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Given how many times you've typed "Miller" this game, shouldn't you be aware of that?
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MZero11 posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

MZero11 posted...

You explained yourself how Glenn makes sense as Town and why he doesn't make sense as scum

You also explained how the Dragoons make sense as scum

Glenn = Dragoon (scum) who is friendly with Serge and friends (Town)

This is literally a perfect fit for a miller claim and I don't understand how you can think it doesn't make sense

I'm sorry, a miller what?

Lol my phone must have auto completed that in there. That's not a good look

Quote a post by you where you typed "Miller claim" such that your phone would autocorrect.
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MZero11 posted...

You explained yourself how Glenn makes sense as Town and why he doesn't make sense as scum

You also explained how the Dragoons make sense as scum

Glenn = Dragoon (scum) who is friendly with Serge and friends (Town)

This is literally a perfect fit for a miller claim and I don't understand how you can think it doesn't make sense

I'm sorry, a miller what?
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Whatisurname-

PJ - do you lean town or scum?
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whatisurnameplz posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

whatisurnameplz posted...

Ok I'll bold it to make it clear

##Vote: MZero

Glenn's being a miller doesn't make sense because you never are given a reason to consider him an enemy during the game. You never fight him, you first see him in the game watching over someone's grave (i think, it could be a memorial), heck he's even named after Frog from CT, a character who's all about good and justice. There's far better choices for one. With Riddel, I don't think you ever fight here either but in the game you see here spending a lot more time with the enemy; it's a lot more clear she's alligned with them.

1) Nothing suggests Dragoons as mafia team.

2) Your argument here is that MZero picked a character that doesn't make sense as a miller to claim?

If he were the only miller, maybe I'd accept it. But I highly doubt we have two millers in one game.

Also, I never mentioned the Dragoons once there.

whatisurnameplz posted...

Ok exams are done,time to catch up and talk about what's been going on so far. I'll comment as I catch up.

MZero11 posted...

##Vote: whatisurnameplz

very opportunistic vote on me. Smelled blood and went all in trying to secure a Day 1 mislynch. Scummy move

I feel ok with Ulti right now just because that would be a ballsy move as scum. He's the self proclaimed "easiest guy to read" so if he's scum it will be obvious soon enough anyway

I don't trust that there are two millers in this game. Doesn't make any sense to me. One of you or Ulti is lying, and I trust you less at the moment.

*sees corrik's claim*

Three millers? Neofio's a weird flavor for that. Now I don't know what to think. I wanna say Corrik is town because I doubt scum would claim miller like that without catching up first, it'd be too risky for them...but if he's scum and made that claim anyway he's benefitting from the chaos.

Ulti the rules say metagaming is discouraged. it doesn't matter what corrik did in the past; not listening to what he has to say by ignoring him is anti-town.

I don't like oddity's vote on VI, and based on VI's response he seems town to me.

Nana on thinking my reasoning doesn't make sense, think of it this way. When the Town Cop scans a miller, they come up guilty despite being innocent. For the purposes of this game, I'm assuming town is anybody that's aligned with Serge in Chrono Cross that Serge never has to fight. In game, you never are given a reason to think Glenn is an enemy, you never fight him, he's always friendly. Riddel at least associates with the Dragoons, who do fight against Serge at some point so they could potentially be scum then, a lot, she's Viper's daughter for crying out loud. But she never actually plots against Serge and company. That's why I think Riddel is the better miller claim.

pj's trolling with that claim, and I don't like it one bit. No flavor either.

Terra I wasn't hiding under the radar, i was studying for a very important final. I said I would catch up again once my finals were over.

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whatisurnameplz posted...

Ok exams are done,time to catch up and talk about what's been going on so far. I'll comment as I catch up.

MZero11 posted...

##Vote: whatisurnameplz

very opportunistic vote on me. Smelled blood and went all in trying to secure a Day 1 mislynch. Scummy move

I feel ok with Ulti right now just because that would be a ballsy move as scum. He's the self proclaimed "easiest guy to read" so if he's scum it will be obvious soon enough anyway

I don't trust that there are two millers in this game. Doesn't make any sense to me. One of you or Ulti is lying, and I trust you less at the moment.

*sees corrik's claim*

Three millers? Neofio's a weird flavor for that. Now I don't know what to think. I wanna say Corrik is town because I doubt scum would claim miller like that without catching up first, it'd be too risky for them...but if he's scum and made that claim anyway he's benefitting from the chaos.

Ulti the rules say metagaming is discouraged. it doesn't matter what corrik did in the past; not listening to what he has to say by ignoring him is anti-town.

I don't like oddity's vote on VI, and based on VI's response he seems town to me.

Nana on thinking my reasoning doesn't make sense, think of it this way. When the Town Cop scans a miller, they come up guilty despite being innocent. For the purposes of this game, I'm assuming town is anybody that's aligned with Serge in Chrono Cross that Serge never has to fight. In game, you never are given a reason to think Glenn is an enemy, you never fight him, he's always friendly. Riddel at least associates with the Dragoons, who do fight against Serge at some point so they could potentially be scum then, a lot, she's Viper's daughter for crying out loud. But she never actually plots against Serge and company. That's why I think Riddel is the better miller claim.

pj's trolling with that claim, and I don't like it one bit. No flavor either.

Terra I wasn't hiding under the radar, i was studying for a very important final. I said I would catch up again once my finals were over.

Fuck this noise. You don't get to call me out for saying that you never mentioned Dragoons, then come back and clarify here that you were talking about the Dragoons and that I was right contextually.
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Lots of defense for PJ not coming from PJ himself.

PJs fourth and fifth posts seem forced, almost as though someone said "PJ you have to post or you're going to get lynched for inactivity."
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Corrik and PJ are clearly joking around with their claims. MZero was trying to copy Scare's strategy and got caught. There is no doubt in my mind that Glenn is not a freaking town miller claim.

Comedy Option: MZero isn't Glenn and is some town power role and Glenn is on the mafia safelist, ala Monster Mafia 1.
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VeryInsane posted...

Hey Nana since you are CE and most likely Town what do you think of

Terra
IGCD

... oh I guess it's just those two since sheep hasn't posted and everyone else isn't CE

Ambivalent
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VeryInsane posted...

Yeah I agree with you, would definitely peg IGCD as the scummier of the two. Demeanor at the beginning was a bit too tryhard and has done little since

(Though he promised more content at the end of 16 hours and it's close to 16 hours later?)

This is par for his course.
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VeryInsane posted...

pj may be scum

If he does nothing today Lynch him tomorrow IMO

Fuck this noise. If he does nothing today, lynch him today.

Literally PJ comes in, joke posts miller, then says lol3millers and that's all. Don't let him skate for shits and giggles.
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PJ is obviously joking about being a miller, but that doesn't make his second post where he implies he just read the topic in less than 6 minutes any less disengenuous.
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pjbasis posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Makes me feel like the second post is wildly disengenuous.

Ur mom is wildly disengenious

My mother quotes Breitbart as a source for why climate change isn't a thing, so a she much as this statement is true, it doesn't change my opinion of your posts.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Rather, your second post implies you hadn't read the game at the time of you right first post.

5:30 later, or 330 seconds, to read 150+ posts, or reading 1 post every 2.2 seconds.

Seems fast. Makes me feel like the second post is wildly disengenuous. Either a straight lie, or you're just skimming and not really looking for content. I don't like either of those situations.

This is to PJ
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Rather, your second post implies you hadn't read the game at the time of you right first post.

5:30 later, or 330 seconds, to read 150+ posts, or reading 1 post every 2.2 seconds.

Seems fast. Makes me feel like the second post is wildly disengenuous. Either a straight lie, or you're just skimming and not really looking for content. I don't like either of those situations.
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pjbasis posted...

Holy shit I just realized there were 3 Miller claims before me.

Hoooooly shit I did not have this information before now

You read the whole game in 6 minutes o_O
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eaedwards6400 posted...

ALSO, HAVING SOMEONE IGNORED IS CONSIDERED NOT PLAYING TO WIN. @UltimaterializerX HAS UNTIL TOMORROW TO PROVE CORRIK IS NO LONGER IGNORED, REPLACE OUT, OR BE MODKILLED.

Part of me wants to believe that this is not host confirmed Ulti town but I don't see it. Having someone on ignore is detrimental to town, not scum, so for Ulti to not be "playing to win" makes me think he's town and host is calling him out for actions severely detrimental to his team (ie town).

Allegedly this implies Corrik town, but not as strongly, because a town player ignoring scum isn't a big deal.

This also modconfirms Corrik/Ulti not both scum, or this would be a scum gambit that host is either a) intentionally ignoring or b) purposefully misleading town.

This should have been a PM, not a mod post
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You can abbreviate me as Nana.
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benjamin3740 posted...

What's considered an "enemy" in Chrono Cross? Because whatisurname said after that that he wasnt talking about Dragoons. But Riddel is a dragoon's daughter right?

Yes? I mean, he later says he never mentioned the Dragoons, which while technically true, he alludes to it ("Riddel spends a lot of time with the enemy", where "enemy" here clearly refers to the Dragoons, even if Dragoons is never explicitly typed.)
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whatisurnameplz posted...

Ok I'll bold it to make it clear

##Vote: MZero

Glenn's being a miller doesn't make sense because you never are given a reason to consider him an enemy during the game. You never fight him, you first see him in the game watching over someone's grave (i think, it could be a memorial), heck he's even named after Frog from CT, a character who's all about good and justice. There's far better choices for one. With Riddel, I don't think you ever fight here either but in the game you see here spending a lot more time with the enemy; it's a lot more clear she's alligned with them.

On an aside, this makes zero sense. "Glenn isn't a miller because he isn't a bad guy" is literally what a miller is (i.e. Not a bad guy).
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I mean, just random numbers tells us that there's a 58% chance at least one of Ulti & Corrik are mafia, 42% that they are both town, and an 9% chance they are both mafia.

About a 1.7% chance this is a scum gamble by VI/Corrik/Ulti.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

And I refuse to buy Glenn as a miller. He's probably the most popular party member other than Serge in the entire game and he has no real basis for being a miller in this game. It's also a perfect safelist miller claim because no one in their right mind would lynch that.

You refuse to buy Glenn as miller while acknowledging that Glenn would be a perfect safelist miller claim?

Bigger elephant in the room- saying Glenn would be on the safelist.

Glenn is a Dragoon - why would that be a safelist flavor and not just his flavor?
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Karsh
Marcy
Zoah
Luccia
Radius(?)
Orcha(?)
Glenn

Riddel not technically a dragoon
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VeryInsane posted...

I'm just explaining possible reasoning for both miller flavors

Which... is actually pretty dumb because they can explain it

whoops

I know, right? And MZero straight up refused to give flavor for why he's miller.
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Like, if I were putting money on mafia, I'd pick Lynx and that harlequin chick.
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VeryInsane posted...

There have been important festivities taking place at Viper Manor. Many quests are coming from around the world and El Nino?s most powerful beings are coming together to get an eye on this Frozen Flame. However it was during this night that,

eaed has been killed! He was Viper, DRAGOONS General!

Glenn was a dragoon, and Riddel is Viper's daughter

How about we just let their play do the talking

So... the host was a "mafia" who died? How does that make sense for opening flavor? Makes me think third party/host or something.

It'd be like "eaed has died. He was MAFIA host" which makes no fucking sense
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whatisurnameplz posted...

Ok I'll bold it to make it clear

##Vote: MZero

Glenn's being a miller doesn't make sense because you never are given a reason to consider him an enemy during the game. You never fight him, you first see him in the game watching over someone's grave (i think, it could be a memorial), heck he's even named after Frog from CT, a character who's all about good and justice. There's far better choices for one. With Riddel, I don't think you ever fight here either but in the game you see here spending a lot more time with the enemy; it's a lot more clear she's alligned with them.

1) Nothing suggests Dragoons as mafia team.

2) Your argument here is that MZero picked a character that doesn't make sense as a miller to claim?
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VeryInsane posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Why does anyone think Riddel or Glen make sense as millers?

Opening flavor heavily suggests scum team is Acacia Dragoons

im not seeing it. Why?
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Sceptilesolar posted...

I don't like people bolding non-votes. Can we not do that?

Thinking about it a bit more, it feels more likely that either both Ulti and MZero are Town or both are Scum. The fact that MZero refused to repudiate Ulti seem a little off to me if it was an effective counterclaim.

If peeps ain't gonna answer my inquiries, I will call attention to said inquiries.
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MZero11 posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Why does anyone think Riddel or Glen make sense as millers?

my role pm is pretty convincing

Awesome. Since I can read your role PM, this perfectly explains my question. Thanks broseph.
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Why does anyone think Riddel or Glen make sense as millers?
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whatisurnameplz posted...

##Vote: MZero

Knowing chrono cross characters pretty well, I can safely say Riddel has better reason to be a miller, being the daughter of Viper, than Glenn.

Can you elaborate?
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benjamin3740 posted...

MZero11 posted...

I'm Glenn, Miller

hello everyone

FLAVOR ANALYSISTS get on this

Now Mzero was in the last game where Scare claimed Miller day 1 and basically had a free ride to end game. Question is, would that encourage a guy like Mzero to follow in ze footsteps, or would he feel it brings back too many memories of ScumScare to claim it...

Which game? Last game I remember from MZero was when he wasn't healer in Puns' Crystal Chronicles game
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Does anyone have an archived game of eaedward's? Interested in seeing the balance
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##Vote: PJ

Scum team VI, Scept, Red, PJ.
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Confirm
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eaedwards6400 posted...

I was hoping for Monday.

+1
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Post a link on the forum mafia board, you may get some takers.
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Inviso posted...

Eddv posted...

Inviso posted...

The pattern continues (and cannot possibly continue any longer)! Also, Michaela bringing props to tribal council is always hilarious.

Also interesting here is Aubry literally said this.

I just want to make sure, people understand I'm referring to the Hali, 1st merge boot, Ozzy, 2nd merge boot, Debbie, 3rd merge boot pattern, right?

Hali wasn't the 1st merge boot in her original season?
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Depends on your income.

My household brings in 130,000 combined. We pay 1% of that per month ($1300) on the mortgage.
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From this post, I can't tell if you're a man or a woman.
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http://www.11alive.com/news/local/6-year-old-injured-at-sun-dial-rotating-restaurant/431388926

The Sun Dial is a restaurant in Atlanta that rotates atop a tower at an angular velocity of 1 Rotation per Hour while you eat. Child got stuck between the floor and a wall and suffered fatal head trauma.
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Currently dropped just shy of 4%, for a 900 million dollar market cap hit.
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Down 4%, 900 million dollar hit.
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Looks like their stock is doubling way down today.

Down 6% overnight, regained some traction at Day start, but is down 3% right now, costing them >600 million in market capitalization.
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*sign* if it's not too late.
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