have Kanonno as an SSR, and she's pretty good. Any SRs worth training up?

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Based on my experience in Arena and just personal opinion going over who I have: Veigue, Magilou, Rondoline, and Rutee. If there are others that seem worthwhile I don't have them.

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I finally did the event and got that free SSR ticket and got...

Another Sorey...

Guess I have 2 Star Sorey now lol

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I thought the new event gives a SR+ ticket.

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There's one at 150k event points.

You get 3 at Level 20 of the battlepass!

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yeah, that's what I mean. SR+ tickets, not SSR. So that Sorey is quite lucky

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No

I meant from the challenge 10 for getting an SSR memoria to level 100

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Do far the only SSR ticket I've seen is the ready one you get from one of the early Challenge missions

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Challenge 10 finished gives you SSR Ticket

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Oh, shit....I need to hurry up and beat these side stories for challenge 9, then.

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