Lurker > MZero

It's important to note though that not long ago (Console Mafia) I pushed Sultan hard and he ended up being town. When that happens I tend to think the player is town every game afterwards

I wouldn't call Sultan lock town by any means but nothing has stuck out to me as scummy yet

I pressed him on a couple reads in out chat and he was able to back them up in a way that felt genuine, although he seems more confident in his town reads

Here's Sultan's read list for anyone who's interested

Enchantress (Lea)- town
Mzero-town
Lopen-town
Chaeix (JC)- Scum lean
Isquen- poe if anything
FD- Towny at times
Ulti- Ulti is probably town?? but his eod was weird
Dumey- town
Peaf- FLIPPED SCUM
Corrik- ???
Red- very low content after getting a match could be scum but man idk if scum is that bold.
Sultan- hey that's me.
Kirby- could be strong scum power and they used peaf to save Kirby?
Sir Chris- scum lean
Death- towny

Kirby321 posted...

Gun to your head, MZero, who is scum?

I might still go Chris even if the NK kind of muddles things

Sulty mentioned that he's been playing similar to how he played as scum in recent games on another site too

Which if he is scum, Ulti probably isn't because that would mean the entire scum team tried to shade me D1

Tidus
Dante

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

It was more on my end like awe Mzero asked me to play I must play but sad to see it didn't mean as much to you as it did to me lol

You'll always be my Sultan even if the law doesn't allow our love

Also I don't like the taking the red mass invite and then pairing up with Isquen for non-game reasons. Feels a little too safe (although Isquen shot him down)

Don't think Kirby is scum

Kinda want to boot Ulti off the island because it's really unfun to play with him when he goes into "no one is allowed to suspect me ever" mode

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Isn't that also how MZero and Sultan got paired day 1? Because of the signup topic? Bad form all around.

Actually when I signed up I said "in to date Lea" and I only tagged Sultan and asked him to play in the signup topic

still catching up has Ulti changed his claim yet

Corrik7 posted...

It's like saying you are only going to join a game to vig a certain person.

wow I didn't deserve that stray

in the pan

Yuna
Raiden

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Just gonna break Isquens heart like that you Bastard. Lol also saying he is loyal while he already promised Isquen is Hella lol

Oh Sultan my Sultan

Lopen posted...

- Chris was likely scum

Sultan and I were both here

We had town reads on death and Dumey and were mostly confused about Ulti's EoD but ultimately leaned town

I'm mostly opposed to leaving a breakup request as I go to sleep so I can be ruthlessly murder while I'm not even here

EDumey posted...

All I'm saying is that if you end the day sheltering someone like Chris who has people suspecting him, over someone like Kirby or Lopen, who probably have zero to no chance of being lynched today unless there's damning evidence on them, then you're actively being anti-town. If you pair with someone that's in the PoE for most of our town players, that is a serious piece of evidence against you, unique simply because of the game format.

alright yeah that's fair, although Lopen is a little more volatile than I'd like lmao

Kirby I'd be 100% on board with

I mean if you guys want to pair me up with someone trustworthy who won't break my heart I can get behind it but yeah

EDumey posted...

MZero, I think if you're town, you shouldn't be willing to shelter someone to deadline, and I wonder if you would accept allowing us to assign your date by committee.

I disagree. I need to shelter myself to deadline because I might not be around to accept another date even if one is offered. In a normal game town could save me, but in this setup I have to be around or I just die by default. The only player I know 100% is town is myself, so I'd rather literally anyone else get the ax until someone claims power or something

Also Corrik not wanting there to be any claims is a wild take I'm just now noticing

Oh right, I sent this to Sultan last night but

What is weird to me about Corrik is i really thought part of his "I'm ok with not getting a match d1" was coming from a place of not wanting there to be any claims or end of day shenanigans for scum to take advantage of.
And then he pushed Kirby to claim.

I've gone from not really thinking Corrik is scum to having slight suspicion there.

Kirby... i can see that progression of events coming from a town pov more than i can see coming from a scum pov. Ulti, you had a really strong scum read tlof Kirby but also didn't seem to follow the order of events that led to him and fd being broken up. What are your thoughts now?

Lea, you've given off a strong confidence that everything is going to go your way, and other than that I don't really remember much of anything notable about your posts. You could say it's a me problem and not you, but that's largely where my "ok with Lea dying today" comes from.

Peaf Topic 3 Post 91

Rule of 3...? I like Kirby and Lea, personally

Leonhart4 posted...

No way. Remake is a way bigger deal than the Compilation material and is being treated by Square as mainline material.

Like if you want to argue it shouldn't count because it's a remake, that's one thing, but treating it like a spinoff? Nah, it ain't that.

Speaking of which, X-2 should be on here, too.

Admittedly I've never played CC or DoC but I put them in the same category as X-2

TomNook7 posted...

shadowbringers only took me like 80 hours not sure what youre talking about

how long to beat A Realm Reborn, Heavensward, and Stormblood tho

Lea is lock town in my book. The way she tried to gotcha Peaf with the rules when Peaf's role actually did interact with a room like he said (just a different effect) makes me think there's no way she's aligned with him

Lopen posted...

I had theorized Ulti to be town overnight but this utterly sycophantic attitude towards red based off of way less solving than Lea and I did, Death flipping Chris BG, and this senseless POE has me doubting

If Peaf had flipped town I thought Ulti was potentially TMI'ing by trying to save Peaf at the the end, but it seems like a weird thing to do if he's scum

UltimaterializerX posted...

You missed was in the first bit. I was reiterating my date.

I didn't miss it, I'm asking what changed. Especially because Sultan and I were both leaning scum on Chris yesterday but death's flip makes him seem more likely to be town if anything, and what did Corrik even do?

Changing reads is fine, of course. Just wondering why you did.

UltimaterializerX posted...

As for me, my PoE was Sultan, MZero, Lea, and Death. Death flipped town, obviously.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Lea, MZero, Corrik, Sultan, and Chris.

Why weren't Chris or Corrik in your PoE before and how did they get back in

In the end I think Peaf just broke up with Dumey cause he felt like it would look scummy not to and was worried about perception

TomNook7 posted...

imagine thinking xiv doesnt count as mainline, but 7 remake does

imagine reading

personally I wouldn't include VIIR though. I would group it with Crisis Core and Dirge or Cerberus and the like

First thought seeing the flip was Chris is scum and they killed death to make him look good, but they likely didn't know his role, unless death claimed or Chris is a scum role cop who automatically scans whoever he shares a room with or something

Occulam's razor says Chris is town though, although Sultan and I were both leaning scum on him

TomNook7 posted...

Lol how much did you spend on Suikoden V? Because it goes for at least $100 these days. I recommend emulation to people for that reason alone. Me personally ill always ride or die original hardware, but the price of retro gaming has just become too insane that i dont recommend this hobby to anyone lmao

also i would totally tag a suiko v playthrough

Retro game prices in the US always blow my mind. It's like 5 bucks out here lol

in the air

Persona 3 Reload and Infinite Wealth will take me through March I imagine, interested in Dragon's Dogma 2 though

Also I had this interaction happen earlier

Yukari: There's a shadow!
Koromaru: *barks*
Fuka: Koro-Chan found an enemy!

Zigzagoon posted...

Because the good boy must be talked about.

Koro-Chan spotted an enemy!

Koro-Chan found the stairs!

Koro-Chan found a treasure chest!

Koro-Chan found a door!

Good job Koro-Chan!

PeaceFrog posted...

Nah it was about his theoretical pinings about what benefits scum vs town in this setup, not any specific reasons to other players. The way you engaged with it rubbed me wrong.

You're not my #1 choice to go today. I just found it interesting that both you and your partner are in my top 5.

oh that

That was more of a case of thinking I had a gotcha and then realizing I didn't. Chris has been kind of contradictory in general this game though

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

So corrik just gonna reject everyone and die day 1 cuz he really doesn't want to play? Thats the whole vibe I'm getting from Corrik lol

I'll be kind of salty if this is the case because there were other people who did want to play!

PeaceFrog posted...

Mostly from the early day (mid topic 1) interactions with Chris. Feels like feigned ignorance and a way of posting but not really.
And sultan because i trust Ulti more than chris right now

What do you mean by this? I'm not supposed to ask for clarification when someone says "this post isn't great"? Am I supposed to just ignore it?

Enchantress posted...

I'm not a fan of waking up at effectively 4am but we shall see. I hope you avoid getting sent to the slammer, Sultan. That's why I assume you're at the courthouse today, being tried for being too charming in dating mafia

That slammer better have conjugal visits

PeaceFrog posted...

I wouldn't mind mzero or Sultan being unpaired and dying today.

a whole lot of people sussing me this game with no explanation and I don't care for it

at least I have my Sultan

Corrik7 posted...

Yes, I am willing to walk away from this experience without love before I settle for less than I want and deserve.

In this world one night without love will cost you your life. Are you willing to throw it all away for something as silly as "true love"? Don't be a fool! Consider your win condition!

Unless your scum in which case keep your head up champ, the one is out there

Corrik would you rather die than settle?

Also, you say you're "looking" for the real thing, but I haven't seen much effort from your end!

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Regardless of how long he's busy, I don't see how Chris being 'left out in the cold' means anything other than his death. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something.

Because death said

htaeD posted...

Chris said he was busy this night, which does sound like a reason to give him a chance.

So I said I'm not saying we should kill Chris right this very instant (while he's busy)

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Isn't that what this means?

at the end of day, not right now

unless death meant that Chris is busy for the rest of Day 1

Aecioo posted...

and thought Lucy Lui was gorgeous in Charlies Angels

i mean fair

I mean I'm not saying kill Chris right now lol

and I'm not just saying that we should kill Chris for that juicy info, he's been kind of bugging me all game. I'm not really sure how to scum hunt in this format yet but something about Chris has felt off

besides, killing red doesn't really tell us much about anyone because he's barely interacted with the game. If we're throwing a dart we might as well go for info since the chances of hitting scum aren't that high

tbh I kind of want to leave Chris out in the cold

I, for one, support the Ulti and red pairing

red has played with Ulti a lot and should have some thoughts tomorrow. No need to rush to kill him when he hasn't really done anything, which isn't exactly alignment indicative for him

Hender

death just waiting for me to be single

It's written all over your face

L-Block
Draven
Vincent Valentine
Gordon Freeman

Leaving L-Block off feels criminal to me. Unfortunately I feel like Draven also must be included as a champion, however tainted it may be

Vincent for breaking the N9 and Gordon Freeman just because GFNW is such a legendary meme