Lurker > COVxy

Have till April-ish doe.
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Rika_Furude posted...

Rebel_Patriot posted...

you can also get a census of scientists to say the earth is flat.

no you can't

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CyricZ posted...

But what if it's all a hoax and we create a better world for no reason?

Too many dollarydoo's at risk. Why won't somebody think of the arbitrary tokens!?
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Coffeebeanz posted...

COVxy posted...

EbonTitanium posted...

Innocent til proven guilty.

In everyday life, do you assume certain things because of a lack of evidence for the alternative? Almost certainly not. People judge things on a continuum of evidence, not this thresholded nonsense from the court system. Why are people so insistent on using court based logic when we're not talking about a court case here?

Because we live in a world where justice is delivered through social media in ways that didn't exist before.

That doesn't really follow and isn't really true. Scandals have always pushed people off pedestals, it's just that they are much more visible now because of the way information flows.
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EbonTitanium posted...

Innocent til proven guilty.

In everyday life, do you assume certain things because of a lack of evidence for the alternative? Almost certainly not. People judge things on a continuum of evidence, not this thresholded nonsense from the court system. Why are people so insistent on using court based logic when we're not talking about a court case here?
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Anteaterking posted...

Coffeebeanz has posted 2+ topics a day on average about something that she already had to post an "apology" topic about last week.

Lol.
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EbonTitanium posted...

This Isn't a good point.

Because you think people don't say it or because you don't think that it being a common sentiment is important?
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I feel like we only have to look at the way society reacted to the Aziz Ansari incident to determine that the US, at the very least, has a lot of trouble talking about sexual behavior in any honest way.
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King_Hellebuyck posted...

Congrats dude!

Thanks!

iron jojo posted...

Do what now

Yeah, there's some amount of evidence for successive convergence of information in the anatomy, so the idea is that a large proportion of information that gets widdled down to the optimal action based on reward and whatnot.

It's an interesting idea.
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It definitely feels validating.
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alt_no_1_loves posted...

Wooooo!

Congrats. Publishing papers is the god damn worst. Done it once, really have no desire to do it again, but it is nice to see your name there after all the hard work.

Thanks! Yeah, tbh, analysis is easy, writing is the hard part.

spudger posted...

i heard in the scientific community that publishing is the best way to stay hired, but it also takes away from other research.

Yeah, but reframing it, there's no reason to do research if you aren't publishing it. It's how the research is shared with other researchers, and how the fields move forward.
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spudger posted...

congrats. are you a neurologist?

Thanks. Nope, not quite, I'm a cognitive neuroscientist in training (in my last year of PhD).
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This is actually the latest paper I started, yet the first to be published.
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Manocheese posted...

Cool. What's it about?

Describing and testing the functional organization of a subcortical set of structures called the striatum in the human and macaque brain. Essentially, the whole cerebral cortex routes its information through these structures, so some think that these structures are involved in compressing information into a single motor output.
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Woo! My first first-author pub as been accepted.
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The NYTimes article tc is referring to got completely ignored because of the focus on the Kavanaugh thing.
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ModLogic posted...

ClockworkHare posted...

VectorChaos posted...

ClockworkHare posted...

Lmfao

how ungrateful. there are people offended on his behalf, how dare he not be offended too.

Yes, dude who was hyped for her visit weeks in advance has no issues with her visit. Shocking.
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This is stupid, and 99% of people will agree lol.
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Coffeebeanz posted...

Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth. - Marcus Aurelius

Rofl.

This was a post in this topic.
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silentwing26x posted...

how awfully suspicious

I don't even get this point. The whole reason she came forward was because he was being nominated to be the most grand judge of morality in the country.

Seems completely reasonable for her to put her story forth to let the full view of Kavanaugh enter public eye. Seems like if I knew someone was an immoral asshole, I wouldn't want them to be the grand judge of morality. It's not like the case is very strong, legally. Or even possible. So why would you ever expect her to pursue it?
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KingCrabCake posted...

COVxy posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Also idk if you know this but Kavanaugh also has a pretty stable career and is has a solid education rumor has it

I'm not claiming Kavanaugh is crazy...

No you're claiming if you have a good job and education you can't be crazy

I'm claiming that there's usually evidence in life instability. It seems like just assuming someone is crazy because your preferable interpretation of the situation doesn't work any other way is...well, crazy.
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KingCrabCake posted...

And theres incentives here... money/holding a supreme court seat hostage for a pick of ur party etc

Dr. Ford has a personal stake in this? How-so?

Or do you mean, presumably she's a liberal and that's her incentive? Cuz that's just pretty irrational.
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KingCrabCake posted...

Also idk if you know this but Kavanaugh also has a pretty stable career and is has a solid education rumor has it

I'm not claiming Kavanaugh is crazy...
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Coffeebeanz posted...

COVxy posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

COVxy posted...

By saying "people do crazy shit all the time", you are admitting that it is quite outside the bounds of normal behavior. You are admitting that the incentives are against her coming up to lie.

Or I'm calling her crazy...

Exactly, so you are saying that this woman, with a doctorate and a highly stable career, is more likely just a nutto. Because it's not rational any other way. And this is why it's reasonable to assume him innocent and that she is just a liar?

And you think this is reasonable?

This isn't how the law works.

Sherita Dixon-Cole had a high-paying job and a good future before she falsely accused an officer of rape.

Fortunately that officer had a body cam and recorded the whole thing.

Who was presumably trying to get out of a drunk driving charge?

Seems the incentives here are pretty clear.
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KingCrabCake posted...

COVxy posted...

By saying "people do crazy shit all the time", you are admitting that it is quite outside the bounds of normal behavior. You are admitting that the incentives are against her coming up to lie.

Or I'm calling her crazy...

Exactly, so you are saying that this woman, with a doctorate and a highly stable career, is more likely just a nutto. Because it's not rational any other way. And this is why it's reasonable to assume him innocent and that she is just a liar?

And you think this is reasonable?
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KingCrabCake posted...

COVxy posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

COVxy posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

I'm not saying she did this for money but dont say theres no incentive for her to lie...theres several incentives

Let me ask you. Let's say it was a democratic nominee. You seem like a political guy. Would you publicly defame yourself in order to try to prevent the nomination?

I usually vote democratic.

I also wouldnt say I'm afraid of flying but yet I fly around the world all year round. So ya

You nicely sidestepped the introspection that it is ridiculous to assume someone would put themselves up publicly and lie, quite an anti-social lie, for a political event that's really quite distant from themselves.

Women have done it before ....

Duke lacrosse team for instance...

Also people do crazy shit all the time. Especially if money is involved. (Again not saying for a fact she did this for money)

By saying "people do crazy shit all the time", you are admitting that it is quite outside the bounds of normal behavior. You are admitting that the incentives are against her coming up to lie.
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KingCrabCake posted...

COVxy posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

I'm not saying she did this for money but dont say theres no incentive for her to lie...theres several incentives

Let me ask you. Let's say it was a democratic nominee. You seem like a political guy. Would you publicly defame yourself in order to try to prevent the nomination?

I usually vote democratic.

I also wouldnt say I'm afraid of flying but yet I fly around the world all year round. So ya

You nicely sidestepped the introspection that it is ridiculous to assume someone would put themselves up publicly and lie, quite an anti-social lie, for a political event that's really quite distant from themselves.
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KingCrabCake posted...

I'm not saying she did this for money but dont say theres no incentive for her to lie...theres several incentives

Let me ask you. Let's say it was a democratic nominee. You seem like a political guy. Would you publicly defame yourself in order to try to prevent the nomination?
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Polycosm posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

3 quarters of a million dollars is a pretty big incentive to lie

Can you clarify your thesis, here? You're saying that Ford started planting the seeds for this big lie 6 years ago in conversations with her therapist, banking on the chance that someday Kavanaugh might be nominated for the Supreme Court and that random strangers would set up a crowdfund in her name? That's your theory?

She's a psychologist, obviously she's Light Yagami on crack.
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KingCrabCake posted...

Theres no evidence tho that's the problem. I mean it's also ludicrous to declare a man an innocent man a rapist but hey...who am I to point that out

More like saying "after hearing the testimony of each party, Ford seemed to be more truthful and has all the incentives against lying, and Kavanaugh seemed to be lying his ass off and had all the incentives to lie, so I believe it's more likely the case that the claims are truthful than they are not."

Evidence isn't black and white, and we don't need to discuss it as so.
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KingCrabCake posted...

COVxy posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Also had some book confessing or like kidna confessing sorta

And yet innocent in the eyes of the court.

Interesting how applying court rules to everyday life makes things a bit weird.

It's just silly to compare what OJ did or didn't do..to Kavanaugh.

Like there was evidence and hhindsight that allows you to form somewhat of an opinion without being ignorant

And we have the evidence of the testimony here. We don't have to assume innocence, because that's a ludicrous standard for everyday, or pretty much anything outside of court, reasoning.
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KingCrabCake posted...

Also had some book confessing or like kidna confessing sorta

And yet innocent in the eyes of the court.

Interesting how applying court rules to everyday life makes things a bit weird.
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TheKentster posted...

Irregardless posted...

Why?

Do you still regard or assume OJ Simpson is a murderer or Michael Jackson was a child molester?

OJ Simpson was convicted dude

Alt history.
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This is a stupid topic lol
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Yeah, this'll convince them that you're earnest!
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lincoln002 posted...

I don't think it's been like 40 years yet, that's why. Wait til these women are bored as hell, their looks have faded and have a stable boring routine and they'll look for ways to bother people.

Welp. No subtlety there...
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Burgess posted...

What he did wasn't assault. He asked if he could jerk off in front of them they said okay and then he did.

This. I mean, ethically it's a bit gross since they viewed him as an authority figure. But even then, it's easy to see why he wouldn't have thought of that in the time, as it's not like there's actually any formal hierarchy in that business.
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NeverOffended posted...

I don't know if I believe it either but I've seen you say a lot of dumb and dismissive shit here, this might be one of those broken clock cases

I'm dismissive of things not grounded in empiricism.
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This is one of the stupidest and harmful conspiracy theories regarding mass shootings.
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MrPeppers posted...

joestarrr posted...

As someone who wants to end up in academia and research, this is pretty awful.

Granted, medical research should exclude some of the bull crap, but it doesnt always.

Yeah, medical research outside of psychology tends to be easier to analyze than social sciences.

idk why you include the exception there.

But to the main point, this type of crap, yes, kinda. But also kinda not. With p-hacking, harking, and all other QRP extremely prevalent, there's a lot of crap that gets published that is literally just noise.
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Antifar posted...

https://twitter.com/dwschieber/status/1047497301021798400

I mean, it's kinda sad on one hand, but on the other it actually is a bit of a tell if clearly hoax papers are mistaken for meaningful theory. Perhaps it's time to disentangle the field from it's majority political ideology. You can do a lot of cool things in the realm of sociology, but the cool things really circle around data and simulation. Everything else, especially like this, is just really whacked political philosophy.
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The point was that blacklisted journals often accept manuscripts with little to no peer review with an expedited process.
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Anteaterking posted...

If you've ever published an academic paper, you know that there are lots of scam journals that are pay for play that have names that sound very authentic.

I believe this hoax only submitted to reputable journals which is why only 7 were accepted rather than all 20 lol. Could be wrong on that, though.
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P4wn4g3 posted...

Space_Man posted...

Hmmm

Time to get published

The process is still a hassle. And you have to do legitimate research and citing, not to mention follow the standard the journal adheres to. But yeah other than that I've seen amazingly garbage papers in peer reviewed journals while doing my own research.

Academic publishing, at least in the sciences, takes a lot longer than most people think.
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C_Pain posted...

Proof that academia has been taken over by regressive left

Not really, just that a very particular field is essentially political philosophy, or really poorly constructed political philosophy.
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Why did you become a teacher if you seemingly don't get anything out of it?
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MFBKBass5 posted...

COVxy posted...

This is why you try your best to find a job you enjoy, because your job encompasses a large proportion of your life.

I used to enjoy my job. But I call BS. There should be way more to life than just your job. I dont think your purpose in life is to go and work all day every day.

I mean, most jobs have weekends off.
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This is why you try your best to find a job you enjoy, because your job encompasses a large proportion of your life.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

People keep saying polygraphs are easily beaten. Dunno if we should be worried that policemen have to take polygraphs before going into the academy.

Why do you think skin conductance and heart rate can reliably detect lying, a complex psychological event of knowingly providing fake information? The concept is ludicrous on the outset.
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