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TopicLeague of Legends Topic 25 - "I like my enemies two ways: dead, or about to be."
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10/21/11 1:28:00 PM
#28
Believe me, I'm not underestimating WC3's playership. I didn't mean to imply it was some cult game, just that it wasn't huge. There's a difference between a game that sold millions of copies and Pokemon or something. I played that game (and DotA) quite a bit back in the day. More than I've played LoL, probably.

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TopicLeague of Legends Topic 25 - "I like my enemies two ways: dead, or about to be."
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10/21/11 1:25:00 PM
#27

From: Aecioo | #023
There is literally a song about DotA that was in the Top 10 in a couple European countries.

a song about getting on ventrilo and playing dota

that was a top 10 song in the country


To be fair that song was pretty good and you don't have to "get" the reference to enjoy the song, even. Hell the song is probably better if you don't get the reference. That and a top 10 song is quite possibly less significant in the culture of those European countries as ours.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 1:22:00 PM
#333
I agree it'd work better, but I disagree that either one is inferior to the typical b8 contest. Because as I said, I think you heavily underestimate blind voters and overestimate how many games people have played here. It's pretty telling when Leonhart's NCAA contest has like 10 Mario games, 5 Zelda games, 5 FF games, a couple of MGS games, and RE4 in the top 25.

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TopicLeague of Legends Topic 25 - "I like my enemies two ways: dead, or about to be."
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10/21/11 1:19:00 PM
#24
Well keep in mind I'm speaking relatively. I know WC3 sold a lot of copies and was no pushover as far as popularity went but as far as Blizzard games go I think it's on the bottom half as far as playrate goes.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 1:17:00 PM
#331
Though amusingly Ever17 actually hit 50% playership in its match with MGS3.

I don't think it's quite as cult, around b8 at least, as you think.

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TopicLeague of Legends Topic 25 - "I like my enemies two ways: dead, or about to be."
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10/21/11 1:16:00 PM
#21
The original DotA was never really that huge. Warcraft 3 wasn't even that huge and DotA was basically a subset of that.

I'd say that LoL now is bigger now than WC3 ever was, personally.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 1:13:00 PM
#330
LS I think you strongly underestimate the amount of people that blindly vote for one game just because they've played it, and strongly overestimate the playership of even popular games around here.

That being said, I would be interested in seeing a contest like this where a game is auto-eliminated if its playership is less than say, 50%.

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TopicEzio in Soul Calibur 5(Rumor)
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10/21/11 1:10:00 PM
#56
Man Yoda and Vader were the pinnacle of hilariously out of place inclusions. How anyone can agree with what I said and not like them is beyond me.

Like Link was out of place, but not too bad-- at least he fights with a sword even though his other gadgets are like bombs are ridiculous in SC. The Spawn guys did Necrid and weird inhuman characters are kinda commonplace in SC so Spawn seemed sorta at home, and Heihachi had Yoshimitsu around at least, though him having no weapon in a game about weapons is kinda great.

But yeah when I think of "hilariously out of place" it's Yoda and Vader first, Link second, Heihachi a distant third, and Spawn doesn't even seem that weird.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 12:31:00 PM
#322
Wasn't EWR in the bracket? Or was it TEW?

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 12:26:00 PM
#320

From: Chrono1219 | #319
I somewhat agree with this. See, when dealing with a niche title it's often not about "which game do you like more" it's more about how many people who played the niche title liked it? Often times if that number is greater than the number who played both games, the niche title will win.


You do realize that's exactly what I said in the first line of the post he's quoting, right? <_<

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 12:24:00 PM
#318

From: Metal_DK | #316
for the most part, i disagree here. First off the people who go out of their way to play a niche game and it not be there thing are more likely to just not vote for the game, rather than anti-vote. And furthermore, the people who fall under that category is so much smaller than the ones who like or even force themselves to like a more niche game like phoenix wright, or umineko, or ever17.


Well they might not anti-vote (I would, but I anti-vote a lot!) but if they like the other game more because the game didn't meet the hype, why wouldn't they vote the other game? That doesn't make sense.

If you take issue with anything else, I don't think you correctly read what I said. Unless you're claiming that a game like Extreme Warfare Revenge or Painkiller or whatever gains less from the format than VNs despite being just as or more obscure here because "???"

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TopicSave My Favorite PS2 Game - Round 36
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10/21/11 12:18:00 PM
#31
DMC3

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 12:13:00 PM
#314
I definitely agree that the format favors niche titles a bit more, even beyond removing the people who blindly vote the game they like, just because the invested effort required to go out of your way and play a niche title means you were probably interested in the title in the first place which makes it more likely you'll enjoy it than say, Ocarina of Time, which everyone has played just because.

I disagree that it disproportionately favors VNs vs any other niche title, though. A niche shooter or a niche RPG is going to do just as well. And obscurity is by no means an auto-win-- sometimes you go out of your way to play a game and it's just not your game, or wasn't as good as it was hyped up to be!

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 12:06:00 PM
#310

From: XIII_rocks | #305
Honestly I expected something relatively cult, that I personally found uninteresting to win this thing. That's just the nature of board 8's tastes, always has been, and there's nothing wrong with that. Really we should be surprised MGS3 went as far as it did.


Really? I would've guessed the nature of B8's tastes was NINTENDO.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 11:55:00 AM
#299
I think I've been in b8anime like 20 minutes once.

I do post in the topic once in a great while though.

But yeah I'm b8anime fringe at best.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 11:28:00 AM
#282
Eh. I dunno about most people who have played VNs in here but I would've voted a good quarter of the field over Ever17. I don't think VNs are any more a beneficiary of the format than any other niche game.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 11:25:00 AM
#274
Actually I was just hoping I could get you to yell at me so your posts in here would be less painful to read.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 11:19:00 AM
#269

From: Biolizard28 | #263
I can love the s*** out of video games and have a wide range of likes and dislikes and still never heard of Ever17 or its ilk. That doesn't make my opinion worthless or worth less than that of people who have actually played it.


Of course not. Your opinion being worth less is completely independent of that fact.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 11:17:00 AM
#265
I think there are ~50 choices in each of the first four routes, and one of the good endings can actually be pretty difficult to get without a guide. Almost all of those choices matter for what ending you get too, though some matter a lot more than others.

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TopicLeague of Legends Topic 25 - "I like my enemies two ways: dead, or about to be."
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10/21/11 11:13:00 AM
#17
Hold alt then right click and you can control tibbers or any other singular summon (aka not heimer's turrets or that necromancer guy's undead units) you own. It's not exactly foolproof control mind you and kinda clunky but that's how you do it.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 10:58:00 AM
#253
So the "VNs aren't games" well ran dry so we're forced to come up with new things to whine about? It's a name, Biolizard. It just happens to be more catchy than the "only vote if you've played both games" contest.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 10:53:00 AM
#246

From: Metal_DK | #244
Also, im not sure how you can say "this isn't why most of the complainers seem to be complaining, despite what they're saying". I myself do not care that an obscure game won, hell id love it if a pc game like sacrifice, or an NES game like bucky o hare won this. So you legitimately think the people bashing the winner all just trying to find a "real excuse"? When they ultimately just hate VNs or something? You must not give your fellow b8ers much credit then.


Or he's seen enough contest aftermath to know well enough to not give "his fellow b8ers much credit."

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 10:51:00 AM
#245
Yeah I agree completely. People would be just as mad if Planescape or to a lesser extent MGS3 won, but they're just clinging to the "VNs aren't games" argument because they feel it's somehow more justified than garden variety results whining.

And the "it was obvious a VN would win" argument is possibly more dumb, because the results simply don't back that up.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 10:35:00 AM
#237
Well sometimes you make sense.

It's pretty rare for you to make the most sense as in most topics there's someone who understands Wangese and happens to agree with you that can express what you're saying in a way that the general public can read.

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TopicInverse Absolute Best Game Ever Contest: Metal Gear Solid 3 vs Ever17 + Noms
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10/21/11 10:12:00 AM
#18
Hahaha

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 10:09:00 AM
#225

From: AfroSquirrel | #219
wait what

Why did AT2 get disqualified? Was it considered a musical rather than a game or something?


Minimum playrate rule (if a game's playrate is under 15% it's eliminated) which is dumb in the first place.

Unfortunately the first draft of the rule was even more dumb, requiring minimum 8 voters that had played both, since that doesn't account for fluctuating vote totals making a game that wasn't eliminated round 1 due to the rule suddenly get eliminated round 2. Cause that makes sense!

I mean I guess KP did "the right thing" not modifying the rule mid match, but I personally disagree with the rule anyway! Even Fairy Tale 2 got knocked out the normal way anyway, so it was a wholly unnecessary rule.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 10:04:00 AM
#215

From: HeroicGammaRay | #212
if there's anything terrible about this contest it's at2 getting dqed

i mean seriously


VOUCH.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 10:03:00 AM
#214

From: The Utility Man | #206
Yes but can you say for 100% certainty that if P.T had gotten that one vote then Ever17 wouldn't have magically come up with another?


Uh, considering that none of the three E17 voters were rallied, weren't the type to rally, and all 3 have played both games, since I personally know all 3 of them, I'd say the odds are pretty strong it wouldn't have.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 10:00:00 AM
#208
It definitely wasn't obvious that a VN was going to win, because as KP said 7/8 of them were gone before round 3.

Ever17 wasn't even looking that strong. It was squeaking by most of its matches. Hell it won its semifinal by tiebreaker.

I bet a ton of people would be complaining if Planescape won, too. It's just easy to latch onto "it's not a game" and run with it like it's some sorta valid complaint over "bad result."

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/21/11 9:53:00 AM
#199
You know it's a bad topic when Wanglicious is the one that's making the most sense!

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TopicMost Powerful Fictional Character 2011: Richard Rahl vs.Ryu Hayabusa [MPFC]
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10/20/11 8:02:00 PM
#39
Ryu

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/20/11 7:43:00 PM
#94
I don't personally consider PW a visual novel but it has little enough gameplay that I see the argument.

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/20/11 7:16:00 PM
#86
Well to be fair the game that got the 3 votes that advanced wasn't the real vote drainer, since it got 15 against the more played MGS3

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TopicThe winner of the Absolute Best Game Ever contest is...Ever17!
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10/20/11 6:12:00 PM
#24
Not the best result, but decent. Better than MGS3 anyway.

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TopicLopen's kanji learning quest topic... FUNSHINE TURBO...?
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10/20/11 2:50:00 PM
#131
Oh yeah, forgot to update this last night

Card Maturity
Mature cards: 287 (8.5%)
Young cards: 420 (12.4%)
Unseen cards: 2680 (79.1%)

Correct Answers
Mature cards: 100.0% (35 of 35)
Young cards: 92.6% (2513 of 2715)
First-seen cards: 91.9% (650 of 707)

Again did the bare minimum on Tae Kim, but that's okay because this lesson was kind of a lot to digest anyway. I think it'll be very helpful though as recognizing the format of adjectives was kind of a significant stopping point for me as there's no obvious particle to break the sentence up with them. It's like, you know, a mishmosh of hiragana and they run straight into the word they're describing. Did the examples for this one too just to help me remember.

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TopicCan you guess wether these songs are from a Final Fantasy game or not? PART 2
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10/20/11 2:44:00 PM
#30
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Tougher than the first one. Unlike the last one most of the misses weren't from songs I'd heard in other games that I falsely attributed to FF, but rather half were FF songs just totally caught me off guard-- a couple from FFVIII, and one from FFXIII, and one from FFIX and FFVII.

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TopicMagic the Gathering SEALED DECK Tournament: Round 4 on
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10/20/11 1:36:00 PM
#76
So I'm probably good to play tonight if you are Megaman, just name a time. I'll open with 11:30pm EST.

Otherwise it won't be a sure thing till Sunday but if you set a time on any day I might be able to make it if given advance notice.

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TopicPhoenix Wright and Nova trailers [UMvC3] [No trolling]
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10/20/11 3:31:00 AM
#290
That would be the best. Damn, now I wish it existed.

Obviously they're gonna make Furio Tigre Phoenix + Viola Maya DLC so they can give them more than just a palette swap.

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TopicThis f***ing woman and her pumpkins
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10/19/11 10:31:00 PM
#27
Minesweeper, Oregon Trail, and all the ones that use lighting effects a lot are amazing.

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Topic~FIGHT!~ Bryan Fury vs. Lute
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10/19/11 9:27:00 PM
#73
Thinking about it, I personally think that Lute might be insulted by the challenge more than curious. Like who is this guy to claim that she, top prodigy and master spellcaster, can't take him down when he's not even defending himself? I'm not sure there are many situations where she is called out but I can't see her ego taking this challenge very well personally. She might get curious after he's dead but I don't think her inquisitive mind beats out her ego.

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Topic~FIGHT!~ Bryan Fury vs. Lute
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10/19/11 9:07:00 PM
#66
I mean, I'm still not sure I buy you believe it since your voting record is suspicious to say the least but it's worth something.

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Topic~FIGHT!~ Bryan Fury vs. Lute
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10/19/11 8:56:00 PM
#64
Although it's worth saying that your argument for Bryan is my favorite and the only one I really buy.

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Topic~FIGHT!~ Bryan Fury vs. Lute
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10/19/11 8:55:00 PM
#63
Shock and awe!

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Topic~FIGHT!~ Bryan Fury vs. Lute
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10/19/11 8:18:00 PM
#60
Hey I wonder if Twilight the Fox will be voting in this match

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