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DeathChicken posted...

And then Iron Man beats Hulk which on paper should be ridiculous, so none of these movies make sense on a rock paper scissor level

Man I'm still salty about that fight

Hulk is beatable by cutting to black apparently
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FFDragon posted...

Johnbobb posted...

Maybe I'm remembering Thor wrong, but isn't he basically a 2 without his hammer?

Guess we'll find out in Ragnarok!

(But considering it looks like he fights Hulk without it and survives, I'd say no)

I was talking about in the first Thor, when he gets cast down to Earth by Odin. Maybe having the hammer destroyed is different than being considered unworthy, but when he was considered unworthy in the original Thor, he was literally just a normal guy.
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Corrik posted...

Thor is a definite op hero. Maybe you could nerf him by saying he starts out unworthy to yield his hammer until upgraded and that he can only wield it once every whatever weeks when upgraded.

Maybe I'm remembering Thor wrong, but isn't he basically a 2 without his hammer?

Corrik posted...

I think the op 7s should be moved up go 8s or 9s and cost the appropriate upkeep/buydown/whatever to roster.

Well that's kind of why I was saying about having them take up more spots to roster. Or maybe even giving them a Lich King type passive, where they take up more spots if rostered away from their home terrain (in particular, I could see that working for Thor by having him weakened if he's not in Asgard)
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DeathChicken posted...

I maintain that Wolverine is way the hell overblown given all the times he's knocked out by relatively piddly things like guns

Also a generic Hand ninja kicks his ass in The Wolverine, that was pretty funny

Man that's kind of how I feel about Luke Cage after the Defenders (and it's why I dropped him a tier)

In Luke Cage, he's presented as this badass who takes on entire rooms of guys without breaking a sweat, including tanking a rocket launcher and a collapsing building.

In The Defenders, literally one punch from Elektra KOs him
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Still curious if there's any more suggestions as to how to deal with the 7/weeks. Nerf suggestions? Are there some that are too OP compared to others? (really the only complaints I've seen have been about Thor and Zod, not so much the giant monsters). Maybe make 7/weeks take 3 slots?

Also curious, on an unrelated note, who among the upper tier do you think could survive an Avada Kedavra (either with defense tactics or somehow tanking it)?
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I think that applies to all mercs in general

Some might have harder times technically dying than others, but if a merc is the last on their team and they're rendered unable to fight any longer, it's still a victory for the other team.
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Corrik posted...

Deadpool isn't even like killable based on his movie.

Honestly his regeneration is pretty slow in the film

like when he loses his hand it takes him at least 24 hours to regrow it

So I mean, if someone can like blow him up, or even just chop off his head and kick it off into the distance, I'd say he's pretty much KO'd as far as the match is concerned (even if technically he might be able to regrow himself a week later)
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Corrik posted...

Deadpool and Wolverine outright decimate most the field.

...No?

Deadpool loses to most 6/weeks, and Wolverine is fucked by any magic users or anyone that can keep him at a distance
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Corrik posted...

Johnbobb posted...

But what would your suggestions be as far as dealing with the power gap?

Ban all super heros probably.

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Johnbobb posted...

Superhero:
Colossus
Daredevil
Darkman
Deadpool
General Zod
Harley Quinn
Iceman
Juggernaut
Luke Cage
The Cape
The Joker
The Punisher
Thor
Wilson Fisk
Wolverine

Literally only Zod and Thor are 7/weeks out of those.

Do you mean just ban Zod and Thor? Are they that much worse than Cloverfield Monster or Gipsy Danger?
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But what would your suggestions be as far as dealing with the power gap?
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I mean, I just don't really agree with that. I think there are quite a few 6s that could do serious damage to the 7s individually, and I think a group of 3 6s could take down most 7s
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So rules I'm thinking if TV/Movie Mercs happens for real

1. Only one 7/week per team
2. No buy downs
3. Maybe make 7/weeks take up two spots even in high tier?
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ew I need to stop saying imo so much imo
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Lopen posted...

Neo I could at least humor that maybe were he were tied up in a battle with Agent Smith that John Wick could have an impact on that fight by landing some bullets on him while he's distracted.

I mean I don't know why you'd be rostering John Wick in high tier imo

like I do think 6/weeks could still hurt the 7s. Like seeing Thor trying to deal with a Stitch crawling on him would be hilarious imo

I DO think that in tv/movie mercs the power difference is big enough that high->mid paydowns probably shouldn't be a thing
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Lopen posted...

Dante vs Bayonetta is actually a lot more appealing to me. I feel like both of them have clearly defined strengths and weaknesses over the other despite both being ridiculous.

A lot of these high tier guys don't really feel like they're on a tier of strengths/weaknesses and it's sorta just a parameter off where you find the 7 who has slightly higher params than all the rest.

Thor vs a Powerpuff Girl is funny though.

I'd argue that's only potentially an issue with the 7/weeks though. Most of the 6/weeks are powerful but still have very clearly defined weaknesses (Stitch gets owned by water, Dumbledore/Voldemort are glass cannons, Eren Yeager is overwhelmed by groups, Wolverine has limited range and strength, etc.).

The only 6s I worry about ideally are Genos and Neo, who both tip a little too close to 7s
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Which gives the Powerpuff the upper hand!

Powerpuff clobbers him imo
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Lopen posted...

The more I read these merc suggestions the more I think the top of the power curve should be like the terminator. Basically stuff that you could imagine a peak human with the right resources available killing

I could not be less interested in discussing Thor vs General Zod

I mean I don't necessarily think it's less interesting than Dante v. Bayonetta

(personally, yeah, Zod v. Thor doesn't thrill me but I think Thor v. a Powerpuff Girl or Cloverfield Monster v. Gipsy Danger would be a lot of fun)
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DeathChicken posted...

Big shocker I'm responsible for 2/3rds of the horror mercs

That's kind of where I am with the American Animation mercs
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For the hell of it, organizing the characters by genre:

Action:
Dominic Toretto
El Blanco
Eric Draven
Indiana Jones
Jim West
John McClane
John Rambo
John Wick
Max
Paul Serone
Power Rangers
Predator
Rick Grimes
Tommy Oliver
Westley

American Animation:
Aang
Baman and Piderman
Beast Boy
Courage the Cowardly Dog
Danny Phantom
Ed, Edd n Eddy
EVE
Gaston
He Man
HIM
Samurai Jack
Jackie Chan
Jack Spicer
Jafar
Mr. Incredible
Mulan
Po
Powerpuff Girls
Rick Sanchez
Scrooge McDuck
Shrek
Static
Sterling Archer
Stitch
Syndrome
Toph Beifong

Anime:
Arataka Reigen
Ash's Pikachu
Blue Eyes White Dragon
Dark Magician
DIO
Eren Yeager
Genos
Guts
Joey Wheeler
Joseph Joestar
Lucy
Mikasa Ackerman
Mr. Satan
Mumen Rider
Natsuki Subaru
Puri-Puri Prisoner
Revy and Rock
Rika Furude
Sasuke Uchiha
Seto Kaiba
Usopp
Walter von Schenkopp
Yoshikage Kira
Yugi Mutou

Comedy:
Chuck Bartowski
Killer Rabbit
Orgazmo
Ralph Hinkley

Drama:
Dexter
Dr. Gregory House
Olivia Moore

Fantasy:
Albus Dumbledore
Big Man Japan
Daenerys and Drogon
Gregor Clegane
Jareth
Jon Snow
King Kong
Lord Voldemort
Tom Bombadil
Willow Ufgood

Horror:
Ash Williams
Carrie White
Chucky
Cujo
Erin
Ghostface
Hannibal Lecter
Happy Toyz Truck
Jacob Goodnight
Jason Voorhees
John Kramer
Mr. Babadook
Nix
Patrick Bateman
Pinhead
Samara Morgan
Stripe
The Birds
The Blair Witch
The Cloverfield Monster
The Creeper
The Facility Monsters
The Thing
Xenomorph

Martial Arts:
Ricky Ho
Sing
The Bride

Other:
Alton Brown
Grand Dad
Gunnery Sgt Hartman
Hulk Hogan
Joel, Mike, Crow and Tom Servo
Kool-Aid Man
Rocky Balboa
Samuel L. Jackson
The New Day

Sci-Fi:
Andrew Detmer
Demogorgon
Dr. Horrible
Emperor Palpatine
Gipsy Danger
Jobe
Mechagodzilla
Neo
R2-D2
Raptors
Sam Beckett
Sonny
T-800
Wikus van de Merwe

Superhero:
Colossus
Daredevil
Darkman
Deadpool
General Zod
Harley Quinn
Iceman
Juggernaut
Luke Cage
The Cape
The Joker
The Punisher
Thor
Wilson Fisk
Wolverine
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well I was about ready to close it yesterday but now we're already up to 39 nominations

so fuck it, 11 more and I'll go with those 50
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In the meantime:

Sanctuary - Kingdom Hearts 2

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I'm a little confused with this

Do video games typically even have ED? Like I'd imagine it'd just be the song that plays over the credits, which there wouldn't be a video for (unless you just want to watch credits scrolling)
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Robazoid posted...

Also how in the world was this not already included as one of the B8 memes?

Because I am forgetful

Also I'm surprised at some of the big snubs (and thankful at some of the others)
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Jack Spicer and Wuya (Xiaolin Showdown)
Villainous Male Human and Villainous Female Undead
4/week

Jack Spicer, boy genius, and Wuya are as they appear in Xiaolin Showdown. Jack Spicer comes equipped with his monkey staff, heli-bot, and [customization]. Wuya appears in her ghost form. She may not use magic, nor may she possess anyone. However, she may freely navigate the terrain and communicate with any of her teammates. In addition, they will be accompanied by [X] Jack-bots.

Abilities

Jack-bots, Attack! (Passive) - When rostered, Jack Spicer will be accompanied by X Jack-bots, where X is equal to the number of rostered enemies, including assists.

Customization - Jack Spicer may come to battle with two of the following Shen Gong Wu, in addition to his Monkey Staff.
-Changing Chopsticks
-Eye of Dashi
-Falcon's Eye
-Fist of Tebigong
-Jetbootsu
-Longi Kite
-Lotus Twister
-Serpent's Tail
-Silk Spitter
-Third-Arm Sash

Upgrades

Ability Upgrade:
Jack will be accompanied by an additional X Jack-bots. This upgrade may be taken multiple times.

Character Upgrade:
Jack may instead bring three Shen Gong Wu. In addition, the following options are added: Golden Tiger Claws, Ruby of Ramses, Shroud of Shadows, and Two Ton Tunic. The Golden Tiger Claws may only teleport to locations within the terrain.

New Ability:
Mala Mala Jong (Start of Battle) - Even Jack Spicer gets a win once in a while, and once every five weeks, he will manage to find the Heart of Jong during his battles. This week, he will use the Heart of Jong to bring in the feared Mala Mala Jong, a horrifying creature made up solely of Shen Gong Wu, as a free assist. Mala Mala Jong is classified as a Villainous Genderless Otherworldly, and Jack cannot use any of his customizations while Mala Mala Jong is active (Jack will still have his Monkey Staff and Jack-bots).

Mala Mala Jong is as he appears in his self-titled episode of Xiaolin Showdown. He is composed of the Helmet of Jong, Wushu Helmet, Two-Ton Tunic, Third-Arm Sash, Silk Spitter, Golden Tiger Claws, Fist of Tebigong, Jetbootsu, Shroud of Shadows, Longi Kite, Eye of Dashi and Ruby of Ramses.

Terrain

Jack Spicer's lab - A large laboratory full of scientific equipment. What any of it does is a mystery.

Part of me feels like he should have another starting ability, but I don't really think he needs it.
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trdl23 posted...

How does a Gorillaz live performance work?

They brought Vince Staples, Kilo Kish and a couple others with them. In addition to their songs, they fill in other parts (Staples did rapping in Clint Eastwood, Kish did 19-2000).

Other songs they'll have almost all of it live, with just a prerecorded audio track for guest parts
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yessss

saw Gorillaz live this summer; it was incredible

Did you listen to the regular album or the deluxe edition? If just the regular, I would really recommend listening to a couple tracks from the deluxe. The Apprentice and Ticker Tape are both excellent, and Out of Body is easily one of the best songs from the album as a whole.
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BetrayedTangy posted...

10

Best Batman villain

Write-in vote for Arya Stark

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mubp
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Honestly I prefer Save Mys where trading isn't a thing
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17. Beat a first-person shooter
Destiny 2
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thundersheep posted...

The issue with aiming for such a retro vibe is that the album feels very restricted in it’s use of different sounds, and while this definitely creates a good sense of cohesion, the album seems to lack range. This is especially true in the latter half where even higher energy songs like “Soothe My Soul” do little to differentiate themselves from what surrounds them.

While I get this perspective (and it seems to be the overall popular opinion on the album) I think it really works for me.

You mentioned Violator, which is a good comparison; Violator has the better hits and songs that standout from each other. However, I feel like Delta Machine feels more together as an album. It's best experienced as one full experience, and when doing so, I feel like I get more out of it than I do from Violator
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I'll wait until the Ultimate MVC:I comes out

and even then it'll be a maybe
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fursecution is my new favorite word
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Snake5555555555 posted...

He's okay conceptually as the representation of ultimate evil, but in actuality he's somewhat dull and boring.

This, but I'll actually go with 5.5
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So does everyone assume Smash Switch will basically just be like "Smash for Wii U + all DLC"?

like I doubt they'd put in the effort for a full game so soon
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oh shit there's a new NIN album? How did I miss that?
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Depeche Mode - Delta Machine
Gorillaz - Humanz
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man you people are weird

there's never not people outside in my neighborhood at 1am. Sometimes I'm one of them

Hell it's common for us to get horse and buggies going down the street at 2am where I live
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man I want that to be a legitimate Pallosand evolution


Snorlax
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trdl23 posted...

Yeah, kinda

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8. Mulan


7. Dug


6. Judy Hopps


5. Mickey Mouse


Not a fan of the SMDC contests (people take them WAAAAY too seriously imo; kind of kills the fun for me) but I do like drawing Disney characters so
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Gatarix posted...

5. Lumiere, who is either an eldritch abomination or not, depending on which reference pic you consult

gatarix you should absolutely start drawing disney characters as Bloodborne monsters
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hell yeah mermaid puss
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trdl23 posted...

Isn't Angriest Boy just a one-trick pony? It takes a lot more to develop true hatred.

My hatred for him was instant. It came from him being so horrifying and bizarre that I felt truly uneasy whenever he was on screen, in a way that no horror movie villain has really been able to do. His creepiness digs uncomfortable deep.
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Man, I really didn't think I'd end up rooting for one of my own nominations in THIS hunger games, but the only characters left that I know are him and Judy Hopps, and I'm not really hoping for Judy to win just by being the most tolerable.

So go World's Angriest Boy!
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not a picture but:

Yhwach
World's Angriest Boy in the World
Chi-Chi
Hitomi
Judy Hopps
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Holy fuuuuuck

Brandish got a rough deal there. Deserved it though

And Goddamnit World's Angriest Boy is finally showing why I found him so damn horrifying
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Drakeryn posted...

incoming disney dump:

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

I can now confirm that my theory earlier about Deathmatch ties being broken by who got the score first was wrong because I just got top 4 by getting 16 points and knocked the other guy who already had 16 down to 5th.

yeah I have no idea what breaks ties; because I've had people place above me with the same kills, less assists and more deaths
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