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UltimaterializerX posted...

Ill play devils advocate just one time.

I am town and I have a guilty scan. These are red truths. Why did you scan guilty if youre town?

I didn't and I'll play devils advocate here too, if you're actually town and we're given a guilty scan on me that means Lea fucked up. Because I am fucking town. And no I am not a Miller there is nothing that I am hiding here.

Meow1000 posted...

Please stop wasting your brain cells on Kirby.

Yea you're probably right, wasted fucking time and energy.

Kirby321 posted...

But if Ulti is scum like you're claiming, it was objectively the correct play.

Why do I get the feeling me making such an irrational action fucked up some crazy tactic scum was cooking to frame Ulti lmao

Just because you do something stupid and it works out doesn't mean it wasn't still stupid to do it in the first place.

ctesjbuvf posted...

If 2 scum left this was never a day scum could hammer

With two scum left and one of them is on me it just takes two town for them to hammer.

And you're just eating up his bullshit. Like for fucks sake.

Kirby321 posted...

I know. But if Blade and IGCD's tactics are to fill the topic with rubbish to make it harder for FD and Chang to figure out what's going on, then I'm absolutely going to keep rubbing it in just to make sure that blatant contradiction never gets forgotten. Fighting fire with fire, you know?

It's not a fucking contradiction, you jailed the person claiming to be a cop. That is objectively a wrong fucking play, Ulti shit on you for it the following day. Just fucking stop this fucking bullshit.

Well good game Ulti, it's not that you deserve to win but town deserves to lose after shitting the bed so fucking hard with the start we had. From now on you don't get the benefit of the doubt any more. This is why I never trust you.

ctesjbuvf posted...

##vote: IGCD

You have to do this being scanned guilty, I don't blame you.

But Blade either throw his skills in the trash or is scum with you.

But a town IGCD 100% of the time votes the guy who claimed a scan on him here, this is surprisingly easy.

I fucking did vote him dipshit, I voted him as soon as he fucking revealed his fake fucking scan.

This is why Corrik says kill IGCD and town wins. I am quite often left alive for a final mislynch. I'm stepping away to go play Apex. If I come back I come back.

Kirby321 posted...

Let's pretend he's scum Cop. Emphasis on scum.

So me roleblocking the scum Cop was a "top notch" action, eh? I wholly agree!

If only you weren't quoting a post from Blade directly mocking me for my play this game. Otherwise, I might've considered giving you the benefit of the doubt :P

Blade is the only one trying to go after scum, you are blindly following the Cop claim that has given us nothing but an indy and now a fake guilty scan on the player that was literally saved from a kill. It is getting increasingly frustrating to even speak with you at the moment.

Kirby321 posted...

And yet, you eagerly agreed with Blade that me roleblocking the Cop was a "top notch" action, obviously in a sarcastic tone. But if Ulti isn't actually the town Cop and is instead scum, then my action wasn't so stupid now, was it?

So you acknowledge the sarcastic tone then continue to press that it was all a slip. Kirby come back to reality.

Just to add, I've already stated he could be scum cop, trying for a mislynch they desperately need.

Kirby321 posted...

You'll have to forgive me, but I don't believe you. That was a Freudian slip if I've ever seen one.

Ulti has a guilty scan on you. If you're town, Ulti obviously has to be lying because scum framer is dead and you didn't claim Miller. Therefore, Ulti isn't a Cop.

And yet, you eagerly agreed with Blade that me roleblocking the Cop was a "top notch" action, obviously in a sarcastic tone. But if Ulti isn't actually the town Cop and is instead scum, then my action wasn't so stupid now, was it?

Ergo, you just confessed that Ulti is truthfully the town Cop. Otherwise, you'd have no reason to agree with Blade and believe that was a moment of embarrassing play from me.

Sure seems like you've already made up your mind so what difference does it make?

Meow1000 posted...

Uh if he's scum cop wouldn't that mean you're actually Indy

It would mean he is lying to get a mislynch they need.

Meow1000 posted...

What? FD and Chang haven't decided anything yet. FD hasn't even posted.

I suppose they could go for an Ulti lynch but right now it's 2 on ctes and 2 on me.

Meow1000 posted...

Actually, Ulti already told us why he claimed it on IGCD. Ulti has been insisting on the existence of a 3P all day.

He's hoping for another Indy flip.

But he knows Kirby still won't block him even if it's a town flip.

This is why I can actually believe he is scum cop and claimed his real role. It isn't the first time he has done this as scum either.

##Vote: ctes

because everyone wants to follow scum ulti to lose the game I might as well make it competitive.

Kirby321 posted...

Oi. I don't have any ounce of respect for Blade, but I do have respect for you. I'd appreciate if you didn't pile on to his unnecessary insults, even if I did roleblock the Cop :P

... Hey, wait a goddamn minute, you just admitted Ulti was Cop!
YOU JUST ADMITTED THAT I MADE A MISTAKE ROLEBLOCKING THE COP

Brooooo there's no way you think Ulti is scum then lmfao

You're I am sorry. I'm just stressing out because Ulti is about to win this and Blade is the only one making sense.

And that wasn't me admitting he was cop that was me stating how the game has been going based on what's been said.

Meow1000 posted...

But really the only reason I'm on Ctes right now is I've been trying to lynch the guy for four days now and he's obviously not town.

Ulti is the one that's going to win this for scum though, ctes is not.

Meow1000 posted...

His insistence that I would have to be "perfect godfather" instead of just godfather should also be perplexing. "Perfect Godfather" is just some fearmonger he created days ago that's more meme than anything.

I mean I can only hope Chang and FD aren't as totally braindead as Kirby. Kirby's already embarrassed himself enough this game.

What do you mean. Roleblocking the cop was top notch

Meow1000 posted...

Oh and while we're at it we intentionally shot MZero (because he never would've targeted either of us night 4) before no killing for three consecutive nights.

It was all just to sit back and let you eventually catch IGCD. Yep. Was the best scum plan we possibly could've come to with.

Right? This is so fucking absurd. The best part is that you let me fucking kidnap lopen day 1 lol

Like if Ben was actually town siding in anyway why did he not neighbour the cop to share scans on any night that Ulti could have died. Blade made it very clear he had no intention of ever saving Ulti.

Like Ben was fucking scum and you guys are latching on to his read of me because reasons. He obviously didn't care about winning with either side or he would have denied being scum and gotten Ulti lynched because there were more than enough people willing to lynch Ulti yesterday. It's incredibly bizarre that you guys are going to let scum win like this.

Kirby321 posted...

That's correct. The night I jailed Death, IGCD was protected by Blade. Allegedly, at least.

And we know Death didn't send the kill, meaning I was shot at. So unless we were trying to kill our own team I cannot be scum.

UltimaterializerX posted...

.We?

Yeah Im manually ignoring both of you and going 3P hunting. Thanks.

And town, the impasse loop still exists. If I die tonight after we flip God, you murder Blade before he makes a single post tomorrow. I dont care how much nonsense they spew today. Guilty scan, the end.

If I stay alive, youll have your scan result on Chang. I promise.

All that said, Ben made a post somewhere that I cant find about God being scum not necessarily making Blade a teammate, and that the simple answer could just be scum lawyer. Or something. Can someone please find it? Chris is right that no iso on this site is so trash.

You're scan result on Ben was probably legit, because scum needed a way to find the third party(ies)

UltimaterializerX posted...

Blade, you dont think scum would no-kill and that only scum would come up with something that silly, huh?

So you assume we decided to no kill three days in a row? Or what? We decided to no kill once and hope that I was a protection target, no kill again for what ever reason and no kill a third time because I would have been roleblocked for a third time? Like this makes 0 fucking sense. This is such a desperation play from scum ulti to get to lylo..

UltimaterializerX posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80769024/980434704

This post is why I scanned him btw. Its a fantastic find by Ben.

And I responded by saying I meant to include him, you are blatantly ignoring the part where I mention being on the fucking highway. I've had to pull over and not get paid while at work for most of these EoD's. Sorry my posts in those situations are a little rushed.

Meow1000 posted...

But let that sink in.

Ulti is saying IGCD and I no killed on three consecutive nights and just sat there waiting for him to scan IGCD scum.

This so fucking much.

UltimaterializerX posted...

If Blade is your teammate, you probably shouldnt link to him this blatantly btw

Hey since youre caught, level with me. Is ctes third party?

I don't know. I am not fucking scum.

Meow1000 posted...

And again, it's impossible for me to be scum with IGCD unless we chose to kill no one, which was a game throwing action.

You also literally had a save on me. Hell either of us being scum means that we chose not to kill on multiple fucking days.

UltimaterializerX posted...

And I scanned God because of Bens case on him. Once Ben flipped and I saw he was being genuine, it was decided. Had Ben flipped mafia, I would have scanned Chang.

Yea and I not disputing that you are Mafia investigation to find other scum.

Meow1000 posted...

Town is too weak if Kirby is scum.

I have pondered the possibility that he could be scum, but here's the problem.

Scum can't no kill last night. Since Ulti is scum after claiming that scan, Kirby stopped the kill. I didn't.

Ulti is claiming the scan on you because he needs to get a "confirmed town" lynched by whatever means necessary.

That no kill prevented today from being Lylo. Scum Ulti tries to kill me and scum Chang tries to kill Ulti, which made Ulti the obvious save. This is a desperate Gambit to try to get Kirby to sheep him onto you when Kirby blocked Ctes sending the kill.

Ok that makes more sense than what I was thinking.

Meow1000 posted...

No. One of them has to be town for balance reasons.

Ulti just proposed an impossible team to start the day.

Kirby could be a back up for scum.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I have to know. Why didnt you shoot me?

Because I believed you were town and I was trying to keep our cop alive.

Kirby321 posted...

I shouldn't be entertaining this since it's obvious guilty-scanning flailing

But Wallz flipped scum roleblocker, and Ctes confirmed that I roleblocked him. Unless you seriously think scum has two roleblockers, there's no way I can be scum.

Dude we've seen insane roles on the scum side, obviously you guys have a back up. And a back up with 4 vs 19 isn't even that bad.

UltimaterializerX posted...

So who is the second scum?

I have a guilty scan. This is unarguable. Bens flip literally tells us there is a third party. Youve told Kirby that hes an idiot if he believes 3/19.

So theres two mafia and a third party left. This is inarguable. There are two scum to kill after we lynch God, so who are they?

Thos is exactly why I treat you like scum every game until I have conformation you're not.

Kirby321 posted...

That's my guess. Either Ctes or FD. I lean FD since Ctes at least scans innocent.

In any case, this will be another quick day. Good scan.

Scans innocent but admittedly scans guilty after having been scanned, right.

Kirby321 posted...

You'll have to forgive me for not believing in you when you've had, what, six nights to prove yourself lol

I figured that, if there was a death of any kind, clearing you from the murder would've been valuable. But with a NK here, looks like we're both losers now.

... Seriously, three NKs in a row is ridiculous. Ulti could singlehandedly win us the game now lol

Now that I know what you're plan is, Ctes, you better end up dead or have a vig shot locked and loaded tomorrow.

The funny option we could do today is just keep No Lynching until Ulti has scanned everybody in the game. It would be agonizing for our hosts and spectators alike, but it'd technically be optimal.

And there's no question today that Ulti is town, yes? Ben flipped guilty exactly as Ulti said, and without being affiliated with the Mafia, too. If Ulti is somehow scum, then this game state was never winnable to begin with.

So that leaves IGCD, Chang, and FD among the unscanned. One of them is bound to scan guilty.

Ulti/Kirby is your team they played their cards too early, should have waited a day. Ulti probably is cop to help mafia find third party and Kirby obviously is Lopen's role.

UltimaterializerX posted...

No, I scanned your teammate guilty. You would have pulled all it off had you just told him to shoot me when I was openly asking for it, but the impasse loop needs to stay closed by any means necessary for you to win I suppose. Zero chance I live through another night after this one, but hey.

##Vote: IfGodCouldDie

Ben, who wasnt even town, gets Town MVP honors if we win.

##Vote: Ulti

nope not having it.

RetuenOfDevsman posted...

The amount of effort and resources has yet to be imagined.

I'd be willing to bet someone has imagined the amount of resources and effort it would take.

RetuenOfDevsman posted...

That makes it significantly easier but still unimaginable.

It's not unimaginable if it's already been imagined lol

PunishedBen posted...

Guess you shoulda done it

No, lynching the person I believed to be most likely scum was the objectively right play

IfGodCouldDie posted...

You actually had some posts where that isn't true

And if I was scum I would have been able to lynch you without a second thought or real justification for it

PunishedBen posted...

I was calling you town confirmed though until last night when I engaged Benopen mode. You had no way of knowing

You actually had some posts where that isn't true

PunishedBen posted...

I dont know why you picked him over me. The thing I'm struggling with is why as TOWN you would pick him over me.

Its very possible you were protecting Ctes, as MI was trying to get me to vote Ctes, and it would have happened if you did not come in to vote. Me and MI would have voted together. The only way to protect Ctes was to vote MI there.

So Ctes and IGCD scum? That's the easy answer unless there's something even more nefarious I dont know

Ok so your argument boils down to scum me choosing the player that was one of the people unequivocally calling me town confirmed instead of someone that wasn't in a choice that ultimately wouldn't matter numbers wise

PunishedBen posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c60a2d69.png
Your writeup didnt even have MI in it

I thought I had included him. I meant to.

And if you're going to claim that me voting MI makes me scum, who was I protecting

IfGodCouldDie posted...

You're literally trying to twist a situation where everyone had town and scum equity, I even had a write up on it earlier. And EoD comes at a time when I am on the highway driving

Hell I almost didn't even vote him out of game reasons, I like MI. I even got myself kicked out of the funnest DND game I ever played because I wanted him to play with us

PunishedBen posted...

Your reasoning bothered me because there was no trepidation about being THE deciding vote for MI over me or Ctes. Why so sure it was him when your most recent comments that day about anyone being scum were towards Ctes?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/21e344bf.png

You're literally trying to twist a situation where everyone had town and scum equity, I even had a write up on it earlier. And EoD comes at a time when I am on the highway driving

PunishedBen posted...

Oh come on, you know the reasons. Main one is that it looked like Wallz was using Sbell as a shield against Blade, and like they were unpaired.

However, with Blade's "reactions" here to the no kill last night, I'm pretty on board with the idea Blade is IGCD's scum mate

Love the shade Ben, I see you haven't addressed the fact that I was literally saved one night, possibly two.

##Vote: Ben

continuing to have scum muddy the waters isn't productive