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Squalls Jacket and Vincent Super. Both dupes

I saw a Wings of Mercy Hector that was pretty scary when he was suddenly amidst all my units

I know that Walmart basically never check returns. They give zero f***s. I have known people to buy a PS3 or PS4 controller because theirs broke. Then return the broken one to Walmart.

Got my first 40 today in Karel. Jaffar will likely be 40 today too. Nowi is like 35 or 36 so a day or two off. Ninian is such a pain to grind up, she's only like 32 or 33 and has never left my team. Wish you got experience for assists like healers get experience for healing.

Karel and Jaffar seem like such glass cannons. I think Karel would really benefit from Vantage but I forget if that overrides something he already has

I mean here's my logic behind trading down for the extra pick (keep in mind all my previous draft trades were before the draft prospects were posted)

Needs (what the game says I have to have): OT, FS, HB

OT - 13 in 1st and 2nd round split fairly evenly. FA's 79 unless you go old. Current OT's ages 29-32
FS - 5 but all 2nd rounders. FA's 80. Current FS age 27
HB's- 7 in the 1st and 2nd round. Bulk 1st rounders. FA's lots of high 80's. Current HB ages 27 and 29

I have 3 1st rounders but no 2nd. With so many OT many available in the draft I'm not going to have issues grabbing one even if I give up my highest pick. Due to the lack of good FS's in FA, I basically have to grab one in the draft but there's none in the 1st round, I'd likely have to reach unless I grab a 2nd from somewhere. HB's are a dime a dozen so don't need to be addressed in the draft but it's always an option.

So by trading down it lets me basically grab an OT in the 1st, grab a FS in the 2nd and use the other 2 1sts for either best available or maybe one of my aging positions or weak depth positions

Granted I know it's not my side of the trade that is under scrutiny but that's why I was more than willing to give up my highest 1st

If people care that much about the trade then veto it. I don't care either way, I only made the offer because he posted in the thread. We are divisional rivals who have been neck and neck going into week 17 the last 2 years, not like we would agree to a trade where we weren't getting what we thought was beneficial to us.

I mean god knows what value picks have, we have seen such varying values on them.

We've seen a 3rd rounder to go from 18 to 10
We've seen a late 2nd take someone 31 to 19
We are saying a mid 2nd rounder is too much for 24 to 16

We have seen 19th pick and a 3rd get 3x 2nd rounders and a 7th
We have seen the 16th pick get a 2nd, 3rd and 2x 4ths and a 7th

All of those trades seem to value picks at wildly different values despite involving a lot of the same teams

Yshtola Burst
Yuna Chaos Rod
Ovelia Super (Dupe)
Vanille Super (Dupe)

Well that went pretty much as good as I could have hoped for!

Lopen posted...

Ya know I got to thinking about it after recently watching Rumble 2015's triple threat.

I think the bigger reason for me being soured on Seth Rollins was changing his finish more than his face character being garbage.

Curb Stomp existing made his matches like 10x better. So many neat setups for it and just a fierce looking finish. Transition to the pedigree, one of the worst finishes in wrestling this side of Roll The Dice and Overdrive, and it single handedly makes his matches a lot less exciting.

We'll always have that Curb Stomp RKO!

Oh wow, was able to jump into the level 30 one on the drive to work and then try it as I pulled up. Didn't realize that 1 death equals game over though. Damnit, could have beaten it easily but was trying to rush it before work

It's an overpay by the Browns but clearly there's someone he wants higher up and I wouldn't take just the 3rd rounder for the trade up and have no interest in the HB (literally just released a similar HB)

And as I have 3x 1st rounders but no obvious first team needs (I'm drafting for backups / future), I don't have any real need to trade.

All the rewards for the silly anniversary games.

Well the fairest thing to do would be to give each player X amounts of attempts at it during a 24 hour period rather than only opening for 45 minutes at a ridiculous time.

Think I remember seeing somewhere we'd be getting 100+ mythril as part of the anniversary? If so I should have well in excess of 300 mythril so I think I'll be fine!

Couldn't resist pulling as I had 80+ orbs and I don't have a lot of units.

Nothing I really wanted but still a pretty good pull I think. Glad I did the second pull as Cain/Lucius/Caeda all came on the second pull.

5* Cain (Spd-/Def+)
5* Lucius (HP-/Spd+)
4* Hana (HP-/Spd+)
4* Caeda (HP-/Res+)
4* Subaki (Res-/Def+)
3* Gordin (Spd-/HP+)
3* Setsuna (HP-/Res+)
3* Setsuna (Def-/HP+)
3* Cherche (Res-/ATk+)
3* Sophia (Atk-/Def+)

So now I have 5x 5*'s off I think 6 pulls. Even if 2 of those 5*'s are pretty bad.

Trade to annouce

Brown receives
Packers 1st (Pick 16) via Steelers

Steelers receive
Brown 1st (Pick 24)
Chiefs 2nd (Pick 44) via Browns

Oh well I guess this is useful then

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yFRSeXaCFv6Z9ieqOLfZNaCC1uKJqpU9BZZNVuLZCos/

So this skill inheritance thing, the unit you lose has to be able to learn the skill to transfer?

So for example, the 2* Matthew you start off with has Poison Strike 1/2/3 learned at 3/4/5*. If I want to give Poison Strike 3 to Jaffar, the Matthew has to be 5*? Because when I try feed him to Jaffar as a 2* no Poison Strikes turn up.

Also are we due a new banner soon? I got up to 60 orbs and want to roll but already have 3 of the focus characters on this banner so don't want to roll on it again.

Oh, I assumed I had seen an old advert and missed it. So that's at least positive that I'm early rather than late.

What I would say to people rerolling is don't set your sights on anyone in particular who isn't a focus character. I probably did a solid 200-250 rerolls and never once saw Hector, Takumi, Lucina, etc. I saw 1 Azura but it was on a garbage roll. You very rarely see 5*'s that aren't focus and are high in the tier rankings which makes sense since each focus character is like 0.5% chance whereas the others are like 3% divided by the number of 5*'s possible which is a lot.

I'd say reroll on a PC (it takes 3-5 mins) and settle on an account that has either multiple 5*'s or a 5* with solid 4*'s. You get like 50 orbs straight away so can do 2 rolls and can get to a 3rd roll in like 15-20 mins if you have an account that looks promising.

Can't be bothered doing the actual math but quick head math says you get 2x 5*'s off 2 multi-pulls roughly every 11-12 rerolls

Logged in after like a month plus of not playing because Facebook told me Goku Black summon was on. Find there's no Goku Black summon. Lame!

Do we do draft then free agency? For some reason I thought it was the other way around which makes no sense but isn't that how the NFL does it in real life?

Not that I'm complaining, would far rather do the draft first

yazzy14 posted...

ShatteredElysium posted...

A similar CB to the one he's receiving in return is likely available in free agency and it would also give him better flexibility as he could grab a lesser CB for cap space or draft one.

However to get a 23 year old CB who is a 75 overall will likely cost him more than the 2 years at about $2 million per year that he gets this CB for. Or it is a draft pick that he doesn't need to devote to a CB because he has a young, decent CB at 4th string for the next two years.

I doubt it would to be honest.

I have a 25 year old 73 CB on last year of contract (i.e. the expensive year) for 1.74m. He was signed at 73 rating.
I have a 26 year old 81 CB on second year of contract on 2.74m this year. He signed the contract at 80 rating.

So he'd be looking at the 1.5-2m range on open market I think. KCF can probably confirm better than I can but the CB he's getting in return isn't really worth anything imo. That CB being included in the deal is better for Jukkie than Wiki imo.

I'm not opposed to the trade and definitely not vetoing, I just think Wiki could have got a better deal.

I think it would make more sense if Wiki was doing it for a pick straight up (either that pick or like a 3rd or something). A similar CB to the one he's receiving in return is likely available in free agency and it would also give him better flexibility as he could grab a lesser CB for cap space or draft one.

Buuuut the other thing to consider is that Jukkie doesn't desperately need an 81 CB (His CB's right now are 82/80/75/73). So it's not like he's going to give up the world for an 81 CB. I think it's slightly in Jukkie's favor but not massively.

I don't think you can put 1st round grades on 81 CB's. They're 2nd to 3rd on most people depths charts, more 3rd than 2nd. If 81 CBs are worth 1st rounders, I'll happily trade away any of my 3 81's. Like maybe 2nd rounders. I think KCF said in the past that the lack of good CBs isn't due to them not coming out of the draft, it's because we're a pass heavy league so they don't develop due to constantly getting torched and the way Madden handles rating increases.

theawesomestevr posted...

I see both sides of it. If the roster sheet was removed, I'd like players to remain ordered by position (instead of years left). Otherwise, it's fine the way it is.

This.

You could set up conditional formatting to let you know years remaining at a glance. Either that or just use the sort/filter function (might already be there)

Also it would be better if instead of it saying QB Eli Manning (84), it was 3 seperate cells. One saying QB, one saying Eli Manning, one saying 84. That way it's easier to sort. But if it's easier for you to just do it all one cell, keep doing it that way.

Aren't the new dailies that come soon better than orbfest so you'd be better saving refreshes for them?

Just got another with 2x 5* (Camilla and Jaffar). Guess I'll do quests to get 12 more orbs for the 3rd pull and see if it gives me anything else good.

Number 2 has 2x 5*'s. Just wish it had a good Red unit.

Oh the number 4 account has Minerva too.

None of them good?Is it S+ characters or bust then? Because all 4 of those have at least 2 S ranked characters.

No idea which account to use after all my rerolls. Only listed people who are A or above on tier list.

1 - 4* Eirika, 4* Catria, 4* Reinhardt, 4* Klein, 4* Saizo, 3* Nino
2 - 5* Ninian, 5* Jaffar, 4* Nowi, 4* Raven, 3* Odin
3 - 5* Eirika, 4* Jeorge, 4* Lonqu, 4* Merric, 3* Robin, 3* Adult Tiki
4 - 5* Ninian, 4* Marth (but 20 less orbs so I'm currently quickly farming for another pull)

I'm so glad it only takes 2-3 minutes to reroll when using a PC.

Also people like Hector, Takumi, Linde, Lucina and Lyn are a myth! Never seen them.

I've only seen Ninian (3 times), Lucuis (twice), Jaffar (once) and Rebecca (once) off current focus banner. too. None of the others. And that is in a lot of rerolls.

But yeah, there's the 2 3rd rounders too. So really you're more looking at like a 2nd-3rd round value on him. Probably more 3rd than 2nd.

In the context of Wiki's team yes. I'm pretty sure the Ravens FB scored obscene numbers of TD's the last 2 seasons.

Cesaro is probably bogged down by the fact that Vince knows he's European. I mean when was the last real ME level European? Andre the Giant? I wonder if Vince knows Balor is European too

Are me and KCF competing to see how many 1st rounders we can accumulate between us?

2/11 - OK SSB staff. Luneth burst.

I didn't even know that OK SSB existed.

And Jesus f***ing Christ they need to fix the advert that makes mobile posting virtually impossible

My Ninian's base stats were 16HP/17ATK/7SPD/7DEF/5RES if it helps.
Jaffars were 16HP/19ATK/9SPD/6DEF/5RES

Also are Ninian and Jaffar good? Just got both of them 5* on same pull. Ended up with

5* Ninian
5* Jaffar
4* Nowi
4* Palla
4* Bartre
3* Cherche
3* Fir
3* Clarine
3* Felicia
3* Niles

Strikes me as a pretty good start if Ninian and Jaffar are good?

Yeah, if you start a new account right now you have 43 orbs directly after tutorial. So good time to reroll

Got 5* Azura but nothing else in that summon. Guess I get up to 20 again and pray I get something else good to go with her!

Basically go through the tutorial thing. Immediately hit Home when it's an option and that gives you like 7 orbs from login. You should have 25 total orbs which is enough for a 5 summon (plus a single too if you wanted). If you get something you want, great. If not, go to app settings on your phone and delete the data, restart the app.

Takes about 6-8 minutes to reroll so I don't see the harm in doing until you get either a really good leader or one of your favorites given the amount of time you generally invest in mobile games long-term.

Ok saved the account with Eirika on. Back to rerolling to see if I can better it before this easy 15 orbs disappears! >_>

I got some special animation after summoning and it gave me Robin. Any significance to it or is it just a Robin only thing?

This current reroll doesn't seem terrible I don't think?

5* Eirika (S)
4* Lonqu (A)
4* Jeorge (A)

And jeeze I wish I could have Tharja and Azura!

Didn't get anything good off the second 20 so rerolling.

Already kinda regret it as Tharja was stupidly good compared to the rest of the units I had. But none of the other units I rolled were above B and most weren't even rated.

Just burning through these missions for orbs, Tharja seems ridiculous. She one shots absolutely everything by stupid amounts so far.

Oh man. Tharja. But rest of the summons were complete s***.

How quickly could I farm another 20 to do another summon or does it take a while?

I have to say that I do like the summon system in this game though. Getting the choice is super nice compared to most Gachas.

All the tier lists I've seen are so vastly different. There seems to be a few consensus top units and then everything after that seems a cluster >_>

Guess I'll do a few more rerolls and see how impatient I get. I'll probably settle if I get an S

So trying to make sense of a rerolling guide now. Is rerolling even worth it for particular heroes or should I just say f*** it and take whatever?

I've rerolled 4 times now but I'm not even sure what I'd stick with. I guess something that is unanimous on the S or SS tier list? Off the 4 rerolls so far I've had 5* Eldigan twice and 4* Catria once but didn't think they were good enough to stick with, now I'm not sure.

Any idea on what to shoot for?