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Paratroopa1 posted...

I don't think this joke is more offensive at all, there's an element of punching down on someone's insecurities in the Chris Rock situation that isn't present here

Totally disagree with this take. Implying that Leo dates young teenagers is waaaay worse than commenting on hair loss. I also don't think that Chris Rock was punching down - it was at worst a side-punch to someone with equal standing.

CaptainOfCrush posted...

Interestingly, I chatted with a few of my students about it today, and they all "sided" with Smith, or at least really sympathized with him. I was definitely surprised, since my main frame of reference last night was GameFAQs, and most people here seemed to be tearing him a new one.

Younger people are definitely going to side more with Will. Poor impulse control is a way of life for college students.

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Fuck Graveler. It's the only shiny Pokemon I've ever found and it used Selfdestruct on turn 1.

D3 has a couple bad minigames as per usual, but it also has one minigame that's incredibly cool and feels like a natural extension of the trial.

I think Burn My Dread, while not quite as catchy/visually impressive as some of the later openings, is incredibly atmospheric and does the best job at setting the game's mood.

I would disagree on those takes - the Marths don't have the cheese necessary to do well on wifi and MGAW's stuff is just as oppressive offline

I can see that. ZSS is one of those characters I have little experience with (both for and against) so I just kinda threw here there.

Got bored, decided to make a super serious Wifi Tier List

1. This ranks how much characters are better/worse in lag. It is not a direct tier list ranking. Zelda is probably not a straight-up top tier character in lag, but she does benefit from that format more than almost anyone else, so she gets put in the highest tier.
2. The rankings are relative to each other. Obviously every character is nerfed by lag, but if Character A is slightly nerfed and Character B is unplayable, then Character A does relatively better in that format.
3. Not ordered within tiers.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/7/AAIpcmAADEiP.jpg

Danganronpa would be better if half the cast of each game STFU.

Haru's father got an animated cutscene death that kicked off the final act

Lucina feels awwwful in lag. Thank God for Samus as a palette cleanser.

Who the f voted for Makoto

Alolan forms are really hit-or-miss.

Yuri Katsuki is currently beating Pikachu - by a little bit. Waluigi isn't faring so well against Kirby.

Yuri Katsuki seems to be the rally favorite this time around.

Shaggy is currently getting rolled by Kirby.

https://twitter.com/Polygon/status/1506284596924764178

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ninkendo posted...

And this guy pretty much predicted the whole thing 2 months ago he only got the name wrong

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/s4qc40/luffy_didnt_eat_gomu_gomu_no_mi_chapter_1037/

lmao everyone in the thread is shitting on him

Whoops

I sleepwalked with Samus into Elite Smash. There's a video on projectile characters that analyzed frama data vs. added lag delay vs. real human limits and found that full Charge Shot is literally unreactable online unless you're far away, even in ideal online situations. It WAS nice to turn people's bad connections against them for once though. Maybe some of the people I beat with the B button will buy a wired connector now lmao

One Piece doesn't feel like a series you should be reading for the sake of one or two characters. It's a huge ensemble cast with an expansive world.

Timeline statistics like that make a lot of sense when you realize it's just about old people being replaced. People don't change, they just die, and a newer less bigoted generation is born.

7.5

I don't think tier lists matter too much for our level unless you're using an egregiously bad character, and even then I wouldn't be surprised if someone picked Ganondorf and started dunking people. This is by far the most-balanced Smash game. There's no Melee Bowser or Melee Fox. Me wanting to change away from Shulk is mostly a personal thing, not because I think he can't win against Palutena or whoever.

That's fair. Personally when composing a tier list I heavily factor in real-world human usability and not only a character's theoretical upper limit, though. For example I think Pikachu is a tad overrated - very good character, can absolutely body a lot of the cast, but his truly broken stuff is difficult to pull off and he explodes if he makes a moderate-to-large mistake. Leads to inconsistency, which is why ESAM can beat peak MKLeo and then buster out at the very next tournament.

Random side note, just looked up character weight numbers, did not realize Mewtwo and Sephiroth were THAT low, good gravy

I wouldn't even say it's theoretically broken - his range is huge but the frame data is bad. He's like...fake scary. Seems oppressive until you realize the shield button shuts down everything and he gets little off of grabs. A Shulk player needs to (as you said) repeatedly win neutral and/or cheese stocks or it's very easy to fall behind. This is supported by his competitive representation; the best Shulk in the world by a significant margin (Kome) has insanely inconsistent results and can lose to basically anyone.

I've definitely lost a fair degree of faith in the character as the game has gone on. Outside of picking him to counter Ermine's Duck Hunt, I'll probably start investing in a more consistent swordie. If only Chrom's recovery wasn't so awful...

I think I'd move Ness and Kazuya up a tier but everything else seems solid. People on Reddit were complaining about Roy and ROB being in Top+ but those characters have massive strengths that offset their weaknesses

Also move Shulk down a tier, he's lowkey overrated

There's a bunch of mid-range (by competitive standards) players that we never see because they win some matches here and there while never making Top 16.

5 sounds right

Smash Reddit posted its monthly consensus tier list, based on user voting. Thought you guys might be interested!

https://i.imgur.com/3NVdUHO.jpeg

Also, for the other stat nerds out there, the OrionStats adds up total points based on character results in tournaments for 2022. Not quite a tier list, but it's a good indicator of which characters are currently thriving in competitive play.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gRlzy4z_dpqb2ZRhGoqtbDcuvUKz_ROsMZHGegon53M/edit#gid=0

I went ahead and filtered out the characters that we tend to use in our B8 tournaments.

#2 - Palutena - 154.5
#3 - R.O.B. - 142.5
#5 - Mythra/Pyra - 128.5
#7 - Samus - 119.5
#11 - Cloud - 99
#12 - Lucina - 84
#28 - Sephiroth - 53
#29 - Byleth - 52.5
#30 - Diddy Kong - 50
#32 - Bowser - 47
#38 - Shulk - 41
#40 - Ridley - 38.5
#47 - Ike - 27
#51 - Sora - 25
#59 - Jigglypuff - 17
#62 - Duck Hunt - 15
#64 - Bowser Jr. - 14
#67 - Robin - 13.5
#81 - Little Mac - 3.5

Last Surprise is the best overall, but being able to kill enemies before the really good part starts means you spend half the game getting musically blue-balled.

Great day. Top row is staaaacked

Bowser is bad against Duck Hunt until you get two-three hits. Then Bowser is good against Duck Hunt.

Oh yeah I'm not waiting three matches lol

I'm learning. Basically want to play a charge shot character that is actually good cause dealing with Robin's weaknesses gets old

I'm on to play some friendlies if anyone else is.

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Likable characters. The actual story is okay.

Only part that seems iffy is the voice acting. Everything else looks real good.

Yes

I don't care about this game but I really like the trailer song.

I liked this game a lot. Was fun.

LeonhartFour posted...

Elden Ring vs. Dark Souls who ya got

Dark Souls for now. That game gets a lot of 'status symbol' votes, so even if Elden Ring gets a higher playrate on GameFAQs (which is debatable) I'm not sure Elden Ring would be stronger. Plus Elden Ring needs time to settle regardless, it won't be at peak strength here for at least a year.

I've still seen several people on this board call From Software games niche lol

I'll be honest and say that I don't think any of these guys particularly stand out on their own. There's a reason they almost always play second fiddle to Joker. Batman has a great ensemble cast but I can't think of a single example where - for example - Scarecrow wow'd me.

Dark Souls 2 would be one of my favorites if you cut out half the game. There's just too much mediocre filler. The good stuff is very good though.

Also, RIP Dark Souls II.

Demon Souls is one of the two main reasons I bought a PS3, the other being MGS4. It hasn't aged well compared to the games that came afterwards but it'll always hold a special place in my heart.

Wish the remake had done more to modernize it, though.

Xiahou Shake posted...

From has made horror games and mecha games so I def think it's worth clarifying further.

No one cares about those games though. When you say 'From Software game', everyone knows what you're referring to.

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Big potential that goes mostly wasted by glacial pacing and a lackluster conclusion.