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voting for dmc 4.
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length wise, it's probably something like

Golden Sun (well only counting part 1) < Radiant Historia < Symphonia < Disgaea < everything else is probably a minimum of 50+ hours (though I haven't played octopath or xenoblade 2)

I'd say start with Radiant Historia.
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Super Mario Bros. beaten

also only have the great palace left to do in Zelda 2. Gonna grind up a bit for the last level upgrade before heading out there though.
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the GU trilogy has better/more fun gameplay than the IMOQ series, and while it has some repeated content for the sake of padding game length it's not quite as egregious as it was in IMOQ.

I wouldn't worry about the story and continuity from other entries in the series. most of it boils down to implying "this character is actually a character from ______ with a different avatar, even though their personalities are totally different!!!" if you read between the lines since it isn't really brought up directly and isn't terribly important for the most part. there's also some stuff with the whole epitaph of the twilight and the phases and such too lorewise, but I'm not really familiar with .hack stuff and it doesn't seem terribly important or used like it was in IMOQ.

.hack lore probably works better the less of it you bother with anyway. >_>
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Incredible Hulk takes the cake easily.
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Star Fox 2 beaten
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Got the first arming key.

I like how the objectives screen comments on how straightforward that was ha ha.

well, IDK if I'll be able to finish it even if I rush things since I assume I have half the main story left? dunno how many mandatory areas/missions that I'd have to go through and what I can skip.

ah well I'll just knock star fox 2 out quickly now at least.
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well I got the voice samples so I can get in deep storage

probably not going to be able to finish the game before the end of the month huh.
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eh it's been ages since I played it but I vaguely remember the sentiment of it cutting out most of the neat environmental interaction/puzzles using weapons/magic that I thought was neat with the original and made it stand out like cutting down trees and grass or freezing enemies to weigh down switches, and added in a ton of other mechanics/subsystems to try to build off of past games but in the end didn't really add anything meaningful to the gameplay or make it any more fun just more complex.

also, you basically had to babysit the other character the entire time without them actually capable of doing anything helpful fighting monsters/bosses, when in the original you didn't have to worry about them getting hit so they at least contributed a little to fighting bosses.

was kind of lukewarm about the plot rewrites/added dialog too.

While it's not terrible or unplayable or anything like that, it's still just mediocre and kind of bloated and a poor imitation of/substitute for multiple games in the series so I don't really feel like ever going back to it again while I've probably beaten the original at least four or five times.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

I'm still surprised they packaged this with Final Fantasy Adventure over Sword of Mana!

because sword of mana sucks.
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I'm still playing Prey. It's a good game but while it seems like in some ways it's a better attempt to translate the concepts of older games into a modern big budget successor than bioshock (well, not that I've gotten around to playing Thief or System Shock yet so I probably shouldn't say anything about it), it doesn't really have much of an identity of its own. There isn't really much of a story or characters or a hook to keep playing, it's kind of more of a loose collection of mechanics and objectives. some of which feel a bit there just because they're supposed to be there. Also can't help but think when getting to the lobby that it's all art deco styled there despite being in an alternate history that split off more in the 1950s space race simply because they was copying bioshock, and I can't help but feel the player character is some sort of weird half hearted amalgamation of the player character from bioshock 1 and the big daddy from 2.

Got up to the crew quarters section via the arboretum last night, probably play for a few more hours and maybe I'll be able to get to deep storage proper.

one thing that's really annoying in the past little bit is I'm trying to be semi stealthy but the game's making it kind of obnoxious. I try to go to fix the main lift, but kept dying in seconds because I zone in almost directly in the line of sight of the technopath so I can't actually sneak up on it and I try to shoot the fucking thing with the fucking stun gun in a direct fight but I keep getting fucking knocked out of charging before getting in range because I can't fucking sneak up on the fucking thing. (I just said fuck it maybe I'll go back to it later). Then when I got to crew quarters, right when I zone in I'm directly in the line of sight of a nightmare so I just stopped for the night since it's just shitty/unfair for a stealth game and probably just requires you to save/load or zone in/out until it doesn't spawn/despawns/spawns somewhere more reasonable.
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I don't think there is one.

It never got a full dvd release, and I think it got pulled from streaming services ages years ago.
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Haven't tried to play the psp version of VP yet, but from what I understand it is mostly the same except it's based on the japanese version of the original game (so it lacks some things like the shoulder buttons switching characters in the menu and item sorting as they were added/changed in the localization). and it has some new cgs.
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ok started beyond and played for a couple hours.

pffffffffffffffftttttttt.
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Star Ocean 2 PSP is more or less the same, other than the new art and voice acting. well, there's a new character, and some minor things like you have a 3 attack basic combo. it probably crashes less too. SO1 PSP is basically a remake using the SO2 psp engine and so is pretty different. there's also a couple new characters, one of which joins after a side quest that wasn't really finished I guess in the snes version (so instead of one character replacing the other, you essentially lose both characters so there's basically no gameplay reason to do it.) Note that they dummied out the harder difficulty levels in the US release for some baffling reason, and the default one is pretty trivial (though I think they are still in the game, if you download a save file).

ToP for PSX uses the ToD engine so it's a small improvement there, and has a new character. I thought the GBA version was basically the same, other than getting dumped upon mostly for having a mediocre localization and some graphics changes/downgrades. ToP is just really archaic to begin with (argh spell pausing).

oh wait, I guess there's also ToP Full Voice Edition and ToP X (in Nanakiri Dungeon X) for psp, but I cant comment on them and they don't have translations.

I think OB/TO for SNES and PSX are almost the same, except for load times and such obviously. and at least OB has mid battle saves in the psx version, dunno about TO. The PSP TO is apparently massively different in terms of mechanics but I'm not familiar with it.
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soul blazer is pretty simple, but has a fairly satisfying gameplay loop. Illusion of Gaia has the best story and gameplay, but the story is also pretty bizarre in some aspects and the cutscenes are both pretty long winded and have slow text occasionally having lengthy semi interactive story stretches after bosses but before you can save again. Terranigma tries to balance everything out and has a neat premise, but eh I kind of thought that it totally fell apart by the end.

as already stated most of the love for lufia is for the second game, the first and third are more standard/unremarkable. ruins of lore tries to go back to the style of older games after Legend Returns was more of a randomly generated dungeon crawler... but screws it up because the class design/game balance is straight garbage and generally comes off as cheap/ugly. Curse of the Sinistrals is a remake of lufia 2, with a few changes that upset people because ~nostalgia~ but aren't really important other than turning it from a turn based game to a b tier ish ds action rpg. nothing too bad or irritating that I remember other than the mine cart bit but nothing great either.

breath of fire 5 is amazing, but definitely divisive since it's an unconventional scifi survival horror influenced game. the rest of the series is pretty standard other than having a lot of anthropomorphic races and the ability to turn into a dragon. 1 isn't bad but pretty boring. 2 is better, other than having a crappy dragon system and fusions that wear off in the middle of dungeons. 3 kind of suffers from the rpg plot equivalent of Hunter X Hunter pacing (it has a bad tendency of forgetting the characters' actual goals and motivation and such to just sort of meander around aimlessly with weird one off diversions that don't really further the plot like literally learning how to make sushi that end up dragging on for hours of gameplay time until the writers realize that they ran out of time to properly develop things and just sort of unceremoniously dump a bunch of stuff basically right before the final boss). 4 has an interesting main villain and some really memorable moments/high highs but also has a mostly bleh cast and sort of coasts along going through the motions most of the game.

Shining force is basically Fire Emblem without a lot of what makes FE interesting to its fans. It's not bad, but isn't really remarkable gameplay wise either other than being able to walk around a bit and do stuff between battles.
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The localization of the ps1 version of persona 1 is kind of notorious and cut the alternate path through the game (the snow queen quest). The psp version has a translation closer to the original, as well as new cutscenes and music more in the vein of the nu persona games (so this aspect can be hit or miss, particularly since the new battle music is a pretty short loop). it also cuts the first person town map for one like most of the other smt games, and moves faster/has shorter loading times so it's possibly more palatable in that regard.

note that there are 2 halves of persona 2 so the two games you're talking about are separate games. Innocent sin is part 1, and eternal punishment is part 2. Atlus only brought out ep originally since it's the conclusion, and only brought out Innocent sin PSP since it was too late in the life for eternal punishment to be marketable.
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In the Psychotronics area in Prey.
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Colegreen_c12 posted...

How's Chaos;Child if anyones played it

I think it's the best science game, but I wouldn't say that it has the mass appeal that Steins Gate has due to the content and themes. Also think a lot of people wouldn't necessarily like or appreciate certain aspects of the direction it goes in/the endings.

Like, SG is to Higurashi as CC is to Umineko if that makes sense? Maybe not to that extreme, but the general idea is kind of similar so I wouldn't necessarily recommend it casually.
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Started up Prey.

Was trying to figure out a way to get over to the suit upgrade in the machine shop without alerting the repair bots, but then the game crashed during loading whoops.
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Haven't started anything yet.

Since the Genesis mini comes out next month, I think I'll Nominate Castle of Illusions and Castlevania Bloodlines
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none really, but I voted for dkr just to see if you'd be able to beat it.

also which bionic commando are you talking about?
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Full Throttle beaten

yeah it had a lot more irritating bits to play through than the other lucasarts games that I've played, even though it doesn't have anything super illogical it can be a bit annoying to actually go through certain things even if you roughly know what to do.

aesthetic was kind of nice, although it didn't have a lot of humor and the mc's stoic aloofness is kind of annoying

probably rank them something like

dott > mi1 > s&m > gf > ft

been wanting to play prey for a while. star fox 2 is bad, but I'll replay it I guess. might as well try beyond and see how much I'll suffer through.
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I've done the daily challenge in Rayman almost every day for almost two years now.

Haven't even beaten the game yet, just been doing the daily challenges for most of the time I've owned it. At 5000+ points so I'll soon be at the 6000 points for the level 11 trophy, well I might actually have enough to stop now since I don't have any diamond trophies from the teensies and haven't played any of the last world/origin level paintings but I'm being overly cautious about collecting as many points as I can to be sure. Luckily I managed to get 2 diamond trophies from glitched challenges so I don't have to worry about that trophy either.

Though tbh, I enjoy doing challenges more than playing the main game >_>. I dunno if I'll even try to get the platinum after all the work I've put into the daily challenge.

I'd say the worst was spending several days-weeks grinding stars in tipping stars before miiverse shut down. Like, I still didn't get enough to buy everything and I don't really feel like actually playing the main game.
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Ok, finally started Full Throttle. Though maybe I should have cleared off my vita memory card so I could listen to it with headphones since it's kind of hard to hear some of the dialog and I don't think there's subtitles...?

in the cave right now, 49% completion.
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Record of Lodoss War?
Bangai-O?

I haven't tried to buy a copy of either yet though.
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Index New Testament beaten.

Index novel series 3 starting next year. So I guess there will be another 20+ novels left to go?
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went back and unlocked Maria and the OG Rondo of Blood in Dracula X Chronicles.

Also went through and beat the OG Rondo of Blood quickly today. Maybe I'm just more used to the levels and such now but I'm surprised that it seems a lot easier to me than the remake. (I got up to Death before getting a game over, but struggled a lot more in the remake.) I don't know exactly but while it kind of feels less random it also feels a lot slower paced and maybe some things got nerfed or you have to put in more hits to kill certain things or w/e.

I dunno if I'll try to get the good ending in DXC, since I think I like the original better and I'll need to start full throttle eventually.
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Rondo of Blood beaten

Nominate: Seiken Densetsu 3/Trials of Mana, Sonic Mania, Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
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Homer Simpson and Guy Incognito (The Simpsons)
Homer Simpson and Krusty the Clown (The Simpsons)
Bart and Lisa/Lester and Eliza (The Simpsons)
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only season 1 of Big O is on Hidive iirc.
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eh most people probably wouldn't care at all about the Unlimited, or forgot about it after it aired.

and that was what I was getting at anyway, that the problem is that it kind of feels like it doesn't really "get" the story and characters and themes and lazilly rehashes past plotlines with pointless OC donutsteals and everything just being angry chuuni all the time to draw in new fans who eat up the whole chuuni aesthetic but probably won't stick around or bother with the rest of the series so it's just kind of a waste.

(it's still amuses me that the fanbase as a whole apparently got taken over from the inside by fujioshi though)

I've read like 3 or 4 volumes of the Accelerator manga apparently, and it feels like totally pointless rehash that hasn't really done anything significant yet or doesn't really go anywhere yet or add anything significant to the series like railgun frequently does. and I can't help but think the Accelerator OC donutsteals are more entertaining in spinoffs other than the one they actually debuted in.

now I'd still probably give the Accelerator anime a chance, since maybe it would work better animated, and I've heard someone speculate that the plot kind of mirrors/parallels/foreshadows what happens super late in the main series (as in, basically what happened at the end of NT)... but IDK something kind of similar happened earlier in Railgun so it still seems kind of rehashy...?
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People getting hyped up over the Accelerator spinoff kinda baffles me, since honestly it just makes me think of the Unlimited and how crappy that was, and I just wish they made an anime of the spinoff where Accelerator was an idol instead.
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Well, I've downloaded Full Throttle to my PS4, but I'm kind of waiting to maybe try clearing some space off my Vita memory card because I'd rather play it on handheld (in spite of my pleasant experience with Broken Game ha ha ha).

Been playing Dracula X Chronicles today though. On stage 7 in Rondo of Blood so I'm almost done (although with the bad ending since I haven't saved anyone. thought I had unlocked the original Rondo, but apparently I only unlocked SotN)
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Quick Time/Fold Time (Romancing SaGa 2)
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I haven't played it but it has a 35 score on metacritic. >_>

well, I doubt it's Spectral Force Genesis bad, but it seems like it's generally criticized for graphics/presentation/changing the art style, being too easy, and having bad AI I guess.

probably not a whole lot of reason to play it for a "real" game in the series with this coming out
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I'm more interested in Robotics Notes Dash, since the basic plot synopsis is something to the effect of Daru showing up due to some problem related to Chaos Child, but it makes sense to bring the original out first. And it's probably just going to be like Steins Gate 0 in terms of scope and be mostly fan disc ish and mainly have some scenes of the characters in seasonal holiday events with some other plot elements tacked on to move everything along.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

None of these were ever localized?

The first one was localized as Warsong for the Genesis.

Also the recent (awful) 3ds game.
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Maniac64 posted...

So my wife has just started getting into anime and I'm not sure what I should have her try.

She started with One Piece cause it was my favorite and she was curious. She absolutely loves it and is caught up.

Then she tried Fruits Basket and finds it hilarious and is really enjoying that.

We are halfway through FMA:B and she likes it but definitely not as much as the other two.

Comedy/silliness seems to be a big plus for her. Any recommendations for stuff on crunchyroll or Netflix for her to try?

Shoujo/Jousei stuff:
Ouran High School Host Club
Princess Jellyfish
Kimi ni Todoke
Chihayafuru
Honey and Clover (though it gets more dramatic/melodramatic as it goes on)
Nodame Cantabile
Survival Games Club
My Love Story (well, I've heard positive things about it, haven't watched it yet though)

other comedy stuff:
Azumanga Daioh
School Rumble
Barakamon
Soredemo Machi wa Mawatteiru/And Yet the Town Moves
Hidamari Sketch
Konosuba
Monthly Shoujo Nozaki-kun
Non Non Biyori
Himoto Umaru-chan
Tonari no Seki
Kawai Complex Guide to Manors and Hostel Behavior

might require a bit higher of a hikkineet/otaku power level to resonate with:
Watamote
Welcome to the NHK

can't really say if any of them are on netflix since I don't suscribe, but I think most of them would be on crunchy/hidive/funimation. main exception is probably Nodame Cantabile, since I only remember seeing it on Crackle a few years ago.
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tagging.
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Beat Adventures of Lolo
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Battle of South Moundtop (SaGa Frontier 2)
Ragnarok (Super Robot Wars 3)
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Full throttle was free on gog a while back, iirc.
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Random Shot (Lufia: Ruins of Lore)

like it says, the spell/skill does a random amount of damage (like 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256 iirc)... which ignores enemy defense and isn't based on character stats/equipment.

since despite costing only a pittance of mp, it does the same or more damage on average than a regular attack and a lot more damage than end game spells/skills that cost an absurd amount of mp despite doing such low amounts of damage.
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Nominate: Sonic Mania, Rayman Legends, Full Throttle
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Moist von Lipwig (Discworld)
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Earthbound beaten

lol, I got the "nagging you for playing too long" call from Ness' dad right at the start of the stinger.
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Okay, in the home stretch now.

will try to wrap everything up tonight.
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I meant that committee of zero patch or w/e for the steam release that translates a lot of stuff that pqube didn't translate in the ps4/vita version, like the cgs or the lines Serika says after various endings that don't have text accompanying them.
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probably too late now but just a warning: there's a map trigger segment in Kazuki's route (actually just before the point that you're probably at now IIRC) that isn't translated and doesn't give any indication that you've failed it for a while after the point you're probably at now.

it's presumably not a problem in the pc version if you get the fan patch, and you might be able to figure it out on your own since you've translated stuff before but it's still worth pointing out.
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