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g0ldie posted...

I agree with this.

like, in the past, even if someone was in a gang, they'd use rap, for example, as a means to escape a bad situation.

that's why a lot of gangsta rap used to be introspective/full of regret.

now a lot of gangsta rap is used to help support the gang monetarily and put their name out there/the rappers remain active gang members.

And I don't mind the escaping part. I fully believe if you lived that life and you get an opportunity to be a superstar....

You
Escape!

Simple as that. But the ones I am talking about in particular are for that life.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

You completely ignored the whole part about it putting their stories out there and making it so people who would of never been exposed to it any other way may have the ambition to want to help do something about it. You just focused on specifically what only the rappers gain, which was never my argument.

I am not ignoring anything. But what what said doesn't change. Yes, it is cool they tell their story. It is cool to give cautionary tale.
But no matter what you say.if he is still in the gang (and he doesn't participate in violence) he still cosign his colleague's violence.

If you were a famous rapper and you were in the gang. And a colleague who is in the gang. Shot and killed someone. You're going to still side with your colleague. It is simple as that. You're not going to apologize on their behalf.

And look I respect the positive side to it. I will never say take away that of it. But at least admit. The ones who are killing even when they are famous has to stop.

specialkid8 posted...

I know there's plenty of extenuating circumstances but I work a barely above minimum wage manual labor job and have 10s of thousands in savings alone. What are these people doing?

Do you live with family? Do you have government assistance? There's more to what you're saying.

Squall28 posted...

She-Hulk is the first Marvel media I watched with just a bunch of random supers walking around the city like random immortal guy, and I honestly, don't really like it.

It makes the primary characters feel less special, but I guess it's inevitable as you expand the universe. It's going to be crazy once they introduce the X-Men.

Well you have to think about it like this. The world is full of imitators. Look at man bull. People should know thay others will copy others who do horrible experiments. So while she Hulk herself is less special it does fill out a world full of superheroes like in the comic book.

It may not be the best MCU but it sure is the most marvel we ever seen. I know a lot of people don't care for the Jen is a girl trying make it through the city appeal. I mean that's for the more traditional female audience and that's fine. Yes, there isn't as much as action as you would see in daredevil or falcon in the winter soldier. However, this show just throw so much marvel character at you with no explanation. This is good. I mean we have been slowly creeping characters in for years and relatively speaking She Hulk just have these characters pop in.

We have the clothing company for super hero for Billy's sake! The last episode drop some weird experiment and an ant man character. We have this titania girl who is obsess with She Hulk. No origin needed. We had a daredevil reference. We got starting point for a planet Hulk. It is like led zeppelin balloon full of marvel character's and setups just crash in our parade and just exploded.

g0ldie posted...

if you've always known something as one way, your standard for improving things might be different from someone else's. and what you might view as bad all around, someone else might see some good in it (like, their gang experience).

Fair, maybe one way isn't for everyone. And I don't have nothing really against conscious gangster rapper. Although I do find it as an oxymoron. But the fact of the matter is the most popular ones are the ones who do or command killing. They get the praise and rip. Then we don't talk about the victim and victims family. Like how hurt they are from the effect of gang violence. Just as how we have people praise and idolize dahmer but completely ignore the affects of his victims.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

You seem to want to just tuck these people away, making so that they have absolutely zero chance to be noticed and helped. It's the main reason privileged people even know this shit is going on. I know I personally talk to others about how fucked up worshipping money over helping these environments a lot

Idc, if you're in a gang. You still cosigning shit they are still doing. And even if privileged people who know what are conscious rappers are doing about it?

Lost_All_Senses posted...

You're basically attempting to cut off a life source for an already struggling and left behind class just cause you don't understand it.

Being a famous rapper straight from street is likely less than 1 percent. It changes a few individuals lives.

a-c-a-b posted...

Listen to good rap like Lowkey.

https://youtu.be/nBNeD57-RVg

He sounds like he is pretty good. Judging from your user name and the video you sent me. You have some heavy stuff you want to dish out.

g0ldie posted...

my post was a response to what you said about how you couldn't be both a gangsta rapper and conscious, but someone responded before that so it might seem like it was unrelated.

I mean I get what you're saying. I just don't know how effective that is. By effective I mean tackling the system of gang violence.

Look at Nipsey he was trying to make a change but he ended up getting kill because of street politics? Is that what you call it? The guy pretty much got mad because Nipsey didn't want to work with a snitch. Don't get me wrong the guy should have never pull that gun on Nipsey. But the guy never came up to him on any "street bullshit". He needed help to get a job. I thought the goal was to help make a change? But Nipsey turn him down due to street politics.

Flockaveli posted...

Then go listen to Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Jack Harlow, and J. Cole. Acting like these gang members are the ones carrying the genre, like gang violence wouldn't exist if it weren't for these guys making music.

No one said that. That argument is completely different from what I said.

Also, even if we get rid of gang music. Will that make you happy? That people aren't talking about it anymore?

g0ldie posted...

that's just dismissing people's experiences.

if you grow up with people willing to attack you due to where you live, have people you care about being assaulted and/or murdered, "inherit" the lifestyle (parents, siblings, uncles/aunts, etc. in gangs), etc., then your perspective about things is certainly going to be different than someone without those experiences.

plus, seeing the police also engage in illegal activity can affect how people regard the law.

so, if you're living in a dangerous, crime-driven environment, where there's no real sense of judgment, from your view, then how's that going to affect your personal views on so-called illegal activities?

I am not trying to say there aren't people with valid experience. Some of it is a valid experience. However, making their lifestyle a commodity is something we should really take a look at. And let's not forget Most of these beefs are surge through very very toxic masculinity. Look at the video in the original page. When they were arguing on Instagram live. It was about who chase who. Who dominated who. Nobody wanted to look like a punk in front of others. We need to address it. Because just it is a valid experience doesn't mean we stop short after that argument.

Back_Stabbath posted...

warframe

The Switch can run it.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Do you only consider Drill to be modern gangster rap? Because there's plenty of gangster rappers that also mix self awareness and consciousness into their raps now more than ever and it's a phenomenal blend. It makes people from that life more relatable and humanized more now than ever.

I don't hear too much of them. And how conscious can you be if you're a gangster.

That just make you a philosopher at best and hypocrite at your worst. Even if the person doesn't participate in any illegal activity. By being In a gang, you're cosigning you're colleague illegal activity.

NoxObscuras posted...

Because a lot of these guys are actual gang members. Rapping is seen as one of those ways to make it big and get out of the hood. But once you're wrapped up in that gang mentality, it's hard to escape it.

Some are eventually able to move away from it, but for others it gets them killed before their time. And they rap about it because they're rapping about what they know.

One of my childhood friends used to get bullied, so joining a gang helped him feel "protected". He's been in and out of jail for the last 20 years now. It's fucked up, because he was a good kid up until that point.

I seen it around me. In fact, the gang stuff is why I am even on this website. My mom bought us (siblings) video games to keep us out of trouble. I always thought it was lame to be in a gang. Although, I think some songs are good gym or hype music. I never really cared for any of it, that much.

ShineboxPhil posted...

The 2010s is where rap music really began to push the envelope with disrespectful lyrics.

It's when the term "smoking a (insert name) pack" began where a rapper would outright mock the deaths of their opps.

You had beefs in the 90s and 2000s but they never really said the foul shit they do like they do now...

I do remember that but I felt that was when people like Tyler the creator was growing big. Drake (as fake as he may be at least he didn't kill anyone) was growing big as well. Then they(rappers) started to mix with pop a lot more than usual.

Now I just keep seeing obituaries and bars all on the same articles.

radical_rhino posted...

I cant stand the rampant misogyny going back decades. I love rap but dont want my daughters to ever listen to it when they grow up lest they internalize that women are a second class to men.

Yeah, I feel like we need to do a lot of unwrapping with how we treat women. To me thays borderline third world country how they treat women. Don't get me wrong. Back then I never thought too much of it but now.... yeah.

What sucks is no one think of the family that gets hurt by these rappers and their gang.

Before I start, literally who:

1. Young thug a rapper from Atlanta. Has a racketeering charge against him
2. King Von a rapper and a gangster from Chicago. Allegedly killed 3 or more people.
3. Some more Chicago rapper that I might show a video of. (Who? Chicago rappers that is who)

I use to like the 2010s rap and back. That is where the gangster rap kinda took a backseat and we see all the rapper from alternative perspective. The geeks, the nerds, and so on. But now I am hearing about these rapper who are literally killing others and putting it in their rap song or they are getting killed themselves.

Sure the music sounds tough and make good gym music.. sometimes but why is it we are promoting this stuff for? And sometimes these rapper air out their dirty laundry on Instagram live.
Here is a video documenting some beef with some Chicago rappers on Instagram live.
https://youtu.be/-Ik9UpctePE

It is stupid, I mean why?

Kim_Seong-a posted...

I cant speak to the Dahmer special specifically, but it's well known that a contributing factor to mass shootings is the publicify they get in the news;

The show had a balance between the victims, victims family, dahmer's family and dahmers behavior. Episode 6 was touching because Tony represents all of us. Someone who wants to go out the world follow our dreams. Find someone who love us. And his mom represents the people who love us and is scared that the world can be a dangerous place. Episode 6 shows who these victims are.

CountDog posted...

This,

I switch from jogging to 80ish yard sprints. Then back to jogging. Saves me a heck of a lot of time.

I plan on doing this once I gain better stamina

ShineboxPhil posted...

Tc do interval running.
Sprint in short bursts and do a jog to recover and repeat.

I do that but jog and walk.

Arcanine2009 posted...

4 mph is speed walking pace, but it's a slow jog.. But yeah everyone starts somewhere.

I was able to do 5 but then when I had a career change. I became more sedentary. So I am trying to go back up.

Running 4 mph or 6.4 kph and being 6 feet/ 1.8 meters tall? If I go faster I burn out. Is that too slow?

Bass2 posted...

The cartoon was already pro diversity and inclusive.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/7/3/AACSo3AADrkJ.jpg

Lol I notice that on my FB.

AP3Brain posted...

I get that but some character having brown skin in media isn't going to change this. They believe these types of things because of how they grew up and what they have been told by others; sometimes by their own families.

I kinda disagree with you. I feel like this is a start. But I agree it does take change within. It starts with parents telling their kid they are good and beautiful the way they are. Help build self confidence

paerarru posted...

You keep making this about Ariel. We're past that.

The effectiveness of representation is not in question. The message it tries to send is not in question. What people get out of it is the issue.

I believe it is very effective. We are using Ariel as it is an anchor to the bigger question of how effective it is. The Disney princess are a symbol of beauty for younger kids. You have this doll and you see it as something as hero and beauty and it sells billions. Why not have a black princess ( of course there is one now, but this was a major problem when most of us were kids, but since we are not black women we didn't understood why).

bigblu89 posted...

It happens A LOT. Especially in sports. Think about how desperate the NBA and it's media coverage gets whenever a white player is slightly better than average. Sports NEED diverse rosters because people are tribal by nature and identify closer with people that look and act like them.

You may not, but (for lack of a better term) are the minority. Think back to how many Latinos were pulling for Sammy Sosa over Mark McGwire during the HR race of 1998.

Or what about rap. Whenever there's a white rapper. They have a HUGE white audience, not there is anything wrong with that. It is because they see someone like then on stage.

Or let's go with soccer how we started raving over the last few years because we started getting representation at the world cup.

YugiNoob posted...

This is sort of what confused me. I couldnt relate to that guy in the article because I was never like him and saying stuff like Wow, look at Ichiro Suzuki! Hes inspirational to me because hes Japanese! when I watched baseball with my brother. I never watched shows to connect with the actors themselves, or think that they were depictions on how life should be. It never really occurred to me that people would become that invested in the things beyond the show itself.

Did you see the black doll test video I posted? How black kids had negative image of themselves? On how whiteness is preferred over black. And I don't think it just black alone that it affects and this is whybi say representation matters for Asian as well. If you don't fight for yourself and others you can be seen as unattractive. If you put more into more than the stereotypes (which really put you guys down or emasculate you). It could improve your confidence in the part of you, the part you deny. And what we see has impact in your dating.

The gender gap in involvement among Asians is consistent with research highlighting the emasculation of Asian American men as well studies that document their marginalization from internet mate markets. For example, using a non-random sample of opposite-sex daters on Yahoo personals, Feliciano, Robnett, and Komaie (2009) found that Asian American men were systematically excluded from by women from all racial and ethnic groups (including Asian American women). The focus on co-residential unions not only neglects those in romantic and sexual relationships, but also those who are excluded from romantic involvement.

Source:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4631383/

paerarru posted...

But it's factually dead wrong. There's no such thing as "racial/ethnic identity" (except in someone's messed up head). That's a load of made up bullshit. Racist made up bullshit.

Summary of Stages of Racial Identity Development https://www.wvc.edu/students/support/diversity/Stages%20of%20Racial%20Identity%20Development.pdf

@paerarru

Here is Viola Davis talking about how hard it is to find role to her colleagues.

https://youtu.be/Sf0kDGVkVzQ

paerarru posted...

Again, because they may lead to racism. Racism can sneak in when you have these positions, because they're vague. They don't address the root(s) of racism, only the surface, the symptoms. Thus they actually reinforce racism for those who are already racist, thereby perpetuating the problem. Which may actually be the agenda for the most evil. You may be surprised what people are willing to do for self gain. Or maybe not, in which case you know what I mean.
Imagine that you keep pointing out racism. That is good, because racism exists, and it should be pointed out because it's a problem. But if that's all you do, the thought "well yeah, because racism is true, because racism is correct" may creep in. Specially for those who are already predisposed that way. The fundamental truth that racism is false and wrong is not nearly pointed out as much as racism.

Where and how it will lead to racism? You do know she got the role because she has good pipe (basically, she can sing). And there has been some racism before the push for representation. A casting staff would choose base of their own racial bias and not consider the other actor who can be just as good it not better but the cast wanted to someone white because that's something they were more familiar with.
No one saying there should be status quo or a number to reach. All they ask is to check your bias and look at the cast.

And I am gonna find a link to help prove my point

YugiNoob posted...

Especially considering the fact that acting isnt a career thats commonly pursued by the Japanese.

There's almost a million Japanese Americans here but the total famous Japanese Americans are 14. Come on I am not asking for a hundred but I am sure there's more actors that should be more famous.
YugiNoob posted...

I believe shell have the talent to move up from such stereotypes as Japanese people being gas station attendants.

And that's because are people trying to push to for other actors who don't get the opportunity different roles.

A lot of casting had a lot racial bias. Your sister could be as good as someone else but won't get pick because she is too asian.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Based on the image I have of Lizzo's personality, I completely agree that Lizzo would have been dope.

Ok, that's another thing I wanted to talk about but I think that need its own topic.

YugiNoob posted...

Of course not; I want the best actors on screen. I most certainly dont want to see someone just because theyre the same ethnicity as me.

I thought Neil Patrick Harris did an excellent job as Barney Stinson in How I Met Your Mother, and I wouldve been annoyed if they had swapped him out for a Japanese guy just to get Asians more screen time.

No one saying choose someone because of race over skills. I mean that's how Chloe Bailey got the role of Ariel. I have a question for you?

You don't find it weird there isn't a good amount of Japanese actors? Do you REALLY believe that there's maybe a handful of Japanese actors? Do you believe it is ok to cast them in stereotypical roles? Think about what you're saying. Think if you had a daughter or a sister who wants to be an actor and they are phenomenal at it. And they are pigeon holed into playing gas station attendee # 2.

Is that OK? Do you believe in the past they truly and solely went for the best actor who were mostly white? If not white probably a black male?

lilORANG posted...

Those reactions look fake, but also the casting seems good so whatever.

Yes, these are trained actors to set a propaganda. You caught me /s

YugiNoob posted...

It doesnt tell me anything if I dont see people who look like me on tv. Even if every single Japanese person in movies or on tv was painted in a negative light, it would say nothing to me. Is it supposed to have some sort of effect on me?

You wouldn't want more Japanese people on screen? Or are you satisfied with them confined to rhe stereotypes that the old Hollywood always place Asian characters in?

deanshow posted...

Im terrified to here about the nasty shit white folks wouldve said if Ariel was Asian.

Man, I would be pissed.

God_of_6strings posted...

My only thing is, had none of these children reacting to the movie already seen the trailer or the box art? Maybe it's different in the digital age, but when I was a kid, I rarely ever watched a movie at home without seeing the lead actors/actresses on the cover of the movie already.

I don't understand what you're trying to say. This is the trailer. I believe this is the first trailer.

Lairen posted...

So you are saying people of any race want characters of their race?

If you had to call that something, what would it be?

It isn't the only thing. But if you don't see someone who look like you regularly on TV. What does that tell you? And if they do show you it usually in a negative light. What does that say to you?

AP3Brain posted...

While I have no problems with black Ariel I don't understand why it is a big deal for even little black girls. It shouldn't matter if characters "look like them".

It's different when actual culture is being displayed like Encanto, Princess and the Frog or Mulan but if we are just talking about skin color?? Shouldn't really matter.

@ap3brain

This is for people who don't get it. Watch this
https://youtu.be/EQACkg5i4AY

TULPAMANCER posted...

There is quite clearly a wave of race- and gender-swapping in Hollywood. This is because studios are afraid the "woke" culture will condemn them for not incorporating more diversity into their casts. Diversity is fine, but when you unnecessarily change the race/sex/etc. of an established character you are inevitably going to anger people, then you fall back on "well you just don't like it because you're a racist or a sexist or a bigot." Bullshit. Come up with an original story. Create a heroic black character, a heroic gay character, a heroic trans character, whatever. But make it original. Stop rehashing old stories and changing the central character and acting like that's enough.

Then they should have never came out with the 90s cartoons in the first place.

So the idea comes from that black children have a bias against their own skin color. https://youtu.be/EQACkg5i4AY

paerarru posted...

certain positions that ultimately do more harm than help.

How so?

HHH_is_the_game posted...

devils advocate, but honestly shouldn't we be discouraging people from thinking it matters what skin color people is in a movie? Like is it REALLY a good thing that people feel they can only identify with a character if they look the same as them? And then encourage that type of thinking as a great and positive thing? Black people shouldn't feel they can only identify with black people or white people with white people. i feel like we really need to make race less important

I hear you. But when you see a pattern. You feel some type of way

TheVandals posted...

Damn. I'm Asian. I wish I was included.

Honestly, I do to. Aren't you tired of the Asian cast being severely typecast?

Lost_All_Senses posted...

That's all good and well. But, you're not taking in how much more important Ariel is to 40 year old men on internet forums. And I feel like that's very uncompassionate of you. Disney is their toy and they don't want anyone else playing with it. Just let them have their toys.

Oh yes, you're right forgive me for being so selfish.

AloofHermit posted...

paid actor

Yeah, because Disney paid them really well.

I am pro diversity & inclusion and this is the reason why

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CibH4Uugc-b/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

teep_ posted...

You pay money for buying the game. That money goes (in part) to JK Rowling

But it isn't me encouraging her to say more wild stuff. Just looks like a good game.

R1masher posted...

Posting from an iPhone

Lol android. Never had an iPhone.

Raikuro posted...

Is following an Instagram worth more than handing over $70

I don't like to follow anyone political on anything. I use social media to catch up with family and friends, get gaming news, follow a niche gaming group. That's it really.

There's a fewthings I wanted to talk about. But i will start with this question. How much do you have to dedicate to yourself to a certain group?

The other day, I saw a black women stating that all white allies should buy a ticket to black panther and give it to a poor black child who can't afford it. Which sounds cool. Then she goes on and say that the allies have to stand outside and protect them from harm and they can see the movie next week. What is that? This sounds like you want a servant more than a supporter.

The next one is about Hogwarts Legacy. I don't understand how buying this game means you side with JK. I mean I will buy the game but I am not going to all of a sudden follow her on Instagram. And I am not going to start voting for anti trans laws.

Also, why are there people mad when someone is apolitical. Most people are ignorant when it comes to politics and identity politics. Let them be real.

I deleted everything. Just going to focus on gaming for awhile

bsp77 posted...

Just move on to a better woman. Don't give her power by showing you still think about her.

My plan is to expand my gaming product and accessories. I have been looking forward to getting a 4k tv

JuanCarlos1 posted...

The sex isnt worth it!! Assuming youre getting some...

Anyway abort mission

Yeah, sex isn't definitely worth it. She didn't know but I lost the attraction to her because of the way she treated me.

SamsungGearS2 posted...

How are you even questioning this if all she wants to do is spend your money and gas? Tell her youre not her free on-call Uber driver anymore and she should find some compassion for someone who helps her so much.

This is for her to see. For some reason she doesn't see it that way.

Turbam posted...

Dump her dude.

She left me. I am going to show her this topic so she can see what people really see her as.