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Topic2 Atlanta officers fired after video shows them tasing man and using 'excessive
legendary_zell
06/01/20 1:00:46 PM
#27
When a police officer uses excessive force, that means its outside of the scope of their job. When someone uses excessive force with no justification, they usually are charged with assault and battery. That's exactly what should happen here, and each and every time an officer uses excessive force. It should happen as standard procedure. The fact that its not is exactly why cities across the country are in upheaval.

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TopicRioters burn homeless man's belongings
legendary_zell
06/01/20 12:43:14 PM
#51
@darkprince45 No trolling here, just one human being to another. The attitude of reflexive defensiveness and constant deflection, plus a total lack of sel-reflection is the problem. We, the people you allegedly serve are telling you "we don't feel protected, we feel attacked, we want to see a real awareness and acknowledgment of responsibility from you" and you respond by saying "fuck you, we're doing a great job, here's some videos of rioters."

Because of that, we'll be having this exact same conversation in a few years when Darius Smith gets killed on camera and there's riots because the police aren't arrested and charged and you didn't do anything to change your practices and demeanor since last time.


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TopicI'm fucking sick of the romanticization of Small Businesses
legendary_zell
06/01/20 11:46:08 AM
#138
CruelBuffalo posted...
Ill let the immigrant aunties that run pho shops that they are capitalist scum that need to be eaten

Why even waste the calories to post such strawmen? Running a business doesn't automatically make you a bad person, but definitionally, you are not a worker when you do so. Therefore, critizing their practices as a business owner is not attacking workers somehow.

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TopicRioters burn homeless man's belongings
legendary_zell
06/01/20 11:41:41 AM
#24
s0nicfan posted...
There is no line you can draw to connect anger over police brutality and burning a homeless man's belongings. This video isn't any form of protest, it's cruelty performed under the cover of riots done by people with the knowledge that they can probably get away with it. Don't drag down a legitimate social movement by associating it with these psychopaths.

I don't associate them. If this is exactly as presented, the people who did this are scum. TC is the one associating them on purpose so that he doesn't have to talk about what the institution he joined needs to do. This is one incident in a wider explosion caused by a system that's been broken for decades.

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TopicI'm fucking sick of the romanticization of Small Businesses
legendary_zell
06/01/20 11:33:57 AM
#136
A business owner is not a worker.

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TopicRioters burn homeless man's belongings
legendary_zell
06/01/20 11:27:24 AM
#3
Are you ever going to acknowledge how the police caused this anger? What they need to do to change? You are one, shouldn't you be wondering why people hate you so much and what you can do it improve your relationship with the people?

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TopicI'm fucking sick of the romanticization of Small Businesses
legendary_zell
06/01/20 10:55:19 AM
#123
pinky0926 posted...
I promise you I didn't bring it up to mock his lifestyle or career choices or whatever. I'm just curious what kind of person he is. How you discuss employment practises with an anarchist versus someone who just wants to reform employment law in a democratic socialist way is obviously going to be different.

You seem to be bringing it up in good faith. Basically everyone else isn't though. And most people aren't when they argue with anyone left of center. Maybe I've been on the internet too long?

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TopicI'm fucking sick of the romanticization of Small Businesses
legendary_zell
06/01/20 10:34:00 AM
#90
Balrog0 posted...
I mean, idk, I don't see why it would be off the table to talk about. You brought your work up unprompted

It's not off the table, it's just not being brought up in good faith. My work isn't off the table either, I don't have an issue saying what I do and how it informs my worldview. But then again, people don't hate me as much.

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TopicI'm fucking sick of the romanticization of Small Businesses
legendary_zell
06/01/20 10:28:13 AM
#77
Crash posted...
Like all basement-dwelling commies, he's probably unemployed. He'll never admit it either way, though. It's always hilarious to me when they begrudgingly do actually have a job. How do you like contributing to capitalism, commies?

"Yet you participate in society, how interesting"

This is not the clever gotcha people seem to think it is. If he didn't work, that would discredit him, but working also discredits him. It sounds like the point is discrediting him, not what he does.

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TopicI'm fucking sick of the romanticization of Small Businesses
legendary_zell
06/01/20 10:21:16 AM
#68
Being small or controlled by family doesn't mean a business isn't exploitative. I would know, I've investigated and sued a lot of "small mom and pops" who exploited their workers, their customers, and the public. There is nothing about a small business that is automatically better than a mega-corp. They're often little unaccountable fiefdoms where worker protections don't apply, specifically because of their small size or revenues.

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TopicDo most of you think the good cops don't do enough to rein in the bad cops?
legendary_zell
05/31/20 7:43:58 PM
#32
AssultTank posted...
And this all comes from the policies and laws set by elected officials.

I keep saying that if you want better cops, elect better politicians. My hometown has a great police force, but our government actually cares about the people and set policies in place to ensure that the police are held to a very high standard when it comes to citizen interaction.

Local elections matter immensely when it comes to things like this. Your mayor, city council, judges, and DA are all elected officials and have a HUGE impact on the police force and how they perform their jobs.

It's an important factor, but I think it also comes down to the core history and function of the police in the US. That's why there is a common negative culture and set of practices that is nationwide and goes beyond specific areas. That's why police here act a certain way in the absence of strong local leadership. That also needs to be addressed, it can't just be expected that electoral politics will fix things like that, especially on the local level.

Just one issue with that is that minorities and the marginalized are just that. Their political importance is diminished and their the numbers often can't match up with the majority that just wants them controlled. In areas where there is interplay between a majority with more social capital and a minority without it, the minority is not going to be able to take control of the political system and reform it when it's working just fine in the view of the majority and the majority believes any abuse experienced by the minority is deserved or exaggerated.

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TopicDo most of you think the good cops don't do enough to rein in the bad cops?
legendary_zell
05/31/20 7:13:00 PM
#28
The job itself is often brutal. It needs to be reformed at that level. Corruption is one thing, but they're often following the law and their training. The problem is, both are telling them to do unjust things. And they do them. And they don't say anything when others do them. That makes you bad.

I have not met with or seen any cops that don't reflexively defend the entire profession from even the most clearly justified complaint. I haven't seen any truly accept the need for instituonal change or accept responsibilty for being the direct cause of their own bad PR. Darkprince45 on this very board is a great example of that.

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TopicWhy are there still protests going on?
legendary_zell
05/31/20 4:30:03 PM
#34
AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Remember all those threats from mayors about jail time and fines for violating social distancing when protesting? Guess they were full of shit

A protest about the right put others in danger during the height of coronovirus by showing up with guns and without masks in large crowds, with the sole purpose of ending a fully necessary quarantine. Compare that with a spontaneous protest with people largely wearing masks, done in response to the decades long problem of police brutality and a murder committed on camera, started after many states have already started opening. They are not the same.

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TopicAmericans: how widespread are the riots?
legendary_zell
05/31/20 3:26:00 PM
#25
Add Austin, Texas to the list.

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TopicMartin Luther King Jr: "A riot is the language of the unheard"
legendary_zell
05/30/20 4:16:45 PM
#43
Annihilated posted...
I already provided another example of why this doesn't just apply to cops and/or racism, but if you want to explain then go ahead.
Sure. Since at least the 1920s, there's been a documented pattern of police harassment towards the poor and minorities. This happens in cities all across America and predates the modern media by decades. Before CNN, Buzzfeed, Kotaku, before any of that, MLK specifically listed an end to police brutality and harassment as a requirment for true peace and equality within our society. It was already a well established phenomenon at that time, he'd already marched about it, and police-community relations were already shattered at that point without the influence of the media. There were numerous riots caused by breakdowns of police-community relations before and shortly after MLK's time. The perception that police are agents of oppression has been a fact of life longer than anyone here has been alive and the media has little to do with it.

It stems from the tactics, attitudes, and practices of the police. The ganglike closing of ranks when an officer abuses someone or does something illegal, the mismatch of races between the police and the policed, the fact of police policing neighborhoods they have no stake in, the infiltration of many police forces by white supremacists, apparent imputinity by police even when they do get caught, practices like stop and frisk, daily harassment, militarization of the police over the years, and countless other factors not related to the media all contribute to the fundamental lack of trust in the police as an institution. To say that a phenomenon that's deep and central to the experience of poor and brown people in this country is actually a false perception imposed on them by the media is straight up false. Others are just being exposed to the ideas and realities that black people in this country have always had.


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TopicMartin Luther King Jr: "A riot is the language of the unheard"
legendary_zell
05/30/20 3:53:48 PM
#39
Annihilated posted...
That basically is what I'm suggesting, but it's not just one instance, it's hundreds. The media tells you that cops are massacring people left and right, yet the statistics tell a different story.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

It's usually only about 1,000 people a year who are killed by police. And given the number of crimes, the number of cops, and the number of perps in the country, this is a very low number.

And the reason this overexposure is bad is because all these instances are completely isolated from one another. They occur in different cities in different states, managed by different governments, and most of the time it's either a dumb cop making a dumb decision or a justified cop being basically framed by unethical journalists. All of these incidents are being linked together trying to find a pattern or a conspiracy where it doesn't exist. They're a few people who make mistakes or a few bad apples that spoil the bunch.

I'll be honest, I don't even know who that is. I don't often pay attention to a lot of news stories, partly due to lack of time and due to the reasons I mentioned earlier. If you want another example of how media glamor causes harm, look at all the mass shootings that have happened since Little Rock, CO in 1999. It happened in only one town, but everyone in the country was watching it for weeks, and future psychopaths with narcissistic tendencies took that as a challenge to beat and as a sick legacy to leave for themselves.

Death is not the only outcome people are worried about and unjustified killings are not the way police have set their relationship with the communities they police on fire.

Maybe you shouldn't be talking about what causes dissatisfaction with the police as an institution or the legacy of racism in this country if you don't know who Emmitt Till is? Maybe, you aren't qualified to lay all these problems at the doorstep of the media?

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TopicMartin Luther King Jr: "A riot is the language of the unheard"
legendary_zell
05/30/20 12:50:19 PM
#13
ohiostate124 posted...
Both sides trying to use MLKs words to their benefit.

Only one side is accurate however because MLK was not a modern right winger. He was a left wing radical arguing for racial and economic emancipation. The exact things that made him hated them and would make him hated now, because the people who argue for it now are hated.

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TopicRiots are to be expected when even MLK can't fix police brutality
legendary_zell
05/30/20 12:47:41 PM
#1
People say that only peaceful protests work and should be used. But we already literally had MLK marching to address the same issues. We've had constant peaceful protests since he died. We've had Kaepernick, we've had police summits, review boards, you name it, all across the country. We've had protests led by paragons like MLK, we've had decentralized protests, and everything inbetween. There's been op eds, documentaries, speeches, initiatives, studies, commissionsions. People have tried making personal connections with the police and joining the police force to fix it from the inside.. And yet, the same antagonistic relationship remains.

I'm a peaceful person, I don't like senseless violence, I don't like rioting. I wish the political actions taken could be more rational and directed. I believe that peaceful, non-violent, directed protest should be the first, second, and third option. But we've had police brutality riots in MLKs time, up until the present because little has changed. When people feel nothing changes, no matter what they do, when they feel fundamentally insecure, unrepresented, and dehumanized, when they feel hopeless, they snap. And that snapping isn't good for anyone. What else could possibly happen? Are people really expected to just take a police for abusing them with impunity for generations? And just keep their heads down and repeat unobtrusive forms of protest when they fundamentally don't believe that it works and haven't seen evidence that it does? Human beings don't work like that.

The key to prevent this from happening is to make sure that peaceful protest actually works and that is seems like a rational option, rather than screaming into the void. Everyone condemning the riots should be making a personal committment to fight for police reform and for the immediate radical overhaul of our criminal justice system. Otherwise, you are contributing directly to the frustration and lack of efficacy that inevitably results in riots, over and over. You can't say it isn't predicabtle at this point. If you don't let people react rationally and achieve a just result, they WILL react irrationally.

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TopicThey're protesting in my city tonight
legendary_zell
05/29/20 7:30:39 PM
#11
SH_expert44 posted...
Ohh its in favor of the cop. So it will probably be a peaceful protest with a bunch of armed protesters.

It will more than likely face super heavy criticism and they will be called dangerous thugs despite not destroying anything or causing any trouble.

Why would they when the system works in their favor and they are marching with weapons to keep it the same?

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Topicwhat happened to this country
legendary_zell
05/29/20 4:12:07 PM
#58
P4wn4g3 posted...
Yes, my bad

Okay, I can see how it happens. They're both trash.

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Topicwhat happened to this country
legendary_zell
05/29/20 3:39:35 PM
#55
P4wn4g3 posted...
This is why I find it laughable that the likes of Biden will improve things.

Biden is a modern Andrew Jackson, a dipshit who wants to please both sides to win political favor and will fuck us all in the process.

Do you mean Johnson? I definitely don't think Jackson was known for trying to please both sides.

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Topicwhat happened to this country
legendary_zell
05/29/20 3:38:46 PM
#54
threetimes posted...
Someone wrote that racism is America's original sin. The country was founded on slavery and genocide of the indigenous population. So yeah, it's not just Trump, but he is a very public expression of what is wrong, and he not only condones the racism, he actively promotes it.


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TopicMinneapolis bus drivers refuse to transport protesters to jail
legendary_zell
05/29/20 3:10:27 PM
#11
You love to see it.

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TopicDerek Chauvin, George Floyd murderer, has been taken into custody.
legendary_zell
05/29/20 2:15:30 PM
#62
I think he should also be charged with second degree murder. I think it's pretty easy to infer the intent to cause bodily harm when the victim and multiple bystanders are screaming, begging, pleading for you to get off the victim's neck, check on him, anything. All while the victim cries and then goes completely limp for minutes. That's beyond reckless, that's intent, even if there was no specific intent to kill him.

They probably went with 3rd degree to be completely sure he got convicted of murder and so they could say they charged him with murder. Because if he somehow walks after the trial, multiple cities will burn.

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TopicIs defending one shitty cop really worth this?
legendary_zell
05/29/20 12:55:47 PM
#16
looked posted...
The cop has a right to trial. If you support the mob lynching him, than you are no better than the people you claim to be against.

No one is saying he shouldn't get a trial. But the process to eventually get to a trial hasn't even been started, despite video evidence of the crime. People have gotten tired of seeing prosecutors who can indict a ham sandwich hemming and hawing and making excuses for not bring charges against police officers who betray the public trust. If you or I committed a murder like that on camera, with people begging us to stop, we'd already be in jail, handcuffed, charged, and indicted by now.

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TopicWhat is your personal take on the MN situation? (Cop, riots)
legendary_zell
05/29/20 12:51:46 PM
#150
PokemonYoutube posted...
Then they should go besiege the police station.

But since they ain't got the balls for that (because the police will gun them the fuck down if they pull that shit), they'll just stick to smashing up some defenseless stores and steal everything they can get their hands on.

Real admirable people, that.

@PokemonYoutube They DID beseige the police station. The police were sent running for their lives. It's all on video. So I guess they are admirable people who directed their anger at the right target now, right?

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TopicI never really liked mainstream media, but I am starting to feel bad about CNN
legendary_zell
05/29/20 8:21:28 AM
#21
What the actual fuck.....this is gonna explode when everyone wakes up. Way to prove the protesters' point for the trillionth time. Straight up illegally power tripping on camera.

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TopicHolyshit George Lloyd and the officer who killed him worked at the same nightclu
legendary_zell
05/28/20 10:33:00 PM
#11
I need a lot more confirmation on this. We need ironclad confirmation that they knew each other. If it's true......hoooleeeshitttt. We really will have LA Riots Two: Electric Booglaoo if he's not charged with 1st degree murder and convicted.

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TopicWhy do people destroy their own city when they protest? >_>
legendary_zell
05/28/20 9:48:19 AM
#91
DifferentialEquation posted...
Torching the business of a private citizen who had nothing to do with the situation and is innocent is also a blatant injustice.
Sure, but why would that make you ignore a murder or a series of murder or an unaccountable police institution? That's the path people take and it doesn't make sense. They seem to care much more about property than people's lives.

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TopicWhy do people destroy their own city when they protest? >_>
legendary_zell
05/28/20 9:32:17 AM
#85
All throughout history, people have rioted when they feel unheard and unprotected or like the rules fundamentally don't apply in their favor. That doesn't affect the truth of their message at all or

If you are focusing on the spillover of passion cause by a blatant injustice rather than the injustice itself, you are acting like those white moderates that MLK had some thoughts on. If you feel there's injustice, focus on injustice.

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TopicVideos show large crowds ignoring social distancing at Lake of the Ozarks party
legendary_zell
05/25/20 3:07:54 PM
#100
@dark
Dark Symphony posted...
Do you know why that's just vapid, irresponsible hyperbole? Because you aren't doing the legwork that someone who really believes this should be doing. Agitating people, insulting them and holier-than-thouing isn't something you do in the face of an armed robber holding up you and your family because you are concerned people will be injured and die. Why the heck is it appropriate here?

There is a really bad situation on our hands: Something is out there that may be very dangerous and we don't know a lot about it and a lot of things are hard to prove. That means disparate groups of people are going to draw different conclusions. We can't even agree on whether or not eggs or healthy or whether organic food actually makes a difference and we've had decades of empirical experience with those things.

You're making the grave and woefully naive mistake of expecting the severity of the charge to carry the argument for you. That's not how it works. You still have to make a believable case.

Mincing words. Saying someone is callously, knowingly acting in a way that will kill others is calling them evil. You have to roll with what you say. Can't have it both ways.

Dude, that's exactly what your charge is. Saying people are consciously ignoring that they are going to get others killed (which is super silly nebulous talk: people have been risking contracting potentially fatal viruses through social interaction for centuries. Elderly people have been dying from contagious diseases as far back as humans know. The argument has to get better than that) is a pretty serious charge of evil. It sounds like you don't want the responsibility that comes with that which is what I'm talking about when I say you add to the problem, not help it.

I have no fear of missing the mark. Our interaction has been very limited and I can always adjust my thinking based on additional things you say or clarifications you make. I think the major mark you and others miss is how much of a responsibility it is to try to get people to come together to protect each other. Not all of these people are as thoughtless as you think. Think of all the times terrible evils have happened for the sake of the alleged safety of humanity. And many people were sure in those cases that those things were totally what was needed. Those vulnerabilities need to be felt when people are approached about this pandemic otherwise it starts to sound like vapid finger-wagging and power-grabbing.

If you think I'm misunderstanding you due to the limited nature of the forum I'm more than happy to open up a discord chat.

I don't think we're going to come to an agreement on this. You seem to think that it's rational or justified for people to disregard the evidence that has been presented and that the scientific community and individuals like me should have to reinvent the wheel to prove why people shouldn't go to a pool party. I think the people there are not relying on reason to make their decisions and have been prevented with the best evidence available and have decided not to act in accordance with it. It's as simple as that.

I don't believe anything can be done to convince them, it'll have to be reality itself that does it, if at all.


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TopicWhy does God make deformed babies?
legendary_zell
05/25/20 2:43:17 PM
#24
Tyranthraxus posted...
It wasn't a debate for thousands of years. It does predate "angstheism" or the internet though.

And the reason is qualities have been attributed to God that didn't originally exist post hoc mostly by various popes

God does not know everything, ever, millions of years before it ever happened.

God does not have unlimited power to do literally anything he wants as effectively as he wants.

Everything makes a lot more sense when you understand God doesn't control everything.

It's called the problem of evil and the responses to it are called theodices. They've certainly been going on for thousands of years in both Abrahamic an non Abrahamic religions.

And in Abrahamic religions, God's omnipotence, omniscience, and omnibenevolence are generally core beliefs, except for people who change their beliefs to account for the problem of evil. Your take on it is most definitely a minority view.

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TopicWhy does God make deformed babies?
legendary_zell
05/25/20 2:25:55 PM
#14
coh posted...
it's just a meme making fun of a tired angstheist argument

It not a dumb question or a meme, it's been debated for thousands of years, before angtheism was ever even dreamed of. It a central issue with any religion that says God or the gods are a combination of all knowing, all loving, and all powerful. More ink has been spilled on this question than almost any other and it will continue to be spilled.

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Topicman kills sex offender to keep the neighborhood safe
legendary_zell
05/25/20 2:13:33 PM
#13
That's premeditated murder. Campaign to change the justice system, don't murder someone. Make sure the guy isn't alone with any kids, don't murder someone. Publicize his crimes so people can protect themselves and their kids, don't murder someone.

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TopicVideos show large crowds ignoring social distancing at Lake of the Ozarks party
legendary_zell
05/25/20 2:04:41 PM
#96
Dark Symphony posted...
You have to learn (you won't) to actually make a case to those people instead of vapidly finger-wagging based on what amounts to innuendo. It's not enough to be right, you have to be convincing which most people like you aren't. Look at your post. You're talking about all the risks. They OBVIOUSLY DON'T THINK THOSE ARE THE RISKS. You have to be good and smart enough to dictate otherwise but you're not, nor do you care to be. This exposes you as a person who just gets off on chastising others and this pandemic is a gold mine for you.

Can you articulate to this group why what you say is a big deal now when elderly people at risk from catching infectious diseases that their bodies can't handle IS NOT A NEW THING UNIQUE TO 2020!

Lazy people like you are the worst in situations like this. You love to accuse people of being evil strictly for the sake of making yourself feel better, not to actually right any wrongs. Superman has to actually stop the building from falling using effort, even if people believe he can't. That's part of being good - remaining so in the face of people who don't agree with you.

Some of the vindictive comments in this topic are really telling.

This situation isn't new. They have had ample opportunity to find out the relevant information. It's been screamed at them from the rooftops by the CDC, the WHO, every legitimate news organization. It's been explained more than anything else in my entire life. A failure to understand that you should stay six feet away from others and not have huge gatherings and wear a mask is not the responsibility of moral scolds. No message could have possibly been spread more widely or better argued over the last few months.

There's no innuendo involved, these people have been told about bending the curve, about asymptomatic transmission, about the necessity of social distancing, about masks reducing transmission and a million other things that each alone should have prevented them from doing something like this.

Again, they are simply profoundly ignorant and have missed the biggest information sharing campaign of my entire life or they have simply decided that it's over and they're invincible.

You can try to make me the bad guy for calling bad and destructive behavior destructive but it's not going to work. You should save that energy for the people who are going to get others killed. I don't think any of them are evil, like I said, they are either ignorant or callous. That doesn't mean evil and thinking someone is doing a bad thing doesn't mean you think they're some type of malevolent force.

I'd much prefer they followed the same directions we all had access to. It doesn't feel good to see other people acting this way or to think about them negatively. I'd much much prefer to see humanity come together to protect each other. You're attempting to psychoanalyze me based on one post on Gamefaqs and you're missing the mark.

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TopicVideos show large crowds ignoring social distancing at Lake of the Ozarks party
legendary_zell
05/24/20 3:08:30 PM
#68
So many people are just fundamentally incapable of thinking of others or acting for others. That's what this is teachings me. People are weighing the possibility that their pool trip will lead to some grandpa or mother of 4 choking to death on their own lung fluid and deciding that's a risk worth taking. Either that or they're simply not thinking about it and only thinking of their own health after months of constant begging to expand their thinking.

How am I not supposed to think negatively of these people? They're displaying considerable callousness or ignorance just by being present.

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TopicRome is falling
legendary_zell
05/24/20 2:50:05 PM
#6
We're not Rome. Rome was on top for centuries and survived shocks that we couldn't even fathom. America has only been on top since the aftermath the Cold War.

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TopicDemocrat conspiracy: This rich dude is greedy and probably doesnt care about you
legendary_zell
05/21/20 8:11:17 AM
#21
The pedophile obsession is justified because in our current culture, a pedophile is considered the worst and most morally bankrupt thing you can be and the term is also synonymous with child rapist. Since conservatives who have fully drunk the Kool-aid end up seeing anyone left of center as alien elites and don't understand their motivations, they've naturally assigned the worst motivations an character possible.

They're advocating more government because they're pedophiles or to hide the fact that they're pedophiles and your reactionary uncle on Facebook is a clear eyed truth seeker for seeing through liberal lies and finding this out.

It's really that simple. I think it's a result of the times and cultural polarization that leads to political polarization. Basically, these peoples brains are fried by fundamental distrust.

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Topici'm really enjoying watching michael jordan's the last dance documentary
legendary_zell
05/12/20 12:58:19 PM
#23
You can lead by example without setting fear in the hearts of your friends and berating them. Lots of people have done that, including within the NBA. I don't think Larry Bird, Magic, Kareem, Duncan etc were as pathological and toxic to their teammates and they certainly reached a high level of success.

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TopicTop Ukrainian police officer requests for a list of all Jews in the city.
legendary_zell
05/11/20 11:43:05 PM
#5
Could we just...not? Let's not do this yet again.

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TopicRIP Little Richard
legendary_zell
05/09/20 11:37:31 AM
#22
He gave you Rock and Roll and he gave you performance with personality. Thank him for your favorite rockers and for Prince, Michael Jackson, James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, and on and on. Hopefully now he'll get the credit he deserves and won't just be the Tutti Frutti guy to people.

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TopicI mean mock obnoxious masculinity all you want but as long as they shower
legendary_zell
05/08/20 12:05:58 PM
#20
Literally Naval Supremacy.....lmao. We're past Old Spice levels of ironic hyper masculinity now. We're at Powerthirst levels. It's only a matter of time until we get gunpowder scented bodywash.

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TopicTaking a neutral stance in American politics is not enlightened, nor commendable
legendary_zell
05/01/20 11:20:22 AM
#31
That's the important distinction. There's a difference between "not sufficiently pro worker or civil liberties" and "actively anti-human, anti-planet, anti-worker, anti-democratic participation, anti-science, avatar of wealthy conspiratorial white interests" parties. Not seeing that difference isn't being work, it's being schleep.

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TopicThe worst part about losing half your bodyweight.
legendary_zell
05/01/20 10:57:38 AM
#25
Damn, good job everyone in this topic. That's an immense amount of progress.

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TopicIn Persona 5/Royal, what was your reaction...*major spoilers*
legendary_zell
05/01/20 9:57:29 AM
#3
Definitely thought I would need to reload my save file.

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