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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 2: The One Where Kanzaris Still Puts Up The Topics
Lopen
04/04/17 5:33:06 PM
#83
It just doesn't line up to me. If you thought it was a joke you'd treat it that way rather than respond to Tony with something that would be more relevant if it was a serious claim. Why didn't you mention it was likely a joke at any point when talking about it?
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 2: The One Where Kanzaris Still Puts Up The Topics
Lopen
04/04/17 5:24:01 PM
#77
Hell I'm not even sure why you're making that line of inquiry with Tony if you thought it was a joke-- wouldn't the more natural reaction there be "I'm pretty sure it was a joke" if you thought it was in fact a joke?
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 2: The One Where Kanzaris Still Puts Up The Topics
Lopen
04/04/17 5:21:01 PM
#74
How is it relevant if he knows whether pjbasis was a mercs player or not if it was a joke anyway? I mean I think a better joke would be to claim Flying Spaghetti Monster TOWN Miller and I know he wasn't in mercs.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 2: The One Where Kanzaris Still Puts Up The Topics
Lopen
04/04/17 4:50:54 PM
#65
I will request elaboration in how that makes it stranger first.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 2: The One Where Kanzaris Still Puts Up The Topics
Lopen
04/04/17 4:44:58 PM
#62
I am inclined to agree actually. I'm not sure how that has any relevance without diving deep like I have, since nothing about the "joke" is really tied to mercs there.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 2: The One Where Kanzaris Still Puts Up The Topics
Lopen
04/04/17 4:17:33 PM
#57
I already said why I'm asking about it. I think this scenario makes some sense:

Random guy unfamiliar with mercs joins game
Sees pjbasis on scum safelist

Thinks pjbasis = miller makes sense cause of pjbasis miller joke gag. Jumps on it asap cause early miller claims have tended to go unchallenged lately (well, in CT it did anyway-- can't speak for others). Backpedals when flavor speculation exposes likely theme for scum, and a sensible theme for any millers that isn't a b8mafia reference and wouldn't be super obvious to anyone unless they'd played mercs, even if they'd gathered admins = scum.

If it was actually an obvious joke I would have taken it as one. As is I'm still not convinced it was supposed to be and would like more opinions from people as to whether I'm crazy or not.

(Salt grain post is in your favor and why I'm prodding for details rather than voting based on it-- as I think that would be your only (other, I guess?) funny post in the game. Still think your delivery needs a lot of work if that actually was a joke.)
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 2: The One Where Kanzaris Still Puts Up The Topics
Lopen
04/04/17 3:55:45 PM
#48
I don't think it was obviously a joke and believe it's possible it wasn't meant to be a joke at first-- hence I'm prodding for details as to what about the delivery made it a joke.

Nothing more, nothing less.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 2: The One Where Kanzaris Still Puts Up The Topics
Lopen
04/04/17 3:41:37 PM
#39
Where were the tells that it was a joke exactly aside from it being pjbasis?

How was it not just as much a "lol look at the funny host" claim that is actually a legitimate one? Like I got the reference (not due to familiarity but because VI explained to me that it's a joke) and I didn't read it as a joke. Scare took it as a legitimate claim.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 2: The One Where Kanzaris Still Puts Up The Topics
Lopen
04/04/17 3:29:16 PM
#26
The more I think about it the more I don't like the Benjamin miller claim. Dude played it completely straight until countered, and hasn't really joked all that much in general.

I almost feel like he saw pjbasis on a safelist, said "yeah that's an obvious miller" and claimed it immediately, then tried to play it off as a joke when Scare started explaining the theme.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 2:59:06 PM
#448
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Lopen posted...
I thought PGO made better flavor sense tbh.


I was many things, but I don't think I ever got to be too 'paranoid' most of the time.


Paranoid not so much

But you did flip out and kill people who poked you.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 2:58:04 PM
#443
Gravy's bad at this unvote stuff it seems. Still has Chris on me too.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 2:52:15 PM
#425
I thought PGO made better flavor sense tbh.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 2:48:52 PM
#414
Grieving is good if you need to. Although it turns out I didn't even rage when the game ended-- I wanted to at first, but the rage just left me after like a week. Nothing bottled. Maybe I didn't hate it as much as I thought.

Btw IGCD do you think Ulti is scum or are you putting forth his lynch to protect town power roles.

And if you think he's scum why is that.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 2:45:33 PM
#407
Splendidly. I am so much happier with mercenaries 4 out of my life.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 2:44:03 PM
#403
IfGodCouldDie posted...

Who's being defensive and counter voting?


U.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 2:39:27 PM
#393
I think agreeing with someone is fine and meaningful. There's no need to be innovative all the time. Committing is what's important.

Think Leo has the best case on that list thus far. Johnbobb is a very "safe" suspicion at the moment and it was a very weak suspicion at that.
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TopicWwe yearly report card
Lopen
04/04/17 12:20:05 PM
#67
Pretty sure Bo Dallas will never be fired. Bray Wyatt + Mike Rotunda + Nepotism means he has a job for life.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 403: Fuck You, Roman
Lopen
04/04/17 11:28:44 AM
#38
TheRock1525 posted...
I mean the first words out of Michael Cole's mouth for their entrance was "Things are about to get broken!"


This is a perfect example of how WWE announcing can make anything good sound lame.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 11:26:28 AM
#329
Random irrelevant note on flavor Lopen should be the SK who hates the town players and the scum slacking ass admin team.

That would be freakin awesome.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 11:22:25 AM
#328
Yeah Jaded is the only one I had any sort of scum read on of that list because post 205, his response to me asking him to explain why he thought what I said was a contradiction for reasons other than I said it was, really didn't jive with me.

So of that list that would be the only one I'd be amenable to jumping over to at the moment based on evidence.

Speaking of jumping over I'd also like Corrik to explain why he "didn't like my vote on Oddity at all"
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 10:51:32 AM
#300
Corrik posted...
Ulti and IGCD tend to kill themselves as scum so neither is a priority here.


Is there a particular game or games, or defining imploding characteristic you can cite for IGCD on this? I thought he was one of the better guys at not self destructing in CT.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 1:31:21 AM
#246
How disappointing.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 1:15:37 AM
#239
But seriously though jerkishness aside was I off in my speculation? Maybe you left your vote on me because you wanted to keep pressure up to make me squirm a bit more? I actually think that's a fairly townish move all things considered, particularly if you don't have another suspicion lined up. There are actually a lot of reasons to leave a vote on me so it's important we get the right one here.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 12:55:24 AM
#234
I'll speculate where I please as I'm not doing it for your benefit. Your grievance is noted and given the appropriate amount of concern, however.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 12:46:33 AM
#231
So you're saying I was incorrect in my read? Why not move the vote then?

Also is there any particular reason Ulti would think you're not the strongest player? I thought you were pretty good in my one game sample size!
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 403: Fuck You, Roman
Lopen
04/04/17 12:28:43 AM
#15
I've said since it happened Sheamus and Cesaro teaming as the resolution to that best of 7 was the best possible thing they could've done with it.

I still can only have so much interest in them since the tag division is kinda stagnant, but I like the pairing!
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 12:23:44 AM
#227
Let's unpack that a bit IGCD how is that an opportunistic vote, exactly?
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 403: Fuck You, Roman
Lopen
04/04/17 12:21:06 AM
#11
I just hope you lost interest during these episodes and not after so I can remain optimistic.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 403: Fuck You, Roman
Lopen
04/04/17 12:18:36 AM
#7
Lucha Underground is so good btw. Why did I take so long to actually watch this. Just watched the first Aztec Warfare episode-- that and the preceding episode were better than anything WWE had put out in many many years, PPVs included.

Any wrestling fan with Netflix should watch it now that it's so accessible.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/04/17 12:08:15 AM
#220
Corrik and Tony are the only two nonposters thus far IIRC

Johnbobb posted slight agreement that asking for whether a player is in the game in a topic where the fourth* post has a player list was scummy, which makes him a wise man indeed.

*Editor's note: Fifth. Screw you Horace Hogan.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 403: Fuck You, Roman
Lopen
04/04/17 12:04:00 AM
#5
Y'all just can't appreciate that THE BIG DOG

Buried that old bag of bones like any BIG DOG should
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 402: Thank You Taker!
Lopen
04/03/17 11:59:25 PM
#493
Megaman703 posted...
There's a huge difference in how they booked Goldberg and how they've booked Taker in the past year


About one match give or take.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 402: Thank You Taker!
Lopen
04/03/17 11:58:55 PM
#492
Well I've seen WWE send enough guys to NXT Stagnation to know that. Real shame I was half hoping they'd find their way to Lucha Underground.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Spy - Day 17
Lopen
04/03/17 11:53:00 PM
#77
Oh that was quite some time ago

RIP Matthew
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Spy - Day 17
Lopen
04/03/17 11:52:03 PM
#76
Matthew
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 402: Thank You Taker!
Lopen
04/03/17 11:50:24 PM
#482
Broken Matt Hardy has been DELETED by the E of two Ws.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/03/17 11:47:27 PM
#217
I think that's more of a "I am lazy with moving my votes around and haven't found someone better to be particularly suspicious of yet"slip than a scumslip, personally. I mean if he says I'm town then that's taking his vote off me in spirit-- hell that's arguably better than just unvoting me. He's committing to a stance, which is bad for scum to do as they lose train flexibility later in the game.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/03/17 11:31:56 PM
#213
Oddity posted...
Well, I'm off to bed. Still think Lopen's vote sucks, but meh.



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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/03/17 11:24:52 PM
#210
Jaded_Eye posted...

As I interpreted what you thought Chris was saying:
The contradiction is that 20 minutes into the game there wouldn't be any legitimate suspicions.

As I interpreted the contradiction when I first read it (I first saw it in Chris' post so in all fairness upon re-read I may have made a few leaps in logic examining the motivation behind the vote):
the contradiction would be that from a town perspective, you shouldn't have to be assuaging any legitimate suspicions against you because you are town. Any suspicions that early in the game against town would not be legitimate.


You definitely have to assuage suspicions against you as town. Simply being town is not good enough as believe it or not claiming town doesn't actually do anything. It's your job to not only scumhunt but also facilitate that by not being wrongly lynched, as you being lynched is wasting a day. So this is not a contradiction.

The contradiction is more in my mindset believing that any suspicion 20 minutes in is almost certainly illegitimate, something you'd have to read between the lines to get as I didn't quite say that outright, but more just laughed Ulti's 'suspicion' off because of that. This is similar but not exactly what you posted for what you thought I thought Chris was saying-- it's more specific to how I feel about votes 20 minutes in than some sorta absolute truth. I mean if Ulti really really felt good about my so called slip, then why wouldn't it be legitimate suspicion?

As a whole I'm not satisfied with the answers given. No extra credit. Two demerits.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/03/17 11:01:33 PM
#203
That's what I'm saying! Even if Chris was still a scary green rage monster he would have no reason to right now. We're being very civil right now, casually talking about hanging Lopen and maybe some other less important person.

Also you said "he's usually ragey" then corrected it to "I guess I meant no conviction" both of which count and the latter of which is arguably even more wrong dude literally voted in 1/2 of his posts-- that's good conviction if I've seen it! True believer this guy.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/03/17 10:54:33 PM
#200
I have no issue with you calling him suspicious. Maybe he is suspicious!

I have an issue with you saying he is "mellow" and "lacks conviction" based off of two posts, one of which was two bold tags a quote tag and a vote. Phony, man!
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/03/17 10:52:00 PM
#194
Are you claiming town then? Like, officially?
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/03/17 10:50:08 PM
#190
##vote: Oddity

Two #s because it ain't twitter I guess.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/03/17 10:49:30 PM
#189
Honestly think some of the posts calling Chris mellow are negative points.

Oddity's for instance-- Chris had literally two posts at that point! How much ragey and conviction could he have shown by then! Hell one of his posts was a vote! Doesn't voting show conviction?

In fact. I will show some conviction here.

#Vote: Oddity

Between that and the "is that menuwars guy playing what are your thoughts?" it's a strong enough lead to vote on at the moment.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/03/17 9:46:44 PM
#140
Jaded_Eye posted...
But I agree with Mzero's argument that Lopen should not be lynched just based off of the "if I'm town" post. Is Lopen really bad as scum? Because with the other "slip" involving the contradictory "legitimate suspicions" sentences...I dunno, I'm not buying the Lopen lynch just yet. I feel like a good scum player would be more scrutinizing for slips like that, yeah?


Extra credit: Explain why it's a contradiction other than I said it was one.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/03/17 9:16:46 PM
#138
I meant Menuwars I'm just mentally confusing the names.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/03/17 9:08:43 PM
#133
That's strange because I got the reverse feel from him from that exact same post which is why I was asking.

I feel like a scum player would be more likely to post "is Mzero playing" in an attempt to appear active/concerned/etc while a town player would just you know, look at the player list. Just felt like a kinda fake question to me.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/03/17 9:04:00 PM
#130
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Oddity is probably town so my revenge for Dark Tower mafia will have to wait.


Why is this? Does he have a town tell of some sort that he's displaying that I'm not familiar with or do you just think he generally feels like a town player at the moment?
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/03/17 8:50:15 PM
#121
It's Ramsay you uncouth swine.
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TopicMercenaries 4 Mafia Topic 1: Stockholm Syndrome Simulator 2017
Lopen
04/03/17 8:45:58 PM
#117
Why ask if menuwars is playing when there's a players list in the 4th post?
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