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GranolaPanic posted...

Lauren Boebert said that gay couples kissing in public is inappropriate and a type of grooming children.

Shes in this video having her boyfriend grab her boobs while she gives him a hand job.

Its the hypocrisy on what she views as inappropriate and acceptable behavior around children.

I'm not arguing any of that, I've been quite clear.

GranAures posted...

No.

Only a handful are trying to argue that public indecency around children is no big deal and you should only be angry about the disruption and vaping, and then acting like everybody else is mad when they get called out.

Still not public indecency. Not on a moral level, and from the looks if it not legal either.

ooger posted...

Oh word?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/4/9/AAAEvVAAE2XR.png

What does "Previous Versions" mean

And as I'd said from the very start of my posting in here, I wasn't sure if that was correct there and was basing it on my understanding of local law.

I gave several opportunities for actual examples of the law and none of you were competent enough to provide, so I looked it uo, corrected myself, and from further reading found I might not have been wrong at all, and the question remains unclear.

spikethedevil posted...

You do know everyone can see when a post is edited and we can see the original post.

Yup, you can go back to my first posts in this topic where I explicitly said I wasn't sure of the law where it happened(tbqh at the time I didn't even know where it happened) and even asked for actual citations. I did assume I was right once some of the trolls refused to provide an actual law, but given I'm the only one that even posted anything about the actual law and its not clear if I was even wrong, you trying to call me on it is funny.

__aCEr__ posted...

To be honest the law does leave it unclear if that's considered indecent fondling if no genitals are actually exposed.

The vaping in the theater was definitely against the law, though.

I'd imagine it is, as is her refusal to leave.

And yeah, I couldn't find any clear source or examples, but I did find some suggestions that "no genitals were exposed" could be a valid defense.

Bahaha good

ooger posted...

No, that was an edit to your post as a backtrack.

No, it was the original post.

GranAures posted...

There's opinions and there's screaming that everybody else is wrong for calling it public indecency only for it to wind up actually being public indecency.

Guess which hill you've been dying on while still acting like everybody else has been wrong.

She still did nothing morally wrong and nobody has been able to definitively show its illegal. Since I've been in here I've been the only one competent enough to look up or interpret the law. So it's really funny to see you try and take the high ground.

And btw I said from the beginning I wasn't sure what the laws were there and was basing my understanding on local laws.

ooger posted...

Apparently not since...

It's ok that you can't move beyond being wrong, you'll grow up someday. Buy you're done in this discussion unless you find something new.

ooger posted...

Well, you'd have to know what the law is to have an opinion on it first, LOL.

Apparently I do better than you do as I was the only one able to look it up and cite it. And given the remaining question, it's still not clear if what she did was actually illegal.

asdf8562 posted...

It's so amusing when people use the word "objectively" and don't know what it means.

I know what it means and used it right.

Phoro posted...

This. All day THIS.

To be clear I 100% support calling her out for all of that, I'm only talking about the morality of the specific act.

GranAures posted...

So I see we are at "well the local laws say it is public indecency but I know better that the law."

Am I not allowed to have an opinion on public indecency laws?

Because by your logic it would be wrong there but would be perfectly fine if it were to haooen on my home.

He'll depending where it happened in my home she could've been groped topless in public and it's questionable if it would even be illegal.

I dont think groping alone shoukd ever be a crime no matter how public it is, unless you're specifically trying to call attention to it.

ooger posted...

But also

OKAY BUDDY

Yes we know you can't read. I've added additional context.

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I haven't said anything dumb.

She was wrong for disrupting the performance. The groping would've been wrong even without the rest because it could easily distract others and be a disruption on its own.

She was not wrong just because she was doing it outside her home, and shouldn't be facing any charges for that.

Same stance I've held since I came into the discussion. Only stance that has any logic behind it.

asdf8562 posted...

Lol to thinking you can't be upset by all of it. Especially that part about jerking your boyfriend in the middle of a crowded theater drawing attention to yourself with children around. Lol.

You can be upset all you want but when calling for criminal charges and sex offender status you are objectively wrong.

ooger posted...

Yes you just keep being wrong, that's fine.

Still not wrong.

ooger posted...

It sounds like you were wrong.

Actually that's not clear yet. The letter of the law doesn't necessarily say how it's used, and specifically from what I read I'm not clear if that point is meant to catch scenes like this, or meant to give an avenue to charge someone who is groping an exposed private.

But that's just getting into the technicality of the law which isn't as important as the fact this is a bunch of overly prudish people literally calling for criminal charges and sex offender status over what amounted to nothing more than disrupting a performance and refusing to leave.

GranolaPanic posted...

Its family friendly and you can clearly see children in the audience.

Still incredibly disingenuous to call it a kids show.

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Yes you just keep being angry, that's fine.

ooger posted...

oh word? are you a lawyer?

I'm capable of understanding laws at least in general. Remains to be seen if this would be considered a violation, but public indecency for Denver includes lewd groping, now I'm curious how many other states have the same.

spikethedevil posted...

It was sexual touching at a kids show, fuck off with the defending it.

It's not a kids show and while I'm against that behavior in a theater, it's still less bad than the rest of her behavior and you're overblowing it.

ooger posted...

So public indecency at a show for kids is okay?

This wasn't public indecency.

Edit: actually I'm wrong, it isn't where I live but is where it happened.

Still, shouldn't be and morally nothing was wrong with this beyond furthering the disruption shed already caused.

ooger posted...

uh huh.

So what is the "correct" level of outrage?

Exactly as it was when the story first broke. She got drunk, was a nuisance at a showing, got belligerent at staff, and refused to leave. That's what people should be upset with her over.

If you're more upset at this than the vaping your values are in the wrong place.

ooger posted...

That sure sounds like sticking up for her behaviour to me.

It isn't.

Will_VIII posted...

You're not worth the effort on this.

Nobody is worth doing something impossible.

C-zom posted...

I'm not reading this entire topic or watching a ten hour video, skipped around to saw the boobage roaming and some thigh slaps.

Did the security/team who talked to them 3-4 times and escort them out "catch" them in the act/get them in trouble, or was it an unrelated escort to get them out of there for some other reason? Neither party looked too bothered or worried when they got up and left.

Unrelated far as I've been able to see, initial reports were only of her and friends being loud and distracting, vaping, and refusing to leave.

ooger posted...

So, why are you sticking up for this kind of behaviour?

I'm not for this specific incident. I've said so repeatedly.

I'm saying the outrage over the groping is overblown, as evidenced by people seeming to not even know what happened like STM and others thinking it should qualify for sex offended registry. Not even would, which is it's own special kind of wrong, but should.

ADW posted...

So youre saying if they were doing this in a park and a cop passed by hed do nothing about it?

I'm saying it's not a crime legally(far as I'm aware still waiting on actual examples) and nothing would be wrong with it morally or ethically if they aren't trying to draw attention to it.

Will_VIII posted...

Right. It's really not this difficult.

Will_VIII posted...

Right. It's really not this difficult.

Well neith3 of you seem to come up with any example of over the clothes touching being a crime in public.

ooger posted...

Would you vote for her?

She doesn't seem very capable or smart.

I wouldn't have voted for her before.

hockeybub89 posted...

"If this was an entirely different scenario in a different location involving different people, it would be no big deal."

Stunning observation from Octillery.

Stunningly bad reading comprehension even for you two.

Pr are you just trolling because being mindlessly angry is all you have to do?

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As in "the only reason it's inappropriate at all is the close quarters, the act itself was extremely mild and not even worth noting in normal circumstances "

spikethedevil posted...

She committed an offence that would get you and me on the register.

Yeah you're gonna need to cite a law on that.

Will_VIII posted...

I think she should end up an RSO yeah

You think wrong and are being exceptionally ridiculous even for you.

Will_VIII posted...

This is why people think you're a caricature

Cry harder. Sorry if I'm more upset at their behavior that directly impacts the people around them, and at their refusal to leave and the general hypocrisy of it, than at some minor groping that didn't actually cause any harm and at worst was just done in too public of a place.

You're acting like she did some horrific act that shoukd be banned from public. The reality is the only reason this was bad at all was the close confines and that she'd been creating a nuisance in other ways, and if she'd done it in a park or something similar there'd have been zero issue and you'd have been told to mind your business rightfully so.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Camping would be extreme as fuck. Id be down but I dont see it ever happening for me.

i went to rock the bells a couple times and that shit was waaaaaay different than any of the punk/rock festivals. All rap was crazy. Not my music but definitely had fun

also saw holograms of easy e and odb so that was cool

When I say camping I don't mean deep woods or anything, when I saw Sabbath the extend of my camping was I slept in the truck bed on a mattress then walked to the concert.

Where do you sleep during a multi day festival?

Will_VIII posted...

How hard it must be to think to yourself "hey maybe I shouldn't act lewd in a public space with children"

How hard is it for you to understand I don't think it's ok? I don't think it's nearly as big a deal as you're making it out to be and I think her other behavior their was worse, but that doesn't mean I think it's ok.

asdf8562 posted...

Anyone claiming groping/jerking your date/husband/boyfriends dick in the middle of a crowded theater while also drawing attention to yourself, aren't reasonable people.

I dont think she was intending to call attention to herself, but thats a fair point. Drawing attention to yourself then doing it is VERY different.

DarthDemented posted...

I thought the first 4 X games were great. X5 was started the downward trend for me. I've never played beyond 6 so I can't fairly say anything beyond that point

This is the correct opinion

MICHALECOLE posted...

Multi day ones are a lot, you really gotta be okay with missing things and focusing on the things you wanna see. Going to aftershock soon and thats always a good time, though its mostly not my kinda music. Rancid will be there though

Yeah ar that point it's as much about the people as the bands. Especially if there's camping, I've had some great experiences. Actually had my first mimosa made for me by a neighbor while camping for Black Sabbath lol

MrMallard posted...

Despite running for eight games, Mega Man X is the poster boy for "games that peaked at the first entry".

Nah.

X4 >>>> X

KanWan posted...

As much as I love Queen, theyre overrated af tbh

Not to me. Something like 100 songs on my Playlist I could listen to at any point from Tham, way more than any other band.

I am sad I never got to go to a multi-day festival. I wouldn't want to now, too old and crotchety, but back in the day it would've been awesome.

If only I got any interestomg ones here in Oregon :(

Will_VIII posted...

This thread summed up:

Reasonable people: People shouldn't perform set acts on one another in a public place, especially if children are present.

Unreasonable (likely MAGAs) people: Well acktually...

Reasonable people are saying the groping wasn't a sex act and wasn't even the worst thing she did in the theater.

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Fair, I misread it.

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

I wonder if some of them will be conscripted and sent to fight for Ukraine.

They won't be.

Idk a single song from them but I once helped my friends put up big sheets saying Nofx at a local bullwinkles that could be seen from the freeway and they stayed uo for weeks

hockeybub89 posted...

It doesn't matter. She's a worthless hypocrite and she'd be the first calling to eject someone from Congress and have them arrested for sex crimes if they did this while Democrat. The Democrats need to start fighting back dirty.

People who are two-faced deserve to have their lives destroyed.

Nobody would get arrested for sex crimes for this

Trespassing charges maybe, idk the laws there.

As for getting her life destroyed though I'm on board. Didn't she kill her neighbors dog sometime back?

SoS is on gamepass and PS plus

Haven't played CE yet but I'm getting a huge hit of nostalgia, but also genuinely good writing and gameplay from SoS

Toonstrack posted...

No one on this board is having good sex.

And I'm including myself in that.

I am as are plenty of other married people.

Villain_S_Fiend posted...

Doing it in the theater (or other "risky" spots) is part of the fun for some folks. It's not just the presence of dicks and titties. Lighten up and have some fun with your sex. Unless you're asexual (no judgment there - totally cool), in which case just stay out of it.

And it can be extremely uncomfortable for the people around you. Don't do it.

CyricZ posted...

If Toonstrack is coming to your defense, rethink your position.

Stopped clock twice a day etc etc

Nothing I said should be particularly controversial. Over the clothes groping Luke they were doing in the theater is still inappropriate, but its hardly the worst thing they did there.