Lurker > Mr Lasastryke

Inviso posted...

while homosexual relationships are historically "abnormal",

yeah, maybe it's just a cultural difference.

i live in the netherlands so the "homosexual relationships are abnormal" thing is kinda laughable to me >_>
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i just don't get why it's necessarily "gay bashing," i guess.

if there's a cartoon about trump and merkel kissing, is it "straight bashing"?
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Jakyl25 posted...

And I disagree

you think the NYT hates gay people?
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Jakyl25 posted...

This cartoon is decidedly meant to laugh at two dudes being all kissy kissy

it's not just "two dudes," though. it's trump and putin.

pretty sure this cartoon would also have been made if putin had been a woman.
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i'm glad muffin suddenly became an ambassador for the LGBT community just because people were making fun of trump though
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also, the joke is that trump and putin love each other to the point of being in a relationship. it's not the "GAY PEOPLE SUCK LOL" kind of joke - that's the kind that people have a problem with.
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SmartMuffin posted...

Has the world's favorite 25-year old socialist commented on it yet?

why does it matter how old she is?
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Jakyl25 posted...

Also Putin wants to work WITH our intelligence agencies to get to the bottom of this and that would be great!

man what a nice guy
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Eddv posted...

This is why I find red sox and SephG to be utterly reprehensible as they only think in terms of the game.

at the risk of getting vituperated for defending red sox again, i'll point that he DID write in bernie, at least. but yeah, sephy definitely has a "the only thing that matters is my team winning no matter what" mindset.

muffin does, too. when people pointed out that he was insane for voting for mccain in '08 (because palin), he went "well what do you guys want me to do, vote for a democrat???" he basically admitted that if satan were the republican candidate, he'd still vote for him over the dem candidate.
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really? ok i stand corrected.

the whole "banned for being underage then unbanned" thing seemed more like a ridiculous hypothetical than something that would actually happen >_>
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Dantezoid posted...

Easiest counterexample is banned for underage. You can get your account back with proof of age

i actually didn't know this! i thought merely claiming you were underage was a bannable offense regardless of whether or not you're actually underage (with the exception that saying "i am 12 and what is this" is allowed), so in that case proof of age wouldn't really matter.

i doubt nfun got banned for being underage, though.
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maybe you got more karma by buying a t-shirt and you forgot about it? >_>
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karma bonuses haven't been a thing for ages. that can't be it.

also, you can't be banned and then unbanned.
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SmartMuffin posted...

But no, I'm sure racism is the only reason Germans are waking up to this and opposing more of it.

not the only reason but it is one reason
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1018738368753078273

Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse

welp, so much for "trump absolutely needs to become president because unlike hillary, he'll make sure the US has a good relationship with russia."
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

and you were making an unreasonably childish respond to what started as a simple request.

not sure what's "unreasonably childish" about asking for something in return when people demand that i make a sacrifice.

Also, Im pretty sure in your discussion with Red Sox in THIS topic, you said something similar to what the fuck are you talking about or that makes no fucking sense, so pot, kettle, bruh.

i'm not saying i'm never rude or that all of my posts are perfect. i was responding to ed, who went "HOW CAN YOU ENJOY ARGUING WITH RED SOX." i responded with "well, i'll take the average red sox post over a post that's wrong, rude and adds 0% value to the topic." it wasn't meant to be a personal attack on you, for the record. just named a random example of a post in this topic i find to be worse than the average red sox post - i could have named tons of other examples as well.
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redrocket posted...

How many of these 11 posts were "toxic?"

i'm not going to wade through a bunch of old sephy posts just to prove to you that he sucks in these topics.

if you think he's not a bothersome presence here, fine. i disagree.
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Eddv posted...

What is enjoyable to you about arguing with a brick wall.

he can be annoying but i don't think he's that bad. at least he's polite and he often addresses the points i make.

i'll take red sox in a heartbeat over everyone arguing with me about red sox, at least in the context of this argument. take tony's "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SEPHY NEVER POSTS MORE OFTEN THAN TWICE A TOPIC" post, for instance. that post was 1) rude and 2) incorrect. way worse than the average red sox post.
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JeffreyRaze posted...

Like, you do you and all, but don't act like there's not a significant difference between the impacts the two have on the topic.

sure, there is a difference.

i've been over this last time everyone got mad at me for replying to red sox. short version: i don't agree at all with the people saying that the quantity is the most important thing. i'll take a lot of red sox posts with him playing devil's advocate over not as many sephy posts with him making this topic toxic as fuck.
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Corrik posted...

And, if you bitch about them talking to people, you are being an issue also when you do it.

in general i agree with your stance in this. i only brought up sephy because people were complaining about my interactions with red sox. i'm always incredibly annoyed when people engage sephy but i never bring it up - you'll never see me go "WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL RESPONDING TO HIM DO YOU STILL NOT REALIZE HE'S JUST A TROLL GEEZ." but because people wanted me to stop replying to red sox, i went "i'll do it, but with a caveat: since my enjoyment of these topics would decrease a lot if i'm not able to argue with him, i want something in return, namely no more responses to sephy."*

people could have just ended this by saying "deal" but they didn't do that (because it's so incredibly important to respond to posts like "i love how we have a conservative majority now i'm going to be even richer smiley face"). instead they threw a bunch of insults at me and now half the regulars have me on ignore. oh well.

* i'll add that xic's request was actually reasonable, as he doesn't engage sephy (not that i can remember, at least). but he frequently acts like an asshole to me (as can be seen in this topic). lol @ the idea of me doing anything for him.
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JeffreyRaze posted...

You're calling 11 posts in a topic a significant amount?

i think so, especially because the posts were spread out through the entirety of the topic. i could see the argument if he just splurged 11 posts in a row but that's not what happened.

it's a lower amount of posts than the amount of red sox posts in this topic, sure. but it's not the "super rare sephy appearance" my opponents are making it out to be, either. it's definitely enough posts for him to be a notable presence in the topic, especially because in addition to the 11 posts, a lot of people were quoting his posts as well.
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StealThisSheen posted...

If you're going to whine and cry and talk shit because people respond to Sephy, when he barely even posts, then you can't whine and cry and talk shit when people complain about you replying to red sox, because you do it literally every topic

what the fuck is this shit? did you even read my post?

1) no, he doesn't always "barely even post." i just pointed out that he posted a substantial amount two topics ago.
2) i just told you that several topics ago red sox was barely posting, if at all. so no, i don't reply to him "literally ever topic." pretty hard for me to reply when there's nothing to reply to.

This "I won't be a decent poster because nobody will give me anything!" is stupid

yeah, i have to be a decent poster while other regulars can carry on being unreasonable assholes. great deal.
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StealThisSheen posted...

How many times in 183 and this one?

And then how many times has red sox posted?

lol, this is literally the argument you guys are resorting to now? "sephy doesn't taint EVERY topic with his bullshit trolling and insults, so there's nothing wrong with people engaging him!"

contrary to what sephy may believe i don't have a spreadsheet detailing the post counts of sephy and red sox in this topic series, but i do know that red sox doesn't post frequently in every single topic either. i let that "lasa/red sox containment" topic purge because at that point red sox was hardly posting - either in that topic or in this topic.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Whens the last time Seph has posted more than like, twice, in the entirety of a politics topic?

he posted 11 times in topic 182
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jesus, do i really have to explain this? what kind of "compromise" is this?

"what do you think of this: YOU are going to completely stop doing you enjoy doing on a frequent basis, and WE'RE not going to act like total assholes to you! what a totally fair and balanced compromise!" give me a break.
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SupremeZero posted...

They're not bitching you out constantly.

In theory.

lol

i'll take the constant bitching out.
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XIII_rocks posted...

It's not about being a fucking doormat, holy christ. Compromise is not being a doormat.

i fail to see how it's "compromise" when i'm doing something for other people and other people are not doing anything for me.
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Vlado posted...

Those virtue signaling-drenched words usually mean anti-white male, anti-conservative, anti-nationalist, and anti-Christian.

anti-conservative is a good thing.
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Vlado posted...

Pedophiles Believe They Should Be A Part Of The LGBT Community

Oh wow, who could have possibly foreseen this?!

nobody?

not sure what the fuck you're even implying here. gay people are evil and want to fuck children?
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XIII_rocks posted...

But since red sox is the topical one right now, make the first step!

the problem is that i'm 100% sure that if i'm never going to respond to red sox again, people will keep responding to sephy. sephy literally called all the regulars in this topic autistic and that led to next to nothing. SEP stated that "he was never going to take him seriously again" when that happened but that lasted exactly one topic - the next topic he was just arguing with sephy again as if nothing had happened. so they're certainly not going to stop just because i - a not so popular regular in this topic - want them to. so no, i'm not going to be a doormat and stop doing something i enjoy doing (arguing with red sox) while other people do 0% for me.
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XIII_rocks posted...

Why can't you just do a nice thing for people and stop responding for other people's sake?

why can't other people do a nice thing for me and stop responding to sephyg? not sure why i need to be the single nice person in this topic.
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red sox 777 posted...

There's obviously a disagreement on how Hillary's statement was taken here.

i'm talking about what the statement was, not how it was taken. it was obviously taken as "OMG SHE THINKS HALF THE COUNTRY IS RACIST SEXIST ETC." that's pretty clear, looking at the response to the statmenet.
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Reg posted...

Selective reading and willful ignorance lets you conveniently ignore facts and tell lies about who I tell to fuck off and who I ask people not to bother with.

you've never given me so much crap about arguing with sephyg as you have about me arguing with red sox. i save all the topics so i can easily back this up.
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given that nobody has provided a decent counterargument to my "whataboutism tantrum" to date, i think i'll just keep responding to red sox.
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red sox 777 posted...

And one of them was the actual candidate.

oh my god are we still doing this?

people have explained a million times to you how hillary was NOT "calling half the country deplorables" and you're still spouting this nonsense.
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red sox 777 posted...

If I condemned anyone who lives in New York, just because there's a good chance they are a Yankees fan, that would be analogous to what Democrats are doing now with their sweeping condemnations of a quarter of the country.

to say that the majority of democrats are doing this is ridiculous.
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trdl23 posted...

Lasa ffs make another topic.

tried that before and it didn't work as red sox just kept posting here. and no, i'm not going to post in chris's stupid topic.

protip for people who have a problem with my posts: manually ignore them or put me on ignore. good luck!
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red sox 777 posted...

It's the inability to see people as individual people and only as part of a group that is the root of intolerance.

what does this even mean?
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red sox 777 posted...

Not being mean is entirely within the control of Democrats and if we are talking about practical things they can do to win, this is what they should be focused on.

we've been over this before, but this isn't what democrats should be focused on at all. tolerating racism, sexism, homophobia and nazism (what you call "not being mean") is NOT acceptable.
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red sox 777 posted...

I said Trump doesn't call people from other countries dumb.

ok, so...? is this supposed to be the deciding factor that makes conservatives so much more civil and tolerant in debates than liberals? "trump doesn't call people from other countries dumb"?
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Inviso posted...

The active Republican platform has become increasingly hostile to liberals

agree with this, though this wasn't really the point i was making.

last time i was arguing about this with red sox he claimed that "'social justice warrior' isn't an insult," which is laughable. he also claimed that "trump never calls anyone dumb," which is blatantly false if you look at his statements about "dumb as a rock mika." and i didn't even mention how often people on the right call anyone left of center "communists." i think being called a "communist" is as bad of an insult as being called a "nazi," and i've been called a communist by muffin a million times.

red sox isn't wrong when he states that sometimes liberals are too harsh on their opponents, but whenever someone points out that conservatives are just as bad in this regard he sugarcoats their behavior or ignores it. that's extremely annoying.
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pyresword posted...

It's not an incorrect statement, but the implication to me is that it's suggesting that all or a large fraction of people who felt offended by Liberals voted Trump in large part due to this reason.

that's not what i was saying. i was talking about the people who voted for trump because liberals were calling them nazis for no good reason and said THEY were being dumb. i wasn't attacking the people who got offended because liberals were calling them nazis and voted for trump for unrelated reasons.

i also didn't say a "large fraction" of the offended people voted for trump because they were offended but... this could be the case. i haven't seen any statistics on this. have you?
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Suprak the Stud posted...

ALSO my post doesnt even preclude Red Sox from having good reasons to vote Republican. Although I dont think he even voted for Trump IIRC.

he wrote in bernie
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pyresword posted...

Your post isn't the main post I was responding to, to be fair. (Which was Lasa's and Inviso's)

what was wrong with my posts? when did i say republicans have no real reasons to vote the way they vote?
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to be entirely fair, i will add to my previous posts that i don't think people who get accused by liberals of being nazis because they're anti-abortion or pro-gun are "special snowflakes." like i've stated before, i've experienced very little of this actually happening. but i've had both leftists and rightists tell me that's something that does happen somewhat frequently among the left on twitter and forums. that's wrong, and the people who get called nazis in those instances have a right to be offended.

HOWEVER, that does not make it ok to vote for fucking trump. destroying your country just to spite people who offended you is incredibly dumb and petty.
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also, sexism isn't even on the list? lol
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red sox 777 posted...

Top 10 reasons why Trump won:

1. Hillary Clinton
2. Liberals being mean to others
3. Liberal activists
4. Incompetent Democratic strategists
5. Donald Trump
6. Vladimir Putin
7. Barack Obama
8. The DNC
9. 16 other Republicans running
10. Twitter

donald trump (or rather, donald trump's ideas) should be #1.

i like how you put "liberals being mean" so high, though. thanks for confirming that trump supporters are the most special of snowflakes.
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red sox 777 posted...

Just watched a video of antifa people being arrested. About 90% of the words out of their mouths were expletives at the cops arresting them. The rest was mainly threats and personal insults to the police who were being quite reasonable.

I wonder how many GOP victories it will take before these people learn.

an infinite amount, because antifa doesn't care whether the republicans or the democrats are in power. they hate both parties.
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