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Im_JustMe0129 posted...

I'm not going to stop taking conservative stances, nor will I stop being opposed to liberals.

Given the overlap between the two, you're gonna have to do one of those things.
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Im_JustMe0129 posted...

I take conservative stances because I am and will always be vehemently opposed to everything liberals want and stand for.

Then you shouldn't take conservative stances.
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Acab
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Tmk posted...

There's really no need to keep talking in hypotheticals. There's already a real historical example in this country of the government turning on its citizens, and it was allowed to happen. The second amendment's ability to "protect" from the government was tested, as was the American people as a whole, and they failed. Clearly all that the government needs to do to succeed is divide and conquer but no, I'm sure that could never happen these days right? Hard to imagine our country ever being divisive.

When you're right, you're right.
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*proceeds to justify every time a cop kills someone for one wrong move*
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XBAX
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Capn Circus posted...

Wow, there's a picture on the side bar of Trump riding a horse. He's damn talented at just about everything huh?

Why are you giving him a participation trophy for doing a very normal thing?
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"If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, take out your shotgun and pump them full of lead." - Jesus, probably.
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*looks at results*

Ah, CE
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She wasn't Octomom? My knowledge of brief pop culture people from the early 2010s (was that this decade?) is slipping
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These people are proud to be ignorant
https://twitter.com/emorwee/status/966771223899398145/photo/1
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Columbine was hardly the first school shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings_in_the_United_States
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mustachedmystic posted...

Must every fucking news sight have videos that start on their own?

They make money off of the ads that go in front of those videos.
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Doesn't seem optimal
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Rob Cesternino posted...

Antifar posted...

Relatedly, my sense is that African Americans are underrepresented at the highest levels of figure skating, which is also a geography thing.

Black people are overrepresented in basketball

Which is a different sport with lower cost barriers to entry. What point do you think you are making, exactly?
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https://theintercept.com/2018/02/22/emilys-list-laura-moser-texas-congress/
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UK edition
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/feb/21/home-office-contractors-cuffed-detained-migrants-inside-coach-on-fire

Immigration detainees whose coach caught fire as it took them to a deportation flight were handcuffed by escort staff before they were allowed to get off, in breach of Home Office rules, eight of the detainees have said.

In interviews with the Guardian, the detainees said that just minutes before the vehicle exploded and as fumes filled the cabin, one of the guards started handing out handcuffs to his colleagues.

After the cuffing process, which took several minutes, staff working for the Capita-owned security firm Tascor took the detainees off the bus, they said. They were instructed to stand about 40ft away on the M25 as the vehicle exploded.

Home Office rules say that restraint during transit could amount to degrading or inhuman treatment, in breach of the European convention on human rights, unless risk is properly assessed and the use of restraints fully justified.

The fire on the bus was widely reported last week, but the Guardian has learned that the passengers were a mix of refused asylum seekers and other migrants, being taken from Harmondsworth immigration removal centre for a flight to Pakistan.

There were 10 detainees onboard the coach. As well as the four quoted in this article, the Guardian was able to contact four others. Speaking by telephone in separate calls, all of them maintained that they had been handcuffed before they were allowed to leave the vehicle. The detainees said a security guard had stood at the entrance while they were restrained and the back of the vehicle was on fire.

They were handcuffing the detainees instead of leading us to safety, said Ali, one of the group. I feared for the lives of all the people on board.

A Capita spokesperson said it was factually inaccurate that when the fire was identified the individuals were then handcuffed.

Ali said that he had been told by security officers that the coach had been known to be leaking oil when it arrived at Harmondsworth. The bus was bound to its fate, he said. Three different officers have told me that oil was leaking from the back of the bus and there was a puddle of oil on the ground. They told me that managers here at Harmondsworth knew about it and they should have stopped us from getting on that bus, but they did not.

A spokesperson for Mitie, the outsourcing company that runs Harmondsworth, said that while a leak had been noticed it had not been clear whether it came from the vehicle that caught fire.

The detainees described panic and chaos on the coach. Faizal, a rejected asylum seeker who was also on the coach, told the Guardian: We couldnt breathe on the coach because of the fumes. People were screaming: Open the door, open the door. But they wouldnt.

The detailed picture of the fire supplied by detainees will be seen by critics of the immigration removal centre system as further evidence of inhumane practices after longstanding controversy over its operation. Human rights campaigners have frequently expressed concerns about the mistreatment of detainees across the system.

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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

What did he do?

Blackmailed a woman he was having an affair with, more or less.
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I'm now remembering how I lost one of my memory cards walking over to a friend's house and found it on someone's lawn like weeks later. Still worked, IIRC
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Given the total number of U.S. figure skaters, I don't think those examples are enough to make Asians over-represented. But if they are, my guess is that it stems from figure skating being more of an upper-class sport. Relatedly, my sense is that African Americans are underrepresented at the highest levels of figure skating, which is also a geography thing.
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https://nyti.ms/2CcuFWC

Federal investigators this month identified the largest cluster of advanced black lung cases ever officially recorded.

More than 400 coal miners frequenting three clinics in southwestern Virginia between 2013 and 2017 were found to have complicated black lung disease, an extreme form characterized by dense masses of scar tissue in the lungs.

The cluster, identified following an investigation by National Public Radio, adds to a growing body of evidence that a new black lung epidemic is emerging in central Appalachia, even as the Trump administration begins to review Obama-era coal dust limits.

The severity of the disease among miners at the Virginia clinics knocked us back on our heels, said David J. Blackley, an epidemiologist at the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, who led the research published in the Journal of the American Medical Association. It was equally troubling, he said, that nearly a quarter of the miners with complicated black lung disease had been on the job fewer than 20 years.

Across the coal belt in Kentucky, West Virginia, and Virginia, theres an unacceptably large number of younger miners who have end-stage disease and the only choice is to get a lung transplant or wait it out and die, Dr. Blackley said.

Scientists have linked the new wave of lung disease to miners breathing in more silica dust, the likely result of a decades-long shift toward mining thinner coal seams that require cutting into the surrounding rock. Silica dust from pulverized rock can damage lungs faster than coal dust alone.

Modern machinery, insufficient training for workers, and longer work hours may also contribute to increased dust exposure, experts say.

Black lung, a chronic disease caused by breathing in coal mine dust, declined precipitously between the early 1970s and late 1990s, following new health and safety rules put in place by the 1969 Coal Act. The legislation for the first time established airborne dust limits in coal mines and set up a health monitoring program for working miners, offering free chest x-rays every five years.

But by 2000, black lung was on the rise again. An advanced form of the disease, rarely seen in the mid-1990s, made an especially dramatic comeback.

The upward trend in severe black lung disease has been clear for some time, but what were really learning now is the magnitude of the problem, said Carl Werntz, an associate professor of occupational medicine at West Virginia University, who treats miners in Morgantown.

In addition to the Virginia cluster, Dr. Blackleys team previously found 60 miners with complicated black lung at a single clinic in eastern Kentucky. Overall, investigators have confirmed nearly 500 cases in just four clinics over the past four years. NPR, which began a wider survey of clinics in 2016, has unofficially recorded nearly 2,000 cases over a similar time period.

Those figures are far higher than the federal governments voluntary screening program for working miners, which recorded fewer than 100 cases of complicated black lung disease nationwide between 2011 and 2016. Researchers note that the true extent of black lung disease among current and former coal miners remains unclear.

To combat black lung disease, the Obama administration in 2014 issued a new coal dust rule. It lowered dust exposure limits for the first time in four decades, increased sampling frequency and required the use of real-time personal dust monitoring devices.

The rule was challenged by coal industry groups as costly and overly burdensome. A federal appeals court upheld it in 2016.

Last December, the Trump administration announced a retrospective review of the four-year-old regulation as part of a broader rule-cutting agenda, a move that alarmed mine safety advocates and medical experts.

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Solidarity
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http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article201629499.html

Gov. Eric Greitens was indicted Thursday afternoon by a St. Louis grand jury on felony invasion of privacy.

The charges stem from a 2015 affair and allegations that he threatened to release a nude photograph of the woman, taken while she was blindfolded and her hands were bound, if she ever spoke publicly about the affair.

St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner launched a criminal investigation of the allegations last month shortly after they become public.

As I have stated before, it is essential for residents of the City of St. Louis and our state to have confidence in their leaders, Gardner said in a statement. They must know that the Office of the Circuit Attorney will hold public officials accountable in the same manner as any other resident of our city. Both parties and the people of St. Louis deserve a thorough investigation of these allegations.

Greitens could not be immediately reached for comment.

The allegations against Greitens surfaced shortly after he delivered his annual State of the State address last month. The ex-husband of the woman with whom Greitens had an affair gave St. Louis TV station KMOV an audio recording of her confessing the affair and accusing Greitens of threatening to blackmail her.

The woman involved in the matter has not made a comment and has repeatedly declined to participate in any news articles. The confession was recorded without her knowledge by her ex-husband and released to the media without her consent.

Greitens hired the St. Louis law firm Dowd Bennett to represent him in the circuit attorneys criminal inquiry. In the last week, a former St. Louis circuit judge was added to his legal team, and Dowd Bennett hired a statehouse lobbyist who is employed by longtime GOP consultant Jeff Roes firm.

Last week, two investigators from the circuit attorneys office were dispatched to the Capitol to interview lawmakers. Before they left town they had talked to roughly two dozen legislators, including House Speaker Todd Richardson, a Poplar Bluff Republican, and Senate Majority Leader Mike Kehoe, a Jefferson City Republican.

The investigators, both of whom have FBI experience, were back in Jefferson City this week interviewing more lawmakers.

According to lawmakers who were interviewed, the questions focused on the conversations and interactions legislators had with the governor about the affair and alleged blackmail before and after the story went public.

The allegations facing Greitens have hung over the Capitol for weeks.

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Liberalism.txt
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Man it is so easy to become a big deal among conservatives

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/966772309804580864
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Yeah it had the handle, but you needed to pack controllers, cords, games, memory cards...
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Perhaps that market value was based on nothing to begin with
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MSNBC has quietly added a whole bunch of conservative talent over the past year. Like, Greta Van Susteran and Hugh Hewitt
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Hold on, let me get my tactical bag
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Sayoria posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Thrillwell posted...

This would immediately coin the phrase "pop the teacher" as before the students get mowed down, the teacher would be the very first target.

So either we arm the students, or we disguise the teachers as students so the shooter can't tell them apart

There's no perfect solution. There's only a "best solution".... and the best solution is to make sure all schools have a campus police. Even non-college schools.

I'm thinking about videos of security guards body slamming students and wondering if perhaps more police, while potentially deterring shooters, would create more day-to-day issues.
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I would argue that American society is less public with its politics than others. See the willingness of the French to take to the streets over changes in labor law, or Brits protesting tuition increases.
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Gotta say, I see flaws in a plan that relies on rational decision making from school shooters
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https://twitter.com/elainejgodfrey/status/966748913297448960
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TheGoldenEel posted...

stuff like this

This is very good
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I should note, given the...unique syntax of that quote, he might be suggesting that movies need a rating system.
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CruelBuffalo posted...

If the the multiple whites from the East Coast (Cuomo/Warren/Sanders) run they gonna split their own vote here

There's no reason for Cuomo to be in that group; nobody is choosing between him and Warren/Sanders. Also I don't think he'll make it to even an early California primary.
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Maybe we should have a rating system for video games, says Trump
https://twitter.com/GideonResnick/status/966738826742894592
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A reminder that Dana Loesch's day job is to do videos in the exact style of the Advent Leader from Xcom 2
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/921390510576562176

Given that she thinks media criticism constitutes "the most ruthless attack on a president in US history," I'm skeptical of her ability to gauge threats.
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https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/966733894753144833
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CruelBuffalo posted...

Since you keep trying to move the topic back on track, whats exactly wrong with the other candidate in Texas.

He's a healthcare executive at a time when the party base is clamoring for universal healthcare; even Schumer's endorsement refers to him using the right wing trope of "job creator." Furthermore, in a district that is 75% Hispanic, he is neither Hispanic nor from it.

Also, the optics of Schumer endorsing a guy who fundraises for Schumer is...not great.

Reaction from those on the ground has been negative:
https://twitter.com/TexasTribAbby/status/966363303126683650
https://twitter.com/latinovictoryus/status/966414449719627777
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To the popularity discussion:
1. Sanders' popularity has grown since early 2016
2. These polls are measuring the whole of the electorate, whereas Democratic primaries are conducted mostly among Democrats, who love Hillary Clinton even if no one else does.
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In NY, a candidate is obscuring his past work spying on left-wing groups and unions
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/22/patrick-ryan-congress-berico-dataminr/

PATRICK RYAN, A congressional candidate from New York, is leaning on his experience as a small business entrepreneur to establish his readiness for office, but he has curiously failed to mention the business he used to work in: domestic surveillance.

Seven years ago, Ryan, then working at a firm called Berico Technologies, compiled a plan to create a real-time surveillance operation of left-wing groups and labor unions, hoping business lobbyists would pay top dollar to monitor and disrupt the actions of activist groups across the country. At one point, the proposal included the idea to spy on the families of high-profile Democratic activists and plant fake documents with labor unions in a bid to discredit them.

The pitch, a joint venture with a now-defunct company called HBGary Federal and the Peter Thiel-backed company Palantir Technologies, however, crumbled in 2011 after it was exposed in a series of news reports.

Years later, Ryan pivoted to a startup called Dataminr, a data analytics company that provided social media monitoring solutions for law enforcement clients. Dataminr, which received financial support from the CIAs venture capital arm, produced real-time updates about activists for law enforcement. For example, according to documents obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union of California and reported by The Intercept for the first time, Dataminr helped track social media posts relating to Black Lives Matter.
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The candidate has the backing of some of the more conservative elements of the Democratic Party. His campaign has won financial support from The New Democrat Coalition PAC, a group that supports business-friendly Democrats for Congress. The PAC is hoping to dramatically expand the number of moderate and conservative-leaning Democrats on Capitol Hill next year and, along with the Blue Dog PAC, is working aggressively to counter more populist and progressive candidates running in Democratic primaries for the midterm elections. Ryan, who served as an Army intelligence officer in Iraq, also won support from Rep. Seth Moulton, D-Mass., who has helped raise cash and build political support for a group of veterans and mostly moderate Democrats running for office this year.

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Guys this was about 2018 candidates
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Biden sucks, though.
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Darkman124 posted...

Antifar posted...

socialists like Cory Booker and Andrew Cuomo

why the hell does cuomo continue to try to suck republican dick when this is his reward? why do any dems pursue any amount of bipartisanship at all?

A very good question.

Anyways, GORKA is going off
https://twitter.com/calebecarma/status/966701660331479040
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/21/politics/claudia-tenney-mass-shooter-democrats/index.html

Rep. Claudia Tenney, an upstate New York Republican who is up for re-election in one of the most competitive congressional districts in America, told a radio host in Albany that Democrats are more prone to be mass shooters.

Speaking to host Fred Dicker on WGDJ radio, Tenney was discussing the shooting in Parkland, Florida that left 17 people dead when she made the remark.

"It's interesting that so many of these people that commit the mass murders end up being Democrats," Tenney said. "But the media doesn't talk about that."

Tenney, who is an ardent supporter of the Second Amendment, was responding to a point made by Dicker that the majority of gun victims come from the inner cities, not in mass shootings.

Tenney said she supports taking a look at the federal background check system and argued that the shooting should not change the dynamics of the debate over gun control in her district which encompasses cities like Utica, Rome and Binghamton.

CNN followed up for clarification from her office and asked specifically what statistics she was referring to, and her campaign later issued a statement.

"I am fed up with the media and liberals attempting to politicize tragedies and demonize law-abiding gun owners and conservative Americans every time there is a horrible tragedy," Tenney said in the statement. "While we know the perpetrators of these atrocities have a wide variety of political views, my comments are in response to a question about the failure to prosecute illegal gun crime. I will continue to stand up for law-abiding citizens who are smeared by anti-gun liberal elitists."

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Arm the Chicago Teacher's Union
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In Texas, Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer has earned ire for backing his own donor, a healthcare executive, over a woman with more local support

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/02/21/senate-minority-leader-chuck-schumer-endorses-upstart-candidate-housto/

Schumer endorsed Tahir Javed, an outspoken healthcare executive, in the Democratic race for Texas' 29th District, Javed's campaign announced Wednesday. In a statement, Schumer said Washington needs leaders like Javed who "think outside the box."

"His record as a job creator, healthcare executive, and teacher give him the perfect mix of skills and experience to serve the district and Texas," Schumer said. "Hes been very helpful in electing Democrats across the country, and I am now proud to support him as part of a new generation of leaders we need in Washington."

Javed, a longtime Democratic fundraiser, has said he will "spend whatever it takes" to win against six other candidates in the Democratic primary. In the fourth quarter of last year, he reported loaning his campaign $400,000 on top of $201,000 raised from others.

Schumer's public support for Javed is at odds with the local and federal Democratic establishment, who have largely endorsed state Sen. Sylvia Garcia's bid for the seat. Garcia's supporters include several members of the Texas delegation, the powerhouse fundraising organization EMILY's List and Green himself, who is retiring after 25 years in office.

In Virginia, party insiders are backing a candidate who has twice voted for the Republican incumbent
http://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/government-politics/democrat-vying-to-challenge-gop-rep-scott-taylor-voted-for/article_744bf63e-7a57-5d88-b7e8-c13ef78ac041.html

Elaine Luria is one of the Democrats vying for the chance to challenge U.S. Rep. Scott Taylor, R-2nd.

She has the blessing of the party elite in Washington. One thing not on her rsum: She voted for Taylor in a Republican primary in 2016 and again in the November general election, when Taylor defeated Democrat Shaun Brown to win the seat.

Elaine doesnt make decisions just based on political party, her campaign manager said by email. Faced with the options on the ballot, she took a chance on fellow veteran Scott Taylor who promised to bring change and be something different, but he broke those promises.

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Coffeebeanz posted...

It wouldn't make sense to have a national holiday on a day where all government functions need to be operating even more consistently than normal.

All government functions? Plenty of schools are already closed on election day because they're used as polling sites.
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The topic title is incorrect, TC.

Other countries have fewer gun deaths
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