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Unsuprised_Pika posted...

I mean they are gonna do DLC expansions and probably do more cosmetics and bring back creation club.

"creation club"

I remember when that was called "modding." It was free, widely available, and did more than turn your sword blue.

How generous for Bethesda to change that

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Bro that's literally what Dende did. And he keeps upgrading them to improve their usefulness for that specific group of people. Goku legit went to New Namek to find Dende and ask him to make new Dragon Balls, and Dende said "hell yeah you guys saved us all, I'd love to help."

Which is dumb, given their origin and purpose. Like I said, it's just some dark/edgy fanfiction version of Dragon Ball where the dragon balls are actually a bad thing and wishing people back to life is considered a misuse of their power. Like bro, why do people want the dragon balls to have limits and drawbacks? They're literally what the story is named for.

Hardly. If anything, it was the natural progression of the story, considering Old Kai foreshadows exactly this throughout the second half of the Buu arc.

Remember when Deus Ex Mankind Divided tried to pull this crap with their "Augment Your Pre Order" nonsense, and got rightly raked over the coals so badly that they had to walk it back?

Hate how gamer complacency just keeps normalizing shitty practice after shitty practice

But they were indoctrinating kids into hating America

mehmeh1 posted...

wasn't there a scene in the 22nd budokai where they actually say he's gotten taller?

There's what they say, and then there's what's actually drawn.

He got thinner. That's it

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

He did not.

He got less pudgy and his limbs got better defined, to help the fights look better. But that's it.

Fun fact, the whole reason Toriyama aged him to an adult at all was for this same reason: if he was going to keep drawing better and better fights, he needed his protagonist to have adult sized limbs to work with.

Crazyman93 posted...

I don't have to draw the pistol into a firing stance to use it. That close I can clear the holster, turn my wrist, and pull the trigger, then I can start making space before the recover from the realization I just shot them in the gut

Ok clint

Gobstoppers12 posted...

People say this about GT, but I legitimately hate the story concepts, too. The only cool thing about GT is SSj4, and only because it looks kind of cool with the right context.

Everything else was bad.

I mean, you're entitled to that opinion, but personally I can't think of a better closer for the series than the shadow dragons, as a concept. Everything tying back to the dragonballs and how they were abused to avoid consequences is pretty damn cool.

Tge dragons themselves sucked ass, but thar goes back to the whole "execution" bit. He'll, with seven of them, it would have been nice to split them among the cast, to give everyone a proper send-off. Goku takes the big one, vegeta, Gohan, and Piccolo get one, gotenks, uub and pan, and maybe have the humans all gang up on one for one last hurrah.

Tbh that's the only bit I'll go to bat for. Pers9nally I hate Baby. but apparently a lot if people like him and his plot, even if they don't like the character himself, so I'm 8ncl7ding him for them.

...honestly, I hate the ssj4 design. And I realize that I'm basically the only one who does.

It is the perfect example of excellent story ideas being made awful by shitty writing.

Except episodes 1-13 and super 17. Those are the perfect examples of awful ideas being made even worse by shitty writing.

The animatronics look... exactly like their game counterparts.

And not in a good way. This is a live action flick, and they don't look at all like they're actually there. This is some Roger Rabbit shit.

Tyranthraxus posted...

I don't really get the Tueller drill stuff though. That seems to be measuring more like reaction speed? What if instead of a knife, the assailant in the drill also had a gun? Do you think he'd be more or less dangerous?

It would depend on whether they had already drawn.

The Tueller drill assumes the knife user already has the weapon out and is poised to strike. It's not just a reaction speed test, but a test of the time to complete the three actions of draw, aim, and fire. If the attacker was "poised" with a gun, suggesting they had already drawn and aimed, they would automatically win as all they have left is "fire." If they need to complete all three steps, it becomes a draw

Politicians are far away. They're removed from our day to day lives. Most people don't know even a local politician, much less anyone bigger.

Cops are everywhere. You can see a half dozen of them on your way to work any given morning. Even if you don't know them personally, there's something humanizing about them just existing in the same space as you.

Doesn't change the rot intrinsic to their system, though. Qualified immunity, gang-like loyalty, racist practices, and their roots that can be traced in a direct line back to the old slave catcher units. To say nothing of the police unions which, and I say this as a big supporter of workers unions in general, act with outright fear and contempt for the general population.

ScazarMeltex posted...

This always goes back to the Tueller drill. The only thing the katana changes is the added range over a knife.

Tueller found that the average healthy adult male, running with a knife or other contact weapon in hand, can cover a distance of seven yards in about 1.5 seconds the time it takes the average officer to draw a sidearm and place two hits center-mass on a man-size target 21 feet away.

It's been covered in dozens, if not hundreds of youtube video demonstrations (usually by someone with a airsoft gun). It was also covered in an episode of Mythbusters.

In the episode, At 20 ft (6.1 m), the gun-wielder was able to shoot the charging knife attacker just as he reached the shooter. At shorter distances the knife wielder was always able to stab prior to being shot. So the katana essentially adds a couple of feet.

The other advantage the katana has over the knife is if the wielder has Iai training (drawing and cutting as one action), which would mean they don't have to have their weapon already drawn when they begin their charge. So with Tueller's rule being 21 feet I'd place the katana at 23 to 24 feet. Any further, sword guy dies, any closer, gun guy dies.

Again, assuming the average Joe is as proficient as the average trained officer. Also assuming the best strategy is to just rush in a straight line

ModernPost posted...

Care to elaborate? Is that all you got?

I'll save you the trouble.

"Stalin and North Korea are bad, and that proves socialism doesn't work.

Neoconkers posted...

the fact that so many caveats have to be put in place for the sword-user to have a chance is telling.

I mean, it really depends how inexperienced and what state the gun is in to begin with. Like, not knowing how to take the safety off is something I can see if they've never touched a gun and start with the safety on

The problem is, they're realistic caveats.

People massively overestimate how effective some random guy whk's never held a gun before is gonna be if you just pluck him off the street and hand him a glock.

I have, in fact, seen none of those, and I intend to keep it that way, at least until I buy more bleach

Turbam posted...

What's actually pretty funny is that Elsa was supposed to be the antagonist of the story. Let it Go was written as a villain song. The song was too uplifting and inspiring for an antagonist, but was also too good to get rid of, so they made Elsa a hero instead.

I mean, with that melody, yeah.

That said, at its core, Girl Power aside it's still a song about watching the world burn (well, freeze) and not giving a shit because you're in it for yourself.

That said, I unironically consider Hakuna Matata to be a villain song, so...

100 year old tree. Shame, really. At least it went out in a blaze of glory.

Glad his wife and kids are OK. Fuck DeSantis and his mansion, though.

MisterPengy posted...

They fired a gun once 10 years ago, at a target.

What distance, and did they hit it?

Questionmarktarius posted...

No law has ever prevented crime. All the law can do is define punishments when you do it anyway.

Exactly. That's why it's still super easy to get an abortion in Texas and Ohio. The laws and regulations didn't actually stop anyone fro-

wait a minute.

Thisis an illustrative point. I am, in fact, very pro choice

Tyranthraxus posted...

Also being an expert with a katana offers no functional advantages here. You don't need to be an expert to hit someone with a sword. You only need to be an expert to parry, dodge, and know when it is safe to strike.

Against a gun man, you cannot parry or dodge, you can only hope they miss, consequently it is always "safe" to strike, because they cannot parry you and any retaliation isn't something you'd be able to defend against anyway.

I wouldn't necessarily say that; there IS technique to swinging a sword properly to actually cut; it isn't a lightsaber. Plus, just like a gun, aim is important.

In the hands of an amateur it's basically a baseball bat with a 50% chance of cutting. 25% chance if it's a katana

Lillymon posted...

All else being equal, and assuming we're talking about a modern firearm, the person with a gun. There's many good reason armies today use guns rather than swords. It requires a lot less skill and training to effectively use a gun than a sword and guns actually have, you know, range. You don't need to be right next to someone to kill them with a gun.

And yet they still have to train with the gun.

And all things ARENT equal, in this scenario.

Seriously, I defy you to go with any first timer to a range and watch them outright miss a clip's worth of shots at 10 yards, never mind landing a shot that would take a guy down

This isn't about overestimating the swordsman; it's about recognizing the deficits of the gunman.

The gun is the more effective weapon, hands down.

The issue is the person. It's not just "point and shoot." We'll, I mean, it is, but aim plays a lot bigger part than people are admitting. Does this "inexperienced person" know HOW to aim a gun? Are they using the sights, or just firing from the hip? The target is also moving, which is going to be difficult to deal with for a rank amateur, and the chances of them hitting an immediately-lethal shot are pretty low.

Basically, this person is spraying and praying. Which, if it's a shotgun or an automatic, great, they win easily. Anything else? Depends if they hit, and if so, where.

Also, how does the fight start? is the shooter already prepped, sights trained on the swordsman? Or do they have to draw and aim first? How will this amateur react to the gun firing? Will they flinch? Close their eyes? Panic or fail to compensate for recoil?

The gun clearly has the advantage, but like... its super easy for someone who doesn't know what they're doing to fuck it up.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

what fucking "firearm safety" lesson involves putting the barrel to a 4 year old's chest and pulling the trigger?

I must have missed that fucking lesson in the courses that I took.

Quezovercoatl posted...

Wait you can see the Pokemon?

Starting with sword/shield, you will see pokemon wandering the overworld. Battles start when you run up to them.

That said, the traditional tall grass still exists, and random encounters will still happen in it, as well. Though the random encounter rate has been turned way down, so you basically have to go out of your way for it. But there are exclusive pokemon that are only found that way, if you do.

Hellfire
Be Prepared
Friends on the Other Side
Night on Bald Mountain
Poor Unfortunate Souls
Gaston
Kidnap the Sandy Claws

In that order

not really. Nuzlockes are best when you already know the game pretty well. They encourage you to get creative and use mons you never would have otherwise.

They're perfectly fine if you go in blind, but you're already "in the dark" enough that it doesn't quite accomplish the same effect.

andel posted...

someone should ask the trump cult why he is stonewalling if he is innocent? usually innocent people invoke their right to a speedy trial but trump is trying to postpone it indefinitely

"because he knows the system is corrupt and will find him guilty even though he's innocent, so he's fighting against having to play a rigged game."

Or somesuch.

"Don't keep kids in cages," "don't set deadly barbed wire traps in the gulf" and "let's make it NOT nearly impossible to immigrate legally" does not translate to "pro illegal immigration."

WingsOfGood posted...

I am not the one. It is the writers.
Real world physics means if you blow up the moon it would have devastating effects which Toriyama doesn't write into the pages. Everyone goes on about their day like nothing happened.

When One Piece does stuff like that Oda tries to make it have lasting repercussions.

An example is from the latest manga chapter.
BIG CURRET ONE PIECE MANGA SPOILERS
An Island went kaboom. Did the world just go about their day like nothing happened? No. Apparently it caused shockwaves across the world and rising sea levels.

So a random Russian man beats goku because Crime and Punishment is more logically and consistently written.

WingsOfGood posted...

unless that has changed since the anime came out

Considering the anime ended years ago, the manga has not, and Toriyama has, from the very beginning, had far more hands-on-involvement with the manga, working directly with Toyotaro, as opposed to the anime which basically got rough outlines?

Yes, it's changed. Maybe we can revisit this when Moro, Granolah, and Black Frieza have anime counterparts.

WingsOfGood posted...

Not the win you think it is. Hakai is bound by rules like being stronger than the other guy, at least supposedly it is supposed to work with some sort of logic hahha.

Also having to go to the manga cause that don't happen in the show...smh. You kept mentioning the shows for the lava argument but that is separate canon. So why would you go to the manga now?

Did perhaps you find that show Goku lost to Luffy and you had to scramble? Yep. :D

:D

My brother in christ, the Frieza namek lava push happened in the manga.

YOU'RE the one sticking to anime with the "bulma made gpku wear a lava suit" crap.

And you're seriously going to suggest the guy vaporizing planets ISN'T stronger than luffy? I thought it was luffy's power set making him "unkillable" that won him the fight? now you're saying he's outright hitting harder?

WingsOfGood posted...

no I can

then Luffy would get right back up and kick Goku's butt

literally is part of the powerset I mentioned

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/7/AAOdzqAAEy17.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/8/AAOdzqAAEy18.jpg

So bot only does he not know what countries are in Asia, he also has no idea what the definition of "caucasian" is.

Brilliant mind, I tell ya

A_Good_Boy posted...

Don't even bother putting in effort with TC. He cherry picks the canon elements that help his argument and he refuses to acknowledge the existence of canon elements that complete tear his argument apart. WoG is a very obsessive guy and he's currently seething about DBZ just because it turns out Raditz is a lot stronger than he realized.

Oh, don't worry, I've gathered that much.

Regardless:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/7/AAOdzqAAEy17.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/8/AAOdzqAAEy18.jpg

Luffy has no answer to that.

Goku wins.

Doe posted...

Not totally following this lava argument but don't they shrug off magma in the new Broly movie or am I misremembering

Yeah but that doesn't count because it's devastating to his case

WingsOfGood posted...

yes there is a paradox. again read my post.
technically we are both right and we are both wrong

Toriyama wrote it some in one fight lava appears to not hurt them and in another it threatens their lives.
What this means is trying to bind this all in logical that can be easily explained and compared just can't work. But every DB fan does and every argument trying to make Goku seem like he wins uses that.

We've already agreed that it's inconsistent.

You're the one making the asinine claim that that definitively means Luffy wins by default.

WingsOfGood posted...

The lava thing is not a side gag. It is from an actual serious fight that is suppose to be a good moment where a worthy opponent is beaten.

Like the Frieza fight was?

As opposed to the totally-not-a-gag Magetta fight where he loses because vegeta trash talks him?

WingsOfGood posted...

Doesn't matter I have proven he can be hurt by it. Canonically he is hurt by lava.

I am sure it upsetting but we have no one to blame but Toriyama himself for this. And that was my point.

And luffy is regularly beaten to within an inch of his life by Nami.

So... Nami beats goku in a fight?

WingsOfGood posted...

actually I do

If someone claims Goku can survive lava I can legit canonically say that is false and they cannot deny it without erasing from their mind actual events from the series

You mean like the canon event where goku survives getting knocked into lava on Namek? Or the canon event where goku fights in lava against Broly?

Because you have no problem erasing THOSE moments from YOUR mind.

WingsOfGood posted...

glad someone admits it

but the difference is that while DB fails to provide a logical framework to measure their feats it is believed that is does and people try to argue with it logically as if that framework made sense

meanwhile

one piece actually does this really well in providing a logical framework to measure feats but outright declares none of it matters anyways cause Luffy's powers are just outright able to break it all in a cartoon way

so while you could argue Goku works by cartoon rules, that is only the failing of the writer and not narratively canon, he is supposed to be bound by some set of rules it is just those rules make no real sense when we scrutinize them

luffy on the other hand is deliberately declared as such and beyond the limits and bounds of the rules of his reality

further I would add this declaration of Luffy is not just canon statements by the characters and feats but visibly declared from a shift in the art style

So one piece is better written than dragonball. Neat.

So is Crime and Punishment, but that doesn't mean Raskolnikov is beating Goku in a fight. If you're gonna cherry pick the worst moments of downscaling, you don't get to whine when others cherrypick the biggest moments of upscaling.

ToadallyAwesome posted...

Which Hakai though? DBSs Hakai via Beerus is just straight up hax

And goku can do it.

He does it in the manga.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/7/AAOdzqAAEy17.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/8/AAOdzqAAEy18.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/9/AAOdzqAAEy19.jpg

WingsOfGood posted...

just in case people forgot:

But surely Magetta wasn't using normal lava right?
Or or maybe he spiked it with Ki or somethign right right?

Cue Goku having to wear a suit in Dragon Ball Super Episode 68 due to lava

So your point is that DB power scaling and feats are inconsistent?

Like how kid goku moved a small mountain in DB, but struggled with ten tons per limb in the buu arc?

Or how goku dropped Boss Rabbit on the moon in DB, but can't survive the vacuum of space for even a few seconds in Z?

People and attacks moving at near light speed in DB, but taking months to travel snake way in Z?

Ultimate Gohan being God level in the Tournament of Power, but getting bitchslapped by beerus in BoG?

Goku and Beerus vaporizing planets on the other end of the universe with just the Shockwave if their punches at the start of Super but never again?

An even stronger goku than that getting taken out by a ray gun weaker than Raditz?

It's almost like DB feats are all over the fucking place, with no rhyme or reason, and they're literally just as strong as they need to be to make a scene work. Kinda like... cartoon logic.

Also, fat buu out-luffys gear 5 luffy, who ends his life as a literal gum gum man, if you get my meaning.

Hakai.

Done.

Smallville posted...

do most of you consider musk a better businessman than trump? yeah only a very small percentage of billionaires grew up poor. Especially those that are actually businesspeople and not entertainers. Can you really think of any billionaires who fit this bill?

I consider him luckier than Trump. That's it.

Grew up rich from an apartheid emerald mine.

He and his brother each got 28k from their dad to start their first company.

Said first company got 300k from a mysterious "angel investor" that kept it afloat.

He got fired from that first company for gross incompetence, but made $12 million from the buyout, which he used to buy his way onto the board for X.com.

He got fired from X.com due to gross incompetence, including a massive data privacy leak, Personal Identifiable Information leak, as well as the name x.com, ironically (people thought it was a point site). But he again kept his shares, and so made $128 million when it rebranded to PayPal and sold to eBay.

He then used that money to buy Tesla. After it's product was already patented, and basically ready for market. He put his name on it and took the credit.

He then bought twitter and renamed it back to X.com, clearly having learned nothing. And he's again proven grossly incompetent.

Literally just a rich brat who has failed upward his entire career.

Intro2Logic posted...

Woodrow Wilson had people arrested for speaking against WWI, so I'd say his actions were pretty authoritarian

And FDR has Japanese people rounded up and put in internment camps, yet he's nowhere close to either

Latios

Fuck yeah

Zithers posted...

they always use an eastern european country instead of asian or african or latin country to avoid racism accusations i guess

No, it's because that's where roughly 95% of overly-pretentious, 4 hour long, arthouse schlock comes from

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Chaining 50+ lock-on missile combos will never not be fun.