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Is there a reason why you can't go outside at night in this game? You can in 3 and 5.
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Raka_Putra posted...

Is the procedure similar to how Final Destination 5 portrayed it?

Yes, the doctor set a laser into my eye and then left the room.
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swordz9 posted...

If they can ever find a way to do the procedure while youre asleep I would 100% do it, cut I cant be awake seeing how its done. Id have a panic attack

It's nerve-wracking, but it's not like the worst thing ever.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Which one did you get?

I am very close to getting it... just need to pull the trigger. It's so damn affordable nowadays too.

Which one in what sense? I just got lasik.
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You Can't Handle the Truth scene (A Few Good Men)

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Laser eye surgery done. I can now zap things from afar.

I can also now see things from a distance. The doctor told me it went perfectly. The edges of bright things are still fuzzy, and my eyes are like comically red, and I discovered that I'm really bad at putting in eye drops. Also I slept for two hours as soon as I got home. Currently rocking some sunglasses a nurse gave me.

One thing I notice is that if I close one eye, my right eye's vision is fine, but my left eye's vision is blurry. Hoping that will disappear quickly.
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Dantezoid posted...

Maybe after this you'll realize trauma center is a great game

Unlikely.
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Wish me luck in not getting blinded or something.
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Murphiroth posted...

Nothing at the link.

That's weird, but I replaced it with a new link.
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39. MOTOR HEAD
Game: BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger
Score: 49/100
Nominator: cakphon

Things I Liked: 0:50
Things I Disliked: The background deep strings

My only experience with BlazBlue was when I bought I think the second? game, went online, and got savaged by a million of those blond ice guys. It was nothing but blond ice guy central, I dont think I won a single game. As for this song, I like the deeper chord music that starts at 0:50, but thats about it.
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40. UP TOWN DRIVE WAY
Game: Touge Max
Score: 48/100
Nominator: UF8

Things I Liked: Nothing
Things I Disliked: Nothing

As Ive said before, I have no strong feelings for guitar riffs unless theyre synthy, and this is almost nothing but non-synthy guitar riffs. I do like the rhythm of the song getting low-pitched and then high-pitched again, I dont know enough about music to describe that better.
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Horrible website, but it's the only one I could find. Gotta scroll down for it.
https://www.comingsoon.net/tv/trailers/1070339-star-trek-picard-teaser

I don't know if I buy Picard ever leaving Starfleet for anything other than old age/medical reasons.
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Replace Asgore with CORE (Undertale)

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Asgore (Undertale)


Battle Against a True Hero (Undertale)


Spear of Justice (Undertale)


Megalovania (Undertale)

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I thought of this after "are there any lawyer games besides Phoenix Wright?" But doctor stands out to me more because Trauma Center isn't really that good, yet there's been no serious attempt to conquer the genre since, at least as far as I can remember.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Oh nice. I had that about 6 years ago myself. 100% worth it.

Yeah, I hope so. My eyes are dilated right now from their tests, and it's hard to look at my computer screen even with the disposable sunglasses they gave me.
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Laser eye
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Getting surgery tomorrow, will not be able to play until Friday.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Well, you could always watch the new cutscenes online after you're done.

Sounds like a plan, thats what I did for The Answer.
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Yeah, Im still bummed about having to play the original, but I just dont have access to a vita.
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Anyone else seeing this this weekend?

Friend Like Me


Prince Ali


Arabian Nights

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LeonhartFour posted...

Well yeah, of course she does. That's part of the dichotomy that P4 emphasizes. They aren't bad people, but there are still parts of themselves they're ashamed of and would never want to admit.

Yeah, I've been enjoying the cast so far. They're less down-to-earth than P3's, but not as wacky as P5's. I could use some more 'team bonding' scenes, though.
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41. Objection! 2016
Game: Ace Attorney: Spirit of Justice
Score: 48/100
Nominator: GavsEvans128

Things I Liked: The opening, the buildup at about 1:03
Things I Disliked: The background noise that starts at 0:56

Ive never played Phoenix Wright. Im not sure if legal music is a genre, but I dont think this is it. This is just okay to me. I can imagine this playing while youre arguing in front of the judge or something, but it doesnt really fill me with the spirit of yeah gotta prove my clients innocence or anything. Like a lot of the mid-tier songs, it just kind of feels like background music.
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KamikazePotato posted...

I would actually say then opposite. Yosuke and Chie's inner feelings focused on how they wanted to take advantage of people they cared about to make themselves feel better. Rise just really..really...wants attention, which while embarrassing in how its displayed is less 'bad'.

Not sure about that, especially in Chie's case. It's made immediately clear that she genuinely cares for Rise anyway.
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Oh, I always just defended that attack.
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LeonhartFour posted...

but yeah, atmospherically, Shadow Rise followed by Shadow Teddie is one of the strongest sequences in the game

It's definitely the best scene in the game so far. Part of that is sold on Shadow Teddie's voice, it's really good.
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- I also have to say that for some reason, the angle you see Shadow Teddie at when he's in 'injured' mode is hilarious. He's like pulling back from you and his eyes are wobbly and his mouth is all over the place, I love it.
- I also like how Rise does nothing the entire battle. I remember Fuuka and Futaba being integral to the battles they join you for, but Rise never even speaks for this entire fight.
- I have to say, this is probably the easiest boss fight so far. I was never in serious danger of losing, though part of that is because I always stock up on anti-status effect items.
- Teddie accepts his inner whateverness and gains a persona. Shadow Teddie still doesn't tell him what's going on, though. You know, the previous shadows didn't have secret plot information they were hiding, so I just sort of assumed their knowledge was identical to the 'real' person's knowledge.
- Rise collapses because she's so tired after her persona awakened. Meanwhile Teddie stands literally three feet away.
- Everyone goes back to the entrance to the TV world. Is... is no one concerned how Teddie is still flat? I know he obeys cartoon physics, but come on. Also, Rise is sure taking all of this well for someone who should have zero idea what's happening.
- Later that night, Dojima and Adachi come home. Adachi tells Greg that there's a new detective in town who's also a teenage boy. Oh man, did Persona 5 do anything original? But I'm really just making a joke here because I am absolutely certain this detective is Obviously-a-Girl.
- I then go back to do Margaret's next request only to learn that it requires a four-way fusion, and those aren't available yet. Guess I'm stuck with a bunch of tear drop personas until it's time.

I should say that I really enjoy the Shadow Teddie concept. I didn't see it coming, it's done very well, and the boss' design is excellent. It really feels like a major moment in the game, as opposed to Shadow Kanji and Shadow Yukiko, who just feel like we're fighting bosses. Like neither of those times did I feel narratively like I'm closer to something significant, it just felt like I was saving people.

It does completely steal Rise's thunder, though. Like, we get these long emotional scenes dedicated to Yosuke, Chie, Yukiko, and Kanji accepting their inner shadows, but Rise gets it over with in ten seconds so that Teddie can take over. The part where she's supposed to calmly walk to Shadow Rise and be all "I accept that this is what I am, I've grown as a person, now I understand myself more thoroughly" is done so quickly that it's actually kind of funny, but I appreciate that they had to write it that way because you can't do that twice in a row with Rise and Teddie.

Out of curiosity, how far am I, percentage-wise?
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- Whoever said this dungeon would take less time than the previous ones is a dirty liar, but eventually I get to the top.
- Rise is there with Shadow Rise. I just had an idea to make this funnier: Rise keeps to her idol personality and wants to suppress being a normal person, and her dungeon is like just a normal house, and her shadow just sits around and watches TV and eats Dorito's while she denies this being her true self and wants to tell herself that she's an awesome interesting person. I realize that completely changes the scene and the character, but it would absolutely be funnier.
- I like Shadow Rise's design, rainbow stripper is an interesting idea.
- You know, everyone is very sympathetic to each other, being all "I was like this too?" or "We were all like this," but honestly, Yosuke's and Chie's inner feelings were way less embarrassing.
- Beating Shadow Rise is easy until she makes herself invincible. She defeats us in a cutscene, but Teddie summons a super saiyan aura and defeats her somehow. This also makes him turn flat because ???
- Rise and Shadow Rise merge, and Rise says "there's no real me." This sets off Teddie, and so is summoned Shadow Teddie. Shadow Teddie tells him that he has no forgotten memories and is about to explain what he really is when Teddie says "no don't that's a spoiler, save it for when it's more dramatically appropriate." Shadow Teddie agrees that this is a good idea and suggests we have a boss battle instead.
- I like how Teddie's Shadow is this deep-voiced, well-spoken guy. I might be wrong with my earlier prediction about Adachi. All of the other shadows were like 'this is part of your real self' and were excitable or fey or whatever, point being that Teddie's equivalent to this acting implies that whatever he is is much more complex.
- Teddie is knocked out of the action, but Rise says "yo dawg I'm the Fuuka/Futaba of this game and I'll take over for Teddie, maybe in Persona 6 this role will be filled by a boy, but I doubt it."
- Does Koromaru feel left out for being the only mascot character to not also be a battle commentator? Because I would absolutely have taken BARK BARK BARK WOOF over Mitsuru.
- Other shadows turn into monsters that tell you something about the characters' inner emotions or whatever. Shadow Teddie turns into a giant version of himself with a broken face that reveals the inner infinite darkness within, very symbolic of how he's empty in literal terms and deep with meaning and implications. Or maybe I'm just full of ****. What I can say for sure is that I was very thankful my characters got fully healed between fights.
- I'll be totally honest here: this fight was made way easier by me getting a persona with a +def spell very early on, me getting it upgraded randomly into a +party def spell, and me just transferring that over every time I fused it. It's been useful before, but here it was especially useful because it could quickly undo Shadow Teddie's -party def spell.
- I have no idea what nihil hand is even supposed to do. He telegraphs it for two turns, and guarding blocks its entire effect.
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Mac dead ;_;

Are you? I didn't even notice that.
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Ride of the Rohirrim (Lord of the Rings)


Vader's Reveal (Star Wars)
https://www.starwars.com/video/i-am-your-father

Conversation with Sovereign (Mass Effect)

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42. Flame (Homura)
Game: Ar Tonelico 2
Score: 48/100
Nominator: Mac Arrowny

Things I Liked: Nothing, really
Things I Disliked: Nothing, really

Standard Japanese woman singing wistfully about wishes or fate or friendship or something song. I bet you can lay this over the end credits for 95% of anime and it would fit.
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I ate two single-person microwavable pizzas I bought to check if they were good. They were easily the worst pizzas I've ever had in my life. Still ate them, though.
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theawesomestevr posted...

Anagram posted...

Do I get experience and gold from enemies knocked away by Chie's galactic punt?

Yep.

Great, thanks.
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Oh, thanks.

- We watch the Midnight Channel again, and shockingly, Rise is on it. Or more specifically, Shadow Rise, since her eyes are yellow. She announces that she's going to "push the limits of standards and practices" and "bear it all for you."
- Teddie complains that we forgot about him and he got lonely. Anyway, he eventually says to go find a hint about her so he can track her down.
- Alright, time for another patented Anagram Predix: Teddie has some kind of connection to Adachi. He either is Adachi or he's Shadow Adachi something like that.
- Isn't it a pretty big deal that Rise disappeared like two days after coming to town? I'd think the cops would be everywhere after a celebrity disappearing.
- I eventually get enough information for Teddie to track Rise down. She's at a strip club, so we just go in immediately.
- Deeper into the strip club, we find Shadow Rise. Again, it fools Yosuke and Chie for a second. Come on, guys. Literal blue DBZ aura. You're detectives. Come on.
- Again, the random title cards are the best part. I love these things. I'm not even making a joke, they're so good.
- Anyway, she announces that she'll soon flaunt herself. "What we just saw was her repressed self!" She... flaunts herself in her idol persona, acts tired and normal when not in her idol persona, but secretly she wants to flaunt everything? Okay then.
- To my absolute shock, there's no miniboss.
- A random enslaved beast decided to crit, get a second turn, and crit again. Fun times.
- A samurai guy ambushes me, increases his crit rate, attacks Chie--and misses, falling down and letting me use an all-out attack. Very intimidating.
- I reach what I assume will be a miniboss, but I just use traestro and leave the dungeon. I'll fight it after saving and eating some pizza.
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Do I get experience and gold from enemies knocked away by Chie's galactic punt?
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LeonhartFour posted...

I think they mention this at one point (it's not really a spoiler or anything), but the Midnight Channel appears clearer to some people than others. It can also appear clearer or blurrier from day to day.

Well, they watched it on the same day, but that is a fair point about some people having an easier time. I definitely didn't hear that anywhere yet.
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- Oh my godddddd it's Rise on the Midnight Channel, who could have predicted thisssss
- I actually was shocked to see her, but only because I thought there'd be more tiptoeing around and teasing the audience, I didn't expect it to just immediately be the next plot point.
- I like how Greg thinks "she looks somewhat like Rise," like anyone else has that hairstyle.
- We meet Adachi outside of the tofu shop where Rise is staying. He's not conspicuous at all.
- We meet Rise, who's very tired and normal outside of her idol persona.
- She denies being on the Midnight Channel based on the specific swimsuit being worn. I like how the Midnight Channel is so blurry that Greg can barely make it out half the time, but Rise can identify swimsuits and cup-sizes.
- Rise talks to Dojima and Adachi, and mentions "three guys wearing school uniforms," even though one of us wasn't in a uniform. Dojima begins to suspect that we know something, and Adachi clearly isn't evil.
- Rise shows up on the Midnight Channel again. The next day, Yosuke rules out that all of the victims are connected to Ms. Yamano. You know, I just remembered that the husband and wife in the affair never got closure. I bet they'll show up again later somehow.
- They speculate that the Midnight Channel shows might be an announcement, but to whoooooooom? Yukiko puts together that we're seeing the culprit's intentions.
- Isn't Kanji supposed to be 14 or 15? I'm fine with him being huge for his age, that's funny, but there is no 14 or 15 year-old with a Vegeta hairline.
- Everyone decides to do another stakeout. As they buy snacks, Adachi shows up, so we all go together. There actually is a weird stalker, and Adachi arrests him as a suspect for the murders. I don't know, though. Maybe it's the fact that I can't imagine this kind of story having a tubby murderer, the guy's voice being ridiculous, or the fact that he doesn't even have a portrait, but somehow I think this would fool zero people. I mean, come on, at least give this guy a portrait, at least pretend he might be the real murderer.
- Everyone goes to talk to Rise, but she's gone.
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LeonhartFour posted...

also you successfully blended Dojima and Sojiro there

I regret nothing.
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- I'd never tried to use the fox's services before. 30650 yen to heal, huh? No thank you.
- I should say that I love how Kanji uses a folding chair as his weapon.
- Got all the side quest items and reached the last floor of the bathhouse again. Took longer than I expected.
- Tried to do the bonus boss of the bathhouse. I feel like I could beat him, but it would require him to miss a few times, and my +dodge chance accessories don't seem to be working. For now, I give up.
- An old woman's advice on how to woo girls: "Don't ruffle her feathers. You have to keep telling her exactly what it is she wants to hear. That's a surefire way to win her heart!"
- "That's not Yukiko-san... She was better gloomy." Sounds like someone has a fetish for goth girls. I don't blame him.
- "Ms. Sofue was saying something about being happy she could recharge her rod."
- Nanako and Dojiro both tell me to come back with higher expression, they're ridiculous.
- At a campout, the girls cook for us poorly, and Yosuke lays into them. I think it's supposed to be funny, but he's way too cruel for that.
- I bet you thought I'd complain about how Yosuke continues to be scared of them gays, or how Kanji feels he must prove himself not gay by barging into a girl's tent, or how every joke about the fat girl is that she's fat, or how Yosuke tricks the girls into going swimming with him. Nope. Instead I'm going to complain about how tall these tents are. I was in the boy scouts for thirteen years, dammit. I've been on dozens or hundreds of campouts, there is no tent this spacious.
- I only just realized that everyone has a different posture when just standing around. Chie puts her hands on her waist, Yukiko folds her hands behind her waist, Yosuke folds his arms, Kanji just lets his arms fall to his sides, and Greg puts one on his waist and lets the other fall. Nice little details.
- I refuse to believe that Kanji understands or could pronounce the words 'filial piety.'
- "I'm gonna renovate your ass."
- We have another teenager on the TV, this one a famous idol who's coming to Inaba. This girl has her own portrait and she's on the cover art of the game, so she probably won't get kidnapped, thrown into the TV world, be forced to face her inner emotions, and join the party.
- To their credit, the heroes discuss how she might be the next target, and Yosuke even logics out how the killer selects targets based on whether or not she's the next target.
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I interpreted the Dothraki as all returning to Essos.
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43. Into Free -Dangan-
Game: Dragons Dogma
Score: 48/100
Nominator: Pirateking2000

Things I Liked: Tha wind is brushin meeeee time is running freeee
Things I Disliked: Nothing, really

Halfway through the list now. Ive never played Dragons Dogma, its one of those series thats completely passed me by. Its a medieval fantasy game, right? So you can imagine my surprise at this . Maybe its because I literally just played Persona 4 a few minutes ago, but it feels like music from a low grade Persona knockoff to me. Thats not meant as an insult, it just feels totally inappropriate to a medieval fantasy, to the point where Im wondering if I totally misunderstood what the series is.

Oh, you wanted a critique of the actual song itself? Its okay. I like the long string at 2:35. This is just one more in a long series of okay songs.
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xp1337 posted...

Oh right, I know this trips a few people up so I'll make this a separate post rather than edit it in and risk you missing it.

Kanji's link doesn't start automatically. You need to talk to an NPC in the school who mentions bullying to set the flag that starts it. I think the girl is on 2F. Kanji should be on 1F in the not-classroom building.

Oho, thank you. I noticed him hanging around by himself, but I figured it would start on its own.
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- I like how Nanako just randomly stumbles on Chie and me in the park, like six year-olds just wander around town by themselves.
- I JUST got to level 2 expression and already Nanako is telling me to improve before talking to her again, dammit. She's one of two people I can talk to at night!
- Greg watches the Midnight Channel and sees that no one is on it because we rescued Kanji. Meanwhile, in the shopping district, the mysterious silhouette who's definitely not Adachi complains "Again..."
- Later, Kanji shows up and thanks us. We learn that the person who attacked Kanji came through a TV. After that, he joins the team. I feel like this is much later to have your fifth member join than P3 and P5. Kanji then reveals that he stole a list from a kid at school of the kidnap victims. Everyone realizes the killer is targeting people who have been on TV in the news the day before. Rarely do you get a video game where bullying saves the day, but here we are.
- Yosuke laments not being smarter. Don't worry, Yosuke. The only other Persona party members smarter than you are Makoto and Futaba, and Futaba does it by having zero social skills. I'll admit, I do like Kanji getting sunglasses, that's a clever way to add some visual diversity.
- When I realized Kanji's persona's element is electricity, I typed up a whole thing about how P3's and P5's protagonists' elements weren't doubled up on by other party members. Then I was smart enough to go back and check and discovered that not only was P3's doubled up on, it was tripled up on by Junpei and Koromaru. Though in my defense, I used Koromaru like twice the entire game.
- Went into the bathhouse to do some side quests, got an upright Death card, got teleported back to the entrance. And that's the UPRIGHT one. Stopped after that for now.
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xp1337 posted...

IIRC, dataminers found deleted dialogue that suggested there was originally a romance route for Yosuke.

That actually does surprise me.

LeonhartFour posted...

Well, in P4, it's more along the lines of "accepting the parts of yourself that you don't want others to see."

Which is part of what makes the Investigation Team such a great cast. They've all seen each other at their lowest points and they accept each other anyway.

I'm waiting to do a cast analysis until I have everyone.
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MrSmartGuy posted...

You have to keep in mind these are 14-16 year olds in 2008 or whenever. I dunno about you guys, but when I was a high schooler in the 2000's, Yosuke's form of misinformed homophobia was still pretty rampant everywhere. I wouldn't say it makes me like him more, but it definitely grounds the cast more in reality. How often would you come across one teenager who's perfectly accepting of everyone around them back in 2008, let alone a huge group of them?

Im pretty sure Yosuke is 16, so hes on the older end of that, but I accept that. Its still fun to rag on him for it.
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LeonhartFour posted...

For what it's worth, the first two dungeons are the hardest and longest, for whatever the reason. The game gets pretty manageable after this.

I didn't really mind the length, though the second dungeon did cost me all but three of my SP sodas.

- Defeated the boss at the top of Yukiko's Castle. I did really well, but Yukiko fell unconscious one turn before I beat him, so I guess she doesn't get that tasty experience. I think I just got lucky, though, he only used rampage once.
- Defeated Shadow Kanji by having Yosuke constantly unbuff him, which forced Nice Guy into constantly wasting turns rebuffing him, while everyone else very slowly burned him down. After he was dead, Shadow Kanji was less dangerous, though he still nearly wiped me twice, so I guess that tells you how skilled I actually am at these games.
- I feel like I should be fair and TRY to ignore the whole homophobia element here and just analyze the boss' design on its own, and actually it is appropriate. Giant buff guy surrounded by roses, I mean, you could do way worse.
- I just realized Chie's defensive stance is standing on one foot. You're lucky that shadow realm stuff justifies that kind of thing, Chie! In basically any other RPG I could make fun of that.
- Afterwards, Kanji still rejects his shadow because "there are too many witnesses." Kanji then claims that "it ain't a matter of guys or chicks, I'm just scared ****less of being rejected." I find that incredibly difficult to believe, Kanji, but it seems to satisfy his shadow. Can I just say, by the way, that having played 3 and 5, the big trauma other characters had to accept is like "my mom was killed and I could nothing" or "I was framed for assault and had my life destroyed" or "I hate how my life was planned out before I was born" and this game apparently equates being gay with that?
- I will say this, though: I really like the idea of your inner psyche taking the form of a doppelganger who openly talks about your hidden feelings inside of a warped location that relates to your repressed emotions. That's absolute genius, it's so much better than Tartarus in P3. I can obviously see how P5 refined that.
- I like how Dojima is clever enough to tell that I'm doing something I shouldn't be, but doesn't know what, and so just tells me to be careful... Yet can't tell that his partner is obviously evil.
- Dojima gives me 20000 yen for doing well on my test. Well, thanks for the 181.72 dollars, I guess!
- Heeyyyyyy, it's the guy from P3, the evil salesman, now hawking his wares on TV.
- I like how, by chance, I did Yosuke's rank 9 social link shortly after rescuing Kanji. In the space of a few days, Yosuke goes from horrified at the idea of being attractive to a gay to saying "you're special to me" to Greg. Way to go, Yosuke, I'm glad you could get over that flaw.
- Yosuke's social link: beated. I like how this resolves with a completely pointless fistfight, that might be the most realistic portrayal of a teenage boy friendship in any medium. It is a bit weird that Yosuke tells Saki that he's going to go on living when he knows she didn't even like him. Yosuke's persona turns into Susano-o, one of the like five Shinto gods I remember. He's the one who murders another goddess for disgusting him, right?
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So Shadow Kanji one-shot Greg with an AoE attack from near full health.

This will be fun.
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PerfectChaosZ posted...

Why in gods name would Drogon just leave

There's nothing left for him in Westeros anymore. That part is fine to me.
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Tried to fight the Yukiko's Castle boss again, died in one round to a rampage when I was at nearly full health. Welp.
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SythaWarrior posted...

Your not underleveled at all. That's about the normal-ish level to fight Shadow Kanji. You have a couple options if you want to get that done in 1 day (To have more days to do Persona 4 things)

There is a priestess persona called Sarasvati at level 17 who learns invigorate 2 at level 19 which restores 5SP a turn.
You can do laps doing the first couple floors of bathhouse then do the entire castle looking for SP regen items. if you have an encounter that wont die to just autoattacks then run from it. Eventually you'll get enough SP from Castle treasure chest items to beat him.
Or just power level more and brute force it but that might take quite a bit of time more so than the other two options.

Thanks.

theawesomestevr posted...

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The reward for scoring in the top ten was more points with my school friends? Lame.

Not sure if it's too late, but talking to Doujima will also give you a reward for doing well on exams.

I'll see if that works, thanks.
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Started: July 6, 2005