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Does the sandhspamcbe stand up things like rpg fire about the same as a rex or no?

What the fuck is a Salandipolus

Cyberdemon & BJ best buds forever

Its still Hades

I think it partly depends on the number of teams. I suspect we only have 12-16 max given what's happened to the board.

With that number of mercs there's gonna be a tendency to hard vector to your most favorable matchups, giving us a lot of samey match topics + or - a BH or purchase here and there.

Which again, its not exactly Vivis "Thing" that she casts Doom

KanzarisKelshen posted...

It's definitely a concern and we're taking note of it

(Though I suspect a lot of it is straight up just the fact we started the TR with teams on week 1 maingame econ, as opposed to week 5 maingame econ)

We're keeping an eye out on how things play out these upcoming weeks for sure. If it remains an issue we'll give some thought to tweaks.

I dont think this fixes much

Every week as long as mewtwo can bid on shadow moses successfully, he basically has a 1 AP weekly KO and precious little reason not to use it.

NFUN posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/9/8/AAcM16AAEOBO.png
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/9/9/AAcM16AAEOBP.png

Hey maybe Elden Ring is iconic too.

Its a decent answer.

But I counter with this - Hades fuckin rules and I am bad at Elden Ring

Lmao its Hades you fuckin idiots

Hades

greengravy294 posted...

Isn't the Metroid duology Fusion > Dread?

It is but her besr Aieon abilities are from Returns where she can either activaye lightning armor to be invulnerable and doing longer range counters or use ice and counter which basically kills things dead.

If she comes in she is basically just gonna counter cloud counter lu bu blast a blackhole bomb at their asses and watch them die.

I think she sussss it out pretty good.

This is also assuming the path between the two points is pretty labyrinthine.

The walk from the heleport through the canyon is very straightforward.

Even if she gets diverted to nuclear storage for a moment and even if literally team rex just camps there (which is out of character for all of them except Liquid, who in his terrified case probably would prefer they just leave him,) its a prerty straight shot through the underground tunnel as my map of the terrain shows.

When youre not trying to hide from soldiers it doesnt take THAT long to navigate and thats assuming Samus and them dont see them once theyre in the kanyon and just go around (Zenos BJ has teleportarion and Samus can fly and probably even take K Rool with her.)

A cloud who isnt even really paying attention to him

HeroicGammaRay posted...

to be totally fair zenos was quite strong when he got mind transferred into a random soldier (still far below his level with his own body, but)

i don't think a deluded bj is gonna be as good as that, though
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BJ is several thousand times better than "a random soldier" that needs to be made abundantly clear.

And look BJ might not live through it - buts he is 100% sriving that dagger through clouds heart, especially if Clouds focus is diverted to samus.

SirChris posted...

Oh btw

The problem with bj is he doesn't get zenos's stats

In the world of ffxiv my man zenos is a THICC BOI in terms of raw stats physically and magically/spiritually. He is literally in every sense of the word built different. His fighting style is suited to this difference on raw stats as he goes around monologuing and mass murdering without any fear because fear is too base an emotion for one such as him.

Cloud is ruining his day and fast.

My man BJ is pretty ridiculous in his own right.

https://youtu.be/q_-fCqku8B8

Here he is running through a nazi hospital, his insides basically blended, going on a murder spree in a wheelchair. He is strong wnough to wield TWO minigun sized machine guns at the same time and pretty easily wielding most two handed guns in one hand whilst maintaining accuracy.

KanzarisKelshen posted...

If he lacks the capability to fight as Zenos at all (e.g. a gunman lacking the capacity to cast magic like a wizard would) he will gain comparable techniques to his object of idolization

Yes he does

KamikazePotato posted...

Even if Samus manages to speedrun Shadow Moses and reach the enemy team within 5 minutes, I don't she'd faceroll them anyway. Cloud with support can hold out for a bit.

I mean her weaponry in dread is pretty ridiculous.

She can tank his first swing, counter it and get a clean blast in with her annihilator beam which will quite simply kill him dead - its like a core strategy in dread for handling melee centric people.

For vivi she has seeker missiles and for the rex she has those sunburst missiles that cause big explosions that take out things just like rex all the time.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

You're acting like it's possible for him to immediately snap out of it. If it was, would this be a mechanic? And where does it say he has a maxed out reaper level of power? It says "anything beyond the basic level is up to viewer interpretation" - but since he has no experience, he just THINKS he does, how the hell are you arguing that he's suddenly this master?

His weaponry is mainly pilfered nazi tech. This man lives and breathes and is driven in a n almosy supernatural way to kill the nazis. I truly believe seeing the iron eagle and the swastika would be "proof of his identity" in some real serious way.

But even if he doesnt gaining Zenos power suite is VERY good even if his best bladed weapon is a dagger that looks like this

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/2/7/AAR9yWAAEN1L.jpg

GANON1025 posted...

Thanks to Other M, we know that Samus will follow Adam's orders to the letter. So Liquid impersonating him is super strong here.

Which wouod be a problem if this was Other M.

Fortunately, its Dread where she sees through his terrible advice!

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Yeah, King K. Rool is functionally flying solo here. He's competent, but he's facing Liquid, Cloud, and Vivi... with only a machine gun... uhhhhh, yeah.

The Home Team (Liquid/Cloud)

I have to push back on this notion that BJ is useless.

He either realizes he is BJ or he has the full ability complement of a maxed out reaper bare minimum, plus an ability to do teleport hax and is at worst using a pretty solid dagger even if you think for some reason Zenos is so suicidally stupid hed refuse to use the weapons at hand which he WOULD know how to use even if he typically prefers blades.

Mewtwo59 posted...

Also, explain to me why my team would move to engage the other team. They know Samus is more than 5 minutes away from where they are, and they want her dead more than anything. They're going to hunker down and wait out the timer, since they know that's their best way of beating Samus.

Because Liquid is scared shitless of BJ and doesnt want him to come anywhere near him

Hes not exacrly thinking straight.

I mean its the plot of the entire front half of Dread Kanz.

SirChris posted...

team cloud

'Samus, we have a secret plan for victory but in order to execute it you have to be patient and not worry about your impending demise. It is crucial'

She's not going to listen fully but it is going to be problematic.

Oh and zenos bj is functionally useless

Funny thing is, this exact sort of shit gets pulled on her in Dread and she does figure it out eventually and since it JUST happened to her shes just gonna be like 'dis shit again?'

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/9/5/AAR9yWAAEN0r.jpg

This is the terrain of the fight. My guys start in the red area they start in the blue.

I think under normal circumstqnces the clash probably happens in the canyon but there are some factors at play - 1 samus knows her time is limited, 2 she is being given qdvice from Liquid who she believes to be her mentor and who is scared shitless of BJ. So he is probably gonna try to make the fight happen someplace that doesnt really leave the rex in viw of things which is probably in the nuke bunker which I circled in purple.

This is cramped, the Red Hare is probably not much use here but it also makes this fight happen in Samus wheelhouse, an area that would fit right in in one of the Prime games.

Once the clash happens, Samus can really shine. In Dread and Returns one of her main abilities is her Lightning Armor which renders her invulnerable and gives her longe range melee counters with the hand cannon.

With the enemy forced to focus on Samus in comes K Rool, able to ambush the foes with a plasma powered machine gun which is capable of tearing through power armor.

BJ - one of two things happens. Either he looks at all the nazi weapons he is holding and remembers who he is and joins the fight with the bad ass Mining Laser of his which on impact has a flash bang like effect, which can bounce off things and still hit and which can pierce damn near everything

Or he believes he is Zenos and gets all of his teleport hax which hell do with his 1960 combat knife which is essentially a very short sword and bare minimum will tear the shit out of vivi. Zenos is also no stranger to guns, being a master in all weaponry and even employing a gun scythe in game, so perhaps he sees the bad ass laser on hand and decides to go ham with it anyway.

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Ahh, OK

So as I recall, Raiden is cybernetic from the jaw down. That about maps equally to Adam Smasher, CP2077's final boss, who looks like this.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/5/50/Smasher_database.png/revision/latest?cb=20210113220036

V can hack him just as well as he can hack people who are much more human and have just a commlink. There's no significant diff there. Given how Raiden's body is so cybernetic, it would probably be completely doable to just make his limbs do whatever even if his mind resists it.

Right but everything in 2077 is designed to be interfaced with.

Raiden isnt theyre gonna need to get a ping at best and even then Im just not convinced

The Pegasus stop allowing Zeratul a free shot is more intriguing to me

Kamekguy posted...

I agree for the X bots, but I still think base Mega Man is just... a lot more advanced than MGS, tech-wise?

Like, it's got teleporters and they make robots who can stop time and are designed for exploring other planets for energy sources and stuff. By MM3!

I agree the X robots are better. But I'm just talking Quick Man, Top Man, and Turbo Man as more technically impressive than any given Metal Gear!

In some respects yes.

But pure speed and stopping power is raiden by a mile.

Well do we have any reason to believe Raidens stuff is even designed to interact the world?

Like im not sure that shits using bluetooth snd near field comms that could even be used TO hack him

Kamekguy posted...

Mega Man

Like. No shot in Hell Raiden is faster than Quick Man, who is explicitly designed to be the fastest from the metals he's made of and is easily compared to "man who is an actual race car" (to say nothing about the Megamix manga claiming "four times faster than light speed", which... yeah ok sure). Mega Man can at least keep up with Raiden's movements to get a Flash Stopper off when the guy's coming right at him. From there, I take V or Zeratul to get in a fatal blow on half-health Raiden. The other one there is absolute overkill.

Raiden would have to kill exactly Mega Man first for even a shot in my mind, and if he's ripper, no chance he's not gonna just kill the first guy he sees.

Parameter wise the megas are all a tier or two below the X ones and Raidens a whole tier or two above those.

Overall I think this terrain plays extremely well to Raidens advantage because the building give him the ability to dip in and out and create short term 1 on 1 matchups. Anything wide open Raiden is fucked but a city environment is literally raidens wheelhouse.

Centaur stop + hack is their one chance to get him and nothing Ive seen convinces me these hacks can completely shut raiden down aside from blinding him which I just dont think is enough - and like Lopen Im not convinced would even work

Raiden solos I think

Lets talk terrain too what does the town look like?

Oh wait just realized with flash mans power, V will have at least one opportunity here.

Do these hackhave a failure rate? Is there some kinda will save?

Ganon can V quick hack on a fast moving target?

AriaOfBolo posted...

here's DK getting annoyed about being shot
https://gfycat.com/flusteredmistycranefly

Yeah this about DKs it

AriaOfBolo posted...

well TIL then! ....Is Crono Lv 99 though?

anyway here's DK vs. missiles
https://gfycat.com/considerateexaltedherring

So youre saying its gonna take 3 missiles lol

Hbthebattle posted...

If DK got ahold of Aigis, couldnt he just cargo-throw her out of bounds?

I mean if DK gets hold of her this is basically over, I just am unsure if he does.

AriaOfBolo posted...

also DK gets cannoned through walls and stuff at base, he can take a few hits from Aigis

I mean he also dies if an armadillo so much as touches him too; Im not sure what to make of DK

Dante posted...

i think dk destroys the place whether he intends to or not if he's chasing aigis

he can't exactly fit through the doors

Right my contention is mostly "the need to go all kool aid man here is probably slowing him down and Aigis Tracking ability gives her the best chance possible to kill him while thats happening"

Im not sure its enough but I lean that way

Well my thought is basically

- Mewtwo is dead
- DK probably gets hit with 2 or 3 of Aigis most powerful attacks before he can close the distance
- Bowser is probably setting the building on fire as this is happening
- Either Aigis kills DK with the potshots and eventuallt wins or she doesnt and DK mangles her

AriaOfBolo posted...

I think Bowser is smart enough to use the numbers to his advantage and flank, if Aigis tries to kite to the rooftop like that. I'm also not sure Aigis is twice as fast as base DK. He's not FAST but he's got more agility than people think. She can probably get a few rounds of hit and run in but I don't think she can keep it up forever even if Mewtwo is dead.

Right my question is mainly - does Aigis have the nukes/ does DK have the toughness

The X factor for me here is bowser.

Is there even gonns be room for him to maneuver or is this gonna essentially be 2 1 on 1 fights in a cramped hallway?

How do you kill things

DK and Bowser vs Aigis in a dorm where the two of them are bottlenecked and where Aigis knows DKs every movement?

Dis gud.

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