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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 3:49:36 PM
#402
Leo3L posted...
Just for the record, Scare was trying to tie the lynch D1 but screwed up. He was just a regular unrestricted double voter.


Tbqh, Scare screwing up might be the best thing to happen to town this game.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 3:44:26 PM
#397
Day 2 MI just says "the switches make sense."
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 3:39:45 PM
#391
VeryInsane posted...
Can an archive hunter look at MI end of Day 1 and beginning of Day 2

Specifically for thoughts on Puns and reaction to Chris's vig shot


Not much about Puns, but says he's thinks FFD and Dowolf are scum. When Puns becomes the 2nd lynch when I break the tie, he laments "why aren't we lynching Dowolf?", then Dowolf splinters and MI says it looks bad, Han agrees, Shad defends me, Scare doublevotes, MI reminds everyone scum had a DV previously, Scare reminds everyone MI is scum and scene.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 3:24:24 PM
#370
>.>
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 3:24:00 PM
#369
Nanahara715 posted...
htaeD posted...
I sure dont think Puns is scum, too much scum on his day1 lynch and too much fire between him and Han

but that is a point, a point that also incriminates you, but I find your lack of guilt-awareness more of a towny trait

maybe I should just skip day3 and look at day4


Alright, let's back the fuck up.

It's "unlikely" that 5/5 on Han's scum lynch are town, and it's more likely to you that 7/7 votes on FFD day 1 were town?

That's question 1. No one wants to address the fucking atrocious FFD lynch.


I read this as Red's post responding to me. Just pretend Red said this instead of Death.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 3:22:57 PM
#366
htaeD posted...
I sure dont think Puns is scum, too much scum on his day1 lynch and too much fire between him and Han

but that is a point, a point that also incriminates you, but I find your lack of guilt-awareness more of a towny trait

maybe I should just skip day3 and look at day4


Alright, let's back the fuck up.

It's "unlikely" that 5/5 on Han's scum lynch are town, and it's more likely to you that 7/7 votes on FFD day 1 were town?

That's question 1. No one wants to address the fucking atrocious FFD lynch.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 3:19:28 PM
#362
red13n posted...
btw, maybe bad meta here, I'm not sure, but its been on my mind off and on.

I don't think anyone still thinks puns is scum. I don't really, personally. Thinking about the han lynch a bit, the thing that probably leads me to scum nana the hardest is that, unless I'm entirely wrong on puns, it means for nana to be town it would be 5/5 town on his lynch.

I'm not sure I'm feeling that with the way he basically let himself die.


Are you fucking kidding me
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 3:15:32 PM
#356
Vengeful_KBM posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
I don't buy this.

I mean, you voted for me at the end of DAy 4 with less than 20 second left. Clearly it didn't take you a reread to decide "I was scum."


You looked really bad at the end of Day 4 and I'm not the only person who thought so.


Bad enough to throw out your town read on me and join your number 1 scumspect MI and your number 2/3 scumspect VI?

You jumped to a lynch on a player you thought was town and that was being spearheaded by two players you called scum earlier in the day.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 3:12:06 PM
#352
VeryInsane posted...
Although MI/KBM implies extremely cohesive scumteam Day 2


Hm


Scum team appeared fairly cohesive in retrospect? Shit only started to fall apart for them when Chris was shot
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 3:06:14 PM
#343
Vengeful_KBM posted...
LIKELY

IS

NOT

OBVIOUS.

I reread the game once I had new information.

I reread the game once I had new information.

I reread the game once I had new information.


I don't buy this.

I mean, you voted for me at the end of DAy 4 with less than 20 second left. Clearly it didn't take you a reread to decide "I was scum."
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 2:58:59 PM
#331
Nanahara715 posted...
Vengeful_KBM posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
ITS NOT ACCIDENTALLY MISLEADING WHEN YOU WERE CALLED OUT ON IT AND (in MI's words) DOUBLED DOWN ON CONTINUING THE FARCE


Jesus %$&@ing Christ.

ALL I have done on this subject is try to contextualize what I meant by that comment. I was reading the game focusing on the things that confirmed scum had done. The timing of Han's vote was weird and suspicious. That's LITERALLY ALL I was trying to communicate.


But you don't even get the timing and the events and surrounding Han's votes right. How does that happen?


And this is even more abrasive given that YOU were posting about my lynch not being Viable at the same time / right before "Han's vote means he's covering for Nana." How do you miss your own post?
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 2:55:38 PM
#319
Vengeful_KBM posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
ITS NOT ACCIDENTALLY MISLEADING WHEN YOU WERE CALLED OUT ON IT AND (in MI's words) DOUBLED DOWN ON CONTINUING THE FARCE


Jesus %$&@ing Christ.

ALL I have done on this subject is try to contextualize what I meant by that comment. I was reading the game focusing on the things that confirmed scum had done. The timing of Han's vote was weird and suspicious. That's LITERALLY ALL I was trying to communicate.


But you don't even get the timing and the events and surrounding Han's votes right. How does that happen?
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 2:54:12 PM
#317
Vengeful_KBM posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
1) You admit that in your detailed reread that you confused votes.


Yes.

Nanahara715 posted...
2) You admit that in your detailed reread that I didn't have the pressure that you thought I had


Yes. Although these two points are literally the same thing, i.e. a single comment that I made. Tangible proof here that you are purposely blowing this out of all proportion.

Nanahara715 posted...
3) Day 4 You said "Nana is obviously town to me."


This is a lie. Please lynch the scum.


LITERALLY POST 300 OF TOPIC 8 THAT HAS BEEN WUOTED TEICE TODAY.

"I've seen nothing to convince me that Nana isn't town."

Like, it's even quoted in this fucking topic.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 2:52:14 PM
#311
*in fairness, MI only said "doubled down", not "doubled down on this farce"
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 2:50:18 PM
#306
Vengeful_KBM posted...
It's three hours of reading and notes. The comment was only meant to pertain to the timing of Han's vote which I thought was odd and might say something about Nana. This is FAR from my #1 reason I think Nana is scum, there are three whole damn posts about it back at the beginning of the day.

If we're going to keep focusing on an accidentally misleading comment I made, I'm seriously not going to last the day without screaming at everybody.


ITS NOT ACCIDENTALLY MISLEADING WHEN YOU WERE CALLED OUT ON IT AND (in MI's words) DOUBLED DOWN ON CONTINUING THE FARCE
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 2:48:53 PM
#304
Vengeful_KBM posted...
I have admitted that I got Shad and Stan's votes confused.

I have also admitted that I thought Nana got more pressure on Day 1.

I literally don't know what else you all want from me.


So, let's checklist:

1) You admit that in your detailed reread that you confused votes.

2) You admit that in your detailed reread that I didn't have the pressure that you thought I had

3) Day 4 You said "Nana is obviously town to me."

So, at this point, you've admitted that things involving me were not the same as you thought they were during your detailed reread, but you're still using that argument to try to get me lynched?
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 2:38:53 PM
#295
Vengeful_KBM posted...
Like, I'm showing you my raw notes you asshole. As I said before, I edited them into more readable paragraphs.

NOT THAT YOU WOULD KNOW THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE CLEARLY GOING TO CHERRY-PICK EVERY FUCKING THING I SAY.


Went back and compared line by line, minus grammar that doesn't impact the meaning of the sentences and adding the word "meanwhile", 95% of the words and 100% of the order of thoughts are the same, AND THE EVENTS AT THE END OF DAY 1 ARE STILL NOT WHAT HAPPENED.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 2:08:00 PM
#263
Vengeful_KBM posted...
Here. Here are the exact notes I took for the end of Day 1, Nana.

TOPIC 3

Death going after dowolf very early
Also going after Jeff to try and make him "slip" over knowing about the term "backpedaling" of all things
Han pops in briefly to interact with Death and MI
Death does an ISO of Han and says he looks better for it - a little friendly back and forth between them
Death then ISOs VI and says he looks good too, feeling is not mutual
Boko has said I'm obvtown like five times!

HanOfTheNekos posted...
htaeD posted...
My Immortal posted...
Sorry for missing the joke.


thats okay, I am average at telling jokes

KBM, you did willingly engage with FFD in a lot of that nostalgia talk yes?


This is something I noticed early on and I'm still surprised that a lot of people think KBM is Town.


Vengeful_KBM posted...
I reread Han's analysis of Stan's first topic posts and though it didn't totally convince me Stan is scum,


Like this, come on, total Scumbuddies.


Scum Han trying to push suspicion on me earlier than I even remembered, wow.

Meanwhile Chris threatens to hurt anyone who votes Nana
Han led the lynch on Stan while MI sort of de facto spearheaded the lynch on Nana - in a way that wouldn't happen if they were scummates, at least (**MI/Nana mutually exclusive?**)
Han is also trying to throw a lot of suspicion on Red which makes Red look a little better
Meanwhile Shad leading the lynch on Puns makes Puns look golden and he will probably die tonight won't he, especially with the fact that Han also jumped on Puns to make him a viable candidate. This also diverted attention from the Nana lynch option at the end of the day - **Nana is looking bad on a reread of the end of D1. Puns seems QUITE clean now that Shad and Han have both flipped scum.**
Also MI is putting in a lot of town-looking legwork at the end of the day, compiling posts of easily-accessible information and whatnot.



TOPIC 4

Worth noting that the people who waited to vote until the end are all town. Scum was leading the D1 lynches, outside of the Nana lynch which was being led by MI (probable town) and myself.
Meanwhile Nana goes after me hard for "believing the exchanges between [Nana] and FFD were faked" which still strikes me as a weird and useless line of questioning, after this VERY clear answer:

Vengeful_KBM posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
True/false I'm your number 1 scum read


False. I've been vacillating back and forth. An actually true statement would be "you have remained on my list and I would be willing to lynch you based on current information".


Nana looking worse and worse. Then he accuses me of "refusing" to take a stance directly after I said the above (which was literally taking a stance). This is still pissing me off on a reread.
Then dowolf almost gets lynched D1 by MI/VI/puns/Leo. Interesting how all of them are still alive. Don't know what that means though.
People threatening to B8 Special Shad (which would have been a much better outcome than any of the other main choices at the time): Red, VI
Other than bitching at me, Nana does nothing of substance towards the end of the day, probably because he knows the main lynch candidates by that point (FFD/Puns/Dowolf) are all town and there's no reason for him to intervene outside of a couple token posts


This is literally word for word what you posted at Day start. We've already been over how your juxtaposition of events doesn't match reality.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 1:56:34 PM
#255
My Immortal posted...
You're not the first to quote that post today nana


What are your thoughts there then?
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 1:55:48 PM
#252
Leo3L posted...
People will say that's ironic coming from you, but I can dig it


Hence, #I'mAPot.

(because the pot calls the kettle black)
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 1:49:22 PM
#250
I went back to reread Leo's day 4 claimed actions for boko because it didn't match what I remembered, hence the ":/".

Looks like that was cleared up.

I didn't find this gem from KBM though, post 300 topic 8



Maybe you can't remember even this far back but the last time I even got a serious chance to say something was two game days ago, so this shouldn't be wildly surprising. Weekends are a bitch for me, which I said when I signed up. I managed to make it work for the first weekend of the game, but I'm sorry my second weekend (which, again, I warned people ahead of time would be a serious challenge) doesn't meet with your approval.

Anyway, thoughts on the current state of the game. In fact, let's go one by one:

Puns - Probably town. The optics of the game have just worked better the whole time when I've made that assumption.

Han - I... don't know. He's seemed pointlessly irritable the whole game but I can't tell if it's an act or just "Han feeling irritable". No read.

Death - My gut earlier said that he was scum. He's my probable "sixth man" if we're assuming a six-man scumteam, but I could just as easily see him being town.

Jeff - Almost certainly town, unless Jeff shooting Chris was some kind of insane scum gambit to vindicate Jeff through to the end of the game. That small possibility keeps nagging at me, but that's something to pursue later (if there even is a later; I'm dreading this being a lylo situation).

Red - Probably scum. This is a gut feeling.

Leo - I have been mostly taking his claim as read, which is a read that only becomes stronger when MI tries to take it apart (see below). Town.

MI - Trying to spin my interactions with Chris into largely nonsensical points against me. I have said several times that my and Chris' interactions make sense regardless of our alignment so trying to pigeon-hole me into an alignment based on those interactions just because we have a flip on him is foolish. As I have said, I was prodding Chris a whole bunch of different ways to see how he would react, and had some material ready to use it against him on D3 so I could provide something. This admittedly looks horrible for me since I never got to use it and wasn't free apart from that, but there you go. I'm not entirely accustomed to him dying on N2 (although, again, my memory, I'm sure it's happened.) The icing on top of all of this is that to have a Jack on top of everything just feels like the last straw on the camel's back in terms of "power overload". My strongest scum read.

Nana - Town. I've seen nothing to change my mind back to my original read here - likely town Puns saying one of the two of us has to be scum doesn't really change that either, as I have to go with how I feel. He seems to genuine and too earnest in his cluelessness to be anything else (and if you are scum, well, you've played a surprisingly good game so good on you, but you're certainly not my target for today even though you probably expect to be).

VI - Pushing me very hard all of a sudden. I'm starting to think Chris might have been trying to pull one of his patented "lynches on a scum mate to make himself look better" with his insistence on the VI lynch at the end of Day 2."


This was Day 4 so I found it interesting that a reread completely changed her mind on her strongest town and strongest scum reads.

#I'mAPot
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 1:36:57 PM
#234
Leo3L posted...
Oh yeah, Boko targeted Red N1 and Shad N2


:/
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 1:28:33 PM
#223
My Immortal posted...
VeryInsane posted...
Nana has generally been abrasive as hell about meta. I feel like that's been a trend the last few games

Yeah Nana is a huge meta player. He tries to use outside information whenever he can


I don't read or watch Game of Thrones I have no flavor knowledge outside of my role and past games and what happened during the last episode of the most recent season, which is the only episode I've seen.

I'm sure everyone remembers the GOT2 flavor scanning fiasco.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 12:55:29 PM
#204
Leafeon13N posted...
Nanahara715 posted...

No fucking shit. Why did you feel you needed to derail the conversation by making a three paragraph post comparing your flavor to KBM's?


The fact no one has ever brought it up is far more interesting to me than the content itself. And i didn't derail a conversation, i wanted to try to start more conversation.


About... flavor... that could have been on the safelist...?
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 12:51:13 PM
#202
Leafeon13N posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Leafeon13N posted...
Also i was curious if anyone was going to mention it but kbm and i claimed randyll and samwell tarly

Obviously, these two characters don't get along. But it totally feels like a possible host trap. Especially since we'd be the only family(outside scum) with two characters in the game to my knowledge.

Curious what other people think on the flavor claim because i was curious why no one brought it up.


I don't know the flavor, but why couldn't one or both of these be on the safelist?

She claimed before you and you didn't say anything then, if this is that important to you.


Also that first statement is completely nonsensical. Literally every flavor claim could have been on the safe list.


No fucking shit. Why did you feel you needed to derail the conversation by making a three paragraph post comparing your flavor to KBM's?
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 12:50:04 PM
#201
Leafeon13N posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Leafeon13N posted...
Also i was curious if anyone was going to mention it but kbm and i claimed randyll and samwell tarly

Obviously, these two characters don't get along. But it totally feels like a possible host trap. Especially since we'd be the only family(outside scum) with two characters in the game to my knowledge.

Curious what other people think on the flavor claim because i was curious why no one brought it up.


I don't know the flavor, but why couldn't one or both of these be on the safelist?

She claimed before you and you didn't say anything then, if this is that important to you.


Its not that important or I'd have brought it up by now. It is more idle curiosity.


Wut.

You're wondering why no one brought it up, but it's not that important?
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 12:38:29 PM
#195
Leafeon13N posted...
Also i was curious if anyone was going to mention it but kbm and i claimed randyll and samwell tarly

Obviously, these two characters don't get along. But it totally feels like a possible host trap. Especially since we'd be the only family(outside scum) with two characters in the game to my knowledge.

Curious what other people think on the flavor claim because i was curious why no one brought it up.


I don't know the flavor, but why couldn't one or both of these be on the safelist?

She claimed before you and you didn't say anything then, if this is that important to you.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 12:34:44 PM
#193
Leafeon13N posted...
Btw people have been able to look at those setups more than i have did suprak use any roles that were just meta bait? Ie godfathers with no cop or things like that.


Chris was actively pissed at the end of GOT2 because as "Jack of All Upgrades", he could be upgraded X times for killing X "Kings, and had abilities for each one, but there were only (X-1) Kings in the game so he said host lied about the setup.

Godfather that game was also murky because there was no cop, but a flavor scanner.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 12:20:54 PM
#184
Leafeon13N posted...
htaeD posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
I have a list of statement from various players - would like to know who doesn't agree with the following:

1) Nana and Immy are not scum together
2) Nana and KBM are not scum together
3) Leo is town
4) Puns is town
5) Nana and VI are not scum together


I cant exclude/accept 1 or 2 with any certainty
I do agree with the rest though
maybe Leo could be indy, but thats not a road I am willing to cross yet


Why would we ever cross the leo indy line. Hes literally not SK and hes recruited a billion twn. Its not something that would ever, ever, be up for discussion in this game.


"Your opinion on whether or not the role makes sense as Indy means absolutely fuckall when the host has used such a role in a comparable manner in previous games"
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 12:16:53 PM
#182
Rereading topic 1:

KBM says "Prevailing wisdom is Nana is scum but I disagree," but by my count only Dowolf and VI had indicated they felt I was Town.

Red calls me the easiest lynch and VI calls him out for never having played with me in a game where I've gotten lynched.

Han says he doesn't like KBM and says jumping on me was a scum move because I would be easy to lynch.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 11:53:45 AM
#176
My Immortal posted...
And if Chris didn't get vig shot & Leo & Stan co-outed Shad... I think they would have utterly dominated.

Red having no presence might be due to the game flipping on him as hard as it did dejectinghim


Don't get me wrong, I just remember it being said, and it's fully possible it was just a #subtlebrag.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 11:52:51 AM
#175
Post 45 this topic was where I noticed KBM not being consistent/being confusing. That's what led to the cascade.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 11:48:39 AM
#173
Chris made a fleeting comment somewhere about how if he and Red were scum together, they would utterly dominate.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 11:36:49 AM
#169
My Immortal posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Just realized that 8!/6!2! <30. Hmm.

what


It means the game is small enough I can put all possible town/scum combinations in a spreadsheet and view it as a single page.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 11:28:50 AM
#168
I have a list of statement from various players - would like to know who doesn't agree with the following:

1) Nana and Immy are not scum together
2) Nana and KBM are not scum together
3) Leo is town
4) Puns is town
5) Nana and VI are not scum together
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 11:26:00 AM
#165
My Immortal posted...
##Unvote:

Thinking if KBM might be better way to go. This is the kind of fire I'm used to seeing in town Nana, but is he only forcing it now because he's on the chopping block.

Planning to re-read the topic/pages in question to ensure that Nana's account is accurate, but as stated it is sounding right to me.


I'm aware enough of the situation to know this is self serving, but scum Nana wouldnprobably have rolled over and just died.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 11:13:34 AM
#163
Just realized that 8!/6!2! <30. Hmm.
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TopicHave you ever met someone who denies the dinosaurs ever existed?
Nanahara715
06/23/17 11:07:15 AM
#11
I was discussing genetic modifications with a coworker, and the following conversation took place:

Me: "Yeah, all I really want is for them to recreate the passenger pigeon and the triceratops."
Her: "The what?"
Me: "the passenger pigeon, it was a..."
Her: "No, the other thing."
Me: "The triceratops?"
Her: "Yeah, that's not an animal."
Me: "it's a three horned dinosaur."
Her: "No it isn't. There's no such thing."

Completely serious, I brought in TWO additional coworkers, and NEITHER knew what a triceratops was.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 10:52:55 AM
#160
EVEN MORESO when Stan's vote on me specifically was to counter his lynch and this vote moved Death onto Stan and MI off of me, so it isn't like it was a subtle vote- Stan's vote garnered a fuck ton of attention and action and precipitated him needing to claim.

How you bungle this is fucking beyond me.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 10:50:48 AM
#159
Furthermore would argue that KBM indicating she's made a mistake after claiming to be detailed would be further evidence she didn't even write her own post, something I postulated earlier. I've never played with KBM before but she's certainly never given me the impression she's capable of doing this.

Actually,

Vengeful_KBM posted...
You're being pedantic in an attempt to comically misconstrue my point. I didn't say the lynch on you was ever going to be a success, I'm literally just talking about the specific timing of votes - especially Han's.

I may have mentally transposed Stan and Shad's votes at some point, admittedly.
Their names look very similar. I suppose you think that means they should have been modkilled for confusing us.


Bold may have been ok if Shad and Stan voted around the same time, but someone who actually took a detailed look at topic 3 would see that the starting votals for the day ALREADY HAVE SHAD ON THEM. Even moreso, Shad's involvement topic 3 was minimal (stated earlier).

FURTHERMORE, KBM is STILL pushing this narrative DESPITE admitting/claiming that she had confused Stan (town) and Shad (scum) posts
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 10:41:57 AM
#158
My Immortal posted...
I will go re-read, but from memory Nana's accounting seems more legit. People occasionally mentioned him but he was never really up for lynch.

However

I also don't know if that's damning KBM as manipulating things or if it's just KBM misremembering.

This kind of makes me doubt Nana/KBM as a team but part of me wonders if this could be a show.


This flies in the face of KBM's first post of the day, which I can't quote because it's too long. But she literally says she "took detailed notes starting at topic 3." She then bungles the entire juxtaposition of the last four pages of topic 3 in a way that, at this point, is intentional to make me look bad.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 9:46:29 AM
#155
Like, people have said I haven't been cohesive and have been all over the place, and I'm not going to deny that because it's true. But I'm not going to get ramrodded through and lynched because someone like KBM decided to make up a whole scenario and lie to everyone in the game and cross her fingers no one would actually go back and read the archives.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 9:42:44 AM
#154
Vengeful_KBM posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
KBM: Probably also scum based on how she's misconstruing and making stuff up. She claims that "Nana has suspected me all game and done nothing", when she's done the same thing. Claims that Puns/Shad were covering for me day 1, but that's not true when you go back and read both the games and the votals, even if I were scum.


So let me just respond to this once and for all; I don't think I need to go wading through the archives again for this really.

- I'm not misconstruing anything or making anything up. If either one of us is doing this, it's you.
- When I say you've "done nothing" I specifically mean with your vote. Which you haven't. And you haven't addressed this any of the times I've brought it up, either.
- I never claimed Puns was doing anything, Puns is town. You're getting wrapped up in your own lies. Han is the one who in hindsight cast a vote that may have been partially to counter the pressure that was mounting on you at the time. The pressure was NOT all in votes - a lot of people were talking about how bad you looked at the very same time. This is what I have been trying to make clear. The votals are secondary to this.


Specifically here on the bold:

There was no pressure on me when Han voted. The lynch on me had already been declared dead by KBM herself.

This is topic 3 page 9.

Please go and read this so you can see her lies and how she's trying to spin bullshit solely to mislynch me.

##Unvote
##Vote: KBM


Still think Immy is scum.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/23/17 9:34:36 AM
#153
Vengeful_KBM posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
KBM: Probably also scum based on how she's misconstruing and making stuff up. She claims that "Nana has suspected me all game and done nothing", when she's done the same thing. Claims that Puns/Shad were covering for me day 1, but that's not true when you go back and read both the games and the votals, even if I were scum.


So let me just respond to this once and for all; I don't think I need to go wading through the archives again for this really.

- I'm not misconstruing anything or making anything up. If either one of us is doing this, it's you.
- When I say you've "done nothing" I specifically mean with your vote. Which you haven't. And you haven't addressed this any of the times I've brought it up, either.
- I never claimed Puns was doing anything, Puns is town. You're getting wrapped up in your own lies. Han is the one who in hindsight cast a vote that may have been partially to counter the pressure that was mounting on you at the time. The pressure was NOT all in votes - a lot of people were talking about how bad you looked at the very same time. This is what I have been trying to make clear. The votals are secondary to this.


I mean, I don't know what else to say here other than this is just a straight up fucking lie.

Topic 3 page 9, I'm not quoting every single post on the page, but:

P412: KBM unvotes me. This is the LAST vote on me, so I have ZERO votes on me at this point.

P427: KBM says: "Sorry, I'm multi-tasking at the moment but it's clear that the Nana lynch just isn't going to go anywhere today. My full attention will be back on this in a bit, but I'll be able to keep up with what's happening."

It isn't until P432, AFTER EVERYONE IS OFF MY TRAIN, including KBM who has already declared "Nana lynch isn't doing anything" that Han votes for Puns.

Han started the Stan train way earlier and the previous 100 posts are Stan and Han talking about Stan. This was way before I came into the discussion.

Shad isn't even involved in any of this.

Hell, if ANYONE is defraying for me, it's Death who says (P335) he would vote for Stan over me (and later does on P358) and MI who LITERALLY UNVOTED ME when Stan tried to push me as the counter to his lynch (P374).

Summary

-KBM claims Han and Shad covered for me day 1 when I was being discussed, by moving the lynch to Puns.

-This isn't true because my lynch was declared dead (by literal KBM) before Han moved to Puns.

-Shad commented about wanting to lynch Puns (who he was already on) in P417, AFTER KBM has unvoted and I have zero votes.

None of what KBM is spouting makes sense, but if no one is going to go back and read fucking topic 3 pages 7, 8, and 9, then who the fuck cares?
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/22/17 9:26:54 PM
#117
bng_mmmk posted...
home now, and sober!

had a stray thought bouncing around today:

DoomTheGyarados - Victarion Greyjoy, GREYJOY Persistant Strongman Vigilante

I've only ever seen strongman or assassin or vigilante, never strongman vigilante on the same role. I'm thinking any shot from Chris might have been a strongman shot, and the vigilante part indicated he had one extra shot?


I considered that this is a rolecop equivalent Godfather... right? Rolecop hits Chris, he scans as a Vig, and why would Mafia have a Vig?

There's no rolecop though.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/22/17 8:49:51 PM
#110
My Immortal posted...
I think my opinions have been made super clear

Town:
VI
Death
Leo
Puns

Scum in here:
Nana
KBM
Red


So we are both saying [the other person], KBM, then Red?
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/22/17 7:37:59 PM
#101
Leo3L posted...
Before today ends, everyone should make their opinion known on every other player.


MI: Scum. Too much protection.

KBM: Probably also scum based on how she's misconstruing and making stuff up. She claims that "Nana has suspected me all game and done nothing", when she's done the same thing. Claims that Puns/Shad were covering for me day 1, but that's not true when you go back and read both the games and the votals, even if I were scum.

Red: don't like how he misconstrued my statements on Leo. If KBM isn't scum, it's Red.

VI: I feel reasonably fine on VI, considering I feel he hasnt done anything. Honestly, he's a lot like MI minus the protection claim - they ended day 1 together on Dowolf, they both MLd Dowolf day 2, they both gunned for me yesterday. Meh.

Leo: I think he's probably an Indy, but that doesn't really matter because there's no reason to lynch him anyways. Having even numbers means scum can't benefit from a quick hammer and they can't shoot him.

Death and Puns im putting together - could really go either way. I liked Puns yesterday, got paranoid, like him more now. I'll buy Death 100% if we see a roleblocker flip.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/22/17 7:19:11 PM
#98
VeryInsane posted...
...I'm just never gonna get anything from Nana am I D:


Stuff changes as new information is gained. Just because someone may appear Town or scum one day doesn't mean that read is absolute. You are only confirmed the moment you flip.

The way I view the game based on the information I have available to me indicates that MI is probably scum.

I think it's less likely you and MI are a thing than MI and KBM. I don't believe 3 scum are still alive.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/22/17 6:12:03 PM
#95
Vengeful_KBM posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
"Confirmed scum" are Chris, Han, and Shad, and none of them moved to Puns at the end of the day from me or shifted focus away from me.


As I said earlier, the timing of the push on Puns by Shad and Han took a lot of the attention off of your lynch. That's a documented fact that you can look up in the archives.


I posted votals from when this happened.


VengefulKaelee posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Vengeful_KBM posted...
Every time I have interacted with Nana he has misconstrued what I meant. At this point it HAS to be intentional. My interactions with everybody else have been much more straightforward.


Then point out specifically where your argument is in the votals.

You said "The archives show this" and I'm saying they don't and showing the votals. So what's your argument?


I can do this later if you really want. I never once talked about the votals themselves. You copy/pasting them has nothing to do with anything and you are willfully ignoring things I'm saying today by hyper- focusing on a comment I've already tried to contextualize for you.

But hmm I wonder why you're ignoring what I'm actually saying. Scum scum scum.


Yes, do this.

And it's like you ignored the annotations and comments about what was happening during that time. You're grasping at straws here.
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TopicA Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 10 - Fire Consumes, But Cold Preserves
Nanahara715
06/22/17 5:14:46 PM
#92
My Immortal posted...
Leo3L posted...
My Immortal posted...
Why do you think my play isn't town Leo?

Also were you in Skyrim Mafia?


I've mentioned this several times today, I'll quote it later because I have to run

I think so. I recall being a serial killer who was paranoid poisoned N1. That was pretty unfun so I don't think I read the whole game. Why?

I can go look for your post

But I was mislynched (AS COP) D4 because "MI hasn't led on scum yet"

And this is feeling eerily familiar to me.


I know, right? Scum went all in on me as a ML on MYLO-1 and got a fucking surprise.
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