Lurker > foolm0r0n

He's not gonna 100% Odyssey either

Just don't try to 100% either of those games, that's not what they are made for
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_foolmo_
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Clearly everyone agrees
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_foolmo_
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Also you can't clone Undertale. No one can. Not even the most professional game devs.
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_foolmo_
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Ok first make a simple thing where you you can walk around with a top down view and talk to people

Then make another simple thing where you just have dialogue trees

Then make another thing that has really basic 2d fighting

If you can do all those THEN you can begin to imagine making a super game that mashes all 3 of them up

Your goal is completely infeasible currently, but each little part is totally doable from 0 experience. That's the magic of scoping and it's probably the most important thing in game (and other) dev.

So, pick one of those simple places to start, and just sit down and work on it for hours and hours. Don't stop until it's legitimately playable. Like it doesn't have to be "done", but you should be able to post it here and we can enjoy it from start to finish. That's a big deal. Then repeat over and over until you have your dream game.

It doesn't really matter what engine you use, but some are more specialized than others. If you want dialogue branches, Twine and Renpy are good for that, but they have little camera and graphics support. However, you're starting with the absolute simplest prototypes of your mechanics first, so they might be perfect options. Eventually you will probably want to use something like Unity, but that's down the line. For steps 1 and 2 and 10, start with the simplest thing that gets you something playable. Anything you pick is gonna require a ton of work anyways.
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_foolmo_
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yeah I played yesterday and wtf are all these icons and colors

I've never been so stressed out at the post-game screen... you have to click like 12 things in 20 seconds
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_foolmo_
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is it 2007 again
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Apparently it is, sneezing on innocent Americans
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SantaRPidgey posted...

it looks like the developers put 0 love and 0 effort into it

did you miss the venusaur hopping animation
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_foolmo_
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Rally Bayo
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Praise Geraldo

He has intercourse with women and has a beard!
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_foolmo_
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Everything in this post is unmarked spoilers for the last episode.

I loved almost everything in this series, especially towards the end, but man that ending was dumb as hell. The final parts were the worst but even the montage of all the siblings breaking out of their dreams was lame as hell. The new Sabrina did a better take on that, and it wasn't even in the finale. But the happy endings and distortion of the original book's quotes were the most egregious. So I'm trying to think of reason the writers actually thought this was good, and I think this solution is kind of a stretch but it also fits really well with the themes and especially Steve's scene in the beginning.

Basically, they're all 100% dead, no question about it. The instant they decided to go back to the house, they were dead. This applies to Olivia, Nell, Luke, Hugh, and all the others. Everything after that is just a trick from the house. We see Steven's fake happy ending at the beginning, and it's HIS happy ending. But to the viewers, it's pretty obviously bullshit, and becomes even moreso as it goes on. There's really no reason for the viewer to believe it was real. These dreams work on the Crains, but they don't work on us, do they? So that's the goal of the final episode - to give the viewer their happy ending and make them believe without a doubt it's the reality. Would we really have accepted this show to end with the whole family dead in the house? Or did we kinda really want to see Luke become sober and Shirley/Steven save their marriage and Theo get laid etc? Or one level of meta deeper - don't we prefer to be disappointed in a thing, rather than loving it so much that we feel that weird lingering pain after finishing it?

What do you guys think? Is this giving too much credit to the writers? It feel cheap because it's a very circular logic. But I do like how it makes the viewer look a level deeper than just what was shown on screen. That was always a big theme of the show and the finale should emphasize it.
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_foolmo_
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BOTW because you will get bored/disappointed at a certain point and you will feel much better about quitting if you have another game to play which is more fun

That said, Odyssey doesn't have much to it either, so you'll need a remedy for that as well

And that remedy is A Hat in Time
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_foolmo_
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Played her a bit, don't think I like her. Her weapons are each individually great, but they are so slow and she has so little mobility that they don't really click together instantly. I guess she makes sense as an alt McCree, but I don't really get her role beyond that.
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_foolmo_
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Wasn't on the front page at all, all I got was superdrags wtf
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GANON1025 posted...

I can't believe the hottest guy and hottest girl in the tournament have to fight like this.

Geralt is.... a guy?
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Leafeon13N posted...

Their inability to queue in line is still probably the worst though.

Says the guy who left his prime spot open for anyone to take
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_foolmo_
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But vote Bayonetta
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KommunistKoala posted...

azuarc posted...

They added an FF12 character to Overwatch?

No the league of legends character

No the pokemon main character
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_foolmo_
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Lopen posted...

If you wanna say that was bs and just say "nope, boobs" that's fine

That's what HE is saying. That it's just boobs, which are objectively attractive, big deal.

But he loves these fictional women. The real women, I can see him believing they are just like cars / objects / a pair of tits with legs. But the fictional ones are true love/lust. That's why a big part of his argument is that you can't lust after a fictional character cuz there's no chance you will act on it (oblivious that the lust itself is the sinful act).
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_foolmo_
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Lots of guilty pleasures. Some are more guilty than others, like Riverdale. But my fav to come back to is prob One Punch man.
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_foolmo_
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Vlado posted...

For example? What is the "fake science" I'm using?

Women don't like games or whatever because ____
Black people are dumber because ____
Minorities are incompatible with white people because ____

etc

You talk about differences in ethnicity ONLY in service of nationalism even though they aren't related at all. It's not the ethnicity and biology that you care about, it's the legal borders that define a country. And you use this faux-biology to justify things like European ethnics deserving America, even though they are clearly invaders who have no ethnic history here.

Vlado posted...

The possibility that you are right about these is certainly something that is on my mind.

It's not. You forget it instantly. You go back to saying that if Trump fails, the US is doomed. You are 100% bought in to Trump saviordom and you can't convince yourself otherwise. It has even turned your nationalism very US-centric and pro-Republican, despite your resistance. Like seriously, you're a fucking Republican. Think about that.

I imagine you really want to believe Trump might not be the golden solution to the world. But you can't. The propaganda is too strong in your brain. It just takes time for people like you. In a few years you will think of this just like Milo, or Nintendo.

Vlado posted...

See... That's a big mistake on Bannon's part

What mistake? He won everything. He got the president elected, he STILL controls the majority of the nationalist movement (including yourself), AND now he's out of the spotlight. Milo was discarded and discredited well after his use was up, when GG was converted to nationalism, just according to plan. There's a reason he used an unhinged guy who hated video games to lead GG. It made everything so easy.

Now he's just working with Breitbart. You don't read that do you?

Vlado posted...

How am I "doing the exact same thing"?

See above. You've fallen into a culture war and are just fighting for your team with no direction. You follow the leader and the mob. In a few years you will downplay your mistakes today as you have "matured and developed" into the next culture war.
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Vlado posted...

To be blessed with so much and achieve so little with it is the opposite of success

Almost like what you perceive is our strength is the definitive source of our weakness
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Lopen hasn't been attracted to a human since 1998
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MariaTaylor posted...

tom was the first person to bring up the bible

I can see the misunderstanding. Basically when Vlado talks about morality and degeneracy, he's talking about his Christianity. The obliteration of context is in not knowing who Vlado is and what he means by degeneracy (and to a different extent, family).

But Tom WAS the first to bring up the Bible so it's not as big of a mistake as I thought.
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_foolmo_
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Steiner consults with me specifically. Didn't want you to find out this way....
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MariaTaylor posted...

he literally just cited the bible as evidence to try and win an argument.

Yes.... about Christianity

What other document would you cite?

This is exactly what obliterating context is all about
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_foolmo_
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MariaTaylor posted...

I'm not offended by vlado's stupidity, no, because I'd never take anything he said seriously.

I am offended by tom's stupidity in this topic.

Fair but then don't make stupid posts like that or else you'll have to be offended at yourself
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_foolmo_
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MariaTaylor posted...

offended at the concept of a babe brawl

How did you get that?

No one is being negative against babe brawl at all (except about banning trans women) but it's really fucking stupid that Vlado pretends there's no lust involved.

Imagine yoblazer saying there was no lust in BAIG. Actually, based on Vlado's arguments, there could be massive lust in BAIG and it would be okay because they are fictional. Just like the babe brawl women apparently.

If you're not offended by that stupidity then good on ya I guess.
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_foolmo_
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Aren't we banning people from the discord now because of trolls? Why is this stickied?
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Vlado posted...

Besides, it objectifies women. :

Vlado posted...

women might as well be anime characters because we'll never meet them anyway

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_foolmo_
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Vlado bans trans women from babe brawl so that should say enough
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_foolmo_
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Imagine running babe brawl and believing that God doesn't know you want to fuck all those (white) women. Not to mention far more blatantly lusting after both a video game character and a very tall internet Asian woman.

How stupid do you think the omniscient Lord is exactly?

Imagine Vlado's ghost arguing with the angels like this at the gates of hell. B-b-but I teach at Christian school and hate gay cartoons! I can't be a sinner!
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Paratroopa1 posted...

I mean, I don't think they intended to use Don't Stop Me Now but I do think leaving music out of the ad might have been a brilliant and intentional marketing choice possibly

I think it's very likely they manufactured this meme in exactly that way based on how quickly it spread. If there's similar memes in other languages then it's for sure confirmed.
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_foolmo_
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im genius
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_foolmo_
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Asriel was the bad guy in Undertale so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary
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_foolmo_
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To be clear, if the Democrat candidate in 2020 started openly saying the n word and bragging about abusing women, they would absolutely destroy Trump. The proof was that Trump was exactly that Democrat candidate.
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Unbridled9 posted...

But, more to the point, the reason why the Republican party doesn't have to 'flush out corruption' is because... that's kind of already what we're doing.

Yes, that's exactly what I said

All it took was the cronies to start being proud of their racism and sexism for you to believe you're actually cleaning the swamp

Here's a tip: if you don't want cronyism, don't vote for cronies
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_foolmo_
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Yeah Deltarune literally came out completely in secret in 1 day

The previous day, there was 0 indication that any more Undertale content would ever come out, and the next, we had a full 3 hour game to play

It was pretty mind shattering
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_foolmo_
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Can't imagine finishing Undertale and then loading up Deltarune the next day
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_foolmo_
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Can I get
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Unbridled9 posted...

To be honest, I am of the belief that the Democratic Party is beyond redemption and the dems would be better served scuttling it and forming a new party to properly reflect their beliefs as opposed to trying to weed out all the corruption and problems that have seeped in.

Why? All republicans had to do to make everyone forget about the corruption was start saying the n word and assaulting women
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SuperNiceDog posted...

same... our brackets are so doomed

It was rhetorical, I know that since I made enough risky big point picks later on that I will stay alive for a while even though my chances are tiny
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_foolmo_
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No plush checkers piece

He's not as smart as you think
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The Swapper is the best puzzle game in the list

Talos Principle is nothing like Portal though
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_foolmo_
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He is definitely an asshole and gets a pass for most of it because he's an idiot
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_foolmo_
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Also there is no genocide. Only neutral and pacifist (which is almost the same as neutral).
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HaRRicH posted...

Edmund McMillen

HaRRicH posted...

newly-recognized developer of the past ten years

bruh you missed out on his best stuff
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_foolmo_
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Tales of Symphonia
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_foolmo_
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How am I still alive
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_foolmo_
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Didn't we have this topic already?

Didn't we determine raptor is just homophobic yet doesn't realize KOS-MOS is LES-BOS
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_foolmo_
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