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htaeD posted...

Oh?
It wasnt IGCD then?

he was already dead

Darmanitanakin Skywalker is great

Chaeix posted...

Speaking of flavor Arti what did you say your star wars flavor was again? You're here so I figure it's easier to ask than look.

It's irrelevant to anything but I just want the pun.

Dexter Jettser

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Did I miss Kirbys flavor?

no

Better yet, just make everyone a gladiator

Uglyface2 posted...

I was browsing a game sale and saw Judgement on there. I tried starting it a month or two back, but there was something about wall kicking that I just didn't get the hang of pulling off. I stopped playing a short time after that because it's probably important.

I just wonder what you all do in that situation.

Unless you're trying to 100% the completion list it isn't important at all.

not the one weighing 1000 lbs

a lot of these are good!

htaeD posted...

Most Arti post all day

:)

##Vote: No Lynch

aw yeah

ok enough of that

##Unvote: No Lynch
##Vote: changmas

I guess that answers the question of why Kirby was so fixated on Lopen's fakeclaim days after it was made.

Chaeix posted...

<b>##Vote: Arti</B>

SCUM

/s

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Like jc and chang read as opposites to me here. Chang is here a lot but without much to say and jc is certainly less frequent but he always seems to have something to say.

That's actually an interesting way to put it. I should definitely look back at some of his earlier posts like you did

DoomTheGyarados posted...

But do you think you could pass that challenge in his stead? He spends a lot of time calling jc inactive

JC is pretty inactive. He's done nothing to prove himself town, as his only vote all game was Sheep after he was counterclaimed by Hb. I do remember playing with JC in the past and I don't remember thinking of him as a person who is this inactive in mafia games.

ViolentAbacus posted...

Also to Arti, I didn't think being the 15th person to say "Two cops? That's not right" would be conductive to the conversation when I didn't have anything new to add. Now I still don't believe that there are two cops on one night, but I'm fine to leave that if the more experienced players are since they think it's a possibility.

I just don't see making no comment about it when you were around the time it happened. You were there and posting, and instead commented on something else at the time. It's almost like you were avoiding the topic of myself all together.

MZero posted...

My first post was calling Ulti scum and my second post was calling Isquen scum

can you point me to the prodding?

Yes, you did.

Which is odd when you had to be prodded by Lea to provide anything on the main topic that has dominated most of the day. I'm sure you remember since I think you made more posts in that instance than I've seen in the game so far.

You called those two scum. So are you going to vote them or apply any pressure? SBell sure has tried!

Also, since you think Ulti is scum, what is your opinion on post 437 of last topic by Kirby?

I'm going to bet there's at least one scum that is contributing a lot today, and if it isn't Kirby, it's probably changmas. His ISO of me last page was extremely weak and felt like he was just trying to provide content, and he missed a lot of posts by both Lopen and myself when going over the topics, as some of the questions or comments could have been clarified if he read closer. Scare also provided some worthwhile content on changmas when he was here back in topic 5:

ScareChan posted...

Chang was also I think the first one to bring up flavor

It feels like he's been trying to fish for flavor day 1

Ben flipping scum and the vibe I got from sheep would make me circle chang as the next person to push

The quotes Scare pulled up include changmas commenting on how the game has had only Star Wars characters at the time, and then Ben calling him town for pointing this out. Scare believed that Chang's interactions with Sheep at the time were more of a scum lean on the page prior to this.

I will say though I know changmas has been active but I can't really recall anything big he's done regarding any of the lynches so far. Besides my own.

4th person I'm still trying to figure out. Could be either JC or red since neither of them have posted enough for me to get a read on either of them yet. Either that, or I'm probably overlooking something since I think most of the remaining players otherwise are town.

Nora Estheim

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The other player I wanted to mention was Abacus. He was around during the counterclaim I made, yet never really commented on it. His lone post on page 3 of the previous topic had nothing to do with my claim at all. He did ask me a few questions on the list I posted, but never really followed up on them either. I get he's a new player but he might just be skirting by because of this.

That's fair. I haven't played mafia in four years but I do remember taking notes in games from back then. I obviously didn't do that this time and that's my own fault.

Also, I want this on record.

##Vote: MZero

I've liked most of what Kirby's been posting today, which seems a far distance from the walls he made back on day one. MZero still hasn't really done anything and had to be prodded last topic to give an opinion on anyone.

I would assume there are a few scum just sitting on the sidelines and being content with my lynch so they aren't really doing anything to provide any content. MZero fits that narrative. My only problem is that Scare also fits that and he's been really inactive lately. Can't get the posts in day one between Sheep and Scare out of my mind, though, so he's still probably town, but it's definitely worrying me.

fell asleep and missed the entire Yankees game, whoops

changmas posted...

this one stuck out to me at the time. i suppose this could be some kind of star wars joke i don't know about (perhaps one that fits with the joke gladiator claim?) but from what i can tell dexster jettster would not fit this at all. maybe someone who knows literally anything about star wars can help me with this.

iirc he did claim something that fit his fake gladiator claim in topic 1. I don't exactly remember what it was though.

then switches to Ben from Sheep with zero explanation of how we got there.

If I needed an explanation to vote someone who was counterclaimed like what happened on day one I don't know what to tell you.

changmas posted...

Now after the flip on Day 2 he's suddenly very concerned with Isquen's view of Sheep.

This is from a discussion with me on Day 2. Key insight into how he thinks a town player should play. It's a bit of a stretch, but you could make the argument he's got this on hand because he's been thinking about it himself trying to replicate town play. He's working hard to push on Lea and Isquen this day.

The fact that Isquen specifically avoided the Sheep lynch on day 1 has me thinking he might have been newbie scum that didn't want to vote his buddy, and since I've never played with him before I wanted some insight on his thought process. It's probably not though, since I think he's town after the miller 'counterclaim' on Ulti.

changmas posted...

also arti didn't get anywhere remotely close to the corrik scan claim. just totally ignored it.

Chris quoted the post last topic on day 2 where I called Corrik's scan just another one of his fakeclaims.

Cindy

for Ricard Highwind

26. Beat a game with revenge as a central theme

Lost Judgment

17/50

Lost Judgment (PS4)

Sequel to Judgment that improves on its predecessor's combat immensely by not only adding an all-new fighting style but completely revamping the two from the previous game. The game always seemed fresh in combat, and I did spend a few parts of the game just looking for enemies to fight. As for the story, it gets a lot of good buildup but the ending isn't as satisfying as the conclusion to the original game. You'll also get annoyed at Yagami basically being a broken record for like four chapters straight.

Minigames are standard Yakuza fare, I finished mahjong, koi koi, oichi-kabu, and the batting center. Also finished the Squirrel Search which is basically a cool little treasure hunt using Yagami's detective gadgets in both Kamurocho and Isezaki Ijincho. I will probably do the side cases and School storyline in Premium Adventure.

TotallyNotMI posted...

Do we know Hope's dad?

He might not be as strong as his mom but if it's Year of Dads...

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Bartholomew_Estheim

Shuyin

for Ricard Highwind

Kirby321 posted...

Mewtwo the... lightning rod? Seriously?

... I'm taking a joke too seriously again, aren't I?

yes

aw yeah Minwu

Obellisk posted...

what's puzzling is why you think this means he's town knowing there is no split on the pokemon side.

True, but I still think scum would like to hide their Pokemon flavor because of the portmanteau with characters that would be villains on the Star Wars side.

Kirby321 posted...

Yep, I did say that. Doesn't necessarily mean Ulti would be town in that scenario; he could very well be scum if you're town. Are you suggesting that Sbell is scum and Ulti is town, then? Because Sbell could just as likely be town and Ulti scum if you're truly town-aligned.

I guess I'm just a little puzzled why you think Ulti is town. I didn't really believe he was until you and Hb both revealed flavor scans on him.

I am suggesting nothing about SBell.

I am obviously more confident in saying Ulti is town after I scanned him and got back a result that matches what he claimed as his flavor. Not sure why that's puzzling?

Exdeath

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Kirby321 posted...

I was going to say the same thing. I'd like to see Sbell respond to my thesis on why Ulti is not scum if you're scum.

... Hey, wait, why are you agreeing with me? I only said Ulti is town if you're scum. Are you admitting that you are scum?

You literally said the following in that post

Kirby321 posted...
If Arti is town (unlikely), Ulti could still go either way (in which case grilling is A-OK).

UltimaterializerX posted...

Do you think HB is town?

No one else answer this.

Yes, I have said so already.

Ricard Highwind

trading noms for Ricard, nonauto

SBell really needs to read Kirby's post in last topic. He thinks I'm scum, so the logical thought process for him should be that Ulti is town.

Not home yet but I saw a few comments I can reply to easily

Leafeon13N posted...

Ugh Ultis logic for thinking Arti isfor sure scum is real bad.

It's not bad, it's just straight up wrong. I stated that I got Mewtwo, the Genetic Pokemon in my scan and Hb literally confirmed he got the exact same thing a few posts later.

Kirby321 posted...

Note that although he claimed his Star Wars flavor, he never claimed the role. Perhaps that's a good thing in some perspectives, but when the flavor cop claim looks so poor next to Hb's claim, you would think claiming your Star Wars role would add credibility rather than just finding a portmanteau and calling it a day.

claimed vanilla in the exact same post I claimed my flavor like five pages ago

time to farm

Fastbreak posted...

Lea hasn't flirted with me once

Probably scum

I don't think either of you have been posting at the same time during the game

ViolentAbacus posted...

Could you explain any of those, particularly why you think MZero and Kirby are scum, and why you think Lea is town?

I said the following last topic: "Kirby's walls in topic one, like Plum said in there, seem lackadaisical and pretty low in content. He's getting a lot of support from being the first person on Sheep's lynch but it's possible he didn't expect for Sheep to be lynched day one." Scare said that Sheep "attacked" Kirby but he really didn't; they basically just had a conversation about plum in the topic.

MZero is useless and inactive, which is his #1 scumtell. I've seen it far too much in many mafia games. I can't recall a single post he's made this entire game.

ViolentAbacus posted...

Why is cop considered weaker on Pokemon nights? I'm missing something there. Lea said it, and multiple people affirmed it so obviously it's true, but I'm missing why.

Host confirmed there is no real flavor split for Pokemon

Isquen posted...

We only really have Lea's day 1 fake claims, which were joking, and IIRC, she was just as absent day 2? I kind of agree with Ulti, there. Scummish but there are too many other people unaccounted for.

I actually thought her answers on day two to the many questions presented to her were very well thought out, and were definitely from a town perspective. There really doesn't seem to be a well thought case on her to be honest.

Hbthebattle posted...

interesting that you have chris in ??? despite skewering multiple scum, including a strongman/extra kill and a pseudo-roleblocker

I don't think I will ever get rid of being suspicious of Chris, regardless of how well he has played

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Scum it is. Who are all the useless lumps? Keep in mind we have a total of 3 scum left

MZero, JC, and Red have all been very inactive over the last two days.

So taking into account Corrik's flip and my night scan, I have the following before reading anything

Town
me
Death
Hbthebattle
Isquen
Lea
Plum
Scare
Sultan
Ulti

Scum
Kirby
MZero

???
JC
Changmas
Red13n
SBell
Chris
ViolentAbacus

Anyway, the votals

d1
[11] Sheep: Kirby, (Chris), (Ben), plum, (Chris), (Lea), Hb, Death, Chris, JC, IGCD, Ben, Arti/Lopen, Sultan, chang
[3] Ben: (Chris), (Sultan), (Arti/Lopen), Sheep, (Chris), Ulti, ViolentAbacus
[1] Chris: Corrik, (Sultan), (IGCD)
[1] Isquen: (Arti/Lopen), (Lea), MZero, (IGCD)
[1] IGCD: Isquen
[0] Corrik: (IGCD), (Ben)
[0] Lea: (Hb)
[0] No Lynch: (Arti/Lopen)
[0] Kirby: (Plum), (Arti/Lopen)
[0] Plum: (Scare), (Sheep)
[0] Arti/Lopen: (Isquen), (Isquen), (IGCD)
[0] chang: (SBell), (Chris), (Arti/Lopen)
[0] Death: (Sheep)
[0] Ulti: (MZero)
[0] Sultan: (Isquen)

No vote: Red
No vote at end: Lea, SBell, Scare

d2
[7] Ben: (Hb), (Ulti), Sultan, Chris, Ulti, Kirby, Isquen, Plum, Chang
[1] Arti: (Isquen), (Ulti), Ben
[1] Ulti: (Isquen), SBell, (Ben)
[1] Chris: (Ulti), Corrik
[0] Red: (Plum)
[0] Lea: (Arti)
[0] Corrik: (Ulti), (Isquen)
[0] Abacus: (Ulti)

No vote: Death, JC, Lea, MZero, Red, Scare, ViolentAbacus
No vote at end: Arti, Hb

masterplum posted...

Uh oh, I'm back to thinking Ulti is scum.

This is an oddly specific detail to remember as town, but would have been very memorable to scum ulti

People have been remembering this all game and I don't know why. It seemed obvious to me that Lopen was just referencing the previous game and didn't actually have the role.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I disagree. Corrik claimed a cop scan on HIM and he claims to have forgotten it? That is absurd in thinking process for a town member.

To be honest, I did forget. But I looked at Corrik claiming the scan, figuring he was lying as always and didn't bother saying anything about it. Seeing people actually believe him was quite the surprise.

Anyway, I know I'm light side and that how I've read the game so far has been terrible as I have two people on my scum list with one that has flipped town and one that I have scanned to be what he claimed to be. Probably my worst town game since Infinity mafia and I don't have a confirmable role this time!

Going to have to read again, now with the added knowledge of Corrik and Ulti being town.

htaeD posted...

Okay... you found a good combo of flavors.

What was the exact result you got, Arti?

Mewtwo, the Genetic Pokemon

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Reasoning for choosing ulti, arti?

I thought he was scum based on the past few days, and he was the only one to claim a flavor on my scum leans at the end of day two. Decided he was a good choice to see if he was lying about his claim and was scum because of this.