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School. Retail is hell. Plus you can teach kids about subjects that interest you... Like history! And if they get mouthy you can punish them with stuff like extra homework and detention instead of having to smile and take it when someone insists that their coupon for salmon is valid for tuna as well.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Hard to say. In general I'd like them to update it without losing the spirit of the original. Like Firered/Leafgreen which added in a bunch of changes to Red/Blue but, at the same time, kept things faithful to the original. Some games have some serious shortcomings that need addressing but changing too much can be just as bad. So it's really sort of a balance.

Like, imagine if they remade FFI and updated it to be a full-on 3-D release with modern graphics, gameplay, and everything. At that point why not just make it a whole new title? At the same time, releasing it as a 2-D title and making sure everything is cleaned up, functioning well, and generally improved... well..
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darkknight109 posted...

What's your definition of "best"? The one the orks stack up best against? The one that best counters the orks? Or just the one that makes for the most entertaining game?

Latter.
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Which of the three Starcraft races would make for the best Death Battle opponents for the Warhammer 40k Orks?
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Yea. Shouldn't be too hard to do. Just focus on writing a good story and not obsessively marketing to a fanbase or doing stupid changes to appeal to non-fans.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Thursday; because that's when my work schedule says it starts.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

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How else am I going to work enough to pay off my bills and debts?
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NightMareBunny posted...

the thing is Ana's not the kind of person who'd be good in the leader role

As... sexist... as it may sound; how capable Ana is as a leader won't really matter once she marries since, even in a matrilineal marriage, her husband would hold a lot of sway. Plus with some solid advisers to handle affairs her charisma would probably matter more than any actual leadership abilities. Pretty much the only way it would be an issue would be if she both never married and refused to listen to her advisers. Not saying it wouldn't be better if she was a capable leader, because it certainly would be, but all she *really* has to do is be a figurehead. She doesn't have to be the level of Theodora or Catherine by a longshot.
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NightMareBunny posted...

Elsa returns to isolation as a spirit of nature while Ana is crowned queen of Arendale

If true that makes at least some sense. I don't think people really... grasp... how bad of a situation Arendale is in thanks to Elsa.

See, here's the thing, politics exist. As much as we like the whole 'marry for love not politics' message a lot of people in the modern era don't grasp that marrying for politics was important for a VERY long time! In this case Elsa's powers made her the fantasy equiv to a nuclear weapon and whoever married her would effectively ensure that their own kingdom would be a dominate military power and whoever didn't would want to see her dead, disgraced, discredited, and whatever else. As much as people like to hate on her parents for trying to make her fear her powers Elsa keeping them hidden was basically her only chance at a 'normal' life even for a princess and putting them on full display is going to get her wrapped up in a massive amount of political turmoil.

Basically, if she kept her powers hidden and kingdom A and B wanted to marry her, she's going to have to try and eek out a matrilinial marriage (since she has no brothers and the crown passes along the male line normally). This usually puts her at a disadvantage already and limits her pool of suitors but, once done, is done. The most she might have to worry about is political manuvers to get Arendale absorbed by her husbands kingdom but that can be managed.

However with her powers on display, while her prestige will no longer be an issue and she might even get kingdoms that want to be absorbed by Arendale for protection, any kingdom she doesn't marry into is going to try and kill her to remove a very dangerous threat to their national security. Her best hope is to marry Ana off to someone else for army protection, but whichever kingdom of A or B she didn't marry will almost certainly seek out help from other nations to try and kill her since she's such a threat. To make it even worse they could easily seek the aid of the Pope and church and, well... her parents consorted with rock trolls and her powers are pretty blatantly magical in nature. Making her out to be some sort of demon witch who worships the devil wouldn't be a challenge in the slightest. She could easily end up with an entire crusade on her doorstep with only her powers and maybe a political alliance from her marriage and Anna's... maybe... to defend her.

Ultimately a loveless marriage > being executed for witchcraft and having your kingdom destroyed because you got too powerful but all that power was concentrated in one person.

However, if Ana is the queen (and Elsa is gone), all those problems go away. She's just a normal princess. At worst she might have a political marriage to deal with but that's far less damning and likely won't threaten her beyond a potentially loveless husband. Elsa can continue to help protect the nation from behind the scenes or fade away to live a mundane life with much reduced fear. Even if she has to face the occasional witch hunter, well, that's much easier than a crusade and potentially large number of assassins headed her way if she remained queen.
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Laugh, eat some bacon, and wonder what South Park will do with Manbearpig now.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

1) Lilith
2) Gaige
2.5) Athena if you know how to work her.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Yellow posted...

No.

Step siblings don't count as incest. They're as related as strangers.

I'm looking at you, porn sites.

So, then, if a family adopts a sibling into their ranks from when they're a baby and, when they grow up, they have sex with their non-adopted sibling, is it incest then since there's no genetic relationship?
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Tomorrow you go out and you marry a lovely woman whom you utterly adore and love. The wedding is perfect and great but you notice your father and her mother cozying on up together. A year later there's a new wedding happening between your father and her mother. Now you and your wife are brother and sister. Is it incest if you have sex with your wife now? If you have/had a kid are they now a child of incest?
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Genisis 5:4. The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters.

Cain and all of Adam's sons likely married their own sisters or something close to it. There is also the mention of divine beings also mating with man pre-flood era but this is not likely what you were referring to. It is important to note that, even from an entirely atheistic viewpoint, all humans have a 'most recent common ancestor that isn't too long ago species-wise. Simply put, the number of ancestors needed for even one person to not be related to one other person is simply staggering and it doubles with each generation. I forget the exact year but your ancestory tree would have more humans than ever existed sometime around 1,000 A.D. (or was it B.C.?) and that's just one person. So all humans are at least slightly inbred or else there'd be no way to have enough ancestors for you to exist.
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You repeat a lie long enough, loud enough, and people will believe it to be true whatever it is. Same thing is happening to the Moon Landings. All the evidence points to them happening, but an increasing number of people believe they didn't because of all the conspiracy theories.
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Wandering__Hero posted...

Unbridled9 posted...

What if two trans people, one male to female and the other female to male, play? Who gets the bonus?

Whichever one identifies as female. Fortunately the rules don't say you can't identify as a woman and report people who use the wrong pronouns to the police

So then all you have to do is identify as female? Sure. I'm a girl. Give me free money.
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What if two trans people, one male to female and the other female to male, play? Who gets the bonus?
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Because a ___ broke my window but I can't prove it.
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It was terrible. First movie I ever had to stop and come back to due to sheer stupidity... multiple times.
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LinkPizza posted...

Pikazard1 posted...

fade into unconsciousness, due to a hard impact from hitting a hard surface

possibly wake up some time later, with symptoms of a concussion

As long as you don't wake up nude tied to a chair or strapped to a bed, you'll be just fine...

So 'nude and being devoured by crocodiles' is fine?
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The main thing I've seen is people believing that we've basically gone out and irradiated, mutated, and everything else to the poor food. Like we took a harmless tomato and just turned it into some sort of monster from Attack of the Killer Tomatos and are now selling it right beside 'real' food. A GMO 'chicken' isn't a 'real' chicken but some mutant monstrosity and the farmers are bribing the government to let them sell their freak chickens as if it were real food.

Of course I have no clue why they never thought of 'maybe they are making a scam and bribing the government to slap a 'non-GMO' sticker on their food so they can sell it at jacked-up prices'. Not saying non-GMO's are a scam; just that these people seem to be veeeeery selective about what they believe.
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Used her drilldo
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Chuck Norris. Then we can disband the military. If places like China don't play nice, Chuck will round-house them into submission.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

4 > 5 > 6 > 7 > R1 > 3 > 2 > Solo > 1 > Ewok Adventure > Christmas Special > 8

4 is a classic and that's why I love it.

5 is probably 'better', but I dislike downer endings.

6 used to be my favorite when I was younger and I still love it but I will admit it's flawed in places.

7 was a rehash of 4

R1... well... Dorkly's answer was much better.

3 was okay

2 was a dumb sci-fi flick.

Solo just didn't have a reason to exist and, ignoring that, just was too obvious.

1 feels like there's no reason for it to exist.

Ewok Adventure was terrible but meant for little kids so...

Christmas Special was at least non-canon.

8... Was horrible. One of the few movies I had to put down and return to later to be able to stomach it.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

I choose my scientific field to be 'sex' and specifically 'techniques to pleasure members of the opposite sex'.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

If you agree to work long hours and do so knowingly and are paid for said long hours and so-forth, IDGAF. If you are effectively forced to do so without it being stated or paid and fired for 'poor teamwork' if you dare to go home and sleep... Yea. Something's wrong and I'm on your side.
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TheWorstPoster posted...

It's funny how they chose a mediocre and useless Pokemon as their mascot.

Its evolution is far more useful, but still mediocre.

After you catch one, you stick it in the PC until your acquire a thunderstone, evolve it, and then stick it back in the PC.

It was basically a last-minute decision for the anime. Clefairy was likely to be Ash's starter and Pikachu would have just been another mon but they felt Clefairy wasn't as marketable IIRC. So they changed Ash's starter to Pikachu and the rest is history. Notice how, in red and blue, Pikachu isn't special in the slightest? That's because originally he wasn't special. It wasn't till Yellow that it had any degree of speciality and even then it took quite a bit to become notable in-game beyond the yellow exclusivity.
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Had the games been designed with the intent that Pikachu would be the main star you might be right; but they weren't.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

I think it's better for layman weather and that's about it. Celsius is better for everything else.
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Should dwarven women have beards or should they be beardless like their human counterparts?
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I really like Franny. Mainly because you get to see what could have happened with her father if he had shaped up.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

wolfy42 posted...

So I have all my knowledge of martial arts, science, construction etc?

I mean seriously almost anyone with current day knowlege (who actually worked for a living etc, built things etc), would basically become a god.

First you take the tribe/town/city of people around you and show them how to improve their lives drastically, becoming their leader. You then train them, and upgrade weapons etc, start mining for materials that you need to eventually create a small nation that is far advanced compared to everyone else.

Then you just start dominating the world, expending constantly, upgrading technology while you let your minions do most of the work, teach knew young generations advanced education, math, constantly inventing knew (old to you) things etc.

Not only would you live to an old age, you would drastically change the history of the world.

In fact you could also set things up to ensure that the world never gets to the point it's at right now, ingrain population control at an early age (restricting the number of children per family to 3), prevent damaging of the earth and use natural sources of energy right from the start (even if that is just hydro and wind initially).

You could save the world!!

Well, that's not true of necessity. Like, do you know how to do stuff like make concrete or whatnot? Or how to do whatever else? Nevermind that you'd need to get the clout to have your words carry any weight. Some stuff might be realtively easy (like bathing) but if you think you're suddenly gonna get your little tribe outfitted with iSwords you're probably wrong.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Tomorrow you are reincarnated in the year 6 A.D. Born fresh from the womb you go through life, retaining all your current knowledge, until you reach the year 20 A.D. at which point you are 14 years old. During this time, be it luck or skill, you have not suffered any hardships like disease or a parent being unable to provide food for you but this (divine?) protection ends when your birthday comes (or came already). How long will you survive?

You can be reborn in any area you know you can trace your genetic routes to. If you happen to know something of your family history status (noble, merchant, smith, etc) you are reborn into a family of similar status but, otherwise, you are born into a peasent family or whatever the equivalent is for the culture.

Also, do you believe you'd be successful or struggling to get by? If so, why or why not?

I would likely be reborn in Ireland or Poland in a fairly well-off family. However, since these regions were largely tribal at the time I would probably not be able to accomplish much with my modern knowledge though I do suspect I could at least provide small edges to whatever group I was reborn into.
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Yes. As they are brother and sister they would be committing incest even if no genetics were involved at all. Especially since they are both biologically brother and sister and possess a familial relationship between each other (where-as a step-sibling may not have such a bond).

wolfy42 posted...

I would argue that incest in and of itself is not really bad, it's the potential for pregnancy that is bad, and of course the potential for abuse within a family as well.

If both of those factors are removed, which you would imagine would be true of the wonder twins, then there isn't really anything wrong if they get jiggy with each other.

Honestly unless they found some other shapeshifters around, they might not ever have anyone as compatible as each other for that matter.

Even without the genetic aspect incest usually is a sign that something is very wrong in the family dynamic. Typically either an absent parent or one sibling dominating another. While I'm certain 'healthy' relationships can occur that is typically not the case. Especially since most people are repulsed from incest due to a built-in genetic response as opposed to some cultural conditioning or something similar.
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Jen0125 posted...

So because something is challenging we shouldn't do it? You sound lazy and short sighted.

I didn't say that. I said that the plan he was giving was stupid. If we're on a boat sinking into shark-infested water and someone suggests you use the parts from the sinking ship to build a gundam to punch the sharks, you don't go along with it because it's the only plan, you say 'no, let's find the life rafts and rescue flares or something else'.

The reality is that this sort of situation is insanely difficult to resolve. Largely because there's a ton of factors involved. Like, for example, a great way to reduce pollution would be to find a way to get rid of cigarette butts. I can assure you that they make up a massive chunk of the litter you'll spot and getting rid of them would do a lot for the environment.
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Jen0125 posted...

Unbridled9 posted...

I don't care. It's a stupid idea and the failed and foolish prior attempt torpedoed any hope I had for a green new deal. At best this is a patch-up salvage attempt. More likely it's just Bernie's variation on the same core concepts. Total garbage.

Please elaborate what you find stupid about it?

Dude. He's calling for things like converting all our electrical and transportation needs to green energy by 2030. Even if our energy needs don't increase (insanely unlikely) the fact is that renewable energy simply isn't at the levels it needs to be at in order to achieve such a thing. Pretty much the only way it could happen is if they included 'nuclear' as a 'green' energy source. Even then you're looking at a massive amount of construction as well as decomissioning a ton of fossil fuel plants (losing those jobs) and replacing them with renewable and nuclear (which would likely need specialized training at best). Nevermind the challenge of converting trains, planes, ships, and automobiles to green energy across the entire freaking nation.

Of course this is ignoring that he's flat-out calling to remove things like nuclear plants, trash incinerators, and what-not.

So, yea, it's pretty stupid. He may as well be promising to invade Oz to enslave the Lolipop Guild to make them work the power plants for us for how feasible this all is. That's just going off of this times article. The government takes years just to pass simple contracts and would likely end up putzing around for years before finally getting down to building things and that's generously assuming it is even viable to do such an overhaul.
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I don't care. It's a stupid idea and the failed and foolish prior attempt torpedoed any hope I had for a green new deal. At best this is a patch-up salvage attempt. More likely it's just Bernie's variation on the same core concepts. Total garbage.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

darkknight109 posted...

Unbridled9 posted...

I don't think it will happen but it's far from stupid.

Some food for thought: when was the last time a country sold off a chunk of its territory the size of Greenland, citizens and all?

Go ahead and look it up. I'll wait.

Unbridled9 posted...

With both Alaska and Greenland America would effectively have only Canada and Russia as competition for arctic control.

Sure. As long as you don't count Iceland, Finland, Norway, and Sweden. Also China, if you put stock in their (admittedly ridiculous) claim to being a "near-Arctic nation".

That would probably be either Alaska or the Louisiana Purchase though I'm not really an expert on historical land sales.

And sure, but there is little denying that it would be a massive increase in power for America.
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Buying Greenland wouldn't be a bad move actually since it would allow strong control over the arctic as well as a large amount of resources. I don't think it will happen but it's far from stupid. With both Alaska and Greenland America would effectively have only Canada and Russia as competition for arctic control. I don't think it will happen, but it's not as dumb as people make it out to be.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

KeijiMaedaTiger posted...

Unbridled9 posted...

That means buying a Bioware game means giving money to a company that is pretty much the most hated in the industry and has even won most hated worldwide twice.

Then buy them second hand, they release decent games no need to deprive yourself of something you might enjoy. They stopped the whole using codes to coerce you into buying new ages ago. So a used copy works fine and they don't see a dime.

Codes don't work for the DLC, but if you can. Sure.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Lokarin posted...

I find most of them entirely heartless.

If anything, Fallout 3 made me care LESS about the people and more about the loot options... ... ... which since the game is about someone living in an idealized underground and then going out into a heartless/greedy world........ suits the narrative.

But asides that!

Bioware, Bethesda, old Goldbox, Ultima, ... Fable

Fable ALMOST made me care, but tried too hard to be funny instead of emotionally invested.

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Now, by WRPG I mean in the popular sense, since technically games like Undertale and LISA are technically WRPGs, but they don't fit the same style as the classics.

I'll say jade empire as opposed to fable. To me it felt like fable but more serious. When i did something evil it actually made me feel bad.

The problem with Bioware is that it's now owned by EA. That means buying a Bioware game means giving money to a company that is pretty much the most hated in the industry and has even won most hated worldwide twice.

Even then, pretty much everything before DAII is good (Jade Empire is really under-loved) and DAII and beyond is... garbage.
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Try The Witcher.

I would normally also suggest ME 1/2 but since that's EA-owned...
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

That said, slavery wasn't finally outlawed across British colonies until 1834, fewer than 30 years before the Emancipation Proclamation. While I haven't extensively researched a timeline, I kinda expect that America and the UK were having similar debates around the same time... then again, even the founding fathers who criticized slavery were often slaveholders themselves (including Alexander Hamilton, who also bought and sold slaves on behalf of relatives).

First off, slavery in the north was drastically different than it was in the south. This is largely due to the higher industrialization and lack of a serious cash crop. So a slave in the north would likely be about on-par with a maid or servant as opposed to what happened down south. To top it off the North had a massive number of immigrants so there was little point in spending the money to buy and maintain a slave when you could hire an immigrant for pathetic wages. The issue with the south, however, is that it's economy was largely dependent on crops in order to survive. As such outlawing slavery would have meant complete economic ruin for the south. However even in the south there were problems with the quality of the goods grown and, were it not for the invention of the Cotton Gin (which was, sadly, invented to try and make life better for the remaining slaves as opposed to revitalizing the industry) it's likely it would have died out. But with the Cotton Gin revitalizing the industry the south's economy was further tied to the cash crop which required slaves.

In Britain it was illegal to own slaves and even in the colonies it was a grey area. The growing importance of the American colonies meant it wasn't unlikely that England would have outlawed slavery before long which would have ruined the south. The north was no fan of slavery either and desired it gone but it needed the south in order to succeed in the war of independence. They did work to do things like outlaw the import of fresh slaves though.

The Civil War was really sort of inevitable to be honest. There was no way that a centralized government could have continued to permit slavery in the south with the increasing hatred in the north. Likewise a decentalized government would likely have crumbled apart upon this issue and the only way unity could be preserved would be permitting slavery across the nation which would have outraged the North. With the newly-born Republican party running a president on strong anti-slavery agendas it was blatant that, if Lincoln won, the south would have a choice between succession or economic ruin. We can still see this today as the south is notoriously full of things like rednecks which are basically the result of said economic collapse.
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So conflicting ideologies may not be the source of hatred and intolerance, but they are most definitely a cause. Especially theistic, dogmatic religions that literally state, "this is the way and all others are false."

Not really. As PO stated; while they may have been used as an excuse they were rarely the cause. Nobunaga Oda didn't attack the Ikko Ikki because they believed different, he attacked for various strategic reasons. This is not to say that religions haven't been a cause for war of course, but even when it is you usually see a larger culture and religion trying to displace or oppress a smaller culture and religion and said smaller culture/religion resorting to violence to survive.

Once again, this is not to say that religion has never been used for war. The Flower Wars and the invasions of the Hittites (at least I think. I know one of those really old cultures did it but I can't remember which one) were religiously motivated, for example, but even then those tended to be an exception as opposed to the rule.

Shockingly people don't like fighting and potentially dying just because someone believes differently. It makes far more sense to try and get along in peace and engage in things like trade than it does to try and declare a war simply because someone believes different. Even if you're ruled by another religion it makes sense to try and live a peaceful life so long as said rulers don't try to oppress you and, odds are, they won't because it's surprisingly hard to actually oppress a religion. In fact the most major religious oppressors tend to be atheistic, communist, governments (see the CCP, USSR, North Korea, and so-forth). And it makes sense too since said governments and ideologies often demand complete loyalty to the state and even the most benign and peaceful religion represents deviation from that demand.
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kind9 posted...

I agree that morality is fluid and not absolute, which is opposite to what the bible preaches. I think hatred and intolerance exists because ideologies that divide us exist. So we should at least strive to eliminate or minimize the influence of those ideologies.

Two of the greatest mass murderers in history became so prolific via killing their own people. People who shared an ideology. Ghengis Khan is regarded as one of the most violent and destructive people in history and he was actually pretty accepting of other ideologies. Many wars are motivated by things that have no bearing upon ideology. To think that simply getting everyone to believe the same thing would result in unity is about as sensible as believing that getting everyone to eat the same thing would cause it. While it is true that things such as religion have been a cause for war in the past this can be said for many, many, things. Heck, one war was fought over a stool and America and Canada almost ended up in a war because of a pig once.

Intolerance exists because of how humans think. It is extremely easy to form an in-group and out-group bias. Think back to the console wars. There is no reason why someone couldn't have both a Nintendo or Sega console and there was absolutely no reason for it to end up being divisive. Yet hatred and feuds filled the air simply over if you owned Nintendo or Sega. How many Nerds hate Jocks or Jocks hate Nerds simply because that's what they were told to do? How many people do you hate just because they're friends with someone you hate despite that you've never even spoken to them? Your ideology doesn't matter. They are the other. They are not part of the group. Therefore you will hate them even if the only difference between you is that one group likes Kirk and the other Picard.
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

BUMPED2002 posted...

Hate is in America's DNA and that goes back to the Colonies and the Black codes which were a set of law used to divide the races.

religions caused more deaths than anything

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PHAHAHAHAHAHA! No. Not by a looooooooong shot. Especially since you have no way to prove or verify such a statement or weight it against the number of lives improved.

Let me break it to you. Hatred has been part of humanity since the beginning, it's was almost certainly part of whatever species preceded humanity, it will proceed to be part of humanity, and nothing will ever change all that. It's also incredibly important to remember that things we see as acceptable, good, normal, or anything else simply were not, have not, and will not be the same in any other time. You go back in time and you'll find plenty of people who didn't harbor an ounce of ill-will towards a race doing things we'd consider racist today. Likewise, go into the future even a decade and you'll find people upset that we thought and did things they consider amoral while debating morality we'd never even think about. Thinking humanity can be some peaceful, loving, species once we get rid of the evil racist and hateful people with old and outdated beliefs is a dream that will never exist. Especially since you will, one day, be the 'ist' and hateful old person with outdated beliefs.

Edit: For the record, if you want a real candidate for 'killed more people than anything' you should be looking at disease, politics, and classism/communism. Even that's impossible to verify simply because there's no way to truly notorize or quantify such things.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

captpackrat posted...

This is a nifty website that gives you the Google Street View of random locations throughout the world.

http://www.globegenie.com/

Cool.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Now go and use a map to look up those co-ordinates. Where did you pick?
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage

Back in the day Battleships carried the heaviest and largest number of guns. This not only allowed them to bombard coastlines extremely effectively but the heavier shells and increased firepower allowed them to rupture most armor on ships. As a result you'd basically build your fleets with them as the centerpiece since they could easily do the most damage but needed proper support.

Now-a-days, they have become increasingly pointless. Most conflicts involving a force large enough to field a battleship are against a force that, decidedly, cannot. Even when they may be relevant aircraft carriers have proven themselves to be more valuable and effective as a capitol ship meaning most nations would rather just have an aircraft carrier. Especially since the craft it contains can preform a variety of tasks.

The thing is that there hasn't been a clash of powerful nations since WWII. As a result even the aircraft carrier mindset might be extremely outdated but there has yet to be a war where it could be viably challenged.
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I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage