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No offense Sultan, but I want to be careful here.

I had the same thought
But its risky
Maybe less so if we put Sultan himself up as the 2nd tie.

Also, that auto hammer power sounds like something you should have told us about ages ago.

Oh

Okay yeah no sense for Sultan to lie about this. Though I am surprised you said it.
Also scum cannot have 5 players at this point.

Why argue with FD so much about traits day1 tho?

And 3rd party probably wins with both scum and town, so you will forgive me if I cannot trust you anymore.
But I will say as a former independent, it does suck if its true that you are just independent with no wincondition.

@UltimateBrohan

First things first

Freddy Kruger

Bondrewd literally destroyed his own humanity, but he is still not malicious nor does he have evil plans or schemes going on.
Though I guess this could depend on whether you put more worth in a characters personality or their actions. Because Bondrewds done a disgusting lot of vile stuff and there is no being subjective about it.

Thats supposed to say time
Phoneposting sucks

Obellisk posted...

hey I'm here for a sec, not stalling at all, death.

Well I hope not.
Whats your tme schedule look like today?

That and yeah all protection is presumably outed at this point.
Cant ruin our defenses anymore.

On one hand I dont think he lynch today is gonna go to someone who hasnt claimed yet besides maybe Brohan
So we definitely should definitely get him back.
Corrik at least should complete his lynch
I think Red did claim Nilla/Miller already? But I may have gotten confused (can you blame me in this game?)

On the other hand I worry that one of Sbell and IGCD could be stalling. And whether we are at Mylo or one step away from Mylo, I dont think it makes today any worse for a massclaim.

What about Sultan?
(I know how I feel about him, but still)

Anyone even around?

Maybe votals can bring some life back into this topic.

[3]Ashe - Dumey, IGCD, Sultan
[1]Corrik - Wallz, (IGCD)
[1] Wallz - BCT

Skimming the topics again while working just reinforces my belief that BCT is town and that he is not pulling off some one for one fake counterclaim scam here.

On the other side, we could let Wallz prove his power. Though for all I know its just his scumpower.
I want to know what everyone else thinks.

Really dont want Brohan to get away with claiming last here

Right now my PoE has him, Red, IGCD, Ashe, one of Wallz or Corrik in it.

I am also not super sure about Sbell yet either, but his demeanor is oddly comfortably chill.

He said he was ninja both nights

Reddest thing he's said all game really

EDumey posted...

So Ashethan is claiming to be Quiet, which is ninja, on his Michael Myers night, not attached to his scan.

Then he is also claiming to be Mystic, which also happens to be ninja (despite BCT only being ninja half the time) while he's Mikaela. Wallz also has Mystic, but Wallz version of Mystic is just vanilla and nothing attached to it.

Please just lynch Ashethan. He does not have ninja on both roles as town. There are so many red flags at every part of his claim. Maybe my investigation isn't the damning evidence I thought it was if he is a scum ninja, but Ashethan should still be lynched even for everything else surrounding his existence.

I hate to make absolute meta statements when this game has been proven to be wacky already, but the endresult is still Ashe being probable scum.
Still I would like your input on the Wallz/Corrik/BCT trifecta

Leafeon13N posted...

If this random wiki google gave me is right there are only 34 playable killers in the game. Theres at least a couple OC lore characters at least to fill more flavor but without a safelist raw claiming a killer feels astronomically impossible.

Ironically if the host had waited a bit, he apparently could have included 36 killers.

Yeah others like me were wary of him right away pretty much. But then he took it back day3 and that just made him look worse.
Still am not sold on him being town of course. Corrik roleblocking him just means he could not have sent in the kill as scum, which is a reasonable assumption anyway since scum might fear that scumAshe would be watched closely somehow.

I never did get a Charizard card.

I stopped collecting by generation2, but I did order them by pokedex number. (except for sets like Teamrocket and Gymleaders)
Still have them in maps too.
Rarest card I got is probably Shining Gyarados
That or the Southern Islands set.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Hmmm what if scum is the reverse and Ashe ousted himself in his claim. Then realized of fuck towns the opposite of scum and changed it.

I think Ashe might just be caught and did a pretty damn good job trying to talk himself outta it

I thought that was already assumed?
Largely due to Bens flip stating the opponents team was called Kill Your Friends. And that was for his Survivor role.

Leafeon13N posted...

Like, if I have this wrong feel free to correct me this game is confusing enough to keep track of as is.

No the controversy was him stating he was a killer flavor day1 when almost everyone else was a survivor. (except you as far as we know, but you claimed miller anyway) Thats what he took back.

If Jones the Cat can be in the game, then I am sure we can also have something like a Resident Evil zombie dog somewhere.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Wait and you were a killer first then a survivor 2nd?

Thats the part he changed

Wallz' claim does give me another theory that maybe scum killed changmas because they believed he would not be protected? At least of the people who looked decently towny.

Obellisk posted...

Death explain why they can't exist on same nights.

Well okay technically they can. In the sense that their roles dont mechanically clash I believe.
But to me its almost the same as having 2 doctors on the same night
Less sure about how Wallz power clashes with Corriks claim since Corrik has kept his vague. But he said he was protection. Then again why believe Corrik.

(also I just realized why the host listed almost everyone's second name in the playerlist, it was foreshadowing for the flavor swap!)

Oh I think Brohan and IGCd havent claimed yet either.

That said I severely doubt BCT and Wallz's roles can exist on the same night.

Me
Maybe someone else?

Well that somehow clashes with both Corriks and BCTs claims at the same time now.

Now I wish you could have sametimed that with Wallz somehow, but its already pretty damning.

Thats a clearer parallel to Corriks claim as well

Not the claim I expected tho. I just assumed you'd tracked him or something.

Regardless, wallz should full claim

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Please explain why pointing this out to scum benefits town in any shape or form. I don't like this post at all.

Personally I dont know if we should worry about people rolefishing if a mass claim is coming

Scum fearing a 3p win condition?
Nah that would never happen...
...

I kid
But like I said I am not going to assume that we are at Mylo already.
If scum didnt have that extra kill through poison then 5 scum is what I would expect. Now I am not certain.

I am an idiot
I meant to say
night1 target
Since I dont think you told us about that action yet

Btw Corrik, your night3 target?

He said he didnt get his info until night3
He apparently targeted me night1 and nothing happened to me..
He targeted FD last night and got info on everything that happened to him.
Pretty strong power really. But again I dont think he can be lying about it.

Oh that explains that, Sultan.

Yeah I assume Ashe is probably not the poisoner.
Or else why pretend to be a ninja?

That said I thought Ashe claimed that he did switch and that he just lied about when he switched to survivor or killer. Its hard to keep track of his stories.

Didnt you?
TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Scum if he isn't we kill dumey and have 0 mislynches left. I mean would Scum go 1 for 1 on this I highly doubt it. They have pretty much 0 reason to

What makes you so sure we already dont have 0 mislynches left?

IfGodCouldDie posted...

You not specifically telling me to vote who you were on also left me with a bit of doubt

I felt just telling you to vote Ashe wouldn't have given me as much information as seeing what you would do with multiple options.
I thought both JC and Ashe were scum anyway, I just liked JC more as a player.

But in hindsight I shouldnt have made the Brohan joke, and in super hindsight I probably should have just been more forceful and focused you on Ashe.

Corrik7 posted...

The fact we haven't lost yet at mylo with the votes on me is interesting. Possible 4 scum with a 3rd party still.

Wallz is scum. But unless igcd is scum also, then there isn't 5 scum. Or we already would have lost. Unless they are wary of some day power or something to nullify their rush.

Or they just haven't lined the rush up yet.

Surprised you havent called me scum for it yet
Since I was asleep and all

Maybe Changs insistence that JC was town made scum think he had something?

Though JC also insisted that Ashe was town.

EDumey posted...

Death, why was Chang killed? Was he getting too close by being one of the only people willing to push for IGCD, and also had Brohan on his short list? It matches my PoE. I just can't think of many reasons why Chang was targeted there. It feels like scum narrowed the PoE on themselves with that kill.

Its either possible he was killed because he was that opposed to the JC lynch, or because he was on to someone.
And sure that sorta includes me since I was in his PoE for a long time. But I on the other hand dont think they killed chang to make me look worse lol.

Did it even help them during the 2008 crisis?

Hrm.

I wouldnt have minded so much if you hadnt said you would do it
Since I did leave you with multiple choices... which I mostly did because at the time I thought all 3 were potential scum and I wanted to see what you would do. That and I was too tired to think things through.

Your switch from Corrik to JC is in your nature perhaps, but very suspect nonetheless. Especially if Corrik is scum.
Though you probably dont need me to say that.

I mean a ninja without powers basically is a nilla. But it could lead to some interaction with other powers maybe.

Ehhh, I cant be sure if the host would rule a ninja power like that.
Someone else also had the 'unseen by actions' trait, right? Maybe they can shed more light on that?

I just want to be careful here since I have seen us get burned by assuming too much before.
(well okay the last time I wasnt on towns side, but you know what I mean)

At the very least I dont think you are lying since this sounds like an extremely hard role to fake.
Plus its not like Ashe earned much goodwill.

...I can infer what you mean by that, but I would like you to spell it out. Corrik.

Ninja?
*checks*
Oh right you did claim you had ninja traits as well.
I'd call it odd that Dumey forgot that, but so did I.

Still your role and Dumey's together for the same nights almost feels like too much scanning.

Well I trust Edumey way more than Ashethan so this seems like an obvious choice to me.

Ashethan being scum makes me think Brohan may not be? Then again Brohans vote on Ashe was the worst.
Btw IGCD why did you not vote Ashethan when you promised you would?

Avi Arad
Oh no

LightningStrikes posted...

Dutch elections be like what if proportional representation, but too much?

YOU GET A PARTY
YOU GET A PARTY
I am just gonna vote for my usual party thank you

LightningStrikes posted...

Tell us your thoughts on the upcoming Dutch election htaeD. It seems like it will be a big old ungovernable mess?

Always has been.