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PiOverlord posted...

A communist system could allow us a full, satisfying life, not only 10 years of mediocre quasi-freedom.

"Build a man a fire, warm him for a night. Set a man on fire, warm him for the rest of his life"
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CountDog posted...

I can tell you a lot of the homeless people here in Seattle are lazy, and don't care about finding work.

Plenty of them are screwed

And the others are just drug addicts.

The last couple of years, the finances have been towards the new rail. And its going to continue that way for some time.

Seattle isn't going to really have good news for a long while I imagine, once the growth spurt finally stops. Maybe.

Yea, about their new rail system....
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/seattles-new-streetcars-may-be-too-big-to-fit-tracks-maintenance-barn/
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

s0nicfan posted...

So then why is their homeless population so bad?
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/homeless/king-county-homeless-population-third-largest-in-u-s/

well the city is growing rather rapidly
tepid response from the city itself
the massive heroin problem (which is plaguing every state not just WA)
gentrification and rising housing costs
no infrastructure set to prevent or mitigate homelessness
the tech industry has pushed a ton of people out and caused prices to rise in certain areas to a whole new level

so a few Seattle-specific problems but otherwise nothing that doesn't cause homelessness elsewhere

but it DOES seem unique to the west coast, at least in terms of severity:

King County also ranks third in the number of unsheltered homeless people living in vehicles, tents and on local streets. The 5,485 unsheltered people counted in the county in 2017 represent a 21 percent increase over last years tally.

The numbers underscore the severity of a problem that stretches from Seattle to San Diego. As rents soar and access to affordable housing shrinks, the number of people living in states along the West Coast is trending in the wrong direction.

In California, the number of people living without permanent shelter rose by nearly 14 percent, the report shows. Oregon saw a 5 percent increase this year, while in Washington the homeless population rose to 21,112 an increase of 1 percent over the previous year.

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So then why is their homeless population so bad?
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/homeless/king-county-homeless-population-third-largest-in-u-s/
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But that was 8 years ago and she's a changed person now, so its fine.
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JE19426 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Are you talking about TTIP? That was never a free trade agreement.

An agreement designed to allow free trade, isn't a free trade agreement? Really? Really? ...Really?

TTIP and TTP aren't free trade agreements, no matter how many times you put the words "free trade" around them. There's a reason both parties actively rallied against them. Pelosi and Reid actively blocked Obama from making progress.

https://www.europeaninstitute.org/index.php/ei-blog/263-july-2015/2057-ttip-edges-forward-buoyed-by-votes-in-u-s-congress-and-eu-parliament-7-17
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Hexenherz posted...

You realize there's like at least three different ways someone could interpret the expression "Russian assets" in this context, right? Which is exactly why I put it in quotation marks (and even did it again).

Fine, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here that you weren't actually trying to deny that it happened but really just asking for evidence. I provided evidence. Is your argument now that you don't like the evidence? Also, are you still arguing that Russia responded with indifference? Did you not like their direct quotes?
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Mr_Biscuit posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Mr_Biscuit posted...

Okay. Theres a kid who is trying to rebel and get away with shit. The cops bust them for doing drugs at the mall. You as a father have two parenting options:

a) catch them, ground them, and do your best to make sure they learn never to it again or there will be consequences
b) catch them, blame their mother, call the cops liars, and say the kid probably maybe didnt do it at all or if they did it isnt important but they didnt but they did but smart people think they didnt

Which scenario is more likely to end with the kid doing it again

There's no need for metaphors. You yourself said Russia tries this shit all the time, meaning past administrations have failed to curb their behavior. If you can't even point to a single example of Russia acting in a new, emboldened manner since Trump, then how is this any different than before?

Previous punishments were not effective deterrents so we should just let them do whatever they want for the rest of time

What, are you Cathy Griffin now? I didn't say that, and that was never what this discussion was about. Can I assume you're done trying to argue that they respect us less than before because you still haven't provided a single concrete example of how their behavior has changed compared to previous administrations?

Youre asking for proof that they respect us less. Im telling you that assuming a president giving them cart blanche to do whatever they want and outright excusing their biggest transgression in recent memory will lower their respect for us is, like, very basic common sense.

You're asking me to, with no evidence, believe that Russia has less respect for the US when every indication is that they are acting the same way they always have across multiple past administrations. Come back in a year when they're actually doing shit that they never would have done with past administrations and I'll agree with you. Screen cap this if you want. I'll be glad to admit I was wrong. Until then, all you have is baseless speculation that you would prefer was true because it makes a stronger case for why Trump is bad.
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JE19426 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

This is about the EU importing soybeans from the US, not the other way around. There's certainly a conversation to be had about the impact of other goods being produced.

No, it's about the EU agreeing to negotiate that, which they have been doing for years until Trump fucked it up.

Are you talking about TTIP? That was never a free trade agreement.
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Hexenherz posted...

I never said assets weren't destroyed, I was asking what your sources were so I could look at the information myself. One article was published before any real information was even released so I don't see the purpose of. The Wikipedia article mostly contains information that the Russian MOD published that just talks about how some planes that weren't even in service got destroyed.

Right, the air quotes were there just for fun, right?
Hexenherz posted...

I am curious to see what "Russian assets" we bombed, since AFAIK we gave them more than enough of a heads up to clear out the majority of stuff from both major targets.

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NibeIungsnarf posted...

s0nicfan posted...

If the end result of this is greater trade with the EU to offset the impact of China's counter-tariffs while we still have tariffs on them, that's a net gain for the US.

Wouldn't that be an economic loss for people in the lower class as wages for goods produced in the EU are far higher than for good produced in China?

This is about the EU importing soybeans from the US, not the other way around. There's certainly a conversation to be had about the impact of other goods being produced.
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Hexenherz posted...

Is it going to fully offset China's counter-tariffs or just lesson the blow?

We'll have to wait and see, I suppose.
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Hexenherz posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Hexenherz posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Hexenherz posted...

I am curious to see what "Russian assets" we bombed, since AFAIK we gave them more than enough of a heads up to clear out the majority of stuff from both major targets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Shayrat_missile_strike#Casualties

Russian military personnel were also present at the airbase at the time it was attacked.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/latest-update-syrian-airbase-attacked-us-navy/

Russia literally announced they didn't give a shit and the strikes didn't do anything. If anything it just made America look weak for launching a shitton of missiles and not doing any damage. Why would Russia care about that rofl. Especially since they were given advance notice.

They literally said it was "an act of aggression against a sovereign country violating the norms of international law under a trumped-up pretext", cancelled our MoU with them, and called an emergency session of the UN security council. They said it put us on the cusp of war and said it could have "extremely serious" consequences... and then they did nothing.

Yes. They embarrass the US (well, point out when we embarrass ourselves), but their goal isn't an open armed conflict with the US so what else do you propose they do?

First you try to claim no assets were destroyed. THEN you try to claim Russia's response was indifference. NOW you're basically just agreeing with me that we hit them hard and they backed off because they didn't want a war. They made no attempt to retaliate at all. That is clear evidence that we still command enough respect for them to take us seriously.
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Mr_Biscuit posted...

Okay. Theres a kid who is trying to rebel and get away with shit. The cops bust them for doing drugs at the mall. You as a father have two parenting options:

a) catch them, ground them, and do your best to make sure they learn never to it again or there will be consequences
b) catch them, blame their mother, call the cops liars, and say the kid probably maybe didnt do it at all or if they did it isnt important but they didnt but they did but smart people think they didnt

Which scenario is more likely to end with the kid doing it again

There's no need for metaphors. You yourself said Russia tries this shit all the time, meaning past administrations have failed to curb their behavior. If you can't even point to a single example of Russia acting in a new, emboldened manner since Trump, then how is this any different than before?

Previous punishments were not effective deterrents so we should just let them do whatever they want for the rest of time

What, are you Cathy Griffin now? I didn't say that, and that was never what this discussion was about. Can I assume you're done trying to argue that they respect us less than before because you still haven't provided a single concrete example of how their behavior has changed compared to previous administrations?
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Hexenherz posted...

s0nicfan posted...

As US soybean farmers have struggled against retaliatory tariffs,

You mean the tariffs that China put against us specifically because of Trump's economic policies?

If the end result of this is greater trade with the EU to offset the impact of China's counter-tariffs while we still have tariffs on them, that's a net gain for the US.
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Hexenherz posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Hexenherz posted...

I am curious to see what "Russian assets" we bombed, since AFAIK we gave them more than enough of a heads up to clear out the majority of stuff from both major targets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Shayrat_missile_strike#Casualties

Russian military personnel were also present at the airbase at the time it was attacked.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/latest-update-syrian-airbase-attacked-us-navy/

Russia literally announced they didn't give a shit and the strikes didn't do anything. If anything it just made America look weak for launching a shitton of missiles and not doing any damage. Why would Russia care about that rofl. Especially since they were given advance notice.

They literally said it was "an act of aggression against a sovereign country violating the norms of international law under a trumped-up pretext", cancelled our MoU with them, and called an emergency session of the UN security council. They said it put us on the cusp of war and said it could have "extremely serious" consequences... and then they did nothing.
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

Okay. Theres a kid who is trying to rebel and get away with shit. The cops bust them for doing drugs at the mall. You as a father have two parenting options:

a) catch them, ground them, and do your best to make sure they learn never to it again or there will be consequences
b) catch them, blame their mother, call the cops liars, and say the kid probably maybe didnt do it at all or if they did it isnt important but they didnt but they did but smart people think they didnt

Which scenario is more likely to end with the kid doing it again

There's no need for metaphors. You yourself said Russia tries this shit all the time, meaning past administrations have failed to curb their behavior. If you can't even point to a single example of Russia acting in a new, emboldened manner since Trump, then how is this any different than before?
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Hexenherz posted...

I am curious to see what "Russian assets" we bombed, since AFAIK we gave them more than enough of a heads up to clear out the majority of stuff from both major targets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Shayrat_missile_strike#Casualties

Russian military personnel were also present at the airbase at the time it was attacked.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/latest-update-syrian-airbase-attacked-us-navy/
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Authentic_fan posted...

I think if it has, there would be evidence of it. Once there's evidence of it, you'll be right.

Boy, are YOU in for a surprise

Says the 11 karma alt with no sig and no evidence. If you've got something to add do it on your main like a big boy.
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

s0nicfan posted...

So Trump got everything he wanted?

*slurps*

From the article, and I'll only use the writer or Junker's words and explicitly not include Trump's:

Mr Juncker, meanwhile, said the US and EU had agreed to hold off on further tariffs as part of trade talks aimed at averting a crippling trade dispute involving the lucrative automobile market.

We have identified a number of areas on which to work together, work towards zero tariffs on industrial goods.

That was my main intention, for those to come down to zero tariffs on industrial goods."

As US soybean farmers have struggled against retaliatory tariffs, Mr Juncker said the EU "can import more soybeans from the US and it will be done."

He said the two sides also agreed to work together to reform the World Trade Organization, which Mr Trump has vehemently criticized as being unfair to the US.

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Mr_Biscuit posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Alphamon posted...

Mr_Biscuit posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Based on what changes in behavior or posturing?

Is this a real question

Hacked our election, had the President go on television and blame the hacking on American stupidity, and straight up declared Trump will probably change his mind in their favor because everyone knows his word is garbage

I feel like you won't settle for anything less than them declaring war as "substantial," though

youre not going to get an honest conversation from a Republican

They wouldn't have attempted to hack the election if they thought we would retaliate. That's not on Trump, because it happened before he was president. If you want to show they have less respect than before, you need to actually show that they are doing things that wouldn't have in the past. This isn't rocket science. This is also true for this topic. Obama said Putin had done extraordinary work... George Bush called him trustworthy. Bill was the last president to refuse to say anything positive about him. On the flip side, Putin literally called Obama an idiot. None of this is new.

Im gonna humor you.

-Putin tries to pull one over on America all the time no matter who is president
-everyone except Trump goes after them for this, forcing them to either not do it or try to be covert about it
-Trump blames American weakness for this and praises Putin at every turn, causing them to openly talk about how hell end up doing what they want

Do you think this may have some effect on how emboldened Russia feels to do whatever they want y/n

I think if it has, there would be evidence of it. Once there's evidence of it, you'll be right. Until then, it's literally business as usual.

Let me ask you a question in response: Do you think that the fact that we bombed the shit out of their military assets twice in Syria and they did nothing in response is maybe evidence that they still take us seriously?

EDIT: You also can't claim he tries to pull one over on us "all the time" and ALSO say that the US response has forced them to not do it. Those are two directly contradictory statements.
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So Trump got everything he wanted?
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Alphamon posted...

Mr_Biscuit posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Based on what changes in behavior or posturing?

Is this a real question

Hacked our election, had the President go on television and blame the hacking on American stupidity, and straight up declared Trump will probably change his mind in their favor because everyone knows his word is garbage

I feel like you won't settle for anything less than them declaring war as "substantial," though

youre not going to get an honest conversation from a Republican

They wouldn't have attempted to hack the election if they thought we would retaliate. That's not on Trump, because it happened before he was president. If you want to show they have less respect than before, you need to actually show that they are doing things that wouldn't have in the past. This isn't rocket science. This is also true for this topic. Obama said Putin had done extraordinary work... George Bush called him trustworthy. Bill was the last president to refuse to say anything positive about him. On the flip side, Putin literally called Obama an idiot. None of this is new.

I'm not even trying to argue they respect us. All I'm trying to argue is that their stance on the US hasn't changed in a long time, and people refuse to even concede that because it makes Trump look a little less bad. You've been able to show nothing, and all shock can do is repeat his "we should be tougher" mantra which STILL had nothing to do with this topic.

You say you're not going to get an honest convo with a republican, but I'm the only one even trying here.
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Based on what changes in behavior or posturing?

Is this a real question

It must be, because 2 people have thus far failed to provide an answer although they have since replied in this topic. Maybe you'll be the one to change that.
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And let me clarify: I don't think they respect us, but I don't think that's a new development either. But at the very least, we bombed the shit out of their bases in Syria, twice, and they rolled over both times. So whether you think they respect us, there's at least evidence that they still take us seriously.
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Hexenherz posted...

s0nicfan posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

If their actions dont change then sanction them further. Dont go oh well and start licking their bung.

So you can't find any actual change in their behavior between this presidency and past ones that would imply they respect the US less than before? My question has nothing to do with whether we're being hard enough on Russia and everything to do with the completely baseless accusation that they used to have more respect for us and don't now. Don't change the subject just because you've got nothing.

What sort of behavioral change do you expect? That they're going to just invade Alaska or something?

Enough to justify the argument that they respect us less. If there's literally no change in their behavior, then there's literally no justification for the claim that their respect for the US has changed.
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Tip work can be highly skilled, though. Just look at a good bartender or a waiter at a high end restaurant.
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Then don't live that way.
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shockthemonkey posted...

If their actions dont change then sanction them further. Dont go oh well and start licking their bung.

So you can't find any actual change in their behavior between this presidency and past ones that would imply they respect the US less than before? My question has nothing to do with whether we're being hard enough on Russia and everything to do with the completely baseless accusation that they used to have more respect for us and don't now. Don't change the subject just because you've got nothing.
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They ruined William.
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

Hexenherz posted...

Far less seriously

and

By a lot

Based on what changes in behavior or posturing? From what I can tell, their actions and posturings in Crimea, Syria, the (rest of the) middle east, east asia, and the UN haven't changed at all. Like... outside of the US media interpretation of how seriously they take us, point to stuff Russia wouldn't have dared to do under previous administrations that they're doing under Trump. We've repeatedly missile striked bases supplied by the Russian government in Syria and they didn't do shit about it.
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Mr_Biscuit posted...

s0nicfan posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Don't worry. I'm sure the EU will clean up that mess without needing the US.

Is this how the slurpers want to spin this?

The TC openly admits this is trolling on Russia's part. IF and when he changes his mind on Crimea we can and should criticize him for it. Until then, it's also fair to point out that everyone is expecting the US to deal with this shit when the entire continent, having formed their own union, seems ambivalent at best to their own country's problems.

"Trolling" was a quote from the tweet. I'd call it more "gloating"

Would you say Russia takes the US more or less seriously than before, and by how much? Because I'm pretty sure when then annexed Crimea in 2014 it wasn't from a position of fear of US retaliation.
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shockthemonkey posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Don't worry. I'm sure the EU will clean up that mess without needing the US.

Is this how the slurpers want to spin this?

The TC openly admits this is trolling on Russia's part. IF and when he changes his mind on Crimea we can and should criticize him for it. Until then, it's also fair to point out that everyone is expecting the US to deal with this shit when the entire continent, having formed their own union, seems ambivalent at best to their own country's problems.
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Don't worry. I'm sure the EU will clean up that mess without needing the US.
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silentwing26x posted...

@s0nicfan

I googled around to find that picture but found nothing about it. Searched for "che guevara shot girls" and variants of that

I used "che guevara shooting women". It's the first image that shows up.
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98% chance of winning.
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KnightofShikari posted...

why can't storm be an asian male?

why can't storm be a trans-racial, genderqueer xur?
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silentwing26x posted...

s0nicfan posted...

shokan_warrior posted...

If only there was a nationalistic and caring leader, like some kinda national socialist to change things but that'll never happen.....right?

wtf is that a real picture?

Yea. Che was as brutal as Stalin when it came to ruling, but nobody ever talks about it because he's a socialist hero.
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Verdekal posted...

s0nicfan posted...

shokan_warrior posted...

If only there was a nationalistic and caring leader, like some kinda national socialist to change things but that'll never happen.....right?

Is that Che Guerra?

Yea. People just don't recognize him when he's not on a trendy t-shirt and also personally shooting women and children in the face to make his government run.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

The British were able to go into a country and leave it better off (relative) than it was prior. America just removes stability and declares "mission accomplished". The part they just can't wrap their damn heads around is that not every culture is compatible with a western democracy...

Hasn't Trump been saying that for 2 years now and people are calling it racist?
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shokan_warrior posted...

If only there was a nationalistic and caring leader, like some kinda national socialist to change things but that'll never happen.....right?

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tennisdude818 posted...

They really should just default. Investors shouldnt be protected from consequences just because they lend to a government that is a fiscal basket case as opposed to a shitty private company like Sears.

And their debt problem isnt a hurricanes fault.

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eston posted...

I like how the BBC are the only ones who tried to fact check the story

That's why I get most of my news from the bbc. I feel like they're less invested in the outcomes so they tend to be more professional.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

anyone who thinks they're clones probably thinks scorpion/sub zero and ryu/evil ryu are clones in those games too. its ignorance

You need to look at Guilty Gear or BlazBlue to get a sense of where people are coming from with regards to ASW games. They normally have pretty extreme variety not only in design, but also mechanics, often having characters with completely unique gimmicks such a special meters or ammo. Shoto clones as are often seen in Capcom games may technically not be clones in the most literal of sense, but it would be stupid to deny the overarching similarities in their combat style even if the specifics of their moves result in different combo chains.
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ledbowman posted...

s0nicfan posted...

HOLD ON there, chief. You used the phrase "mass separation" first. Dark and I both used the phrase "the separation" because we were talking about what happens at the border to people arrested. What's happening to families isn't anything new because that's how the laws are structured. That is objectively true. You can argue that under Trump it's happening more often, but you CAN'T argue that the policy of separating kids from their parents is something new under Trump because that's objectively not true.

It was rare before Trump because it's cruel. Trump made it a boilerplate deterrent. People above me saying separation happened before Trump are clearly trying to say it was the exact same before Trump and that people are only outraged now.

Why should our solution to it be to arbitrarily ignore it when we have a perfectly functioning mechanism to legally CHANGE IT in the form of new laws? What's the justification? Would you support Trump's government picking any other laws they don't like and just ignoring them, too?
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