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EA has been garbage for years, and this is only the tip of Mt. Bullshit. Nice shilling, TC.
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Vyrulisse posted...

It's a total lie. If the "reward" was unlocking Iden then why not just unlock Iden?

Because they want to tie it into their progression system.
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Cobra1010 posted...

Thats a pretty neat excuse. You just cant beat those accountants and solicitors and masterminds EA hires.

It's all coldly calculated. I bet they even made their system designed to stress test how much we would put up with.
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This is my absolute favourite of the vids.
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I'm waiting until they release the games on PS4, along with Trails of Cold Steel 3 before I delve back into them.
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It's pretty decent for $5. I would definitely pick it up for that price.
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This response by EA is pretty calculated as well.

https://twitter.com/bearhe96/status/930221747445600256

TL;DR EA is effectively controlling the message by executing changes relatively soon after an outcry is produced to ensure that the outrage is over old problems. They're paying attention to the outrage and reception to everything on message boards and social media to see how much they can fine tune their adjustments for future games, while also ensuring that any media reporting on this will do their due diligence and report on the changes, without actually going to deep in behind the changes to see if they're actually affecting any change.

I mean, they have dialed back the most egregious stuff that people have complained about, but the progression is still the same. They're still getting the same amount of money, but the players are going to be getting a better sense of progression and reward out of it. Just lipstick on a pig at this point.
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I'm sorry, but if you have been charged for murder, or a serious offense like it, you should not be out on bail. That part's fucking garbage.
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rofl

They actually lowered the reward of credits you got for completing the main game in direct response to lowering the cost of the heroes themselves. I can't even be mad. They give with one hand and take with the other. Got to make sure you can't get one free hero.

https://www.vg247.com/2017/11/14/star-wars-battlefront-2-has-reduced-the-credits-awarded-for-finishing-the-campaign/
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Not bad for a series considered dead in the water some 5 years ago. I still need to play the new Hitman game, as I hear it's pretty good. Also, the series can't be any worse than the movie. >_>
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hulkhogan1 posted...

It's hilarious to me how much hate this game is getting without people giving it a chance.

People have been giving it a chance. There was an open beta, review copies, and now EA Access, where people - actual, real people - have been playing it. The gameplay is solid, and people are actually having fun with it. The problem itself is tied specifically into the progression systems, which are designed to grind either your time or your will down. Also, it's EA, who should be getting exactly 0% of any 'benefit of the doubt'.
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Huh. Sanderson is supposed to be an awesome writer. I may have to check this out.
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KarmaMuffin posted...

Alucard188 posted...

Now instead of taking a full work week, it only takes approximately 10 hours to earn enough points to unlock a hero. Congrats.

The credit increase per match is now live and is effected by your performance. To say nothing of the campaign earning you credits by both playtime and milestones, arcade, challenges, etc.
So no, not really 10 hours. By the end of the week most hardcore gamers will have their class decked out and have the heroes unlocked, with the more casual crowd having most of it by the time the next season comes out.

And again, only through massive backlash. So, they changed how you craft epic star cards, how you procure epic star cards, how many points you earn per match, and how long it takes to unlock hero and villain characters to make it more consumer friendly. Boy, this game sure sounds shitty in its first iteration. It still sounds pretty shitty to me. The game is still rife with pay to win elements, and unlocking heroes/villains still uses the same currency as loot boxes. It's nice that they made it faster, but they've already spoiled any good will they had when they announced at E3 that all DLC would be free.
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KarmaMuffin posted...

As for "I spent my money already" arguments, why do you draw the line at heroes and not for other games with other unlocks? Fighters have had characters locked for a long time, FPSs have weapons/perks/etc. locked for like a decade, Mario Kart has had levels/characters/karts/etc. locked, etc.
Is it literally the credits part you take issue with? Lol

Because you don't buy a Star Wars game to be locked into playing Jar Jar Binks for x amount of hours. Remember when Kojima pulled that swerve with MGS2, and you ended up playing as Raiden for most of the game? There was a lot of hate for that game for that reason. They wanted to play as Snake, not random asshole. Also, all the heroes were unlocked in the first Battlefront.
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Ninja-Yatsu posted...

I wonder if they'll lower the DLC price and refund the people who paid for it.

There's no paid DLC for this game. They went the GTA Online model, where all future content updates are free. They want to engage as many people as possible for as long as possible, to heighten the chance that you'll pay for some loot boxes and shit.
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Back_Stabbath posted...

Ushiromiya posted...

whitelytning posted...

Have they said anything else publicly since?

Did anybody post ? I'm not about to scroll through this thread right now

https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/battlefront/battlefront-2/news/swbfii-changes-launch


NOPE FUCK EA RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

This is only the second time they've dialed back a massive fuck up with the core balance of the game, and it _still_ isn't as low as it was for reviewers when they got the game to review. Now instead of taking a full work week, it only takes approximately 10 hours to earn enough points to unlock a hero. Congrats.
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https://m.popkey.co/88908e/87wQl.gif
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MC_BatCommander posted...

But there will be free dlc maps lmfao

They at least understood that fragmenting your audience leads to lower retention of players. So, they made up for it in other ways.
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I preorder if it's a significant discount and a game I want to play.
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Nazanir posted...

Two_Dee posted...

I've spent $270 on League of Legends since 2012

That's hardly whaling, that's over a period of 5 years, which is 54 dollars a year, which comes down to less than 5 dollars per month.

I've spend about 250 dollars on Heroes of the Storm since 2014, but still I hardly doubt I'd be considered a whaler. It's a small percentage of players that are responsible for most of the income in a game.

League of Legends is a F2P game too. They get special license in these cases, because they don't have an upfront barrier of entry. It's only when you play the game do you see the true barrier. >_>
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Dustin1280 posted...

RE_expert44 posted...

They also did this dame shit with mass effect andromeda multiplayer. Which killed it for me. They added in literally thousands of junk weapons to the loot pool which would take you hundreds of hours of dedicated playing to unlock. At the time when it came out I was playing the game white a bit with a friend and figured to just unlock all of the bronze characters, guns and weapon mods, it would take nearly 50 hours. For silver, at least another 200 and gold about 3 to 400. As for the ultra rates, god only knows. They didn't have a pack at the time. It was a mess.

Uh yeah... I made a tracker for that when I was playing the MP
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F2EYGlwk_WLIOGEuykqOLOsS2temRURy-FkHhL8oyNw/edit#gid=675772643
I pretty much stopped updating when they released human juggernaut

It insane, and they literally ignored all of our pleas and ran the MP to the ground.

When you have to make a spreadsheet to track this bullshit, then you know the game isn't worth playing.
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josifrees posted...

What I dont get is the whales have shown time and time again that they will spend money on anything whether it is cosmetic or not. So basically there is no need to bring in pay to win if you arent trying to alienate your fan base

Companies aren't content with merely making money - they want _all_ of the money. It's why we saw so many companies attempting to ape CoD last gen, because CoD was making piles of money. They ape whatever is popular, and right now, Overwatch's fuckery is what's king. It's what drove Visceral's game to the ground. It's what's driving BFII. It's what's driving Destiny 2. It's what's going to happen with Bioware's new Destiny clone.
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Anteaterking posted...

Alucard188 posted...

The term "Whale" was cooked up by gaming execs at a conference

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_roller

Yes, which has been adapted to the gaming industry by execs at a conference. Ironic that they're referring to their customers in the same vein as actual gamblers, yet refuse to term their game's mechanics as anything but gambling.
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@Asherlee10

The term "Whale" was cooked up by gaming execs at a conference when talking about how much money their games make off of microtransactions. It rose to prominence in the early 2010s with the rise of mobile gaming. They currently class us into 3 categories: Whales (heaviest spenders), Dolphins (medium spenders), and Minnows (barely spend anything) Here's an article on it:

https://venturebeat.com/2013/03/14/whales-and-why-social-gamers-are-just-gamers/

Basically, think of 'whales' ostensibly in the same vein as the 1% that control 98% of the wealth, fundamentally speaking. It's completely dehumanizing, and turns us all into basic cattle for them to process and devour.
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GOATTHlEF posted...

It's not really their fault. Gambling is an insidious addiction and the gaming companies are preying off kids too young to know any better. It's the inattentive parents and the gaming companies that feed off them that are the ones that need the smackdown jirachi.

We're all just assuming it's the kids that are the problem here. There's a problem with having gambling elements in a game that's accessible to kids, but it's the fuckos with the actual disposable income that are the problem here; the kids with well-off parents included. This thing reeks of when they were selling candies and chocolate back in the 80s that replicated the idea of smoking. Those were banned en masse. These need to meet a similar fate.
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

It's really not. Asking if you'd have sex with someone implies vaginal.

Implied, AKA vague.
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

DarkChozoGhost posted...

It is no less vague than asking "Would you have sex with this girl?"

Terminology is key in vagueness. The wording he used isn't vague. It's not a hard concept to grasp. "Would you have sex with this girl?" is a fundamentally different question than asking if you would perform cunnilingus on her.
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

It's incredibly vague, you're full of shit alucard. It simply asked if you perform a certain sex act. No descriptions of sensations or details. It is no less vague than asking "Would you have sex with this girl?"

It's as vague as running your car into a lamp post.
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Dustin1280 posted...

For the record TC, I have seen far more explicit topics on numerous occasions not get modded.

I am on your side on this one and usually, I am NOT.

It's all a matter of what gets marked, and what we see. If no one marks the explicit posts, then the likelihood of us seeing them diminishes. That doesn't make them OK to post in the first place.

ManLink4321 posted...

The fourth word can mean multiple different things to many here. Yes, it was vague because no one knew what I was even talking about.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/jack-tripper.gif
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ManLink4321 posted...

It was vague.

"Do you eat pussy?".

That is not vague. At all. Come on, man.
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Didn't they also nerf one of the supercar's stats and essentially release a new supercar with the same stats as the old one, but for a higher price point? @Tmk
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Links to images or videos containing pornography, nudity of any kind, or sexualized minors (i.e. "jailbait").
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What part of your question fits the bill of "keep it vague"?
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Admiral, why do you have a correct opinion on something?

This baffles me completely

Remember when we used to only hate people for their incorrect gaming opinions and griefing tactics?
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The Admiral posted...

This is great and all, but it's just going to make gamers be the ones to look stupid when this still ends up being the best selling game of the year.

Honestly, this kind of shit is pretty much what pushed me out of modern gaming. Anything that requires Origin, has loot boxes, or has micro-transactions for stuff beyond trivial skins is an immediate no-buy for me. This has ended up shifting my focus to indie games on Steam, and I've found those to be more fun than most AAA titles anyway.

This was a game that was on my list since I really enjoyed the 2005 BF, but this bullshit is a basically a non-starter. There are plenty of other amazing games sitting in my library, so not a tremendous loss, IMO.

Yeah, I had no plans of buying this game either. I typically don't buy anything attached to EA at this point. The last game they released that I actually thought was worth the time was Dragon Age Inquisition, and even then, you could see the trappings of a pay-to-win economy in the game (upgradeable individual parts for gear, a time system attached to the war table, etc.). It doesn't bode well for future titles unless this stops.
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https://www.pcworld.com/article/3236057/gaming/need-for-speed-payback-review.html

TL;DR So basically, if you want to be good at the racing game, and actually have fun with it, then you grind old races for new cards, buy them from an overpriced shop, expend multiple old cards for a "chance" at a new card you want, or buy loot crates. Also, if the derelict cars in NFS are anything like Forza's derelicts, then they have the potential to be the best cars in the game, but start off as absolute junkers. The worst starting cars end up being the best. That's a _lot_ of space for speed cards and microtransactions to fill. Oh, and you can't use old cards on new cars, as the cards are tied to the car you earned them on. Want to use old cards to give your derelict a boost in performance? Too bad, fuck face. Gotta earn them on the car itself, or buy crates for them.

So at E3 Payback seemed like it was borrowing some of Horizons better ideas (some of which were likewise borrowed from earlier games) and I was fine with that. Horizon has Barn Finds, rusted out cars you can find in the open-world and bring back to your garage to restore. Well Payback has Derelicts. Horizon has extensive off-road areas? Yeah, Need for Speed can do that too. Payback is definitely Horizon inspired.

What I didnt expect was for it to feel almost as much like Ubisofts pseudo-MMO racer The Crew. The bad parts of The Crew.

Gone is the previous Need for Speeds focus on real-world racing with real-world cars modified by real-world parts. In Payback, cars are split into five largely arbitrary groupings of vehicles: Drag, Runner, Race, Drift, and Off-Road. I say largely arbitrary because most cars can be used with multiple kits, but only when you buy them for that kit. For example: I now own two Dodge Chargers, one ostensibly for drag racing and one for normal racing.

Thats not great, right? But it gets so much worse. See, Payback has a Destiny-style random loot system.

Normal racing games work like this: You race cars, you earn money, you use that money to either buy better cars or upgrade your current vehicle with new partsa more powerful engine, grippier tires, a lighter-weight frame, and so on. This is how Need for Speed has also worked for years now.

Not Payback! Payback ditches all of the under-the-hood tweaking entirely, replacing it instead with a totally incomprehensible Speed Card system. Each car has six Speed Card slots, which roughly equate to actual car partsBlock, ECU, Turbo, Exhaust, Gearbox, and Head.

Each race youre rewarded with a random Speed Card to put in one of these slots. Say you do a street race in Silver Rock a.k.a. faux-Vegas. After winning, youll get a new Speed Card for your car, maybe bumping its Block rating from a completely arbitrary 3 to a still-arbitrary-except-its-slightly-higher 4.

This is all then tallied up in ways that are again completely impenetrable to the player, and your car receives an overall rating. Lower-end cars have a rating of about 120. Fully-upgraded cars mostly top out at 300, with a handful of cars going up to 399.

As I said, its weirdly similar to The Crew. Except The Crew was a pseudo-MMORPG and Payback is decidedly not one. Its just monetized like an MMORPG.

Every race in Payback has a Recommended rating attached, where Recommended means If youre more than 25 or 30 points lower than this, dont even bother. And how do you get more Speed Cards? Well, you have a few options a) Run old races again and hope something good drops. b) Buy cards from the Tune-Up Shop for absurd prices, cutting into the same money youd rather use to buy actual cars. c) Trade in old cards for Speed Tokens, three of which can then be fed into a virtual slot machine (gambling upon gambling!) in the hopes it spits out a usable card. d) Get a bunch of Speed Tokens from loot boxes, and repeat Option C.

Oh, and did I mention Speed Cards cant be shared between cars? Because they cant. Even Speed Cards you arent using, ones that are just sitting in your inventory because you have better options available, are completely useless. You can sell them or trade them in for Tokens, but if you buy a new car it starts from scratch and you need to repeat any of the previous options to build up an entirely new set of Speed Cards.

In case you couldnt guess where this is going, loot boxes are the most reliable option for upgrading your cars, if only because theyre full of Tokens, and Tokens are the easiest/quickest path towards building a competent car. And to its credit Payback does spit free loot boxes out at the player at a decent rate, maybe two or three per hour if youre competent at arcade racers.

Oh, EA. Just can't help yourself, huh?
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@dummy420 posted...

@Alucard188 what happened with NBA 2k18? I keep seeing it brought up but don't know why.

Basically any sense of single player progression in its Be A Pro and Story modes were tied into bullshit microtransactions that you were pretty much forced into purchasing to derive any sort of self-satisfaction with the game. It's a negative feedback loop. To be good at the game, you need to have good stats. You gain good stats by being good at the game. The more good actions you complete in the game (dribbling, passing, shooting 3-pointers, etc.), the more XP you earned in a specific category. If your character doesn't have the stats to back up the actions, then you can't complete the actions with any reliable degree. That's the gist of what was wrong with the game at launch. I don't know how it is now, because I haven't been following it. It's still scummy bullshit that's tied to SINGLE PLAYER progression.

Steve Nick posted...

Just remember that even if you grind 40 hours to get Vader, that means you're passing up the chance to spend that same currency on Star Cards. Which are in game player bonuses. AKA p2w features. Those are gonna take hundreds upon hundreds of hours(or dollars) to grind up as well.

This exactly. Progression towards buying crates for cards and unlocking new heroes are tied together, and use the same currency. This is the worst part of it. You're spending up to 40 hours to unlock one thing, or you can boost one of the already freely available characters. It's bullshit of the highest order, and in no way should be accepted or encouraged.
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Funkydog posted...

Alucard188 posted...

And I'm hoping publishers push it far enough to where there's a significantly large backlash. We're already seeing it with Activision, what with the recent releases of NBA 2K 18, the reaction to the patents for incentivising microtransaction purchases, and in CoD: WW2. We saw a significant one for Forza 7, though the developers changed some of what made people pissed, and now this with Battlefront II.

I hope it does as well. I just think realistically more needs to be done than complain on reddit to achieve anything

Even nothing changes from this single event, more people will know about the problem now, thanks to a single comment becoming the MOST DOWNVOTED in Reddit's history. The more people that know, then there's the chance that more people will care.
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pres_madagascar posted...

A locked thread with the most downvote comment on Reddit ever, that's still being downvote. About loot boxes lol. I expect Jim Sterling to talk about it, he couldn't not.

He may put a footnote in this week's episode, but the events surrounding everything Battlefront II only just came out. He might do a second Jimquisition this week about it, but this Monday's is effectively titled "year of the loot box".
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TheDarkCircle posted...

I'm not boycotting it per se but I'm not buying day one now either.

That whole thing of how long it takes to unlock a single hero character is insane. EA has come out and said they'll continue to adjust how many credits people can earn per each match to make it not so absurd. Let's see if they do.

That's really not good enough. All these guys are doing is taking microtransactions, loot boxes, and grinding as far as they can go until they receive significant backlash, then dial it back a bit so people are less upset with the product. It doesn't change the fact that they introduce this in the first place, and they're still moving the needle of acceptance further along the path towards their intended target. They're closer to the end than the beginning.
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Funkydog posted...

Alucard188 posted...

It has to start somewhere. The camel's back wasn't broken from just one piece of straw.

I agree it does. But I just see this being another example that ultimately ends up making them loads of money. People will complain, but many more will still buy it and fund it sadly.

And I'm hoping publishers push it far enough to where there's a significantly large backlash. We're already seeing it with Activision, what with the recent releases of NBA 2K 18, the reaction to the patents for incentivising microtransaction purchases, and in CoD: WW2. We saw a significant one for Forza 7, though the developers changed some of what made people pissed, and now this with Battlefront II.
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LJRENEGADE posted...

The online will probably suck anyway if its anything like GTA V's. It felt like the whole thing was built around getting you to buy shark cards.

Ding ding ding.
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Funkydog posted...

Pretty much.

Nothing is going to change when it continues to make them more and more money than ever before.

It has to start somewhere. The camel's back wasn't broken from just one piece of straw.

KarmaMuffin posted...

That being said, even if I'm wrong and it's a grindy BS mobile game type of thing, it's still one of the most fun non-competitive shooters I have ever played and it really does capture the essence of Star Wars atmosphere, and for that I'm still gonna play because it's a fucking blast.

That's the part that bothers a lot of people. It would be a fantastic game otherwise. It looks like it's a fun game. However, EA decided it needed to bullshit the game mechanics up with greedy microtransactions and horrible grindfests if you don't purchase them.

Also, review copies needed a significantly lower amount of time invested to unlock these Heroes. They change these values post review, or just gave the review copies lower numbers to mislead people. Of course, the canned response is "we want these people to enjoy the full experience and to give us valuable data as far as progressions concerned." Of course, now reviews are based on fraudulent data.

https://twitter.com/AllGamesDelta/status/930015037971890176
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MikeArmstrong posted...

Remember when some of you guys got fooled when they said all the DLC would be free. Fucking EA.

See, the most cynical of us knew it would be trying some bullshit. All the DLC is free like GTA Online's is free.
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I wonder if Burger King wants to sell me a sense of pride and accomplishment by making me work 10 hours for my fucking fries.

Fucking roasted.
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Mozza sticks need some marinara sauce to dip them in. Do you have any, TC?
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PiOverlord posted...

I had to defend my honor. The dweeb tried to make me look bad.

And now you look like a piece of overcooked beef jerky.
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coldshadowater posted...

Alucard188 posted...

I don't do them anymore because I can't justify the cost relative to how much I can actually eat. I also don't like feeling like I'm dying for the next 3 hours if I over-extend and eat too much.

how did your last one go?

I had a bowl of chili, a plate of salad, and a hot plate from the buffet. Hardly anything worth writing about. It was pretty tasty, though.
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Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx

PiOverlord posted...

Axiom posted...

He was wrong about off topic posting but your response was far more cringe and not even deserving of your self-proclamation of "rekt"

The guy insulted me. He played himself at the end.

He brought a match, and you brought a flamethrower to a competition to see who could light themselves on fire the fastest.
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Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx

You're proud of your actions in that topic, TC?
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Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx