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Dark_Spiret posted...

what the fuck are you talking about? my point was that it probably wouldnt have even mattered. he didnt have a gun on him when he was shot. people have been killed for even less to the point of showing ANY kind of aggression can potentially get you killed. going for a taser? dead. holding a knife? take one step and dead. make a fast hand movement to your side? dead. struggling to be held down? potentially dead. specifically because the training is too loose in general and cops are taught that EVERYONE is a threat and that they know the system will go out of its way to protect them in 99% of those instances. thats not how it used to be to a large degree. not till the late 80's when the training started to shift towards protecting the system rather than the people.

If you have the stomach for it watch the video from 2020 of 2 Tulsa police attempting to arrest David Ware.

That video bothers me a lot. Because both officers are shot, one doesnt make it home. Because a subject who is not combative, assaultive, but just passively and actively resisting with police who are attempting to arrest him. Then suddenly, in literal milliseconds, produces a gun and kills one officer and gravely injures the other.

It shows you how quick you can go from routine traffic stop and arresting someone who may appear harmless to not going home to your family. Its fucking milliseconds

Yall wonder why the police are so itchy on the trigger. But so obviously fail to see the world theyre up against.

mybbqrules posted...

He was still unarmed at the time he was shot 60 fucking times. So you're saying that if a guy has a gun and fires a shot, then throws the gun away, the police are still allowed to shoot him at any point after because at some point in the recent past he was armed and fired a shot? Great logic.

And furthermore, it's ok to shoot him in the back as he's running away and posing no threat in that moment.......why?

smfh. Yes. So were saying that if you have a gun in your possession and use it to fire at at police, the police will use whatever means necessary to put you down and neutralize the threat. And heres the most important part you cant seem to wrap your head around. Your possessioncannot be verifieduntil you are no longer a threat. Understand? No of course you dont. Lets try once more.

Follow basic logic for the love of God

1) subject has firearm
2) subject used firearm against police
3) subject fails to comply with orders, continues to run, and therefore continues to be a threat

Youll notice that subject doesnt have a gun on his person at the time of being shot doesnt enter the equation now. Why? Because, and let me really drive this home for you: theres absolutely no fucking way for the police to know that until the threat is neutralized. What they do know for absolute fact, is he had a gun. How obtuse you have to be to fail to understand the police cannot, in no way shape or form search someone from shooting distance.

How you cant possibly wrap your head around the fact that hes actively attempted to shoot at police and makes him the highest level of threat there is. and running AWAY from police means hes not complying with orders. It means when he gets shot in the back, he faced the consequences of his actions. And again, he HAD A GUN. You cannot make life risking assumptions that he didnt have it on his person when he fled.

You armchair critics sit here and make the most asinine assumptions and judgements about police work. But if you were in their shoes you would be a complete failure of an officer. Letting a subject get away because you wont shoot them in the back and worse than that, let that threat continue to present itself, giving potential they may kill innocent people, or even your own foolish ass, because of a complete failure of logic of how to respond to an active threat.

-BrokenSpiral- posted...

People've been doing that or some variation for hundreds of years.

But you kinda need to, you know... have friends or interact with people even a little beyond a business/professional setting to know that.

The perfect girl but she makes the most condescending shitposts like this youve ever had the misfortune of reading.

Dakimakura posted...

CE started nothing

Started with that fuckin attitude Ill tell you that right now.

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Perfect girl but she actively posts on a dead video game forum

Collat posted...

I just interpreted it as the people writing the musical getting shit wrong.

For sure thats the easiest interpretation

But the fact that that theory works so well is why I love the MCU and what I choose to believe. Its like they wrote a Mandela effect into their own continuity.

Can we not just wear pocket watches and vests all the time as a society?

The fuck happened to us

Tyranthraxus posted...

There's lots of exposition setting the premise up.

It's not like the movie starts out with the guy getting the offer. Also in hindsight it's kind of shit that he made the offer to the husband. Why not just ask the wife directly?

Yeah fair enough.

And to answer your question, because if you aim to fuck another mans wife its the gentleman thing to do to at least ask first.

oh and the Demi Moores tight pooper comment slayed me lol

PoundGarden posted...

The one where Hank hurts his back and goes on workers comp.

"How's your back Honey?"
"Great Joe-Jack, how's your gambling problem?"

And then the doctor that thinks he's faking and keeps bouncing rubber balls off his head

Plus Johnny Depp as the yoga instructor, that episode was top tier for sure had a lot going for it

That line fucking kills me. And then hes apologizing for snapping while staring at the floor but Joe Jack is already long gone haha.

i also had nooo fucking idea the yogi was Johnny Depp for all these years ??? That just blew my mind.

Oh and which is the paintball episode? I really cant remember that one. Is it in the newer seasons? Ive watched the early ones religiously but theres a lot I didnt see towards the end.

Ive never actually seen this movie. Is that the basic plot?

Ive been wondering lately how they manage to stretch such simple concepts on paper into full length movies? I guess I should maybe just watch the fuckin thing.

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Agreed!

I also love the extra layer they put into it with Ant Man being in the play, yet not actually even existing yet as a hero at that time.

Is it just public perception gone askew? Orrrr is a possible word of mouth based on the fact someone seen Scott Lang from the Endgame timeline in the middle of the time heist on the street with Cap and Iron Man?

I mean I just love that theory not only because it works so well but the fact they have details that well thought out oozing out of so many different areas of this franchise that you can absolutely believe they intentionally thought of that possibility.

Also as an aside. Ms Marvel also continues to push how popular Ant Man has become to the collective consciousness. Itll be interesting to see him return as a character.

yemmy posted...

The best one was the one on 4/20 of last year when the cop shot the girl that was about to gut her friend with a knife.

The opinions on CE (at least the most vocal) are usually the opposite to what is actually correct, like 75-100% of the time. This forum has become "reddit 2009" levels of cringe

Oh yeah I remember that one.

This board is the epitome of fools in numbers. Seeing people get confidence repeating their BS because so many others share the same brain cells.

Its like watching hundreds of people line up to touch the hot stove. Every single one of them seeing the people in front of them burning the shit out of their hand, and yet, no one has the sense to even step out of the line.

Show me the first one.

The second one is almost always disappointing

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNSoM53g/?k=1

One of a trillion examples.

Because this is now a literal trend on TikTok and the like, but worded differently

Theyre a 10, but

DespondentDeity posted...

Canadian incels?

Cute.

Incel = bootlicker. Insults that mean literally nothing when you throw them around with zero understanding.

Ajiri posted...

No one believes cops in America Sway, look at all the cases of black Americans dying at the hands of police. Jayland wasn't a criminal he has never been arrested in his life. The magic words for cops to get away with is "I feared for my life" and that's it, then their hands are washed cleaned. When they actually have real threats they act like cowards (Uvalde)

Its fine to be untrusting. Its understandable in todays climate with law enforcement.

Its not fine to paint every single story with the ACAB spin and be completely unable to understand how use of force works and also side with actual criminals at every single opportunity because you 1) always assume the cops are shit (even when theyre not) and 2) will never adjust your takes to fit the evidence. That second one is a doozy. How yall can pretend to sit on this moral high ground and be so open in your ignorant biases is baffling.

wackyteen posted...

I'm the furthest thing from a cop defender.

But

After looking more into this and seeing the body cam footage, there were a dozen or so officers on ground. So if they all start firing once one does, then that's how you get a solid 90 shots at one fleeing suspect.

The police chief said in a press conference that all officers involved indicated (after being sequestered from each other immediately after the incident so unlikely they all got together to form the same story) that they all saw movement from Jayland that made them think he was about to attack them.

Considering he had already shot at them and they had no clear indication to that point that he wasn't armed, it isn't a stretch for them all to assume that an upward motion from his hip was him pulling his weapon to fire at them.

Sure, you can doubt the cops story but there's like 13 different POVs from the 13 officers on ground. You can kind of see what they're talking about, though the camera quality isn't the greatest.

Yes, it's easy to frame this as "unarmed man gunned down by big bad pigs" but the timing of him tumbling out of the car and the last shot being fired is roughly 17 seconds. That includes them deploying and missing with tasers. The 90 shots happen within roughly 10 seconds.

By their training they all responded rather appropriately. If a suspect demonstrates they are a threat, you respond appropriately. He'd already fired a shot, whether at them or not is irrelevant, and when he turns around in the body cam footage in the 2 seconds before he gets lit up, they had every reason to believe he was still armed.

I know CE has an endless hate boner for cops but this is one of those few times where cops did everything by the book. It just had a sad ending for Jayland

This is extremely well said.

Arcanine2009 posted...

Meanwhile you have a conservative comedian posting this
https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1543784070923968512

Police claim he shot at them while he was in the car (muzzle flash?) before he stopped his car to runaway
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/03/us/jayland-walker-police-shooting-video/index.html

Are you implying theres something wrong with this tweet? Because there isnt.

It is really sad how yall will immediately take the side of criminals who actively try to kill innocent people and continue to spin every story to make the cops look like the bad guys.

You know, if theres an actual case where the cops were out of line, their use of force wasnt justified and they actually did something to make people understandably untrustworthy of law enforcement. People like me would be right there with you, being equally as mad, wanting justice for the victims and being upset how people in power can get away with shit.

But when yall sit here, spinning every fucking story to fit this ACAB narrative, you look like complete fools. You make it impossible to have any respect for your side. And all you can say is some bootlicker comment?

I hope one day you see how asinine it is. Its possible to rightfully hate something and still have a brain in your head, able to parse incidents individually. Knowing not every case fits your agenda and that doesnt deflate the balloon of hatred youre allowed to hold.

As someone who believes the God Butcher run is easily one of the best comic stories to exist. The movie doesnt need to be rated R to tell that story well.

I do think Taikas style wont tell it in the same way. But people who go into things with expectations are often disappointing by their own doing. Ill be going this Friday and I cant wait. Im sure itll be awesome.

Murphiroth posted...

It's not an insult, it's a statement of fact tbqh. Bootlickers gonna bootlick.

If you'd bothered to read my post you'd see I implied the guy getting shot is his own fault, it's the 90 shots I'm skeptical of. But keep on with your melty.

if you could only hear how you sound.

Xatrion posted...

I'm also having a hard time seeing why people are frothing at the mouth over this one. Fled police. Had a gun. Fired said gun at the cops. Got out of his car with a ski mask on. Started running. Cops attempted LTL takedown first. Then cops fired. Cops had good reason to assume he was armed. Use of force continuum was followed. Am I missing something?

At which point was the use of lethal force unjustified here?

This 1000%

This is a perfect example of how moronic anti cop people sound.

Throw your bootlicker comments all you like. Yall sound like absolute fools.

People have been stealing from me fo years.

Ive played and beat Elden Ring folks.

It didnt capture this feeling Im describing at all for me. The original Dark Souls was actually quite good for this.

Modern games have too much guidance with a very interactive map, waypoints, compass, a literal dotted line on the ground for you to follow. Its just not the same.

Like actually being lost and not knowing your way around. Games like Morrowind where you had to actually use verbal directions and signposts to find your way.

Especially the early 3D GTA games 3, VC and San Andreas. Before you completely memorized the city and map. Theres something very nostalgic about that brand new feeling with a game.

This definitely calls out a good percentage of this board. Seems like a few may be triggered by it in this topic.

It even gets me, Im definitely the type that believes an easy mode has no place in the Souls series. But Im definitely more of a western gamer.

Played a little bit of that Nokia game or whatever the fuck its called. Kind of fun but idk what the hell Im doing.

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lmao

WaterLink posted...

you don't own it forever with gamepass.

Doesnt bother me in the slightest.

I dont need to own a game to get dozens or even hundreds of hours of entertainment from it.

And its never once been a problem where a game left gamepass and I said ehhhh I was playing that!!

MrWingnut posted...

You are correct about playing games that I wouldn't have bought otherwise. In the process, I've experienced many amazing games that I wouldn't have otherwise. It's not a scam if I'm consistently finding games that entertain me for hours on end.

I was gonna say something to this effect too. But you can just tell when someone is just isnt worth the effort.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

TC what good games did Gamepass bring you in the past year?
The deal sounds nice but you need some games.

Guardians of the Galaxy. TMNT: Shredders Revenge. Ninja Gaiden Master Collection. MBL The Show 22, NBA 2K 22 Assassins Creed Origins, Mass Effect Legendary edition. To name a few that Ive gotten into recently.

OudeGeuze posted...

ITP: I'm fine with anti consumer practices as long I can say "but gamers" on gamefaqs.gamespot.com

Youre talking about the phone game market btw. Where every single game is riddled with the most egregious micro transaction policies the world has ever seen.

I dont give two got damn fucks what happens in the mobile game market when most games have 5 different currencies and will make you buy more energy to be able to play.

But please, throw the anti consumer line out there. Im taking the time to highlight something that is clearly the opposite, but here you are making this topic all about that.

OudeGeuze posted...

Doesn't matter if I don't buy anything, by virtue of these practices being allowed to exist it only paves the road for worse anti consumerism to emerge.

See: horse armor.

See: gamers have been mad since horse armour and nothing has changed.

If you want to scream at developers for it, be my guest. Seems like a gigantic waste of time to me. Im just gonna go on playing the games for what they are. It would be nice to be able to have discussions about it without yall getting your twisted panties into our discussions. Such as this one, in this topic, where Diablo Immortal has zero relevance.

OudeGeuze posted...

Yup, he's been defending it since the Blizzcon announcement years ago

is it a decent phone game and Did I call it since its announcement? 1000%. Yall want to be mad at the micro transactions, but it means literally nothing to me.

its astounding how upset yall choose to be at something that doesnt really affect you and you cant control.

OudeGeuze posted...

TC shills Diablo Immortal

Are you upset the micro transactions boogeyman is going to get you?

Heres a pro tip. Dont fucking buy anything. Its brain dead easy.

Nintendo fanboy?

Never been once burned by a game leaving gamepass before, literally never happened. And I dont need to own a game to get dozens to hundreds of hours of enjoyment out of it. If you can only get your rocks off because you own something, thats beyond fucking weird to me.

The literal thousands of dollars Ive saved since subbing to gamepass must infuriate you.

hyperpowder posted...

Wait. How do you actually expect Gamepass to survive in the future? We already have seen games arrive on Gamepass incomplete and filled with Microtransactions (Halo Infinite).

That is your future in Gamepass. Incomplete episodic games to keep you subscribed, and games filled with Microtransactions to recoup not being sold at full price.

Yes. Of course I do. Its not going anywhere anytime soon. And be mad all you want at the games that show up on it, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the service.

And I dont have to pay one cent towards a game like Halo Infinite to get my enjoyment out of it, and I never plan on it.

Weird take.

YoungMutual posted...

Why wouldn't you grab it for cheap when on a sale for less than the amount you're paying monthly on gamepass, a service where games can leave the service at any moments notice?

Gamepass fanboys are dense af and gamepass is a scam.

Gamers mad at everything in the industry thats remotely anti consumer and every single time a game has micro transactions, its the god damned end of the world.

Gamers also mad at the literal best deal in gaming.

Go figure. Gamers always mad. Stay mad friend, Im clearly not going to change your mind.

Pfff. Idiots.

DespondentDeity posted...

XXX hot if its white people making it, just regular hot if its Asian people making it.

Theres Indian place that has become like stop 5 favourite restaurants for me. They ask for spice level, I always ask them to make it as they would for themselves.

Garioshi posted...

I'm too white for spice :(

It only takes one generation to break this stereotype

Im White af.

Im a true spice lord through and through. Every meal should hurt.

Episode 6: meh

DyingPancake posted...

I have a few different Yetis I use. Nothing beats those imo

Excuse me your majesty

Its also funny how teams are teams no matter where you go. Since I live in Alberta Canada and its extremely right wing here, the amount of people who are pro Trump, anti Biden here is astounding.

Yall being thick af itt

And people are so scared of having their data tracked.

And if this is what theyre using it for, I have zero complaints.

EnterTheTekken posted...

Well, Thanos gave the mind stone to Loki, so I have to imagine he had a fail-safe to track it in case Loki failed.

I think it was just an easy gambit for him. It let him see what could be done with just one infinity stone in the attempt of taking over a planet and had he lost it to earth, like he did. He knew exactly where it was to collect later.

Scapegoated posted...

they might have something to detect infinity stones. Some sort of advanced alien tech.

I dont believe they do.

I think Thanos had kept tabs where every one of them were. But if he has the ability to detect them he wouldnt have needed Gomara to tell him where the soul stone was.

Earth is a big place. Tony didnt even know where they were.

Bump

littlebro07 posted...

Reva vs Vader was great. Loved how he effortlessly he wrecked her without even using a lightsaber for most of it lol

That was so cool. The whole right scene might be one of my favourites in star wars history. But especially the way he completely controlled the fight and used so little energy to make her look completely below him.