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Haruhi

Bump

LotGH

Away from home, so probably letting this run long.

Actually, Im gonna predict Videodrome, since its not on the odds board yet, and none of the stuff thats been obvious and hanging around on the cusp has gone out since Creep Show.

Bump.

Still going until I get home.

Haruhi

LotGH

Gonna guess Henry.

For free

Dangers in My Heart

Haruhi

Noon bump.

LotGH

Bump.

Haruhi

Also guessing Creepshow, just because it feels bizarre to still have in, when its tone and filmmaking is very similar to Killer Klowns.

LotGH

Thank God for that. Holy shit it is insane that a movie managed to almost be as bad as Basketcase, but Tetsuo defies logic.

Afternoon bump (round goes on until I get home.)

LightningStrikes posted...

I dont see whats so confusing about Prince of Darkness, its just bananas.

At the end of the day its all art. It doesnt really make sense to call art artsy as positively or negatively it implies that some films are not art or are more art than others. I mean when you look at The Fly its basically concerned with the same issues Videodrome is and making the same artistic statements. Without getting into spoilers my list has a very avant garde film near the top and another one near the bottom!

I strongly disagree with the latter assessment. In terms of theme and messaging, I can see a similarity between The Fly and Videodrome. Both share a theme of modern advancement being bad and leading to the loss of humanity. And in both cases, the main characters goal at the start of the film is to advance himself by finding the next big thing, but his life goes off the rails as a result, leading to his downfall.

In The Fly, however, the plot is far more well-executed. First off, Jeff Goldblum is presented as a scientist who is working on a major breakthrough. Its his desire for fame and glory that leads to his obsession and sloppiness, and ultimately his downfall. The arcs in the movie make sense.

In Videodrome, first off, James Woods being a network exec trying to find new, more explicit shows to draw in viewersalready youre starting with a less rational premise. But then his transformation is weirdly supernatural, and while I can accept the concept of Videodrome creating a brain tumor, the body feels completely forced and unnecessary. Even if its a hallucination due to the brain tumor, the movie treats James Woods weird chest wound as a real thing that he uses to hide a gun. And then the movie turns into a weird plot about a shadowy cabal facing off against a light cabal and its just utter nonsense. Its too focused on visuals and theming to create the films framework of a solid plot first.

Also, upon looking up their filmography, its interesting to see Carpenter and Cronenberg referred to as artsy directors, because in terms of the list itself, they have very similar records. Both have three films on the list: a Stephen King adaptation, a remake of a 50s B-movie, and an original idea inspired by their life experiences. And spoiler alert for my list, but I feel like they are best when applying their directorial intent and vision to a property that already exists. Yes, Cronenberg WROTE The Fly, but he was using the concept from the original film as a baseline. Meanwhile, their two original ideas are both confusing nonsense throughout the runtime.

To go back to earlier discussion, when I talk about Artsy movies with disdain, it has always been in terms of movies that feel like the director cared more about making something that showcases them as a filmmaker or an auteur, than creating something fun and entertaining for the audience to enjoy. This isnt to say that a movie cant be both entertaining AND artsy (Id argue that my top two from the 2010s horror list are both), and in fact that often elevates a film above something like a Childs Play or a Killer Klowns, but there are a lot of films on this list that feel like theyre just trying to smell their own farts in an extremely unenjoyable fashion.

Mentioning John Carpenter is actually perfect for this, because we have multiple Carpenter movies on this list, and one has already been eliminated, while others have not. And it stands out that Prince of Darkness, the Carpenter movie where hes trying to make some philosophical plot about science and religion and the devil while forgoing quality plot and character writing, is the one we collectively liked the least.

Gonna guess Creepshow again.

Bump.

Im on mobile right now. Did Dr. Stone get PJd?

Dr stone

Sticking with Tetsuo.

Haruhi

Jason X is my personal fave. Also, Ive heard 2 and 4-6 are the good ones.

Lotgh

Afternoon bump.

Morning bump.

Going Tetsuo.

Dennou

Trading for haruhi, auto.

Haruhi

dr stone

Morning bump.

Bump. (Round is gonna run long today)

Night bump.

Bump.

One last bump for now.

Kenri posted...

Did he get possessed or something?? In what context can that possibly be anything other than a dig at himself and his colleagues?

Because Ben has found himself under attack by antisemites that he had no problem platforming until they started showing their true colors and attacking people like HIM. Leopards eating faces and all that.

Bump afternoon.

Dr stone

Dennou Coil

unknown_duck posted...

Baccano!

Dennou Coil auto

for Dr stone please

Mushishi