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So I noticed that Rab didn't appear in any of the cutscenes while recruiting Sylvando. Am I correct to assume that there's no real set order for reuniting with your lost compatriots, or in fact you could literally go to end game with just you and Hendrick?

Getting some Octopath Traveler feelz here.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Which is Matt and which is Pat again?
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Vlado posted...

There are (very disturbing) photos in the article.

There's pictures of a 10 year in drag.

Nothing about the pics says "dancing sexily for money." That's why JaKyL is saying "if."
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Arin just screams and blames everything else for issues he has in games and is overall negative towards a lot of it to the point that it sometimes comes off bitter.

Well he is Grump.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

LapisLazuli posted...

So are there any major traditional LP channels left?

Game Grumps.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Jakyl25 posted...

10 year olds probably shouldnt be dancing sexually for money, if thats what youre asking, and if thats what was happening.

Key part bolded here.

Seeing 10 year olds at a bar in any capacity is pretty standard in Michigan. Hell I've been served drinks or food by them.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

He just handed a dragon poop.

I can't with this guy.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Oh my God.

Reuniting with Sylvando.

I just...

I can't...

Fucking what.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

I can't help but think Hendrik would have been a better first companion than Erik.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Vlado posted...

And then people wonder why the right-wing keeps growing...

In US? Citation needed since the vote went massively for the Dems in the midterms.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

I need to put mine out together so I can remember it.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Hendrik loves nudey mags too!
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Oh damn, Hendrik joins me?

And he's 5 levels lower than me.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Jakyl25 posted...

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

So uh, the word is now that WWE isn't worried about the ratings because they are extremely confident that in January they have stuff planned that will turn everything around.

I don't even have a single idea what it could be.

Cenas back on 1/7 and he probably boosts things like 10% just by being there

At least until they start screwing him up too

He just said he wasn't working any televised dates.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

So do you exclusively link to RT now? How much are they paying you?
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

I did not expect to almost cry when Lu-fin-art reaching for that poor child hand only for it to fall through because you were incorporeal but damn do I not like watching kids suffer.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Oh.

This is sadder than I expected.

:(
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

I'm an adorable tiny fish!

This is the best!
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Thank you, Beautifulface.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Should I also complete quests?
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Feel free to spoil it, I know the world gets fucked.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

So am I about to enter a point of no-return with this First Forest thing? Should I go and open all those things with the magic key?
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Also are you sure there's more outfits to get for the characters? Because it seems the MC doesn't get anything new until post-game after the Drasilian Armor.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Hey, don't shame Rab over his nude magazines you jerks.

I hate everyone now.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Thanks, Bison.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

They want more pee related Maverick storylines on 205 Live.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/12/13/politics/melania-trump-poll-numbers-drop/index.html

People don't even like Melania.

Ouch.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Uglyface2 posted...

Ah. The painting.

Dora-in-Grey.

That pun hurt me.

FUCK I just got it.

tcaz2 posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

A lot of them seem to be linked to post-game play. Are there any unique ones I can still get before I go post-game?

Yes, plenty.

Fuck yeah!
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Also I'm kind of bummed I'm gonna have to stop using the armors that change appearances.

A lot of them seem to be linked to post-game play. Are there any unique ones I can still get before I go post-game?
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

I was thinking more along the lines of "character like Hela are huge assholes."
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

The movies that make the most money have clearcut heroes and villains. Doesn't mean the villain can't be endearing or even somewhat right (why hello there, Kilmonger) but at the end of the day I think the WWE very much needs to live in the world of "here's our good guys, here's our bad guys, they will fight."
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Heels can still show face-like qualities. It's why NXT works so well because heels aren't asked to wrestle slow-plodding styles with lots of rest holds, taunting and momentum killing maneuvers. They still use them, and they're still present, but they're not beyond flurries of offense and face style "comebacks."

Look at all the MotY candidates Gargano was as a face and one as a heel. There's a subtle shift to denote the change in alignment without throwing out the entire repertoire.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

I fought a painting and a book and got two more orbs.

I ain't gonna lie, this part feels like a bit of a drag and the stories aren't particularly interesting. And suddenly we're introduced to some asshole named Mordegon who I assume will be our sub-boss to the final villain.

Like that little extra part at the end of getting the second orb where the witch didn't get put back in the book didn't feel all that necessary. You could have just had the Queen go "she's powerless and she doesn't deserve to be locked in that book forever, let's free her." Boom, done. I also like how she says "oh, she taught me how to be a better queen" yet the witch literally gets the question wrong meaning she would be a horrible queen.

I'm trying to figure out what exactly the painting lady was. Like, was she just some sort of sentience given physical form?
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Yeah, I believe John Oliver pointed out the disproportionate time spent on her e-mails vs. Trump's many scandals for the sake of appearing unbiased.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

The core concept is that Becky's injury only rushed the pseudo-double turns.

Had you argued this, say, right after Summerslam to right before Evolution, I would have been with you in that WWE had long-term plans for Becky heel and Charlotte face. But there was a clear audible with the post-Evolution booking. Hell, reports came out saying that the WWE was done with the heel/face dynamic and were going with "both parties have points" even before Evolution. Which means they had all but given up on Lynch being heel and now it was a matter of what dynamic to take with Charlotte going forward. I'm sure they weighed options to keep Charlotte face by having her feud with some random heel undercarders they want to establish (think her vs. Ruby Riott before WM last year), but to me there was a significant switch in how Becky was portrayed.

I think what also helps is that Becky is still dunking on a now heel Charlotte instead of re-embracing her now that they have both "seen the light." If you want an example of how Charlotte's turn could have reaffirmed Becky as a heel, look no further than how they're handling Gargano's turn in relation to Ciampa. Becky, also at the very least, acknowledge face Asuka earning her title shot vs. heel Charlotte being handed one. Sure, she'll slap the taste out of both of their mouths but there's a little bit of begrudging respect to Asuka.

Above all else, everything on the dirtsheets says the WWE loves what Becky is doing, and especially if she's establishing an outside presence from the WWE. When she's getting mentioned on MMA shows and what have you, that gets Vince's attention.

Could they screw it up? Absolutely. I'm not even talking a loss to Ronda (and I believe Ronda's contract is up around that time so Ronda might do the job on the way out). They could kill her heat by having her altered too much. They could try to force her back heel for the sake of some throwaway feud with a Naomi or something. But right now? Things seem to be progressing rather nicely.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

And I'm saying that I don't believe in tweeners. She's a face that straddles the heel line. If that means tweener to you then that's on you. But to me there's a full spectrum with no real proper midpoint. There's pure white meat babyfaces like your former Sami Zayns. There's your Aleisteir Black's who are more just straight asskickers who mostly target heels. Then there's your Becky Lynch who just don't give a fuck.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

Btw if Charlotte caught a beating while Asuka and Becky stood tall, most people here would be "oh God Charlotte is gonna win, isn't she?"
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

HashtagSEP posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

You ask her ONE TIME to take a beating to establish Asuka and it just ruined everything, apparently.

It ruins it if she's a face, yes.

Which is why she's not a face.

Which is my initial fucking point.

So basically you want Becky to be all powerful and never ever lose. And that faces can never fight each other or stand tall over one another.

Even though its happened all the time in WWE. Michaels over Cena. Rock over Austin.

God no wonder you all fucking loved Strowman when I found him boring as fuck.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

I don't believe in tweeners. You're either a face that straddles the heel line or a heel that does the opposite (those are pretty rare, though).
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

HashtagSEP posted...

I don't actually care what it got changed to... Stare down, brawl, whatever.. I'm simply arguing that Asuka beating down Becky and then standing over her as a face was the wrong move.

Becky is on a streak where outside of Summerslam she's won a shit ton of matches.

She's been on the right side of beatdowns 90% of the time since Summerslam, including getting the absolute best of Ronda fucking Rousey.

You ask her ONE TIME to take a beating to establish Asuka and it just ruined everything, apparently.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

HashtagSEP posted...

...I mean literally both of these things are what happened in the segment you're defending to begin with...?

Doing a beatdown angle with three people involves more moving parts and more excuses to get caught off guard.

And I'm sure when Charlotte has a weapon in her hand and sees Becky Lynch in sight, her first instinct is gonna be "yeah let's talk."
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

HashtagSEP posted...

Like, this would be the equivalent of Elias just turning face, but then because there's a feud of Him/Lashley/Rollins, Rollins beats Elias down and stands over him to cheers, and then going "Yep, WWE nailed Elias's face turn!"

Considering Elias has a serious credibility crisis as a performer, it would actually be even more justified as it would establish Elias as a credible threat.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

HashtagSEP posted...

If WWE actually is trying to push Becky like this Austin-esque face mega star, then yes, having another face beat her down, stand over her, and get cheered for it is stupid.

Cause Rock or Mankind never stood tall over Austin.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

HashtagSEP posted...

..Literally where did I say that? Everything else can play out the same way. You just keep Becky out of it and have her stare down Asuka at the end.

So Charlotte gets DQ'd, wails on Asuka, then Asuka turns the tables and it makes Charlotte look like a reasonable contender... how?

"Oh look, I can't beat Asuka so I bet get DQ'd."
"Oh fiddle sticks, I can't even do a proper beatdown. And I've lost twice to Becky clean on PPV recently. Please take me seriously in this upcoming match."
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

HashtagSEP posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

They pretty much nailed this segment and you are so desperate to complain about anything that you want to argue it was wrong.

HashtagSEP posted...

"WWE did something stupid but it's your fault, not their fault."

Okay, I see you're sticking with that argument.

"Hey here is why they nailed this segment."

"LOL SO YOURE SAYING THE WWE DID SOMETHING STUPID LOL"

I'm thinking it's about time to block you because this is fucking ridiculous and you know it.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

HashtagSEP posted...

Though if you want a legitimate answer, which I don't think you actually do...

You have Becky not even get involved at all. Much like when she left the contract signing early, you have her keep her distance and look on while whatever happens between Charlotte/Asuka. Then, if it still ends in Asuka standing tall, you have her stare her down and end the show there. You certainly don't have her get beat up and stood over by somebody who you're portraying as a better face/more deserving of being cheered and basically go "Cheer this one!"

So basically you have either Charlotte (who's on a PPV losing streak) or Asuka (same) take a significant loss before the PPV with no involvement from the champ.

But the way they did it was stupid. Uh-huh.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

HashtagSEP posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

If WWE actually thought of her as an Austin face and actually wanted her cheered as such, they wouldn't have literally just gone out of their way to use her to have Asuka get cheered over her/at her expense.

If the WWE wanted Charlotte to be heel, they wouldn't have had her attack two of the most annoying heels on the roster the first Smackdown after her heel turn at Survivor Series.

Like someone had to stand tall before a PPV, what did you want? Becky and Asuka to stand tall together, completely contradicting Becky's character? Maybe have a dumb Ryback/Cena tug of war over the belt while Charlotte's CM Punk looks on with sadness? If Becky stood tall at the end over Asuka and Charlotte, it wouldn't say any more or less about their alignment AND make it more susceptible for her to lose. And if Charlotte won you would be bitching about how the WWE makes everything about Charlotte and this is just further evidence it will be Charlotte vs. Ronda at WM.

Please tell me the ending you would have preferred that reinforced Becky as a face while not contradicting her Austin-style behaviour.

"WWE did something stupid but it's your fault, not their fault."

Okay, I see you're sticking with that argument.

Don't see where they did anything stupid here.

Re-establish Charlotte as a heel? Check.

Re-establish Becky as someone who takes shit from no one? Check.

Re-establish Asuka as a credible threat? Check.

They pretty much nailed this segment and you are so desperate to complain about anything that you want to argue it was wrong.

It's almost self-parody at this point.

"Becky Lynch is now the unified women's champion by submitting both Ronda and Charlotte at the same time."

"Yeah but I'm not sure if Becky is a face so this sucks."
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

HashtagSEP posted...

If WWE actually thought of her as an Austin face and actually wanted her cheered as such, they wouldn't have literally just gone out of their way to use her to have Asuka get cheered over her/at her expense.

If the WWE wanted Charlotte to be heel, they wouldn't have had her attack two of the most annoying heels on the roster the first Smackdown after her heel turn at Survivor Series.

Like someone had to stand tall before a PPV, what did you want? Becky and Asuka to stand tall together, completely contradicting Becky's character? Maybe have a dumb Ryback/Cena tug of war over the belt while Charlotte's CM Punk looks on with sadness? If Becky stood tall at the end over Asuka and Charlotte, it wouldn't say any more or less about their alignment AND make it more susceptible for her to lose. And if Charlotte won you would be bitching about how the WWE makes everything about Charlotte and this is just further evidence it will be Charlotte vs. Ronda at WM.

Please tell me the ending you would have preferred that reinforced Becky as a face while not contradicting her Austin-style behaviour.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

I just don't think Asuka is gonna look bad in this match. If anything, I think they'll be building her up because if the route is Ronda/Becky then Asuka is likely gonna be in the Smackdown women's championship scene.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.

HashtagSEP posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

Because Asuka is the conquering face. Becky is the morally questionable Austin-style face. That should be pretty obvious when she says she's gonna slap everyone on the roster after telling them to form a line.

Nah. The fact that we were supposed to cheer Asuka over BOTH of them means they're both shades of heel. WWE does not think Becky is a face right now. They're just portraying her as slightly less heel than Charlotte.

Becky cuts promos literally thanking the crowd = they still think she's a heel.

Alright.
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TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues.