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billcom6 posted...

urban dictionary only has one entry for play brother and it is totally different than what TC is saying

because people use the term play brother and sister as a way to hid an inappropriate relationship.

anyway the vigil is tomorrow so I was just thinking of calling her that morning.

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fan357 posted...

Its amazing how upset people are at Terry Crews. Its like you live in a bomb shelter or something. There are some very racist black people out there and we dont want them to twist BLM to their horrible vision. We want equality. We dont want any race to be viewed as better than any other.

people are upset with terry crews because he now has a track record of impeding pro black movements to appease white people, this isnt a single thing.... like hes been doing this for over two years now.


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Scotty_Rogers posted...

This is an actual term?

Just say close or childhood friend ffs

its not a recent or new term, youre just white

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Duncanwii posted...

Play Brother?

not her actual brother but someone she grew up with and the little brother of a close friend of hers

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For me to go to his candle light vigil.

i wanna be supportive of her but at the same time I dont wanna make the event about us seeing each other and its ways to be supportive while still giving her her space.

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AmericaTheBrave posted...

I'm surprised there is anti-Semitism in the black community. In my experience as a black person, most of us just see Jews as white people. Don't bother making a difference.

honestly It youve ever actually heard the Nation speak (which most blacks people in major cities have at some point) their isnt really a lot actual anti semitism, the nations inward messsge is almost entirely pro black to the point nobody really hears about the beef with Jewish people

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Bump

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YugiNoob posted...

I'm guessing Goku can move faster than it would take a thought to reach Ben's head, given how stupid broken they're making Saiyans these days. The real problem lies in this

It's like WTF why even have a show if magic watch will always save the day <_<

The watch spends most of the series with various limiters on it because Ben is childish AF most of the time. Anytime the limiters have been removed Ben has curb stomped.

its a future version of Ben that is every single alien at once while remaining human

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The main argument was Ben as a saiyan vs goku

but goku cant bear saiyan Ben without UI and even that is a tough beat if Ben knows how to go SSJ

the transforms into the apex of the alien feature is broken

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boxington posted...

interesting.

...maybe he should transform into a Kryptonian instead

hed be better than Superman, at least from a physical standpoint

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BipBapBam posted...

Most Saiyans were scrubs though. Just copying Goku's DNA wouldn't give him access to all of Goku's powers and transformations since those are things he had to train for, Ben wouldn't just get them for free because he became a Saiyan.

He'd probably be even weaker than Raditz considering he has no idea how to control ki which isn't a Saiyan power.

nope !!!!

hes likely stronger than broly with at least base level ki attacks and flight. Even if he cant go super saiyan right away its totally something someone of that level of prodigy could obtain pretty easily.

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boxington posted...

he could turn into a Saiyan, probably, but there are no Saiyans on Goku or Vegeta's level, iirc, so idk what that would do.

The omnitrix transforms you into the absolute apex of that race.... so at they very least hed be as strong as base broly.

SH_expert44 posted...

What a shit argument

i find it hilarious personally because Ben 10 is one of the more subtly broken characters in recent history, like its barely mentioned but one of his best powers is you cant kill him while the watch is attached...... and the watch will react to any hostile attempts to remove it


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The idea is if Ben 10 transforms into a sayian would that sayian beat goku

Of course Ben 10 wins though

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Curious to see if peoples opinions have changed, especially with the extremely similar Ahmaud Arbery

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Tenlaar posted...

No, we haven't been talking about her being forced to do this. Did you not even bother to read the thread before coming to this conclusion? People are talking about the disconnect in logic between the intention and the conclusion. They start from a point of "a white person shouldn't play a bi-racial character" and somehow they don't end up at "we should hire a bi-racial voice actor" but rather "we should hire a black voice actor."

no youre being obtuse because we already said a black voice actor isnt the best to speak on a bi racial experience.

we also said a Character with biracial experience typically also has a black experience the black voice actor could speak to.

we also said none of this is necessary if people write and voice characters with love respect and attention to detail.

because no one said


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Gamerguymass posted...

So then is it "ignorant" of developers to hire black actors to voice white characters?

is the character being white of importance to the character?

if so I wouldnt call it inherently ignorant but could very quickly become such.

if not then who cares.


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nemu posted...

In the case of acting, you wouldn't really be speaking anything. You're just parroting lines written for you. Should we go even further? Should only black writers write for black characters? If the main director/producer is not black, should there be a secondary black director hired to direct scenes involving black characters? The only thing I would expect is that they consulted with experts on the subject matter and portray it in a positive light. So long as we foster an environment in which black actors are not turned down for being black, then that's as far as we should go. This kind of mindset seems to be a major over-correction attempt.

I feel like your missing the point.

People feel like there should be black writers and voice actors for black characters because people feel like the subject matters ARENT being treated with proper care and respect


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Tenlaar posted...

But Missy can't talk about what it's like to be black, only what it's like to be bi-racial with a white Jewish mother, so by your logic they should be saying they are going to find a bi-racial voice actor, not a black one.

Also, wouldn't that be more about the writers, not about the voice actor?

lets be real here, mixed people are viewed as both black and mixed, as two separate things. So while a black voice actor could talk about being black, its probably not best for them to talk about what it like being mixed.

and yes its mainly a writers issue, but its not solely a writers issue.

nemu posted...

That's a very weird standard for who should voice who. You could argue that someone who has a real life experience can potentially turn that experience into a better performance, but it's not really necessary.

its not really about being a better performance, but more about being authentic, I as a black man probably shouldnt get on tv and speak about what its like to be a white man from a white mans perspective

For what its worth I def think it can be done, but it requires a lot of care.

and personally its not even that you shouldnt do the character at all, its more you should use that character as a mouth piece if youre gonna do that, especially without putting a lot of care and research into it


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Gamerguymass posted...

So its ok for a black person to voice a white character. Its ok for a black person to play a white character. But a white person can't even voice a half white character? I mean seriously what is this bullshit? And then progressives wonder why so many people get sick of their shit. Don't do stupid things like this and people wouldn't get so bent out of shape all the time.

two things

name a black voice actor voicing a white character that can be described as the white character of the show.

the problem isnt one race voicing a Character of different race.

The problem is Jenny slate shouldnt be voicing missy if missy is gonna talk about what its like to be black..


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Her voicing the character isnt an issue unless missy has race related storybeats, which I cant recall any, but thats just as much of a problem as a white writing team writing a race related story.

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Confirmation bias

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ChuckSDeuces posted...

The same people who say this said the economy wasn't worth it which really shows how stupid some people are

so money >>>> peoples lives ?


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AceAttorneyist posted...

It's not that they didn't say anything. On the contrary, they very openly supported the protests while condemning other forms of gathering. Not that that really makes much sense. If the protesters wore masks and distanced 6 feet apart I could see the logic.

The CDC, like most people there weighed the odds and decided racism was worth the risk,


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CADE FOSTER posted...

Trump dont give a shit about people of color we need to stop this shit its been proven over and over

Oh I know, this is just so tone deaf its actually funnyc

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Like Tulsa that just had the 79 anniversary of the biggest race riot ever Tulsa, on Juneteenth no less.

This is either the most tone def thing Ive ever heard or hes subtly trying to start another riot.

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Blue_Dream87 posted...

Minority Karens lack that sense of entitlement that they deserve something. Instead theyre just taking it.

this

which is why Karen typically refers to white women

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I know I said the last response was the last response but what profession outside of professional Rope noose maker would prevent you from making any sort of statement. Even then its not stopping you from making any sort of donation.

at this point youre just trolling

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Artemis86 posted...

"I don't condone politically motivated violence and murder" is apparently now a purity test.

Do you support violently harming or even killing those you disagree with?

when youre applying that to the entire belief yeah it is a purity test, if one dudes actions voided not only the Organization but the beliefs behind said organization you where already looking for a reason not to support, everyone else see it and thats why people are calling you out

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Do you realize how ridiculous you sound.

i know doing this hasnt worked for 70 years, but you should keep doing it cause maybe at year 75 everyone will change their minds. And the last thing you wanna do is piss off the people who have already decided they wont do anything either way

This is my last reply to you because youve already decided you dont care to do ANYTHING, you just dont wanna be lumped in with the racist you considering family and friends.

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wackyteen posted...

You're missing the point where the original person in the article was saying cut off those who won't support. It goes beyond just asking and accepting if they won't/don't. It's actively shaming them for not.

im not missing the point, cause thats never been the point I was making.

Even so if you say youre not racist but all your friends and family are, I have a hard time believing your not racist.

wackyteen posted...

I'm trying to get you to understand that you can help change their status quo if you don't go attacking them. If you can peacefully change their status quo you'll win them over.

You won't win them over by demanding they stand up and donate or protest or whatever. Or treat them as "not allies" at best and enemies at worst because they won't.

You're creating so much more work for yourself by taking these hard line stances of "if you're not with me then you're my enemy/not my ally".

and I keep letting you know, these peoples opinions never change, theyll consistently choose the path with the least conflict over what they might feel is morally right.

its no reason to conform to mediocrity or a moderate belief here.

MLK was talking about these exact people 60 years ago and were still supposed to accommodate them in our struggles in hope that the peace stress free allyship we give them will one day spurn them into action ?

fuck that youre better off waiting for them to die.


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BeantownHero posted...

Where did I say that?

You didnt.

everyone in the topics just is being like Black People asked me to help them in some tangible fashion !?!?!? How dare they I guess Ill go be racist now

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wackyteen posted...

I agree, but you have to remember many people only seek to keep the peace. They might go to the other side to keep peace with people they already trust, know and love (or at least get love from). If you go at them with fire and brimstone all they're seeing coming from you is hate and ill will, and it shouldn't come as a surprise when they're not overly receptive of your message.

If you approach them reasonably and with a non-accusatory tone, you're likely to recruit far many more allies than if you go at them accusing them of being racist because they won't outwardly support BLM.

people who only seek to keep the peace arent allies, they arent even neutral in this they prefer the status quo.

You keep proving our point but you dont want to agree because it applies to you.

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wackyteen posted...

I do expect more from them but I know that attacking them isn't going to get them to change their beliefs. And some never will, and they're free to do so and suffer the consequences of that belief.

So you want them all to come out and be outwardly racist? for what? so you can cancel them on Twitter?

I don't expect you to consider me an ally. I just don't want you to count me among your enemies.

its easier to handle someone who shows themselves as youre enemy than it is to handle someone who mask themselves as your ally.

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Im not even gonna acknowledge the you want racism fixed instantly comment because you know that sounds ridiculous.

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wackyteen posted...

YOU SHOULD BECAUSE THEY'RE FUCKING AMERICANS. YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH THEM AT THE END OF THE FUCKING DAY.

By that same logic shouldnt you expect more from them ? If were all Americans how can you feel comfortable just watching racism happen ?

You attack these people and expect them to join your side. You say you don't care about them. Then why the fuck should those people ever care about you or your plight?

They dont, we already know they dont were not gonna pretend that they do, so they should stop pretending as well.

Again you feel so passionate about this because it applies to you rather let people in your life be outwardly racist than actively challenge them and their beliefs, but at the same time feel like you should be considered an ally for a blind eye to racist thats literally right in your face.


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wackyteen posted...

His edit is what you run the risk of doing though. Even if he's just being facetious or playing it up for the topic, its what you run the risk of doing to real people. And he's someone who was (actively) on your side or would have spoken out in support. But your over zealousness has turned him against your cause.

Now imagine what your over zealousness will do to those who have never had a meaningful interaction with a PoC? Who has only seen them on the TV or online? Your over zealousness will quickly spurn them away. They may have never had racist intentions in their life but you demanding "BE MY ALLY OR ELSE YOU ARE MY ENEMY" will quickly turn them into your enemy because their first meaningful interaction was negative.

You have a hard fought, LONG battle ahead of you. This shit isn't going to change over night. It isn't going to change in November. It won't have fully changed til the both us are so long dead that we're both forgotten about, but you can make it a shorter battle by not turning potential allies into enemies. By acknowledging that you have to take a slow and metered approach to win over the maximum amount of support.

WHO CARES ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE the idea black people should accommodate the people who are only kinda against racism when it inconveniences them is ridiculous, these people arent really allies, they do nothing, support nothing and only look for excuses not to support. If these people where people of value Martin Luther King would of ended racism.

why should black people water down their own message to appease who are only in it for the ego check or photo op.


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Artemis86 posted...

Your eagerness to automatically put my loyalty in doubt tells me you'd gladly stand by the switchblade-wielding crackhead above simply because he's on your side. Sounds like you're creating your own problem by shitting on anyone not zealous enough. What a joke. And let me guess, you sit on your ass and shitpost on gfaqs and do fuck all else while being judgmental and therefore you're "doing your part"?

ive donated and will continue to donate to multiple causes I will also be voting this November. So Ive also not been to protest, but Im not the one saying the scary (and wrong) stuff at protest is keeping me from offering my support in any other fashion.

edit: Again this all sounds like a cop out to me

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VVALLBOUNCE posted...

So, you two are going to tell me that despite me treating everyone equal, Im perpetuating racism? Lmao. Everyone is responsible for one and only one persons actions: his/her own. If I treat everyone equally and hold no prejudice, theres no more I need do. I maintain precisely zero responsibility for the actions or words of any other human being. This is thoroughly undebatable, but go ahead.

I mean if youre not racist but Knowingly Benefit from racism and knowingly allow racism to spread in your community without at least challenging it.

youre not really against racism, youre against racism when it inconveniences you.


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QueenCarly posted...

Yeah, kind of obvious.

If you're not actively against racism you are perpetuating it.

This.

but some on CE feels you can say BLM in your head and no where else and consider yourself anti racism

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Artemis86 posted...

Ah, yes, the George W. Bush mentality. Always good for creating division and hatred in a group.

Some BLM "ally" almost committed attempted murder at the rally in my town this weekend. Being on camera is all that got them to put the knife away. So no, I dont think I'll be going anywhere near any rallies.

and its still multiples ways to support without going to an rally, so your hesitation to support is questionable

wackyteen posted...

Also be careful how you throw the racist label around because people who may not consider themselves racist may be "Well if refusal to support is racist then guess I'm a racist"

Doesn't mean they'll go join the KKK but you've successfully created more work for yourself to do.

When people like that Karen in Central Park expose themselves then yes, call them out for acting racist or being a racist. However when you don't have any demonstrable proof of someone being racist and your entire reasoning for them being racist is "You won't openly protest for and support the BLM movement" then you shouldn't be throwing the label around when real dangerous racists exist and will go and happily recruit your newly created "racists".

Also, you're always going to have silent supporters if you don't spurn them away. They may not be worth much but they're better as silent supporters than silent or vocal enemies.

Because if something tragic were to happen to the BLM movement, you want them to think "that's fucked up" and it motivate them into more vocal support than having them be silent enemies who think "I don't care/well maybe they deserved it"

anyone who would go from being against racism to for racism, was Probably never really against racism in The first place.

Expecting people to cater their message to a crowd that has no intentions of being ANY actual help is ridiculous and you only feel that way because YOURE part of that group.

these people are part of the problem just as much so the actual racist, an extremely weak ally isnt better than no allied at all.

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Endeavor

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wackyteen posted...

Yes. You can be united silently by a commonly held belief.

For some its a matter of they can't be openly outspoken about it because of their current situation in life.

I come from a place where just 10 minutes up the road, just a mere 50-60 years ago, they had signs warning non-whites to not be out after dark because there would be literal lynch mobs that would roam around.

That racism is still ingrained at a surface level into the people who have lived there their entire lives. I can't personally speak to knowing someone who would join a lynch mob but the point still stands. My own grandparents are racist, more inwardly than outwardly but still. and that is true for nearly everybody I knew growing up because I come from a place where every third person I come across is like a 3rd or 4th cousin.

Also, family is of utmost importance. For my entire childhood and until recently we would hold yearly family reunions. Not quite so much anymore due to my grandparents advancing age and family moving further and further away and the advent of things like Facebook making it easier to keep in contact.

So imagine you're in that scenario. You agree that Black Lives Matter. You can get on board with the base sentiment but can't outwardly say it due to social pressure. You're demanding people give up the things that are most important to them for a cause they can agree with but may not necessarily want to openly support due to social pressure or they're just not at that point in accepting what is, in contrast to their upbringing or the surroundings they grew up in, a radical idea. They may have one non-white friend and they send them a "i sympathize with your plight even though I didn't go through the hardships you have"

Now imagine their only non-white friend is like "man fuck you that ain't enough, either get out there and protest and donate or never contact me again"

A reasonable person will rightfully be pissed at that message. So at best that friend has spurned them away from the BLM movement and at worse their spurning them away drives them into the arms of actual racists. And if they posted about their exchange on Facebook I can almost promise you they'll find sympathy from the wrong kinds of people.

You must be careful about how you approach inviting people into what can be considered a radical idea.

I'm not saying I think the BLM is a radical idea, but if you go parading in the downtown of the place i mentioned with the message of BLM, you might get attacked.

Thats a really long post for you to split hairs to feel better about yourself.

you would rather coddle racist, than stand up for your own beliefs, so no I dont consider you an ally, youre more like the white moderate Martin Luther King spoke about.

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wackyteen posted...

The idea is that they might be on the fence or not have enough information to have an opinion. If you go into the conversation basically strong arming them, then you run the risk of them just agreeing to get you to shut up or giving a token donation then swearing off the organization because "i already donated".

You think that only those who donate to white supremacist groups and actively support racist candidates are the only true racists? You have millions of casual racists that don't openly support or condone the racist politicians but they'll vote for them.

If BLM wants to succeed they need people who may not ever donate a dollar but are willing to vote for politicians put forth by BLM. Otherwise whats the point? we live in a democratic society where you change the system via voting.

BLM can't eviscerate itself eternally by falling into the trap of No True Scotsman.

I don't expect and demand every American to vote in order to prove they're an American. Same as you shouldn't expect every person who says BLM to donate and protest for the cause.

if theyre voting theyre using their voice.

so again I ask you can you really considers someone who refuses to use their voice, time or money an ally.

Cause I dont know how you can be on the fence with something like racism dude

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wackyteen posted...

It isn't refusing to be friends with people who are anti-BLM, its if they're not pro-BLM to the point of donating time and/or money and going out there and actively protesting.

Its a toxic attitude and is bound to drive many would be supporters, at least in name only, away from the cause and might even serve to drive some to the other side.

if youre unwilling to use your time or money to support are you really pro BLM ?

legit question ?

Like someone who refuses to donate any money, refuses to invest anytime and refuses to use there voice in any fashion can they do that and truely be Pro BLM ?

and anyone who can be turned against BLM (as an idea not an Organization) was never actually for BLM

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im sure ce is being ce in this topic.

i didnt think refusing to be friends with people who are anti BLM was an unreasonable take.

if youre against racism and continue to have friends/family that arent against racism, are you really against racism

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Wii_Shaker posted...

This.

It's obvious that police reform is needed. Even defunding alone will cause more problems than it will solve.

i dont think defunding would cause a lot of problems

Im sure cutting 10-20% of most police departments budget would just be the hyper military stuff


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depends on what you mean as the concept

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lilJoe457 posted...

Idk. He seems genuine about certain things. Let's not get it twisted. Before the trump stuff. Kanye was crazy. He's always been out of his mind.

I mean when was the last time he was seen in the maga hat, around the time Kim got that woman outta jail iirc and apparently hes been donating to liberal candidates for a few Years now , plus all his close friends are saying this.

kanyes actions this last 6 months dont really match his actions years when Kim was freeing all those women.?

dont know if its true, but its interesting

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Yall do realize shes a notorious twitter troll right ?

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