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In December, when we find out if the electors fuck over the voters' choices or not.

Mead posted...

Yeah if we realize that Biden has won Ohio and Florida or Texas and Arizona, then theres no real path to 270 for Trump

Considering they're east coast (should be in early) and swing states worth a lot of votes each, I think PA, GA, and NC are key to look at. If Biden gets all 3 or even 2 of 3, we're probably gonna be ok.
Florida going to Biden would single handedly end things, but I will never count on FL to actually have their shit figured out by the end of the night.

Texas comes later and if Biden wins it, presumably he won a shit load of swing states east of it before then, cause holy shit it's literally Texas.

EDIT: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/01/trump-needs-election-day-vote-biden-democrats-dominate-early-voting/6085797002/

In Pennsylvania, Democrats accounted for a massive 68% of the 2.3 million returned mail ballots, more than three times the 22% made up by Republicans. (Pennsylvania does not have traditional in-person early voting but does have early in-person absentee voting.)
Because of the disparity in Pennsylvania, Trump is likely to jump out to a large lead on election night as in-person Election Day results, likely to favor him, are posted. Biden probably will begin erasing the gap as absentee ballots are tallied, which could take days because Pennsylvania does not start processing them until Election Day.
"In a place like Pennsylvania, what he'll need to do from a turnout perspective will be substantial," perhaps topping Biden by 45 percentage points in Election Day voting, Bonier said of Trump. "In others states, like Florida, where there has been more of a Republican turnout operation and they've been able to take advantage of early in-person voting, the margins will certainly be less than that."

Ugh... they don't start the count till election day. So I guess if on election night, the race in PA is close, then Biden probably wins it due to the giant mass of absentee ballots waiting to be counted that Biden won by a 3-to-1 margin (you know, unless a lot of those Democrat voter ballots are from "left-leaning centrists")

ClarkDuke posted...

zeus is a hero, ok? Sarcasm

He's my hero. Here's his theme:

https://youtu.be/Kyvyl4U49V0?t=50

Mild mannered Ryan
Was sitting in the rain
But he got struck by lightning
...And now he's still the same!
He's Lightning Boy!

I get them like once a week. It's funny.

I'm unaffiliated, and my wife is registered Democrat. She doesn't get any texts. I get texts from the DNC, addressed to her, asking for donations.

*shrug*

Zangulus posted...

In Wisconsin they don't open the envelopes until election day... so if it gets rejected you have a very narrow window to go vote... which I can't since I'm 300 miles away.

Yeah, in my topic on mail in ballots, I mentioned that. If your state doesn't start counting until election day, mail in voting was probably a bad idea. Had a link to research that by state. Here:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/79003843/946110289

https://ballotpedia.org/When_states_can_begin_processing_and_counting_absentee/mail-in_ballots,_2020

In 13 states, statutes or 2020-specific rules allow for absentee/mail-in counting to begin before Election Day:
Arizona
Colorado
Delaware
Florida
Hawaii
Maryland
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Jersey
North Carolina
Oregon
Vermont

In another six states, statutes either do not specify when ballot counting can begin or leave the decision to the discretion of local officials:
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Ohio
Oklahoma
Utah

The remaining states and the District of Columbia allow ballot counting to begin either during the day on Election Day or after polls close. See the table below for more detailed information.

Waiting till election day and sitting on them for up to a month is pretty freaking stupid, IMO

EDIT: The info on the webpage has been updated since my original post. Oh well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuVo4fnpLC8

Last chance coming up tomorrow! go out and vote if you haven't already! If you did an absentee ballot, ensure it was received AND accepted.

In a few months we can have a competent leader again.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GhanaSaysGoodbye/comments/j4ds1q/the_trumpian_flu_definitive_mix/

Time is up.
If you didn't early vote or drop off an absentee ballot, go out and vote tomorrow!
Vote for the rule of law, if nothing else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d22Y7p3tER0

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/11/02/texas-2020-elections-update/

Now the locks to the Dems' HQ building are being super glued.

DarkBuster22904 posted...

Trump has also made it patently obvious that any scenario where he loses is because "votes were 'tampered' with." The man's been raging about how the system is conspiring against him since 2016.

He's been laying the groundwork to fight a losing result for years.

Fixed.

Holy shit, Unhinged9 is still trying to convince people that "Democracy has a liberal bias" because more people vote for Democrats...

Fucking YIKES!

Not sure it's what you're looking for, but I've heard the term "gold plated" thrown around sometimes.
In my experience it's used for a situation where a customer/client wants something simple/specific, and the people designing the solution throw in all sorts of other features and crap that balloon out the cost.

Found this on wikipedia for it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_plating_(project_management)

In time management, gold plating is the phenomenon of working on a project or task past the point of diminishing returns. For example: after having met the requirements, the project manager or the developer works on further enhancing the product, thinking the customer will be delighted to see additional or more polished features, rather than what was asked for or expected. The customer might be disappointed in the results, and the extra effort by the developer might be futile.
Gold plating is also considered a bad project management practice for different project management best practices and methodologies such as Project Management Body of Knowledge (PMBOK) and PRINCE2. In this case, 'gold plating' means the addition of any feature not considered in the original scope plan (PMBOK) or product description (PRINCE2) at any point of the project. This is because it introduces a new source of risks to the original planning such as additional testing, documentation, costs, or timelines. However, gold plating does not prevent new features from being added to the project; they can be added at any time as long as they follow the official change procedure and the impact of the change in all the areas of the project is taken into consideration.

LinkPizza posted...

You should. The data transfers over. And I guess you get the ladle or whatever...

Even though I'm buying a physical copy?
You sure? If so, then I guess I should get it just for the ladle, lol

LinkPizza posted... Screw that. Depends on what you mean by completionist. I want to 100% the first one... and Im close-ish...

Well, if you keep enjoying it, then sure.
I put 400 hours into HW1 on Wii U, and probably the same now on Switch. I'm probably like 85%-90% complete with it now, I'll probably go back to it soon in prep for AoC. Gotten like 90%+ of every map done except Master Wind Waker, which is like half done. And most of the Legend mode 2nd skulltulas.
I'll never max out levels and badges, but would like to finish all the maps, aside from Tingle battles. Hate the little bastard.

Really looking forward to HW: AoC. Aside from Xenoblade DE, it'll probably be my GotY.
I'm one of those few people that love both Zelda AND Musou, and this crossover was a longtime wish of mine, and I loved the first game. This one potentially looks even better.
Not sure if I want to play the demo though, then I'll just want to keep playing but have to wait 3 weeks....

papercup posted...

I hope Cia comes back. As you can see, she is best girl.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda_gamepedia_en/images/e/e8/HW_Cia_Render.png/revision/latest?cb=20190721012007

1. Unfortunately, that seems completely implausible
2. Yes, she is!
3. I can't see anything, pic didn't load

papercup posted...

But these musou games really are Grinding: The Video Game. So idk if Ill get it right away. Im still burnt out on FE Warriors, and that was a few years ago.

The trick to musou games is to...not be a completionist.
Get the best weapon/gear for the characters you really like and level them up a good amount, and just get the others along as much as you can w/o investing tons of hours into them.
It's always weird when someone says, "It was fun, but the grind was just annoying after 200+ hours" or whatever.
Like...how many other games did you even play for 200 hours and enjoy? Just quit when it stops being fun... Or even better, take a break, move onto another game, and pick it up again months later to unlock more stuff.

KJ StErOiDs posted...

I think TX will probably go red again this time, but that eventually it'll follow VA and trend more blue.

I'm skeptical a bit.
Literally all it would take is for Republicans to stop portraying Hispanics as tapists and murderers, and eat into even just 10% of their votes, and they have Dems shut out in Texas again.
Dems take their vote for granted going forward, but a lot of them are socially conservative and/or Christian and could easily be brought under the GOP's fold.
This year, w/ all the rage towards Trump, might honestly be the Dems' best shot at it. Of course, that's assuming Republicans do start trying to improve Hispanic outreach...

BlackScythe0 posted...

From what I heard as of thursday for friday more people had voted early in Texas than had voted at all in 2016. That terrifies republicans, just think about that. More people using their American rights terrifies republicans! They know how horrible their platform is and how unbelievable it is that people would want to vote for them. So instead of trying to earn votes they just rely on assaulting our rights.

Yup. Anything w/ a shred of moral integrity would vote such barbarians out of office even if they agreed w/ them politically, just because trying to block people's fundamental rights is abhorrent to anybody w/ basic human decency.

That won't make it better.

I mean...if Trump wants to go full on tyrrany, I'm not sure the moderates and left can prevent it by force. It's genuinely terrifying to think about. Counting entirely on the military to ignore their overall right-leaning political stances and actually obey their oath of service, to defend the Constitution...NOT the president.

likehelly posted...

you see pcup

you were told all that by the people who think that stuff is okay to do

Including the president, who responded to the bus incident with his approval.

Mead posted...

If they steal the election, this law and order president is gonna be dealing with the largest riots this country has ever seen

The cops will just gleefully see that as a huge opportunity to indiscriminately shoot a metric fuck ton of U.S. citizens. Basically their wet dream.

Saw reference to the "Biden bus" in another topic, so figured I'd look it up...

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/31/biden-trump-texas-bus/

The Federal Bureau of Investigation is looking into a Friday incident in which a group of Trump supporters, driving trucks and waving Trump flags, surrounded and followed a Biden campaign bus as it drove up I-35 in Hays County, a law enforcement official confirmed to The Texas Tribune Saturday.
The confrontation, captured on video, featured at least one minor collision and led to Texas Democrats canceling three scheduled campaign events on Friday. The campaign officials cited safety concerns for the cancellations.
The highway skirmish came as Democrats close ground in a state that is polling like a potential battleground in the race for president. Recent polls indicate the presidential race in Texas between President Donald Trump and Joe Biden is tight, with some national prognosticators calling it a toss-up.
Rather than engage in productive conversation about the drastically different visions that Joe Biden and Donald Trump have for our country, Trump supporters in Texas [Friday] instead decided to put our staff, surrogates, supporters, and others in harms way, said Tariq Thowfeek, Texas communications director for the Biden campaign.

But that's just clear cut violence and physical intimidation, so let's jump to another crime that's more subtle and disgusting:

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/31/harris-county-drive-thru-votes/

For 18 days of early voting, Harris County residents waited in line, had their identities verified by poll workers, and cast their votes in a presidential election that has seen record-breaking early turnout.
But for the nearly 127,000 people who did so at drive-thru polling places instead of in traditional indoor sites, many are now watching with fear as a wealthy conservative activist, a Republican state representative and two GOP candidates aim to throw out their ballots at the last minute. In the states most populous and largely Democratic county, drive-thru voters are left anxiously awaiting court decisions before Election Day on Tuesday that could force them to go back to the polls. Likely many more are unaware of their votes' potential demise.

Two lawsuits by the group of plaintiffs have been filed in recent days after a similar challenge was already rejected by the all-Republican Texas Supreme Court.
We thought it was fine, and then I see these stories, she said, referring to the lawsuits seeking to toss the votes. We can both still go on Tuesday and vote if we have to, but I want to know. If my votes going to be thrown out, when are we going to know thats the case?

"But ...but... this has never been done before, so it's understandable these lawsuits were filed so close to the election!"

Harris County first tested drive-thru voting in the July primary runoffs with little controversy, and the countys 10 drive-thru centers were established for the fall election to make early voting easier for people concerned about entering polling places during the pandemic. Voters pull up in their cars, and after their registrations and identifications have been confirmed by poll workers, are handed an electronic tablet through their car windows to cast ballots.

"Oh...."

Now, let's learn who's behind this shit:

The plaintiffs, all Republicans, are conservative activist Steven Hotze, state Rep. Steve Toth of The Woodlands, congressional candidate Wendell Champion and judicial candidate Sharon Hemphill.
Hotze is an active GOP donor and is one of the most prolific culture warriors on the right. He's a fierce opponent of same-sex marriage and was a key figure in the unsuccessful push for the 2017 "bathroom bill" in the Texas Legislature. This year, he has filed numerous lawsuits seeking to overturn Gov. Greg Abbotts coronavirus restrictions and block Harris Countys efforts to make it easier for people to vote. And he left a voicemail for Abbotts chief of staff this summer telling him to shoot and kill people protesting the in-custody death of George Floyd.

Hopefully based on prior attempts by this fucking psychopath that failed, this also will. But being so close to the election and leaving those 127K voters in limbo is especially vile.

Teeing up a massive potential disenfranchisement of Harris County voters, the Republicans are asking the courts to not only declare drive-thru voting illegal in Texas, but to throw out the votes cast at such polling locations. An earlier legal challenge against drive-thru voting brought by Hotze, Hemphill and the Harris County Republican Party was rejected by the Texas Supreme Court last week.
(Voters who used the drive-thru option are subjected to the same verification requirements as those who vote in traditional polling places.)
Harris County officials have continued to defend the legality of the program, and noted that the Texas secretary of states office had approved of drive-thru voting. Keith Ingram, the states director of elections, said in a court hearing last month in another lawsuit that drive-thru voting is a creative approach that is probably okay legally, according to court transcripts.

YoukaiSlayer posted...

Why? Why is that concerning?

Because Republicans are so fucking terrible that even with the incumbency advantage, they put forth a candidate so horrific that he has no chance in hell of winning the popular vote, and instead they have to rely on stealing the election through some combination of the electoral college and voter intimidation/suppression?

I mean yeah, that is pretty concerning. It's bad enough having only two choices, now we only have one.

Didn't even remember it was Halloween until a few hours ago.
Watching a playthough of Clock Tower (SNES), then probably listen to my usual Halloween musical suite ("I Put a Spell On You" from Hocus Pocus, "Halloween" by Aqua, and "Drama" by Delerium)

Metalsonic66 posted...

Georgia is one of those states where it's mostly blue in the city and mostly red elsewhere

So, like...nearly every state.

Georgia and NC seem to be slowly turning blue-leaning in general. It'll never be solidly blue, but I think going forward at least in presidential election years (insert rant about liberals and the youth vote not showing up in off-years), Dems will have the edge in those states.

Florida, if Dems win it, will be solely due to COVID and Trump and the GOP's willingness to let old people die off to keep the stock market up, and how much of FL's population is elderly. If that hadn't happened, Trump probably would've easily carried the state. I'm still skeptical Dems will win it, because Florida is full of Florida Man and thus is prone to chronic stupidity. But it'll be very close.

I'm mostly interested in PA, NC, and GA. Those are east coast states worth a lot of votes and should have results early in the night. If Biden sweeps all 3 or even 2 of the 3, he should have the election in the bag. Obviously FL alone probably wins it for him, but i have no faith in that state, or for it to have a winner by the end of the night.

adjl posted...

Without looking into it in any great detail, I'd assume it's a similar situation to the whole Sunni/Shiite Muslim thing, where one is persecuting the other (can't remember which was which) for being an inferior sect of Islam. If that's the case and the Uighurs are a similarly disenfranchised minority among Muslims, I could see the dominant denomination wilfully disregarding their suffering.

And that makes it better...how?

In any case, I'm sure it's financial reasons. China does a lot of business w/ those countries and is pretty infamously known for, especially in Africa, giving financial aid and "sweetheart deals" without any strings attached pushing for stuff like democracy and the governments of those countries not brutalizing their own people and such. The pesky kind of stuff the U.S. typically pushes for when it provides aid.

Good for Macron! Did France really enact a literal "blasphemy law" prohibiting the depiction of Mohammed? That's so super fucking fucked up, if so.

Now, maybe he'll really grow a spine and point out the hypocrisy of condemning Israel for their "treatment of Palestinians" despite: a) Palestinians having better and safer lives in Israel than under Hamas and b) the fact that Israel is protecting itself from endless bouts of rocket attacks, bombing attempts, and other terrorist attacks on its civilian population from Palestinians.

...I'm not holding my breath waiting on that one....

Noop_Noop posted...

Meanwhile, China is committing genocide on millions of muslims and they dont seem to be protesting that. The fact that Marcon was actually willing to publicly point out that hypocrisy is fucking rare from the leaders in that part of the world, and i applaud him.

Oh, they're doing worse than not protesting it.
A majority of Muslin-lead countries signed a letter a few years ago defending China for their actions!
While out of the other side of their mouth continuing to bash Israel. You can't even make this shit up, it's so insane.

EDIT: source
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-mass-detentions-uighur-muslims-un-letter-human-rights-a9003281.html

Ambassadors of 37 states from Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Latin America praised Chinas contribution to the international human rights cause in the letter sent to the UN's Human Rights Council on Friday.
The states, including prominent members of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, said China had faced terrorism, separatism and religious extremism in Xinjiang.
But the signatories said China had restored peace and security in the region through counterterrorism measures and vocational training.
We note with appreciation that human rights are respected and protected in China in the process of counterterrorism and de-radicalisation, the letter read.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/31/voting-2020-news-updates-texas-voter-numbers-covid-florida-poll/6069630002/

With three days until Election Day, more than 90 million people have already voted more than two-thirds of the total votes counted in the 2016 general election, according to Michael McDonald, a professor at the University of Florida who runs the U.S. Elections Project.
"The numbers are stunning," McDonald said in an update on his website this week. "The pace of some states' early voting is such that with almost certainty states will begin surpassing their total 2016 total vote this week."
One such voter who talked to USA TODAY this week: Barbara Duvall who at age 99 survived COVID-19, pneumonia and five days in the hospital. She voted for the very first time last week.
"I guess I didn't have time before because of my kids, my husband and our family. I stayed with them," she said. "I decided this time that I wanted the right man in there."

Looking good! 90 million votes ALREADY cast! It's a shame that the primary motivator for people to vote is anger. But this year, the majority of the country is very, VERY angry! And for damn good reason. Brazenly stealing a 2nd Supreme Court pick so they can end abortion and Obamacare then literally immediately afterwards disbanding the Senate till after the election w/o passing a 2nd stimulus to actually help people was a pretty fucking stupid move, a true nail in the coffin on 4 years of terror and tyranny.

#EndTheNightmare

(if you haven't voted yet though, still do so. Take nothing for granted. Make the results so fucking lopsided and blatant that there's no room for Trump and the GOP to try and rhetorically weasel their way out of it)

Far-Queue posted...

People who only bother to vote the top of the ticket and don't see a need to vote in their local elections and on ballot measures are uninformed, ignorant, and, frankly, very stupid.

Agreed. And w/ all the early and mail in voting, people have ample opportunity to research before filling in their ballots.

That said, I *tried* to become informed of all the local elections on my ballot and outright couldn't find info on several of the candidates (or there was a ballotopedia entry w/ almost nothing besides their name), and there were other races w/ no one else running at all, so it really was pointless.
I was especially disheartened that all of the judges up for election were running unopposed. There's a bunch of civil rights issues I'd like to determine my choice based off of, that ended up not mattering b/c there literally was no other option.
And this is in 2020, a presidential election AND a census year, one of the largest elections in our lifetime that was obviously going to be high voter turnout. If the other side can't be bothered to field a candidate this year, what fucking hope is there for other years?

RIP

One of the best actors of all time, and the best Bond.

The action scenes, sex and exotic locations were a winning formula.
In truth, his Bond is now a museum piece; the portrayal of women impossibly dated. The action scenes are still thrilling, but the sex too often bordered on the non-consensual.
Thankfully, its been a while since 007 slapped a woman on the backside and forced a kiss. But Connery's performance was of its time, enjoyed by millions of both sexes and gave the silver screen a 20th Century icon

I hate the modern era so much, and that the author felt the need to go on an SJW rant in an article about his passing, of all places.

OhhhJa posted...

Same here. We finally ran out a couple of days ago but we're gonna make our own

I went shopping today, and it was...something.

Three grocery stores, not a single one had any disinfectant spray or wipes.
But one of the stores literally gave every customer a free 4 pack of TP and a large bottle of hand soap, as "customer appreciation" (ie, "crap, we have way too much of this shit in stock now!"...not that I'm complaining about getting free stuff :p)

Like, damn.... That really highlighted the disparity between stuff that used to be impossible to find and stuff that's STILL impossible to find!

Zangulus posted...

Literally a textbook case of Stand Your Ground when unknown assailants break into an apartment with guns drawn and said assailants get away with literal murder and then sue the victim.

Unfortunately, Stand Your Ground only seems to apply to white people.
When black people like Kenneth Walker or Trayvon Martin feel threatened and try to stand their ground, the law suddenly doesn't exist.

SYG is a terrible, fucking stupid law anyway. But in this case, Walker should be protected by Castle Doctrine, a much more sensible and universal law than SYG

1337toothbrush posted...

Already mailed my ballot in weeks ago and confirmed it was received. I'm lazy, but I can also can see ahead and knew it'd be more work to put it off.

Did you confirm the ballot was accepted, or just that it was received?
Make sure they accepted it, or else your vote won't get counted if you don't rectify it in time.

@1337toothbrush

Toblerone is my fave. Rolo is my 2nd fave. Not sure either counts as a "candy bar", so 3rd fave is 100 Grand.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/79003843

I tried to get people to do it early.
But yes, way too late now to mail it in and hope it's received on time and accepted.

I would have recommended ballot drop boxes anyway, since it's more direct and they're picked up daily or even multiple times a day.
But at this point, even that is unwise.

If you procrastinated and waited this long to do anything, you should really be voting in person if at all possible. Ideally early voting, if it's an option, since the lines will still be less than election day (and who knows if you wait till then if bad weather or some emergency keeps you from going to vote).
If you absolutely must do the mail in ballot now, bring it to an official drop box, like...right fucking now, or tomorrow.
Check online frequently to see the status, that it was received and then that it was approved. If it's not received or is rejected, you need to allow yourself time to find out and rectify the problem (probably by voting in person, sorry) before the close of the polls on Nov. 3rd.

538 needs to kindly shut the fuck up and quit making people complacent.
Report on state polling, sure.
these fucking gambling odds for the overall election are cancerous, though

Judgmenl posted...

House votes for the President in an Electoral College tie.

If only it were that fair (which it already arguably wouldn't be)

It's actually not just a straight up House vote. It's like one vote per state. Which means Republicans auto-win, b/c they control more states (but less population). Which makes you wonder why the fuck it isn't just a Senate vote at that point, since that's the branch of Congress that's equal representation for each state...

FatalAccident posted...

Im not American. So if the house has an existing republican majority already then its likely trump would win in that scenario?

Dems control the House now and are pretty much certain to next year as well, though. But it doesn't matter, b/c the people who wrote the Constitution didn't expect our politics to devolve into hyper partisan two party warfare. I mean, they should have...they're the ones that set us up to fail w/ first past the post voting and the electoral college, but yeah.

Anyway, a tie = Trump victory.

Twindragonfang posted...

This is literally manslaughter. And fleeing the scene of a crime.

I'd say murder.

Took aim at what is clearly a person (he was wearing an orange hat!), sitting next to another person, and shot right at the dude's neck.
Then ran off immediately afterward so he wouldn't be identified.

Hopefully the insanely concilliatory tone from the cops is just to lull him into turning himself in and they have no actual intention of even considering this an accident.

So, you know how there's a lot of Americans forced into crippling debt by medical bills, that have their lives destroyed for having the bad luck to become ill, and how rare it is for them to be given a break from their debt?
You know how Trump's fighting tooth and nail to end the ACA (Obamacare) and won't even consider Medicare for All, thus ensuring such stories continue and get worse?

https://twitter.com/i/events/1321278585538105344

https://twitter.com/davidenrich/status/1321202566584324098

I guess when you're rich and famous, they just let you do it.
Imagine if regular people got treated even the slightest bit as favorably as Trump w/ his debt.

Also, LegalEagle put out a good video on why a vote for Joe Biden is a vote for the rule of law, for those who claim to care about that sort of thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d22Y7p3tER0

Jen0125 posted...

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJmXaCAV/

Is there a version of the video that's on some other website?

papercup posted...

He left them to die, and theyre still voting for him.

They were a prop for his photo op

He needed buses to get them to the photo op
Once it was over, it doesn't matter what happens to them

And yeah, they're still all voting for him. "If he'd do this to his most ardent supporters, just think what he'll do to those libs!"

Talking about Democrat emails that were illegally stolen and revealed by Russia = Donald Trump approves

Talking about the ongoing pandemic his admin. completely failed at mitigating the spread and harm of = election law violation

Go fuck yourself, pumpkin head

I think the term limit thing while nice in theory, isn't worth expending the political effort on.
Apparently it'd take an amendment to do that, which is fucking impossible.
And then it'd still be awkward since justices aren't appointed with any specific periodicity right now, so you could end up w/ a bunch forced out at weird times. Unless you grandfather in everyone 2020 and prior, which is even fucking stupider b/c then you're sealing in that conservative super majority while handcuffing your own court additions, and since the Dems would be increasing the court, all of them would get term limited out around the same time, possibly handing a glut of openings to Republicans down the line.

It's just...dumb and not worth it.

Decoy77 posted...

Hopefully soon less unborn children.

Protip: Soon will be a good time to invest in the stock of companies that make wire clothing hangers

out of the options listed, it's Trump or Reagan.
The absolute worst president of all time is Andrew Jackson, though.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Realistically speaking the guy that came after Lincoln really fucked up reconstruction which is a good part of why we have a president like Trump today.

He's also up there (or... "down there"?) as one of the absolute worst ever.

BlackScythe0 posted...

TBH I read through the article expecting a new quote from the turtle. It's just a rehashing of what we've all been saying "Democrats are going to have to answer to their constituents anger if they have the power" and "this topic is being breached by very non-radical establishment democrats"

Yeah, it's just nice to see articles laying it out now and not just people on some forum.

Republicans are shredding our democratic institutions b/c they constantly get away w/ it, get rewarded for it, and can count on the spineless Democrats to never fight back.
And now even moderates are waking up that the gloves need to fucking come off.

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/26/927803214/62-million-and-counting-americans-are-breaking-early-voting-records

With one week still remaining until Election Day, Americans have already cast a record-breaking 66 million early ballots, putting the 2020 election on track for historic levels of voter turnout.
That's some 19 million more pre-election votes than were cast in the 2016 election, according to the U.S. Elections Project, a turnout-tracking database run by University of Florida professor Michael McDonald.
"It's good news, because we were very much concerned about how it would be possible to conduct an election during a pandemic," he said, citing concerns that mail-in ballots would be returned by voters en masse at the conclusion of the early voting period, overwhelming election officials. "Instead, what appears to be happening is people are voting earlier and spreading out the workload for election officials."

:D
It's going so smoothly, it's almost like this is how it should be every election, and not just this year due to a pandemic forcing a certain party to relent on allowing more early voting and mail in ballots....

In 2019, McDonald predicted that 150 million people would vote in 2020's general election, which would be a turnout rate of about 65% the highest since 1908.
But he's going back to the drawing board.
"I have increasingly been confident that 150 [million] is probably a lowball estimate," he said Monday. "I think by the end of the week I'll be upping that forecast."

In Texas, for example, 7.8 million early votes had been cast as of Tuesday morning, marking 87% of the state's total votes in 2016.
Montana, North Carolina, Florida and Georgia have also reached 67% or more of their 2016 vote totals.

A surge in youth voters
People ages 18 to 29 are turning out to vote early in a big way.
According to data from the Center for Information & Research on Civic Learning and Engagement, or CIRCLE, a research center at Tufts University, the numbers of young people voting early have skyrocketed, particularly in states that will be critical for Biden and Trump to win, such as Michigan, Florida and North Carolina.
As of Oct. 21, 257,720 young voters in Florida had voted, according to CIRCLE. That's nearly 214,000 more than had voted at that time in 2016.
In Texas, almost 500,000 18- to 29-year-olds had cast their ballots by Oct. 21. However, there isn't data from 2016 with which to compare youth turnout.
Young people could wield significant political power: Millennials and some members of Generation Zmake up 37% of eligible voters, roughly the same share of the electorate that baby boomers and older voters ("pre-boomers") make up, according to census data analyzed by the Brookings Institution.
For decades, youth voters have showed up to the polls at relatively low rates, a statistic voter education groups have been working to change this year.

More time for people to enjoy Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity and Immortals Fenyx Rising

teddy241 posted...

Is it safe to consume a 2 year old energy drink?

It's about as safe as consuming any other energy drink.

ssj4supervegeta posted...

isn't it also fair to say that the democrats were totally in favour of obama appointing a justice during an election year, but now that someone they dont like is in office they're against it? almost like people want different rules in place at different times to suit what they think benefits them personally, rather than what is most fair.

Republicans left a court seat open an entire year so that "voters could decide", then rushed to fill a seat literally a week before the election.

They're the ones that keep changing the "rules" to suit their needs and plunder all that they can. You seem to have it backwards.
Perhaps if Republicans hadn't pulled that shit w/ Garland, and even went to cartoon villainy levels of evil such as stating their intent to steal the seat literally hours after Scalia had died, Dems wouldn't call them out on their FUCKING HYPOCRISY right now.

So, this is something...

https://www.history.com/news/supreme-court-justices-number-constitution

Only since 1869 have there consistently been nine justices appointed to the Supreme Court. Before that, Congress routinely changed the number of justices to achieve its own partisan political goals, resulting in as few as five Supreme Court justices required by law under John Adams to as many as 10 under Abraham Lincoln.
The U.S. Constitution is silent about how many justices should sit on the Supreme Court. In fact, the office of Chief Justice only exists because its mentioned in the Constitution under Senate rules for impeachment proceedings (When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside...).
Its Congress, not the Constitution, that decides the size of the Supreme Court, which it did for the first time under the Judiciary Act of 1789. When George Washington signed the Act into law, he set the number of Supreme Court justices at six.

By the start of the Civil War, the number of Supreme Court justices had increased to nine in order to cover additional circuit courts in the expanding American West. But Abraham Lincoln, upset over the Supreme Courts 1857 decision in Dred Scott and wanting to cement an anti-slavery majority on the Court, added a 10th justice in 1863.
After the Civil War and Lincolns assassination, Congress clashed with Lincolns successor, Andrew Johnson, who was rapidly undoing the Radical Republicans plan for Reconstruction. To limit Johnsons power, Congress passed legislation in 1866 that cut the number of Supreme Court justices back to seven, all but assuring that Johnson wouldnt have the opportunity to fill a vacant seat.
The last time Congress changed the number of Supreme Court justices was in 1869, again to meet a political end. Ulysses S. Grant was elected president in 1868 with the backing of the congressional Republicans who had hated Johnson. As a gift to Grant, Congress increased the number of justices from seven back to nine, and Grant gamely used those picks.

9 is far from the sanctified number we think it is, anyway.
Someone on Reddit suggested Dems pass a law tying the number of SC justices to the number of circuit courts, adding some so they in turn get 2 new justices as revenge.
Then Republicans would have to add more circuit courts to stack the court further.

It's something.... Fuck Mitch McConnell for even making this a discussion...

Wanded posted...

they didn't get cheated, the senate didn't approve their picks

The senate never voted on their picks in the first place

BlackScythe0 posted...

The odd number is really the only reason for two. We're owed one, but the court can't be left even.

Nah, Dems got cheated out of 2 picks.

11 months is not even close to the election. Then Republicans changed their standards the second it was convenient for them. Fuck 'em. This is war now, I don't give a shit anymore.

Add 2 Supreme Court seats. Put in term limits, too.
Add Puerto Rico and D.C. as states (and thus 4 more Senate seats)
Pass a law making abortion legal (right now its legality rests on decades of court decisions, time to end that)

WTF? Hasn't it only been like 2 weeks?
Wow, they really don't give a shit about the will of the voters, didn't even bother to wait till the lame duck session after the election to just give America the middle finger.

argonautweakend posted...

I feel like increasing the court by two would make some sense, since in 2016 republicans refused to give Merrick Garland a hearing, using the reasoning of "no new justices in an election year" only to intentionally not have that reasoning follow suit when the same scenario happened 4 years later(which is to say, if that's the reasoning you wanna use, Ginsburg dying in September is a hell of a lot closer to election day than Scalia in February). All that and you still keep an odd number of justices.

Yup. They've stolen two seats now, so taking 2 back is bare minimum acceptable retaliation. Plus, you need to keep it an odd number anyway, like you said.