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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

I still think Harper should have just gone into John Oliver's show and just discuss the situation he's in and his independent contractor status. That would get him relieved from his contract ASAP.

I can see why he doesn't because he has a family and he probably doesn't want to blackball himself from WWE forever, especially when it might not suck so much when Vince is gone, but man.

This would have been an amazing piece if he did. I'm guessing we'll see something like that from someone if AEW really takes off as a long term alternative.
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NBIceman posted...

What an incredibly bizarre opinion.

One person speaking out against immoral and all-around shitty business practices is childish and unprofessional, but if there were a few others it'd be fine?

Sasha never spoke out publicly against it though. If she had said "hey, this is why I'm gone" it'd be different. She didn't say anything aside from a few little comments on twitter.

If there was a mass walkout, I'd be willing to bet that there would be some kind of statement saying that they're walking out because they're treated like shit, and it wouldn't be a dozen people just sitting there making said little comments on twitter. If you feel strongly enough to walk out, feel strongly enough to speak out as well.

That's how I look at it at least. I've never said all of my thoughts and opinions are correct, just explaining how my brain works!
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Steiner posted...

then you misunderstand me - i think the rest of the roster should be more like sasha. or at least all the talented ones.

I was actually going to disagree with this, but the more I think about it the more I find myself agreeing. WWE desperately needs to change how it treats the talent (just look at the Harper situation), and as long as Vince remains in charge, I think a mass walkout might be the only thing that gets his attention since losses in ratings haven't scared him enough. If he's left with a roster of undercard people,

It'd be a lot harder for me to be critical of Sasha for acting that way if there were a bunch of others doing the same thing. The fact that she's the only one kind of makes her stand out, and I think that's part of the problem in my eyes.
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Steiner posted...

okay so "Demanded to be released from her contract early" can be worded as "asked for her release", if you're okay with framing some things neutrally rather than in the worst possible light for sasha. "Refused to show up for work" - isn't that her being sent home because the company wanted her to rest off what was pissing her off? And finally, "Whined and complained on twitter.", which she just didn't do. like, i follow her, i don't need any report for that.

We're looking at things from a different angle I think. I'm viewing her actions negatively because I don't like the way she was acting, and you're viewing them positively because you think she was acting properly, so I think you're right about the first two points.

As far as Twitter goes, I'm interpreting all of the random vague tweets she made at the time as her was of trying to be subtle in complaining about her situation. You're interpreting them as normal tweets. Really no way to know who's correct on that one since it's just interpretations.

I still think her handling of everything is a lot different than how Moxley went about it though.
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I know you guys probably think I hate Sasha, but I actually still like her. I just don't know why she feels like she should be treated differently than everybody else on the roster, since 98% of them are booked like shit. Hell, my oldest still wears her Legit Boss sunglasses and her Sasha shirt on a regular basis.
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Moxley: Showed up for work and finished out his contract even though he hated how he was being booked and how all of his ideas were being ignored. Was a professional throughout the entire process. Apples and oranges compared to Sasha

Harper: I believe he kept pitching ideas to creative, and he didn't actually walk out, he was trying to get back in the mix and only asked for his release when they said they had nothing for him and decided not to use him for the remainder of his contract (which is really, really shitty and shouldn't be allowed)'

Pac: Don't really know much about his situation. Just that he was pissed about losing to Enzo.

Sasha: Whined and complained on twitter. Demanded to be released from her contract early. Refused to show up for work

Assuming my info on Harper is correct, there's a pretty big difference between his situation and Sasha's, and Sasha and Moxley are nothing alike. Moxley acted like an adult, and Sasha didn't.
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Steiner posted...

yes, charlotte sasha and asuka are the good ones

It's really a shame that their gross mishandling of Asuka has made her forgettable. She should always be up there at the top of the division, instead of an afterthought.

Seems pretty clear you don't like Becky. What about people like Io, Shayna, Ronda, Nattie, Ruby, Nikki Cross, Sonya, Kairi, and Bayley? The women's division has a ton of talent right now, I don't know how all of them would be not good. They might not be at Sasha level, but I wouldn't call them bad either.
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Steiner posted...

and you're right, I forgot about Asuka, make it 3.

So who is the other one, Charlotte I'm assuming? I could see a case for saying maybe Sasha is better than Becky, but there's no way she's better than Charlotte.

As far as Sasha acting like I child, you believe she wasn't, I believe she was. My 5 year old responds in a similar manner when she doesn't get her way. Booking in WWE is pretty terrible for everybody, but most people show up and act like a professional, and don't demand a release because they didn't like the way they were booked. Having them drop the titles that early was a stupid move for sure, but one of the two moved on and dealt with it, the other whined and cried. To me, that's childish, since it's something I see often from my own children.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Oh everyone ready to start hating Sasha Banks again?

no she's one of like two good women on the roster

Sasha's good under the right circumstances. She has to have a huge important match or she has to be winning. If neither of those are happening, she doesn't try. If it's an important match, she tries to steal the show and do all sorts of dangerous stuff that generally involves her almost killing herself.

Out of curiosity, who do you think the other good woman is aside from Sasha? Charlotte, Asuka, and Becky are all better than she is without really thinking about it. They also don't act like children when they don't get their way.
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ZeroSignal620 posted...

ninkendo posted...

Corbin and Evans mysteriously fell off the earth as soon as Heyman took over so who knows

This, probably. Both have only made one appearance each since Extreme Rules; Corbin in the battle royal for #1 contender and Evans on this week's upcoming Main Event (LOL)

I can only hope this happens more. Corbin is just bland, and Evans still needs a lot of work. She's not like Billie where the character work can sort of make up for her in ring flaws.
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Thank you Sasha, wow. Does Canada hate Nattie now?
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Wow, they finally let Sasha go back to her more natural heel.

Blue hair too
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And there she is
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I was wondering how the whole story about the writers wanting to make a new star with MitB this year was going to work when Lesnar won it. I guess it technically did give a lot to Rollins.

What do people think about the possibility of Sasha finally coming back tonight or tomorrow?
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Based on the recap and the reactions they kept talking about for Owens, could he be the new face of the company? That'd be awesome
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1160697178647670787

If Roman is going to keep using the spear, it needs to look more like this
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guffguy89 posted...

Good to see the brewers finally stringing together some consecutive wins.

It certainly was! And then Minor pitches a gem after Lyles gave up 1 run over 7 innings. They have such a hard time with their starters, and when they get a game like the the other guy on the mound is even better.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B01AhU1AUh8/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

This might be the best thing on Instagram
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WiggumFan267 posted...

extend him now then. when's he a FA?

He's a free agent in 2023, but has a 2022 buyout. I don't think they have the money to extend him now, or they probably would have.

They're just shy of 128 million this year, and that's the highest they've ever had. The Cubs have almost 90 million more than they do on payroll. The only hope is that he seems to love Milwaukee and the culture they have, since they're not going to be able to pay him what some of the really big spenders would.
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The announcers were talking about the Mets and how much of a hot streak they're on during the Brewers/Pirates game last night.

Pretty sure Keston Hiura is going to be the real deal. Too bad Yelich is probably gone as soon as his contract is up, to one of the really rich teams.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

I'm not even sure who was shopping for Smith or Madbum to begin with or if any serious offers had been made.

And they aren't completely out of it by any stretch, but it's sorely disappointing to see how quickly they fell after such a brilliant surge.

The Brewers wanted both, but it sounds like the sellers in general were asking for way too much this year. They had to settle for Black and Drew.
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WiggumFan267 posted...

no matter what happens in the end, this is amazing because getting to experience meaningful and fun August baseball is a thing that does not happen to Mets fans very often.

As a Brewers fan, I feel your pain. We get that magic year or two, and then it's back in the toilet for a while.

Enjoy the ride! With their pitching they could make some noise this year
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So Pomeranz is a free agent after this year. And the Brewers (who have what seems to be considered the worst farm system in the league) gave up one of their few prospects for a rental. What the hell.

Also, they traded Marcos Diplan to the Twins for cash. So much to keep track of.
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We didn't need Aguilar really, he hasn't been that good this year. Still, our first base platoon is now 3 lefties, and Travis Shaw has sucked this year. Hard.

Brewers also traded with the Giants, reported as "significant". Thought they were getting Will Smith or Madison Bumgarner. Turns out it was Drew Pomeranz and Ray Black for Mauricio Dubon (one of the few prospects they had that was worth anything).

They got Jake Faria for Aguilar, and also got Jordan Lyles earlier in the week. Still don't think it'll be enough considering how crowded the NL is, and how long they waited with no real pitching after Woodruff and Hader, but maybe they'll go on another run.
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This Brewers/Cubs series has been great, and I can't watch any of it because Sling and Fox can't reach an agreement.
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TheRock1525 posted...

So Rikishi couldn't get cleared by the WWE medical team to perform a Stink Face.

How is that even possible?

My guess is that he didn't wipe
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ZeroSignal620 posted...

Roman: "You got something to say about my family?"

Joe: "I already said something!"

Seriously though, Joe's still the best on the mic

It's a shame that they keep trying to make him into this monster, but he never wins anything that matters.
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The Brewers inability/refusal to spend money on pitching has officially derailed this season now that Woodruff is out for a month.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Strowman re-signs for 4 years with WWE. Also, I did not know he is almost 36.

This is disappointing. They're just going to keep protecting him while never actually giving him a shot.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

It's absolute Vince.

Fixed
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Owens is SDL
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https://twitter.com/tde_wrestling/status/1150957688777560064

This is so damn funny
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Drew deserves better

Also, hi Bray!
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Strowman got a pretty good pop there
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ZeroSignal620 posted...

Question is, who dethrones the Beast now? Really there are only two choices

- Rollins in a rematch where he wins clean
- Cancer surviving superstar Roman Reigns

Unless they finally pull the trigger and push Braun, which I highly doubt knowing their history

Theyll never push Braun. Theyll keep protecting him, but theyll never do anything with him either.
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https://twitter.com/statsbystats/status/1149926435752173568?s=21

https://twitter.com/daniel_jac9/status/1149936673645404160?s=21

It doesnt end there. So many interesting stats about that game/Tyler.
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Whiskey_Nick posted...

Owens was on fire there. Fantastic

Owens being Owens. Hot start to SDL
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StealThisSheen posted...

...So who wins if the last member of one team is a man and the other a woman?

Baron Corbin/Lacey Evans get another title shot should that scenario happen.
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ZeroSignal620 posted...

Also it was the go home segment before Extreme Rules, for a match involving the Undertaker, who was not there

This shouldn't be a surprise. They've built around Brock Lesnar for so long and he's never there.
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The ending to that episode of Futurama where Fry's dog is waiting for him for like a decade

ExThaNemesis posted...

Dr. Cox and the Fray comes to mind.

This one is up there for me too!
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

I just heard the summary of the Mike Kanellis thing.

What the FUCK?

According to PWInsider, Heyman's new ideas and direction are being implemented slowly. Because of that I'm going to assume Vince.
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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27099081/angels-pitcher-tyler-skaggs-27-dies-texas

Some more info there
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Just saw that. Glad they cancelled the game tonight.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Braun Strowman is working through an injury apparently. This guy has some bad luck.

And bad timing. He was red hot during a time period when Vince only cared about Roman.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Like, I guess we'll wait and see, but I have no optimism about this at all.

I think this is the right approach. Vince still has the final decision.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

We are told that they will be overseeing all aspects of their individual series, answering directly to Vince McMahon. They are now the top of the pyramid, respectively, for Raw and Smackdown but obviously McMahon will always have the last say. One WWE source compared their roles to Paul Levesque's in NXT in that they will be in charge, but it's still Vince's company.

This is promising.

I wonder how many wrestlers are celebrating right now. Guessing 97% of the roster
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Speaking of terrible pitching, how about the Brewers! They'll be lucky to finish within 10 games of the Cubs this year.
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Simpsons
Phoenix Wright
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

RaidenGarai posted...

The wife and I just received our autographed Christian Yelich MVP bat, complete with picture of him signing it and a hologram showing it was verified as legitimate by Steiner Sports.

That's a pretty cool authentication process

I called the company to ask if we'd get something showing that the autograph is legitimate, and he said they don't do certificates anymore since they're easy to forge, they have a sticker/stamp that they put on the product now. Wasn't aware of that! The picture was an added bonus, and I need to get a frame now to display next to the bat an my other Brewers pieces!

My productivity today at work is in the toilet now.
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The wife and I just received our autographed Christian Yelich MVP bat, complete with picture of him signing it and a hologram showing it was verified as legitimate by Steiner Sports.
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