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BlueBoy675 posted...

That comment about due process kinda bothers me.

It should
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wait what https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/968948486568923136
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I will say that there are benefits to a president who has no beliefs

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/968944315883032577
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Didn't Bill Clinton pass an assault weapons ban?
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

ForestLogic posted...

Or is it some SJW trolling that Republican table next to them.

Bingo.

It is not.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/28/us/university-bake-sale-trnd/index.html
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Pleasantly surprised to see a punishment of this magnitude doled out here.
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Again, he was not Hispanic
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Paul's Boutique >> Ill Communication > Check Your Head > Hot Sauce Committee = Licensed to Ill > Hello Nasty >> To The 5 Boroughs
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There are people capable of separating their entertainment from the politics within. They don't go to music for politics any more than they go to Paul Ryan for music.

On this subject, Paul Ryan is a huge Rage Against the Machine fan.
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https://theintercept.com/2018/02/28/criminalization-of-debt-imprisonment-aclu-report/

ON CHRISTMAS EVE in 2013, an out-of-work welder named Rex Iverson was rushed to a Utah hospital. He survived, but was hit with a hefty bill for the ambulance ride. There is a widespread assumption that that indigent patients never have to pay emergency room bills they cant afford, and instead the cost is passed on to those with insurance.

But in fact, companies and municipalities pursue such debts aggressively. In Iversons case, the city operating the ambulance service won a $2,300 judgement against him in small claims court, but he had no wages to garnish. A judge issued a warrant for Iverson when he didnt return to court to discuss the unpaid debt.

We go to great lengths to never arrest anybody on these warrants, Box Elder County Chief Deputy Sheriff Dale Ward later said. But we make every effort to resolve the issues without making an arrest on a civil bench warrant. The reason we do that is we dont want to run a debtors prison. There is no reason for someone to be rotting in jail on a bad debt.

In January 2016, a deputy sheriff knocked on Iversons door and arrested him. The judge had set a $350 bail, which Iverson told jail officials he could not pay. Later the same day, Iverson, 45, was found dead in a holding cell, an all-too-common occurrence in American jails. An investigation determined that he had killed himself by ingesting strychnine poison.

The sheriffs office made every effort to keep Mr. Iverson out of jail in relation to warrants issued regarding this debt, Ward told The Intercept in a statement, noting that his office would not defy a court order. When the court issues a warrant for arrest we are obligated to serve that warrant as ordered, no matter what the underlying reason may be.

Iversons story is just one of many documented in a damning new report from the American Civil Liberties Union that finds that collectors ranging from federal student lenders, to third-party debt buyers, to utility and ambulance services routinely wield the threat of arrest to intimidate people into paying up.

Federal law outlawed debt prisons in 1833, but lenders, landlords and even gyms and other businesses have found a way to resurrect the Dickensian practice. With the aid of private collection agencies, they file millions of lawsuits in state and local courts each year, winning 95 percent of the time. If a defendant fails to appear at post-judgement hearings known as debtors examinations, collectors can seek a warrant for contempt of court even if the debtor didnt realize they were being sued.

In one case documented by the Baltimore Sun, an affiliate of Kushner Cos. the firm run by the family of Jared Kushner secured a warrant for a Baltimore bus driver and mother of three who had moved out of her apartment early after receiving a federal housing voucher. She said she never received a notice to appear, and eventually declared bankruptcy to avoid arrest.

A Pound of Flesh: the Criminalization of Private Debt, the ACLU report, sheds light for the first time on the frequency of modern-day debt imprisonment, estimating that courts are issuing tens of thousands of arrest warrants each year for debtors owing as little as $30. Forty-four states permit judges to issue these warrants, often known as body attachments, in civil cases.

This has been a largely invisible problem, because the people its happening to typically dont have lawyers and arent speaking out, says Jennifer Turner, a human rights researcher at ACLU. Many low-level courts have essentially become debt-collection mills.

One in three Americans has a debt thats been turned over to a private collection agency, and the ACLU found cases of warrants being issued over almost every kind of consumer debtpayday and auto loans, utility bills, even daycare fees.

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0atmealcreampie posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

racist

This is the first any of us have heard about this being racial motivated.

There's nothing to suggest racial motivation in the shooting, but this goes with other accounts that the dude was a huge racist.
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0atmealcreampie posted...

Wasn't the guy latino?

He was white, adopted by Hispanic parents who gave him their last name.
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https://apnews.com/0cf99a1721e14da19e45337161da1a13
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/968903039942881281
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Sean Connery
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https://apnews.com/0ac65e5bd91e41a99c306345544112eb/Bill-spurred-by-Nassar-case-concerns-Catholic-Church

A Michigan bill inspired by the Larry Nassar scandal that would retroactively extend the amount of time child victims of sexual abuse have to sue their abusers is drawing concerns from the Catholic Church, which has paid out billions of dollars to settle U.S. clergy abuse cases.

Michigan Catholic Conference spokesman David Maluchnik confirmed Tuesday that extending the statute of limitations is of concern to the churchs lobbying arm, but he withheld further comment until the bills impact could be fully reviewed. He said the group supports other parts of a 10-bill package introduced Monday, including a measure that would add more people to the list of those who must report suspected abuse to child protective services.

A state Senate panel quickly passed the bills later Tuesday, a day after Olympic gold medal-winning gymnast Jordyn Wieber and other Nassar accusers and victims helped unveil the legislation.

Currently, people who are sexually abused as children in Michigan generally have until their 19th birthdays to sue. Under the legislation , child victims abused in 1993 or later could sue until their 48th birthdays while those assaulted in adulthood would have 30 years to file a claim from the time of the abuse.

Past bills to give victims more access to the legal system have stalled in Michigan, partly because of opposition from the Catholic Conference. Advocates for change say giving victims just a year to sue after turning 18 protects child molesters because survivors often wait to report the abuse due to fear or because they repressed it.

The harsh reality is that in most cases, survivors of sexual assault are too deeply traumatized to be able to speak out and pursue justice until decades later, Rachael Denhollander, a Nassar victim, told members of the state Senate Judiciary Committee. She said the median ages for women and men to disclose abuse from childhood are 41 and 38 respectively.

This means that by the time a survivor is able to speak and to seek help, by the time justice could be done against their abuser, the avenues of justice both criminally and civilly have completely cut off and not because the evidence isnt there but because of a legal technicality.

In the mid-2000s, Michigan courts ruled that men who said they had been molested by priests decades earlier had waited too long to sue. The plaintiffs and victims rights advocates turned to the Republican-controlled Legislature for help, but the legislation died.

The Nassar scandal could lead to change, however, as both Republicans and Democrats are backing the new bills. Nassar, a Michigan State University sports physician who also worked for USA Gymnastics, pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 40 to 175 years in prison, on top of a 60-year federal term for possessing child pornography. Among his more than 250 accusers are several U.S. Olympians and the case has drawn worldwide attention.

It is unclear if the statute of limitations or others bills could be revised.

Republican Senate Majority Leader Arlan Meekhof said that the Catholic Church is concerned that the statute of limitations bill could open up other things that have been closed, and I think they have some valid concerns. He declined to say if he wants to amend the legislation, though.

It is unknown how many victims of sexual abuse would benefit from the measure, or the potential financial implications for the Catholic Church.

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Let's make schools more like airports
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what the hell is going on here
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Man, imagine if somebody gave Jared Kushner a role in the White House. What sort of moron would do that?
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Birthing would be weirder
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TheGrindery posted...

If she was driving properly and otherwise going the speed limit and staying in her own lane then the cop is far more responsible for what happened.

FWIW the mother wasn't driving the other vehicle
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Update: more furniture

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/27/ben-carson-spokesman-falsely-denied-expensive-table-bought?CMP=share_btn_tw

The US Department of Housing and Urban Development (Hud) has agreed to spend $165,000 on lounge furniture for its Washington headquarters, in addition to a $31,000 dining set purchased for housing secretary Ben Carsons office.

The revelations on Tuesday of Carsons expensive decor spending come as Donald Trumps administration has proposed a cut of $6.8bn to Huds annual budget, or roughly 14% of its total spending, which would lead to reductions in programs aimed at poor and homeless Americans.

Department officials signed a contract last September with an Indiana-based seller for the furniture, according to a federal procurement record.

Raffi Williams, a spokesman for Hud, said in an email Tuesday evening that further records on the lounge furniture contract were not immediately available.

Earlier on Tuesday it emerged that the department had agreed to spend $31,000 on a dining table and accompanying items for Carsons offices. Last week, Williams falsely denied to the Guardian that such a table had been bought.

Details of the furniture purchases were revealed after a senior career official at Hud alleged in a complaint to a federal watchdog that she was demoted after refusing to break a $5,000 spending limit for improvements to Carsons office.

Helen Foster said she was told $5,000 will not even buy a decent chair after informing her bosses that this was the legal price limit for improvements to Carsons suite of offices. Her complaint was filed to the office of special counsel (OSC).

Williams made false statements to the Guardian in emails last Friday while an article on Fosters claims was being prepared.

When it comes to the secretarys office, the only money HUD spent was $3,200 to put up new blinds in his office and the deputy secretarys office, Williams said in an email, declaring this information to be on background without prior agreement.

Asked to confirm, as the Guardian had been told by a source, that a new dining-room-style table was also purchased, Williams replied: Yeah, thats inaccurate. After news of Fosters complaint was followed by US media, Williams confirmed on Tuesday that $31,000 was in fact spent on a new dining set for Carsons offices.

A separate federal procurement record states that Hud agreed last December to pay $31,561 to Sebree And Associates, a Baltimore-based furniture seller. The contract is described as being for secretarys furniture.

Williams, 29, is a former spokesman for the Republican National Committee, where he served as a deputy to Sean Spicer, Trumps former White House press secretary. Williams is the son of the Fox News presenter Juan Williams.

When asked on Tuesday to explain his misleading statement, Williams falsely stated that he had been asked only about spending on improvements to Carsons office from what he called the decorating budget.

Thats what you were asking about, was the decorating budget, and no table was bought with the decorating budget, said Williams. He then claimed he had actually been unaware a table had even been bought. I walked over there and there was no new table there, so I did not know, he said. I did not find out until much later.

Williams then said that he had another phone call coming in and terminated the interview.

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Ayinger Celebrator
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/968585581499428865
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why
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Wow how is he going to solve Israel/Palestine now
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Probably just one I'm guessing
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Her turn was both good and morally correct
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/27/us/ben-carson-hud-furniture.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Department of Housing and Urban Development officials spent $31,000 on a new dining room set for Secretary Ben Carsons office in late 2017 just as the White House circulated its plans to slash HUDs programs for the homeless, elderly and poor, according to federal procurement records.

The purchase of the custom hardwood table, chairs and hutch came a month after a top agency staff member filed a whistle-blower complaint charging Mr. Carsons wife, Candy Carson, with pressuring department officials to find money for the expensive redecoration of his offices, even if it meant circumventing the law.

Mr. Carson is also facing questions on another front. Under pressure earlier this month, he requested that HUDs inspector general investigate his sons involvement in a department-sponsored listening tour of Baltimore last summer. Department lawyers had warned Mr. Carson that including Ben Carson Jr., an entrepreneur who does business with the federal government, could create a conflict of interest.

Mr. Carson didnt know the table had been purchased, but does not believe the cost was too steep and does not intend to return it, said Raffi Williams, a HUD spokesman.

In general, the secretary does want to be as fiscally prudent as possible with the taxpayers money, he added.

Department officials did not request approval from the House or Senate Appropriations Committees for the expenditure of $31,561, even though federal law requires congressional approval to furnish or redecorate the office of a department head if the cost exceeds $5,000.

Mr. Williams said department officials did not request congressional approval because the dining set served a building-wide need. The table is inside the secretarys 10th-floor office suite.

The decision was made by a career staffer who selected the company, Sebree and Associates, which is based in Mr. Carsons longtime hometown, Baltimore, from a list of preapproved federal contractors, Mr. Williams said.

Neither Mr. Carson nor his wife who expressed a strong interest in sprucing up the drab, wood-paneled, 1960s-era secretarys suite, according to several current and former department staff members requested that the 50-year-old table be replaced, Mr. Williams said.

But he had remarked how the previous table was covered in scratches, scuff marks and cracks. Mr. Williams emailed several pictures of the old table, which looks polished and not visibly scarred, during events held by Mr. Carsons predecessor, Julin Castro.

The new table, listed as household furniture in federal procurement documents, has not yet arrived.

About a month before it was ordered, Helen G. Foster, a former top HUD official, filed a complaint with the Office of Special Counsel, a federal whistle-blower agency, claiming that she had been demoted and transferred after resisting Mrs. Carsons attempts to get around the $5,000 redecoration law.

The pressure began in January 2017, before Mr. Carson was even confirmed, when HUDs interim secretary, Craig Clemmensen, told Mrs. Foster to help secure redecorating funds for Mrs. Carson, a frequent visitor to the departments Washington headquarters who serves as an informal adviser to her husband, the complaint said.

Mr. Clemmensen, acting on Mrs. Carsons behalf, told Mrs. Foster to find money to purchase better furniture for the office and he quipped that $5,000 will not even buy a decent chair, according to the complaint, which was reported by The Guardian newspaper.

Every Republican is enabling an administration whose chief concern is enriching themselves.
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I think it's perfectly fine to criticize those whose anti-media bullshit led to things like this
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#BREAKING: @WVGovernor announcing state will raise teachers' salaries 5%. Classes resume Thursday with tomorrow serving as a "cooling off" day.

https://twitter.com/PoloSandovalCNN/status/968626271751147521

Solidarity forever.
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Generally a bad idea to use the term lynching for... Something non-violent
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http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/375852-pence-says-abortion-will-end-in-us-in-our-time?__twitter_impression=true
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creativerealms posted...

Then I think you are using the wrong account as antifar is one of the more logical and clear minded liberals here and you forgot to switch to Mal-Fet.

I am a socialist, which not the same as a liberal.
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PoopPotato posted...

Un hired. I love it.

Firing didn't seem the right term for someone who never started working there
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My problem is less what he deems off limits (the the way he leaves open the possibility of publishing a Richard Spencer type if only they were more popular is noteworthy) than what he deems worthy of inclusion.
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creativerealms posted...

Uh the TC is a lib.

I am not
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I post more than any of these people
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https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/02/the-new-york-times-fired-my-doppelganger/554402/

I think if Id gotten to write for the Times as part of their editorial board, this might have been different. I might have been in a position to show how our media doppelgngers get invented, and how we can unwind them. It takes time and patience. It doesnt come from denying the doppelgngertheres nothing there to deny. I was accused of homophobia because of the in-group language I used with anons when I worked with them. [Antifar's note: She means calling people ***s] (Anons refers to people who identify as part of the activist collective Anonymous.) I was accused of racism for use of taboo language, mainly in a nine-year-old retweet in support of Obama. Intentions aside, it wasnt a great tweet, and I was probably overemotional when I retweeted it.

I was called a Nazi because of my friendship with the infamous neo-Nazi known on the internet as weevhis given name is Andrew Auernheimer; he helps run the anti-Semitic website The Daily Stormer. In my pacifism, I cant reject a friendship, even when a friend has taken such a horrifying path. [Antifar's note: There's gotta be a better way to practice pacifism, imo] I am not the judge of who is capable of improving as a person. This philosophy also requires me to confront him about his terrible beliefs and their terrible consequences. I have been doing this since before his brief time as a cause clbre in 2012I believe itd be hypocritical for me to turn away from this obligation. weev is just one of many terrible people Ive cared for in my life. I dont support what my terrible friend believes or does. But I strongly advocate for people with a good sense of themselves and their values to engage with their terrible friends, coworkers, and relatives, to lovingly confront them for as long as it takes, and it would be wrong to not do so myself. I had what I now see as the advantage of coming from a family of terrible people. This taught me that not everyone worthy of love is worthy of emulation. It also taught me that being given terrible ideas is not a destiny, and that intervention can change lives.

Not everyone believes loving engagement is the best way to fight evil beliefs, but it has a good track record. Not everyone is in a position to engage safely with racists, sexists, anti-Semites, and homophobes, but for those who are, its a powerful tool. Engagement is not the one true answer to the societal problems destabilizing America today, but there is no one true answer. The way forward is as multifarious and diverse as America is, and a method of nonviolent confrontation and accountability, arising from my pacifism, is what I can bring to helping my society.

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Very_Unreliable posted...

>immigrants

you mean illegal immigrants aka criminals...

Literally the first sentence says this includes people who are here legally. Do not post if you do not know what you're talking about.
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ThanksUglyGod posted...

This James Bennet guy seems to follow the idea that being liberal means you have to accept everybody's viewpoints and experiences no matter what.

Even he doesn't go that far, though. As pointed out, there are no Trump supporters on the op-ed page, no Sanders supporters even. His commitment to ideological diversity only goes so far as to allow Clinton supporters and Marco Rubio supporters.
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https://www.npr.org/2018/02/27/589096901/supreme-court-ruling-means-immigrants-can-continue-to-be-detained-indefinitely

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that immigrants, even those with permanent legal status and asylum seekers, do not have the right to periodic bond hearings.

It's a profound loss for those immigrants appealing what are sometimes indefinite detentions by the government. Many are held for long periods of time on average, 13 months after being picked up for things as minor as joyriding. Some are held even longer.

The case, Jennings v. Rodriguez, has implications for legal permanent residents the government wants to deport, because they committed crimes and asylum seekers who are awaiting a court date after turning themselves in at the border. Immigrant advocates contend that many of these immigrants have a right to be free on bail until their case is heard.

But the court wrote in its 5-3 opinion Tuesday, "Immigration officials are authorized to detain certain aliens in the course of immigration proceedings while they determine whether those aliens may be lawfully present in the country."

The majority opinion was penned by Justice Alito and joined by the court's conservatives. (Justice Kagan did not participate. She recused herself, stemming from work she had done as President Obama's solicitor general.)

The decision reversed a Ninth Circuit ruling and the court remanded it for the Ninth to reconsider the case. So this is not the last word and could come back to the high court.

Justice Breyer read from his dissent, a rare move for the court that indicates just how passionately he disagrees with the majority opinion.

"We need only recall the words of the Declaration of Independence," Breyer said, "in particular its insistence that all men and women have 'certain unalienable Rights,' and that among them is the right to 'Liberty.'"

He continued, calling the ruling "legal fiction."

"Whatever the fiction, would the Constitution leave the Government free to starve, beat, or lash those held within our boundaries?" Breyer argued. "If not, then, whatever the fiction, how can the Constitution authorize the Government to imprison arbitrarily those who, whatever we might pretend, are in reality right here in the United States?"

Breyer added, "No one can claim, nor since the time of slavery has anyone to my knowledge successfully claimed, that persons held within the United States are totally without constitutional protection."

The lead plaintiff in the case is a legal permanent resident, Alejandro Rodriguez, who came to the U.S. as a child and worked as a dental assistant. As a teenager, he was convicted for joyriding, and at 24, he pleaded guilty to misdemeanor possession of a controlled substance.

Rodriguez was detained for three years without the right to appear before a judge to ask for bond.

The American Civil Liberties Union took up Rodriguez' case. The civil-rights group filed a class action lawsuit and eventually won his release and the cancellation of his deportation order. Rodriguez remains in the United States.

The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the immigrant detainees and asylum seekers can't be detained indefinitely and that they have a right to a bond hearing every six months. The appellate court also held that, in order to hold these detainees, the government must show the immigrants would pose a danger or become a flight risk if set free.

The Obama administration appealed to the high court, insisting that Congress not the courts has the power to make immigration law and that the law allows the government to detain "criminal and terrorist aliens" as well as "aliens seeking admission to the United States."

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IIRC, the US has some pretty weak punishments for DUI in comparison to other countries. Like, even our legal limit is higher
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Balrog0 posted...

I'm not really sure what my big take away is supposed to be after reading that tbh

If I had to sum things up:

NYT staffers are chafing against editorial leadership, which is claiming "ideological openness" as justification for giving a platform for "provocative" conservatives to print bullshit. Editor James Bennet's explanations are often ad-hoc and don't mesh with his actions.
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http://thehill.com/regulation/energy-environment/375725-major-epa-reorganization-will-end-science-research-program

A federal environmental program that distributes grants to test the effects of chemical exposure on adults and children is being shuttered amidst a major organization consolidation at the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

The National Center for Environmental Research (NCER) will no longer exist following plans to combine three EPA offices, the agency confirmed to The Hill on Monday.

The program provides millions of dollars in grants each year.

Perhaps best known for its handling of fellowships that study the effects of chemicals on childrens health, the NCER will be dissolved and science staff serving there will be reassigned elsewhere within the department, the EPA said.

The merger will involve the EPAs Office of Administrative and Research Support, Office of Program Accountability and Resource Management, and the grants and contracts managed by the NCER to create a new Office of Resource Management.

Other EPA functions consolidated into the new office include the handling of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests, records management and budget formulation functions.

An EPA spokesperson said the extensive organizational changes are meant to create more efficiency within the agency.

EPAs Office of Research and Development is one of the worlds leading environmental and human health research organizations. In order to maintain the quality and focus of our research, senior leaders from the research and development office are proactively taking steps to create management efficiencies within the organization, the spokesperson said. These changes will help EPAs Office of Research and Development be more responsive to agency priorities and funding realities.

The White Houses fiscal 2018 and 2019 budgets both proposed zeroing out major programs under the NCER, but the cuts were not taken up in the most recent congressional budget.

An EPA spokesperson said that under the planned overhaul, employees currently working at the NCER will not be fired, but may have their positions altered.

At the appropriate time, the science staff currently in NCER will be redeployed to the [Office of Research and Development] labs/centers/offices matching their expertise to organizational needs. This reorganization could result in a change of positions or functions. Staff in the affected organizations will retain the grade and career ladder of their position of record, the spokesperson said.

The NCER is largely known for the funding it provides through its premiere program, Science To Achieve Results (STAR). Under the STAR program, grants are given to the Children's Environmental Health and Disease Prevention Research Centers, which were established in 1988 to discover methods to reduce children's health risks from environmental factors.

Those programs have been so successful in advancing our scientific understanding and our ability to address the ways that environmental chemicals can impact childrens health, said Tracey Woodruff, a former senior scientist and policy adviser at the EPA under the Clinton and Bush administrations. "The children centers were really the first and only centers to undercover the relationship with prenatal exposure to flame retardants and IQ deficiencies in children.
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A former EPA official who worked within the NCER said the loss of the STAR program would be harmful to both the EPA and national science.

"The program was designed to not provide direct benefits to the agency but to the public. Without the STAR grants program there is a loss of an environmental agency that will look at both environmental and human health issues and to exam environmental issues of the future," the source cautioned.

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Haven't seen any reviews from more major sites, but
http://www.useapotion.com/2018/02/gravel-review/ (okay, but nothing special)
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2018/02/27/gravel-review-dirty-racing-ps4/#/slide/1 (fun, but light on content)
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2018/02/27/gravel-review/ (Decent, but dull)
https://heavy.com/games/2018/02/gravel-review-xbox-one-ps4-pc/ (Enjoyable despite the presentation)
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Hyyr posted...

Antifar posted...

specialkid8 posted...

I long for the times when all movies were completely original and the thought of a sequel or adapting some other story were completely unheard of.

What times were those? Gone with the Wind and Wizard of Oz were the 30s

Gone With the Wind & Wizard of Oz are adaptations.

Yes, that's my point. There was no time when adapting some other story was "completely unheard of"
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