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Some things feel pointlessly added, but I'm still really enjoying the second season. Probably one of the best MCU things in a while. Can't wait for the last episode.

The_Popo posted...

So I have just been casually watching Loki season 2. I havent gone back and rewatched anything or watched any recaps.

As I watched episode 5, it dawned on me that I dont really understand why the timelines are even acting in this way in the first place. What is the cause for all of this even occurring again?

When HWR died, the single timeline started forming branches that couldn't be contained anymore fast enough, so it evolved into the multiverse.

Also they need to introduce Miles in the MCU already. I don't think Tom Holland will cut it for long. Doesn't seem he wants to continue too much.

That's fine, but there's only so many games you can make about swinging around NYC.

Time for a break and focusing on different Marvel IPs, but with the same love as Spider-Man.

I wonder if Larson will want to leave. She signed a 7 movie contract. That's a lot of movies.

Yeah, that after credits scene was goofy as fuck.

Hornezz posted...

The infinity stones weren't mention by name until the end credits of Thor 2, five and a half years after the MCU started. The Tesseract and Loki's staff appeared before but they weren't identified as such.

It worked retroactively to connect things. That when they were first revealed, one had already been part of 2 movies, then GotG had the third, and then later you found out that there were actually 2 in play with those 2 earlier movies.

And Kang doesn't have to be in every little thing. They can easily just use after credits in tons of different movies and shows to slowly build up more of his threat.

Yeah, for being called the Multiverse Saga, it's doing very little to bridge things as well as Kang. The Infinity Stones were very prevalent in the first 3 phases and we knew it was linked to Thanos.

Hornezz posted...

All this multiversal stuff is part of his story as much as the Infinity gems were part of Thanos'.

Three Kang variants already had significant roles in Loki s1, s2 and Ant-Man. Before Infinity War Thanos was only in end credit teasers, and a minor appearance in GotG. We were shown nothing about his backstory or his motives before IW. Kang has gotten more build up so far.

I don't really believe every new villain needs to one-up the one before to be interesting, but even then Kang is a threat on an entirely different level. Plus for obvious reasons, He Who Remains and Quantumania's Kang aren't the variants the Avengers will team up against. There's likely going to be a more threatening one, or a group of them.

I'm betting it's gonna be the Kang from Quantumania. They changed the ending a month before release. In the original, he escaped and trapped Scott and Hope.

Possible rumors are saying that the Quantumania Kang somehow gets the Beyonder's powers.

Punished_Blinx posted...

I do wonder if we're at the point where people aren't really interested in superheroes they haven't heard of before. Or at the very least the hook needs to be both unique and done well like Shang-Chi.

I think we're at the point that no one really cares about superheroes anymore. They had their time and did well, but it's time for a break.

The reason we're here now is because of too many random superheroes, not just from Disney, but Sony and DC as well. Eventually, the general audience can't really tell what's what. The MCU could have avoided some of this with a better and tighter build up along with an Avengers by now, but they just added to the burnout.

I expect Deadpool 3 to be the highest grossing superhero movie till probably the next Avengers.

angeleyes94 posted...

Ha gonna be fun seeing the chuds faces when this movie makes an easy billy it's Barbie all over again lol

Barbie was tracking extremely well before it opened.

This is tracking for a $300-$350 WW. That's not a flop, but a bomb.

Your post sounds completely detached from reality.

Lmao at people pointing to Texas like it affects anything when it's tracking to do worst than possibly the Flash and the Eternals, let alone Quantumania.

At this point, I would be surprised Kang Dynasty ever happens. There's no way they're doing a whole Avengers with him, let alone 2, and I'm not just referring to just Majors. Kang overall.

mazingetter posted...

Obviously, the comics are not the same. Doesn't change the fact that both the comics and MCU are part of the Marvel multiverse.

Officially, MCU is Earth-199999, as stated by Marvel and assigned in-universe by the Captain Britain Corps (comics) and the Spider-Society (Across the Spider-Verse). Christine Palmer of Illuminati's Earth in MoM and Loki TVA labeled MCU as "616" because they are seeing it from their perspective.

Seems like a lot of reaching if the MCU is one single timeline in the overall multiverse that includes the comics, and is now turning into it's own multiverse. Loki shows us the whole timeline and there are no attachment to anything else. So it's effectively completely removed from it.

And if such is the case, then all Spider-Verse universes technically sprung up after HWR. It would make no sense all these others know about the MCU timeline, yet it's supposed to be completely cut off and not even attached in any way. If they know about it, then all the other comic Kangs would too, which would ruin HWR's whole plan.

I mean, what you're saying is possible, but nothing seems explicit. Just speculation and filling in the blanks.

mazingetter posted...

MCU TVA jurisdiction is limited to the MCU and its variant timelines. They are concerned with preventing divergences from the Sacred Timeline (Earth-199999).

They are not the same as the prime TVA, who has jurisdiction over much of the Marvel multiverse and whose own He Who Remains is not a Kang variant. They monitor different realities to keep temporal disturbances to a minimum. Instead of abducting variants, they use Mobius clones and recruit candidates from across the multiverse.

I haven't seen any evidence in the actual MCU of this. The comics are not the same. Both Loki and The Multiverse of Madness state that the MCU timeline is 616.

mazingetter posted...

It seems the TVA is only aware of their own continuity and its branches. They don't seem to know that other universes exist (prime, Ultimate, etc.).

What makes you say this? It seems to be established that they deal with the entire multiverse, which didn't happen till HWR was killed.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

I'm saying that destroying Netflix was very far from their "only purpose." It provides an absolute shitload of advertising for Disney. The returns on that advertising might currently be failing to make up for the costs (even that's debatable as movie viewership is falling for other reasons too), at the end of the day Disney is talked about more. Their IPs are talked about more, and better recognized. That will help them in the long run

This is simply not true. People have started shitting on their IPs now because of their dumb decisions. People are not talking about it positively. The billions and billions they've lost is not debatable.

They entered the market to compete with Netflix. Their shows were doing fine when they were on Netflix, and they wanted the whole cut and fucked everything up.

Stop making lame excuses that this helped them somehow.

If this was remotely true, the 3 shows needed for The Marvels would have boosted the fuck out of it. Instead, it's tracking to be one of the biggest bombs ever.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

You're talking about streaming as if it exists in vacuum. I'd argue that Paramount, Comcast, and HBO are bigger competitors to Disney than Netflix overall

All of which are also doing bad and have not really affected each other. Netflix is the one that keeps exceeding expectations over all of them.

Netflix essentially has a monopoly at this point. Their whole purpose was to destroy the Netflix monopoly and they basically failed. Most of these will not be around in a few years.

TheOtherMike posted...

Because statistically the vast majority of people committing theft crimes are doing so because they have no other source of income. People are far more willing to risk going to jail to put food on their plates than to go "buy jewelry or billshit."

Source?

DarkChozoGhost posted...

Eh, even if it generally hurt the image people have of them and lowered expectations for future entries with their IPs, it helped the brand in other ways. They have a lot more exposure and presence in conversation. You also can't even begin to estimate how much it hurts their competitors, nor quantify how valuable that is for Disney. Overall it gives them more control over the industry.

It might have initially, but not anymore. I'm not even sure what they're commanding. Disney+ lost something like $6 billion in 2022. Netflix made $6 billion. That's a $12 billion difference. Netflix has a huge market share in all of the world's media nowadays. Disney is basically known for 4 things now outside their parks, all 4 of which are on the way down.

They've announced like a dozen Star Wars in the past couple of years, but none have taken off. The general audience is basically done with the MCU. Live action remakes are like 1 decent one out of every 6. And people just wait to watch any animated films on Disney+, which means it doesn't make any money on the platform.

It's not just Disney. They're just losing the most. Paramount+, Peacock and even Max are also not doing that great and have lost billions. They all sprang up to compete with Netflix and Netflix still kicked all their asses. They were so confident that they got rid of password sharing and did even better. Essentially, Disney did almost no damage to their biggest competitor.

Disney+ damaged the Disney brand. It diluted the MCU, Star Wars and live action remakes, and destroyed theatrical confidence in Pixar animations.

And for what? They haven't made a single penny off it yet. They've lost several billions since it started. It's a giant money sink.

Sounds like some Lord of the Rings shit.

Damn, Alison Bree and Alice Eve in one movie?

Seriously though, RT is highly misleading. This just means nobody gave it above a 7.

IMDB shows a 5.6. Which is what I would expect.

It will likely be canceled at this rate.

There's probably a bigger chance they just bring back Snipes for Secret Wars.

Antiyonder posted...

Thing is before Ghostbusters 2016, it seemed like those really strict for quality were less frequent and most movie goers were sometimes forgiving more often.

Another reason Bayformers is a favorite example of the contrary is that you had five of those movies while GB 2016 was dismissed and replaced with Afterlife which is either enjoyed or at least no so controversial.

Not saying that liking say the TF films while hating GB 2016 proves one has a shady reasoning for such. Just that you would have to make a good case.

The first 5 Transformers are definitely criticized, especially 3-5. 5 did relatively very poorly compared to the others, which is why Bay abandoned 6, 7, 8 and 9. 4 is also pretty bad, but there was a strong China push with it. None of these are as bad Ghostbusters and it's not even a competition. Especially with Wahlberg in the last 2.

Ghostbusters is a bad movie, even though I'll catch it here and there. The best part are the 4 main characters and their chemistry since they're all comedians. I also enjoy a lot of their other works. Everything else from the villain, to the absolutely cringy Chris Hemsworth, to the whole NYPD showdown at the end are absolute dog shit.

creativerealms posted...

Nobody characters is not an issue with the MCU. If the characters being pretty unknown equaled failure then the universe would have failed from the start.

Lmao, Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, Thor, Black Widow, Hawkeye and Ant-Man weren't unknown. They just weren't as popular as Spidey and the X-Men.

Regardless, like Zikten said, CM and Kamala are pretty major in the comics, yet nobody gives a fuck about their movie.

I hope Disney doesn't take the misogynistic route and blame it on racists and incels or whatever.

An opening as bad as the Flash and worse than Quantumania wouldn't be because a bunch of haters didn't show up. It's gonna show more that Endgame was the reason CM did well, and that the actual demand for her is extremely small to damn near non-existent.

It doesn't look bad. It looks pointless.

Trending to be one of the biggest bombs in a while. Might even open less than the Flash.

The MCU is basically on life support.

Glob posted...

How the fuck are you still saying that? I dont even have to pay rent. Take that as your brag. I dont care how much the rent costs. I didnt say you can find it in some areas. I said that you could find it where I live and have repeatedly conceded that youre not going to find that in the U.S.

Also, Im well aware of the cost of living crisis. Im from the UK, as I have repeatedly stated. My comment about not necessarily needing a second income were based on my time in the UK, which I also stated when I said that I only ever lived places that I could afford on my own, even when there was a second income, and I didnt start earning overly well until I left the country.

This is what you're not getting. Rents have exploded in the past year alone.

You simply don't have the experience of how bad it's gotten. To top it off, you get free rent, so your comments come off as even more stupid.

So, again your comments are irrelevant. Thank you for confirming that.

Glob posted...

You call me out of touch but basically admit to not wanting to acknowledge that theres a whole world outside your frame of reference.

At no point did I suggest that people should be moving to these places in Vietnam. Its not a brag. I dont live in one, as I already stated.

It was only ever a comment used to illustrate the truth of the fact that the cost of living varies dramatically based on where you live, a point which is still valid even if youre bigoted enough to believe that people shouldnt be mentioning countries other than yours.

My man, everybody knows there's places in the world that are dirt cheap. We're simply not talking about that because most of us don't live there.

This site is mostly people from the US, Canada, UK and Australia, with a small amount that's in other countries like Germany or Sweden and an even smaller amount from SEA or even Asia. Most of us are suffering an absolutely horrible housing crisis right now.

What me and others are saying is that the comments were meaningless. You talked about how it's not really necessary to have a second income, when post-pandemic rents are $1k to $1.5k in even the shittiest areas. Then followed it up with "you can find something for $350 in some areas" without even mentioning where. As if that meant anything but to brag.

Glob posted...

You want me to state where Im from? Or where Im living now? Happy to do both, and have talked about both extensively on here. To be honest, I thought you knew, given that you mentioned me living in SEA. Im from Bristol in the UK and live in Hanoi, Vietnam.

At no point was I suggesting that you take advantage of anything. You live wherever you want to live, of course. It doesnt really affect me. I was just stating that the cost of accommodation varies depending on where you live. While you wont find anything in places like the US for Vietnam prices, the variance between different areas of the US, or any western country really, is still significant, so my point still stands.

Im not suggesting everybody could just rent a place for $350. I know that many people will not have the means or the inclination to move to a different country, especially when mostly talking to Americans, as many of them never even leave their country. And I dont even have one of those $350 places myself, so Im not even implying that people should simply follow my lead. I feel like youve just inferred something that wasnt even there on my end to begin with and then taken offence to it.

I'm not offended. I'm appalled by how irrelevant your comments were.

It's like people discussing how crazy expensive a health care procedure is, and some guy going "depending on where you live, you can get that done for only $25"

And then it's revealed he's talking about Brazil or some shit where none of us live or will ever move to. Effectively useless input just trying to brag.

Own it instead of making poor excuses for your out of touch comments. Nobody gives a shit how much you can pay in some developing country. By that logic, you can just set up tents for free in any park in the US.

Friends is like one of the most watched shows in countries like India and China.

Glob posted...

Firstly, living somewhere else doesnt make me out of touch. The place I live and the experiences I have are just as real and valid as yours. I didnt win a lottery to live somewhere where rent is dirt cheap (I dont actually pay any, btw), I made a conscious decision to move here. Other people can do that too.

Also, Ive only lived in Asia for just over a year.
before that, Id always been able to provide for myself. Even when living with a partner, I always lived somewhere that I could afford the monthly bills on my own, if push came to shove.

This is a topic basically talking about high CoL countries since most of us don't live in SEA, and you're coming in here with experience from some far off Asian country where $350 is even a possibility, without even stating where you're from and acting like we can take advantage of that somehow. That is being out of touch.

$350 has never been a reality anywhere in the west. Not even like 20 years ago like Duran said. You couldn't even get a closet for that amount. So your input is effectively useless and condescending.

They do try though. They've pretty much tried everything and most have still been a hit or miss. Mostly misses.

Glob posted...

You dont need two incomes to afford somewhere to live. It helps though, sure.

Glob posted...

Depends where you are. You can get somewhere liveable, though obviously not amazing, for around $350 per month in the city I live in.

Lmao, this is so out of touch. Don't you live somewhere in SEA?

Most of us here live in the US or similar, where housing is completely out of control.

I don't think enabling companies to ease up on fighting back is gonna help. Employees should not be put at risk.

But don't be surprised small businesses start fighting back, because that's where you see the biggest pushbacks. They can't afford losses like Walmart, despite what idiots claim.

If the excuse is that these people are desperate, then it's a two way street and small businesses will become desperate and fight back, like that owner and employee who the beat the shit out of that guy stealing cigs from a 7-11 a few months back. 7-11s are essentially small businesses since they're franchised. Actually, that wasn't even the only incident. Another employee at a 7-11 flipped over the thief and started beating the shit out of him in the summer.

Or that restaurant owner and a customer beating the shit out of 3 dudes trying to rob the place a couple of months
back.

All of this will just end with more police presence eventually.

I'm enjoying the show, but I'm definitely lost on what the point of all this is. I feel like it was just something dumb they added with the whole loom thing. It would have been more interesting if it came before things like NWH and MoM.

I was expecting more of a show where they would interact with some of the other timelines or variants.

What's the coupon code for the $13 off?

There's an update. Both the NYPD and the DA seemed to be right.

She turned herself a few hours ago and she was arrested and given a desk appearance ticket.

The DA's office said they will not prosecute her for anything and will drop the charges.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/jonathan-majors-accuser-grace-jabbari-arrested-1235625694/

Sound like BS, and that they actually have a lot against him according to newer articles coming out.

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/jonathan-majors-criminal-case-new-details-police-incident-london-1235766520/

Ikr.

I just go "sup you dumb motherfucker. I need Monday off at 7 PM. You better not act like a bitch ass and try to deny it"

Phantom_Nook posted...

No Way Home already showed that a variant of a person can be born before or after them. still, 19th century to 30th century is a pretty long gap. must be some shit exclusive to Kang.

lolife67 posted...

Kang has a variant born in ancient Egypt named Rama Tut lol existing along the entire timeline (present, past and future) is his entire thing.

I was under the impression that he just goes back to those times to manipulate things. Like his whole thing is manipulating the timelines.

I wasn't aware he's just born randomly in different eras of different timelines. That doesn't even track because advanced future tech is his advantage. I thought Rama-Tut is just a Kang chilling in the past.

I liked this episode a lot. A nice little story with Mobius and Loki running around like idiots.

This was mostly an episode for Renslayer, Kang and Miss Minutes.

Also I'm not sure why there was a variant of Kang in 1868. I thought he's from the 30th century or some shit.

This felt more like HWR attempting a backup with himself, but the backup didn't really track.

Horror itself, especially movies I've seen before. Just throw it on the background and chill out.

I'm gonna stick to Mario. I tried out Luigi, Peach, Toad and Yoshi and I wasn't really feeling them.

Also this elephant power up is pretty annoying.

Goku is easy mode. Feed the fucker till he leaves.

SiO4 posted...

It's not real.
Restaurants work on a thin margin.
Now owner would be so freaking stupid to post something like that.

That's some anti-tip troll bull shit going on there.

What proof do you have it's not real?

There's tons of entitled assholes like this all around the country. It's not like we've never seen this before.

The fucking gall. I understand when employees complain, but an owner complaining and pushing this is just screaming "I can't pay my employees a living wage and YOU should be ashamed for not picking up the rest of my labor costs".

Fucking assholes.

Makes sense since BvS shows that something like Jason Todd happened, yet, Joker is still around. He even teams up with him in the Snyder Cut.

Ricemills posted...

I thought they always can, but not allowed to do so in interfering with middle earth issues.

You're right. He wasn't allowed to use his full power to help Middle Earth.

Overconfidence. He didn't think they were an issue and put zero effort towards the Ents.

He was also not all powerful. Just powerful and his concentration was on other things.

It wasn't that bad of an MCU movie, but it was bad as an Ant-Man movie. The absence of Luis, Dave and Kurt was well felt.

Biofighter55 posted...

imo they either shouldve not kill off that kang so quickly or kept them trapped in the quantum realm for now

Actually, that was the original ending. For some reason, they decided to completely change it a month before release in January. In the original, Kang escapes the Quantum Realm and strands Scott and Hope in the Quantum Realm, ending with a cliffhanger.