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htaeD posted...

though I still want to know why Han voted Puns and called him town later

Because, despite wanting to push on Shad, nothing was going to happen. Despite feeling that puns is Townish, I am willing to admit that sometimes my gut is wrong. I viewed both MI and Leo as Townish as well, and they feel confident enough that I'm trusting them with this direction for now. Also causes something to happen. More discussion only helps Town.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

What has Corrik done besides tunnel Chris?

Claimed miller in post 1.

Even his tunneling of Chris was piggybacking off of Red. "I agree" immediately turned into "Chris is clearly hiding because he's been caught already".

Corrik posted...

Chris likes to claim me as town as scum early to keep me off him then will a couple days later flip his read to scum.

This was pretty much the sole reasoning we got that was put forward by Corrik. And even so, it's anecdotal reasoning. Before this post, aside from just needling Chris, most of everything he talked about is game meta.

On page 9, he finally begins doing something else, which is talking to Zam. Interestingly...

profDEADPOOL posted...

##vote: Corrik

Zam is also scum when Corrik flips scum. Newb mistake to tag a scumbuddy to defend themself.

Setting up Zam from the very beginning.

That hits the end of topic 1. I want to continue this but I'm going climbing so I will when I get home.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Anyway, I know it was tomfoolery, but are we really ignoring that Nana said, matter-of-factly, that there is a Scum Janitor?

He is confirmable. Stop wasting time on comfirmable players.

We literally don't have the information to call him confirmable.

He shoots tonight and confirms or he is scum. It is pretty simple.

Him shooting doesn't confirm him as Town.

Yes it does. Scum doesn't have multiple town removing abilities. It also means he claimed and didn't fear being counter claimed. From a town claim.

You are out of the world. Nana is 100% town. Not a debate.

##Unvote: puns
##Vote: Corrik

We have no idea if there's a SK or not. Your certainty on this is very telling of your alignment.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Anyway, I know it was tomfoolery, but are we really ignoring that Nana said, matter-of-factly, that there is a Scum Janitor?

He is confirmable. Stop wasting time on comfirmable players.

We literally don't have the information to call him confirmable.

He shoots tonight and confirms or he is scum. It is pretty simple.

Him shooting doesn't confirm him as Town.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Anyway, I know it was tomfoolery, but are we really ignoring that Nana said, matter-of-factly, that there is a Scum Janitor?

He is confirmable. Stop wasting time on comfirmable players.

We literally don't have the information to call him confirmable.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Anyway, I know it was tomfoolery, but are we really ignoring that Nana said, matter-of-factly, that there is a Scum Janitor?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

RogueNoble posted...

It's okay, I was pretty blatantly telegraphing that I was day bulletproof, scientifically speaking

So what you're saying is...

I'm not confirmed to not be dayvig?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

htaeD posted...

I mean I never believed it

xD that backpedaling

My Immortal posted...

I'm more surprised that people thought you'd be willing to shoot Leo of all people

My thought throughout this whole thing was "I know MI knows it's a joke, why isn't he talking me out of this charade yet".

Thoughts on Nana possible Scumslip?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

htaeD posted...

I think Han is trying to prolong his life by insisting Nana cant be scum
really he should just have taken back his claim by now

I didn't expect anybody to actually take me seriously, but since Nana was willing to tumble, I figured I'd poke.

Still surprising that so many people believe infinite dayvig, that's a new one.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik posted...

Is that a stop?

Obviously not.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

RogueNoble posted...

I only sign up for mafia games because I hope to get a day vig shot one day

This is the motivation I was looking for.

##Dayvig: Leo
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Nanahara715 posted...

I considered that, but they also have a janitor, so who knows

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Nanahara715 posted...

No, You can reread my posts for the day, it's pretty clear I'm operating under the assumption Chris was janitorsed and the separation on the lists is flavor.

Yeah, but an assumption is different from knowing.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Nanahara715 posted...

My Immortal posted...

I'd have very little respect for a host who puts scum dayvig in the same game as town big. Wtf is scum supposed to do in that situation

I considered that, but they also have a janitor, so who knows

Is this a Scumslip?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Is Nana really bad enough to make that claim as Town?

I believe him.more than you. Why don't you shoot him and if he flips vig we can just lynch you.

Yeah, but does a Town Nana really go 'oh man I better spill the beans because I got this joker CAUGHT' or does a Scum Nana take advantage of the opportunity to make a vig claim, knowing that he is free to make that claim due to Scum RB being dead. And in the unlikely scenario that the Dayvig claim is TRUE, he's claiming Night Vig, so it's not a true counterclaim - Town could have both a night vig and dayvig, theoretically.

Only risk there is that he puts himself in the position to be shot if the dayvig claim were true, but that leads to the real question:

Would Town Nana actually believe my dayvig claim?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Is Nana really bad enough to make that claim as Town?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

foolm0r0n posted...

Maybe a good question to ask is: Who is NOT feeling a scum Turbo right now despite MI's posts and such?

Me. I've still got a Town read on puns.

htaeD posted...

uh
what I am doing is trying to get you to engage and be less silly
straight answers would help

also you cant really create a discussion if all you say is 'death is scum'

I do give answers! Not my fault people don't want to read them.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Alakazamtrainer posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

htaeD posted...

I cant take anything Han says as serious
and since he's gone into broken record mode, I am just gonna ignore the me-part of his posts

Thanks for claiming Scum for us!

To answer you though:

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Is Nana actually bad enough to make that claim as Town?

My thoughts are you need to full flavor claim, that wimpy excuse of a claim isn't help you much. Nana full flavor claimed to counter your claim. So again I ask would you care to full flavor claim.

I would care, yes.

htaeD posted...

also no wonder I missed that response
it wasnt even a direct response!

are you sticking with your claim then, Han?

Hey, I'm trying to cause discussion. If you were Town, you would engage in that instead of silliness.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I guarantee Death is Scum.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

htaeD posted...

I cant take anything Han says as serious
and since he's gone into broken record mode, I am just gonna ignore the me-part of his posts

Thanks for claiming Scum for us!

To answer you though:

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Is Nana actually bad enough to make that claim as Town?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Shaduln posted...

Why would scum dayvig han claim dayvig if he knew he could be countered by a normal vig?

Haven't even remotely caught up but this is what jumps out for now.

Shad, who do you want me to dayvig? ;)
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I did respond to Nana though. Did you even bother to read my post?

htaeD posted...

0h wait I mean Leo
not Han
Han was just quoting Leo talking about deadpool VS zam

also han, you're just being silly right now
even if I were to remember you operating heavily on gut (which I genuinely dont, so sorry?)
I couldnt presume you were always making statements based on gut, especially ones that directly quote stuff

and now it just sounds like you're reinforcing your viewpoint with an already biased viewpoint

Death is 100% Scum.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Alakazamtrainer posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

2. Because he's avoiding questions and not even answering those directed at him, he more content to offer fluffy content and observations then actually play the game.

What questions have I avoided answering?

Claiming, both Nana and my self want you to full claim given your tongue and cheek claim of dayvig

I did claim. Why are you asking redundant questions?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Death is likely Scum. He's played with me enough to know I operate heavily on gut. Expecting me to back up that statement on him is him pretending he's never played with me before.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Alakazamtrainer posted...

2. Because he's avoiding questions and not even answering those directed at him, he more content to offer fluffy content and observations then actually play the game.

What questions have I avoided answering?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

RogueNoble posted...

I don't understand the scum team that has Deadpool the roleblocker and Alakazam the ??? and decides it's better for Deadpool to die over Zam, Maybbbbbe super powerful jack that has an extra kill and some broken other ability? This is pretending they have a genuine hard-on for bussing and don't want to just vote Chris for some reason.

You seem to know a lot about the identities of people on Prof's lynch.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

It's a Scummy post. You look like Scum posting like that.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

xD xD

You're literally talking about the absolute SW corner of the state to the NE corner. That's like saying Pittsburgh is 1.5 miles away from Philly.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I don't think it's possible for Zam to look worse, short of power claiming anything on him.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

I still haven't seen a serious argument on you for why you're voting for Shad.

That is a decision you made. If you want to look at my arguments and say "they're not serious", then I can't help you. I've explained my position on Shad. If it helps, I'll even just toss in "gut". But I'm not going to convince you otherwise if you've already made the decision to ignore my arguments.

Is Nana actually bad enough to make that claim as Town?

htaeD posted...

and also note that I fully understand vigs not shooting night1
I wouldnt know who to shoot, thats for sure

This is a very Scummy post.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Cleveland is a far drive.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Uno ain't special.

Texas and infinity war.

Real answer though is come to Cincinnati

What is in Cincinnati?

Me.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Alakazamtrainer posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I'm not going to waste my dayvig on Arti. Yet.

##Unvote: Shad
##Vote: puns

I'm only doing this because I also have Town reads on MI and Leo.

Well now... care to claim? Or are we joking

Infinite Shot Day-Vig.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik posted...

I am not seriously interested in a shady Lynch tbqh at this moment.

How about in 2 hours?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I'm not going to waste my dayvig on Arti. Yet.

##Unvote: Shad
##Vote: puns

I'm only doing this because I also have Town reads on MI and Leo.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

My Immortal posted...

You remember town puns voting for an "interesting lynch" over who he thinks is scum?

I remember town puns as "doing dumb things" and this is kinda in line with that, yes. That said, if you ask reallllly nicely I might be persuaded to help out :)

Arti posted...

You're not seriously interested in pushing for a Shad lynch

Despite what I said earlier, I don't think Shad is scum right now

Arti is also Scum.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ScareChan posted...

Scum shad loves to park a vote on a scumbuddy and leave it there all day by the way. Shad is very likely scum

and I feel like the way Han went at him that Han is also scum

Except for the part where you're wrong about me, this is a really good post!

Crescent-Moon posted...

ScareChan posted...

Scum shad loves to park a vote on a scumbuddy and leave it there all day by the way. Shad is very likely scum

and I feel like the way Han went at him that Han is also scum

I don't feel like Han ever made a serious attempt to push a Shad lynch despite voting him twice.

I had no intention of pushing a Shad lynch the first time I voted him. The second time, I had all the intention but I was pretty much stonewalled by the people who were present.

I'd love to have gotten SOMETHING to happen in the last hour of D1, but meta seems to have shifted to "piddle around until deadline". Still, a dead Scum is a good result so I won't complain too much.

Zam is still a good avenue, but I feel we can put him off. Chris would want a Scept train right now and I don't mind pressuring him. Arti as well. Shad is Scum. FD has potential, but I have had like 3 Scum gut reads on him and 5 Town gut reads, so I've been hesitant because I tend to be more correct with my Town reads, so I think he's a wrong avenue to approach. Death has been floating by with little notice and that reminds me of all the times I've lackadaisically thrown him onto my Scummish list without pushing for him at all. Donker?

I'm not into the puns train. His attitude still very much feels like what I remember Town puns being like, and I trust my gut.

##Vote: Shad

I agree with Scare on Shad. The guy tends to stay pretty narrow in the scope of his game and tends to not overstep his bounds, and that's what I'm seeing here.

If one more person says I'm not seriously interested in pushing for a Shad lynch I will day vig them.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

UltimaterializerX posted...

HotDogButts posted...

is draymond still a good player

Yes. He's the true heart and soul of that team.

The soul of GS is kicking people in the nuts?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Belated congratulations, Para.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Uno ain't special.

Texas and infinity war.

Real answer though is come to Cincinnati
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I would've loved to see Boston do these playoffs with Kyrie.

Go Cavs.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Stop.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

The thing that bothers me about Han right now is he's never had his vote on Chris or Deadpool but he's had it on several other players. Even in the final 5 minutes he's trying to splinter.

Why would I ever have my vote on either one?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ScareChan posted...

has there been any claims in the last hour I wasnt able to catch up fully

Scept claimed Princess.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Go Cavs :V

##Unvote: Scept
##Vote: Prof

I'm not risking a tie just to have someone end Chris.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

##Unvote: Shad
##Vote: Scept

5 minutes let's do this!
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Ugh, red, don't tempt me.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Hey Scept are you around?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Shaduln posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

What are the options right now? Besides Zam, Chris, and prof? I don't feel particularly keen on pushing Nana, nor do I think we'll get anything out of that, but I'm the only other person at the moment who seems to be presenting any alternatives.

Sceptile is someone a few of us have brought up as well.

Hmm I do like that as an option.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

What are the options right now? Besides Zam, Chris, and prof? I don't feel particularly keen on pushing Nana, nor do I think we'll get anything out of that, but I'm the only other person at the moment who seems to be presenting any alternatives.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic