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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 3 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/13/12 10:28:00 AM #6 |
The lists up to this point:
Characters
27. Yuna (Final Fantasy X) 28. Chun-Li (Street Fighter) 29. Protoman (Mega Man) 30. Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury) 31. Frog (Chrono Trigger) 32. Locke Cole (Final Fantasy VI) 33. Bowser Koopa (Super Mario Bros.) 34. Tali'Zorah vas Normandy (Mass Effect) 35. Zack Fair (Final Fantasy VII) 36. Miles Edgeworth (Ace Attorney) 37. Zero (Mega Man X) 38. Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog) 39. Tifa Lockhart (Final Fantasy VII) 40. Thane Krios (Mass Effect) 41. Grimoire Weiss (Nier) 42. Zidane Tribal (Final Fantasy IX) 43. Godot (Ace Attorney) 44. Miranda Lawson (Mass Effect) 45. Victor Sullivan (Uncharted) 46. Doctor Nefarious (Ratchet & Clank) 47. The Sorrow (Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater) 48. Aya Brea (Parasite Eve) 49. Maya Fey (Ace Attorney) 50. Ken Masters (Street Fighter)
Games
28. Sonic Generations 29. Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception 30. Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story 31. Nier 32. Kingdom Hearts 33. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 34. Super Smash Bros. Brawl 35. Shadow Hearts 36. Assassin's Creed II 37. Bomberman 64 38. Brave Fencer Musashi 39. Super Smash Bros. Melee 40. NBA Jam: Tournament Edition 41. The World Ends With You 42. Street Fighter III: Third Strike 43. Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals 44. Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars 45. Spider-Man & Venom: Maximum Carnage 46. Parasite Eve 47. Final Fantasy XIII 48. NFL Blitz 49. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 50. Portal 2
Moments
28. Shadow Hearts: Covenant - Might vs. Right 29. Sonic 3 & Knuckles - Hidden Palace Zone 30. Super Mario Galaxy 2 - Grandmaster Galaxy 31. Skies of Arcadia - Rhaknam 32. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask - Kafei and Anju 33. Mega Man X - Zero and Vile 34. Nier - End of the First Half 35. Final Fantasy IX - Beginning of Disc 3 36. Final Fantasy XII - The Top of the Pharos Lighthouse 37. Shadow Hearts - End of Asia Arc 38. Super Mario 64 - The Final Level 39. Final Fantasy VIII - End of Disc 1 40. Tales of Symphonia - Zelos Wilder 41. The World Ends With You - The Last Day 42. Star Fox 64 - Area 6 43. Final Fantasy XIII - Snow in Chapter 7 44. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Turnabout Samurai 45. Kingdom Hearts - Hollow Bastion 46. Final Fantasy VI - Locke Cole 47. Mass Effect 2 - Tali's Loyalty Mission 48. Assassin's Creed II - "The Auditore are not dead!" 49. Portal 2 - End of the game 50. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door - The Glitz Pit
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 3 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/13/12 10:25:00 AM #4 |
...This topic doesn't want to let me post the lists.
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 3 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/13/12 10:14:00 AM #1 |
Whoo, second topic is at 500! If you'd like to catch up with the previous topics before it purges, you can go here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62633812http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62771258The first link is dead obviously, and once the second topic purges, simply replace the "game" in gamefaqs.com with a word that describes a person who simply reads topics without posting in them (like many of you reading this topic right now!), and you can find both of those topics that way. To reiterate from the first topic: The one basic ground rule you can expect for all writeups is EXPECT SPOILERS. All of the writeups will contain them. I will not mark for spoilers during character or game writeups, so this is your warning up front. I will mark spoilers for the moments list since even stating what the moment is could spoil people, so I will make sure to be careful in that regard. Also, I will make no attempt to pretend to be objective in any of these writeups (In fact, this is the only time I will use this word in this entire topic!). All of my writeups are shamelessly biased without apology. I will attempt to do at least one writeup per day, alternating between characters, games, and moments, but I can't make any promises. And, as always, debate, discussion, disagreement, deductions, and all those other D words are, of course, encouraged!
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Topic | What an interesting approach to guitar instruction. |
LeonhartFour 06/13/12 10:11:00 AM #9 |
From: Eeeevil Overlord | #008 Let's name all the things pjbasis is wrong about! We'll be starting with apples.
(sorry, that was really badly forced) Stop that now.
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Topic | Do you like this character? Day 532: Alucard (Hellsing) |
LeonhartFour 06/13/12 10:10:00 AM #18 | |
Topic | Save My Final Fantasy X Moment: Day 46 (18 remain) [ffx] [sad, isn't it?] |
LeonhartFour 06/13/12 9:51:00 AM #76 |
Braska's Final Aeon
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Topic | What an interesting approach to guitar instruction. |
LeonhartFour 06/13/12 3:13:00 AM #7 |
And as usual, you'd be wrong.
In fact, you could not be more wrong. You could try, but you would not be successful.
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 2 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/13/12 2:54:00 AM #500 |
Everyone thinks their favorite character/game/moment is the best, but I'm the only one who's right.
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 2 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/13/12 2:53:00 AM #499 |
I will put up a new topic later since I am posting from my phone right noww.
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 2 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/13/12 2:53:00 AM #498 |
So you might actually play video games now? That'd be nice.
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Topic | What an interesting approach to guitar instruction. |
LeonhartFour 06/13/12 2:51:00 AM #5 |
I was being Shelley Winters in "The Poseidon Adventure."
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Topic | Do you like this character? Day 532: Alucard (Hellsing) |
LeonhartFour 06/13/12 2:50:00 AM #15 |
Here we go.
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Topic | ertyu punches Mirror |
LeonhartFour 06/12/12 2:50:00 PM #15 |
I think we broke ertyu
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Topic | Save My Final Fantasy X Moment: Day 46 (18 remain) [ffx] [sad, isn't it?] |
LeonhartFour 06/12/12 2:49:00 PM #33 |
Tidus is a dream
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Topic | Do you like this character? Day 532: Alucard (Hellsing) |
LeonhartFour 06/12/12 2:46:00 PM #11 |
Keep it going.
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Topic | Do you like this character? Day 532: Alucard (Hellsing) |
LeonhartFour 06/12/12 1:06:00 PM #1 |
RulesJust post yes or no as to whether or not you like the character in question. It can be for any reason. You're welcome (and encouraged!) to give an explanation, but none is required. No alts, obviously. Topic generally lasts for 24 hours, but may go on longer if the new one is not up yet. The links to the character info may contain spoilers. If you don't know the character in any way, please don't vote.Nominations are welcome! Any help keeping this bumped is appreciated. All Previous Resultshttp://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Do_You_Like_This_CharacterResultsHubert J. Farnsworth (Futurama): 100.00% [82 votes] The Joker (DC Comics): 100.00% [52 votes] Ron Swanson (Parks and Recreation): 100.00% [45 votes] Hobbes (Calvin and Hobbes): 100.00% [44 votes] Yusuke Urameshi (YuYu Hakusho): 100.00% [41 votes] Alucard (Castlevania): 100.00% [40 votes] Marty McFly (Back to the Future): 100.00% [40 votes] John McClane (Die Hard): 100.00% [36 votes] Bilbo Baggins (The Hobbit): 100.00% [35 votes] Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury): 100.00% [34 votes] [...] Arthur The Fonz Fonzarelli (Happy Days): 94.74% [38 votes] Gandalf (The Lord of the Rings): 94.74% [38 votes] George Costanza (Seinfeld): 94.74% [38 votes] Amaterasu (Okami): 94.74% [19 votes] Bang Shishigami (BlazBlue): 94.74% [19 votes] Lloyd Christmas (Dumb & Dumber): 94.74% [19 votes]Optimus Prime (Transformers): 94.74% [19 votes] Private Leonard L. Church (Red vs. Blue): 94.74% [19 votes] Philip J. Fry (Futurama): 94.59% [74 votes] Dan Hibiki (Street Fighter): 94.44% [54 votes] Daniel Plainview (There Will Be Blood): 94.44% [18 votes] [...] Sasuke Uchiha (Naruto): 13.33% [45 votes] Shinji Matou (Fate/stay night): 7.69% [26 votes] Hannah Montana (Hannah Montana): 6.45% [31 votes] Nina Einstein (Code Geass): 6.06% [33 votes] Barbie (Barbie): 5.56% [18 votes] Chris Thorndyke (Sonic X): 5.00% [20 votes] Bella Swan (Twilight): 4.29% [70 votes] Canary Mary (Banjo-Tooie): 0.00% [19 votes] Ethan Ryan MacManus (Ctrl+Alt+Del): 0.00% [22 votes] The Kids (Trix): 0.00% [84 votes] Last Day's ResultsI thought Lloyd would bring in a few more votes than this, but he does pretty good overall. Today's CharacterWe've already got one Alucard in the top 10. Can we get another?
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Topic | Do you like this character? Day 531: Lloyd Christmas (Dumb & Dumber) |
LeonhartFour 06/12/12 12:48:00 PM #27 |
Last bump.
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 2 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/12/12 12:44:00 PM #496 |
From: Lopen | #494 But any time she's doing stuff that feels like it's driven by herself it's to resist change, not to initiate it. Which does matter. You claim that sticking to your beliefs in the face of adversity is a difficult thing... I actually think it's oftentimes the easier way out, personally. Making changes in yourself can be difficult, even if said changes are things that would make your life easier. That's why archaic worthless traditions like Yuna's pilgrimage are so enduring. The entire goal of the pilgrimage is to bring change, at least in the mind of the summoner (The actual truth of the pilgrimage is irrelevant in this regard). When she finds out the truth in Zanarkand, she certainly goes about trying to initiate change (and she IS the one who initiates it, though Tidus's influence shines through in that decision, because she could've just said 'eh forget it let's just keep the cycle going' which certainly would have been the easy thing to do in that case, and she didn't take the easy way out there). Yuna does make plenty of changes in herself because she's clearly a different person at the end of the game. Yeah, it took Tidus's "outsider" perspective to make her rethink things, but Yuna is a pensive person, and the conclusions she arrives at are her own after she's weighed out the facts (and that's not really different from anyone else. Virtually everyone's beliefs are shaped by the influences of others around them). And those changes weren't easy to make because she basically ends up the enemy of the state for it. She publicly resists the status quo of Yevon before the maesters when it's presented to her at the trial in Bevelle, when she could've easily said 'yeah that sounds about right to me' and gotten acquitted. So I'm definitely not seeing your point on this one.
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Topic | ertyu Igoners you people of board 8 |
LeonhartFour 06/12/12 12:29:00 PM #42 |
ya go my stanley cup kings
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Topic | Save My Final Fantasy X Moment: Discussion [ffx] [NulPurge] |
LeonhartFour 06/12/12 12:28:00 PM #7 |
Even more shameless that none of you actually showed up!
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Topic | Save My Final Fantasy X Moment: Day 46 (18 remain) [ffx] [sad, isn't it?] |
LeonhartFour 06/12/12 12:23:00 PM #29 |
Zanarkand Ruins
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 2 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/12/12 2:55:00 AM #493 |
I think this argument is fallacious because you're exaggerating how easily led Yuna is. If she had no strong convictions of her own, she would've just quit after Bevelle. Yet she didn't, despite the insistence of the two people you say she allows to influence and lead her along too easily. You can say Yuna's influence is more easily shown than other characters, although I would not be inclined to agree with that assessment nor would I say it somehow detracts from her character in any way even if it did.
You keep saying the evidence is "kinda there," but I've given counterexamples and you've been using mostly generalizations without any solid examples. Tidus obviously helped to change the way Yuna thinks, yes, but that doesn't mean she just lets him lead her along and she just thinks what she thinks he wants her to think. Yuna contradicts Tidus and Rikku often, and none of the other party members ever really try to tell her what to do.
Just pay attention to how the entire Zanarkand arc goes, and you can see that the decisions Yuna makes are her own. Yes, the influence of Tidus over the course of the game is clearly there (and it's not hard to see it in other party members like Lulu or Wakka either, actually), but that doesn't make her decisions less meaningful. That's the part of your argument I don't understand. So she wouldn't have been the same character had she never met Tidus and FFX probably plays out very differently for all involved if he is absent from the story, but so what?
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Topic | Do you like this character? Day 531: Lloyd Christmas (Dumb & Dumber) |
LeonhartFour 06/12/12 2:51:00 AM #26 |
blindhobo also desperately wants to hit school girls in the face with baseball bats.
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 2 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 8:24:00 PM #487 |
Also nothing wrong with liking Tifa the best! She's only second to Yuna!
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Topic | Do you like this character? Day 531: Lloyd Christmas (Dumb & Dumber) |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 8:22:00 PM #21 |
Go.
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 2 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 8:21:00 PM #486 |
I disagree that Tidus would have said something even remotely similar to that speech in that situation. That was Yuna making an informed decision possessing all the facts. I think it's pretty silly to say "well Tidus changed Yuna so she gets no credit for anything she says or does because of it." Every darn moment I gave you in that writeup was Yuna. If we want to detract from someone"s accomplishments because someone else influenced them, then nobody has ever truly accomplished anything.
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Topic | **Super Mega General** Save My Character (Day 35) |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 1:03:00 PM #11 |
Captain Jack Sparrow
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 2 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 12:59:00 PM #481 |
Well if you want to say "nah it doesn't count because of Tidus's influence" then virtually nobody anything else did in FFX counts for anything. You get that level of influence when you're the main character. Yes, Tidus's way of thinking changed her own, but that doesn't mean Yuna is no longer responsible for her own decisions. Influence is not the same as "Tidus told her what to do so she did it." Tidus wanted them just to jump ship and get out of there. Yuna was still wanting to go through with it if there was a way to assure things wouldn't repeat themselves, but when she was flatly told that nothing would change, then she made her own decision. She also made her own decision to continue the pilgrimage when virtually everyone else (especially Tidus and Rikku) was trying to convince her to quit after all the stuff that happened at Bevelle (or at the very least, they wouldn't have opposed her doing so), so again, her decision.
"Believe" is the wedding scene where she says "I can fly" and I'm pretty sure no one ever told her to do that. And again, the whole "I'm going to marry Seymour so I can give him what he deserves" was certainly not anyone else's idea. And I don't think anyone thought "Your heart was in the right place" when Yuna decided to go off on her own to talk to Seymour to try to persuade him to turn himself in. Everyone was thinking, "What is she crazy? That's never going to work."
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Topic | Do you like this character? Day 531: Lloyd Christmas (Dumb & Dumber) |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 12:57:00 PM #20 |
"I desperately wanna make love to a school boy!"
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 2 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 10:39:00 AM #478 |
From: Lopen | #470 Like yeah she's naive and shy/awkward at times but I don't seem to recall it ever being presented as a flaw or hurting her in the sense that "hey it was your fault for screwing that up." I also dislike that any sort of new or bold move she makes generally comes from inspiration from Tidus or Rikku or someone else. That's probably debatable to some since she's generally been getting praise in the write-up for how bold she is and stuff but that's how it always felt to me. Oh right, I overlooked this earlier. The naive thing comes into play where she decides she's going to agree to marry Seymour just so she can talk to him privately about Jyscal, thinking she can convince him to turn himself in to Yevon, and she thinks she can do it all by herself.
And the "Believe" thing definitely didn't come from Tidus or Rikku, nor did the big speech I posted that Ultima quoted. That was all Yuna.
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Topic | Puerto Rico is in America now! |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 10:38:00 AM #10 |
LOL linking to mobile GameFAQs
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Topic | Save My Final Fantasy X Moment: Day 45 (19 remain) [ffx] [memories are nice but |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 10:35:00 AM #47 |
Abes vs. Duggles
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Topic | What an interesting approach to guitar instruction. |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 10:30:00 AM #3 |
Oh no, no, no! Don't go! I've scared you! I've said too much! I'm hopeless and awkward and desperate for love!
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 2 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 10:25:00 AM #477 |
Haha, Sea Mama
That's one of those things where it's like, "In a game where only a select few things are voice acted, they chose this scene to be one of them," and it's hard to wrap your mind around. I mean, the scene would obviously be much less notable without it, but still.
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 2 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 10:19:00 AM #474 |
From: Lopen | #472 At least Yuffie is interesting and has character flaws !! I'll give you the second, but not the first.
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 2 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 10:02:00 AM #471 |
From: pjbasis | #467 Ah, well.
That's what you would expect me to say! Not really.
None of us thinks you're that clever.
From: Lopen | #470 Well I can break up the agreement parade by saying Yuffie is the best Final Fantasy Female LOL Yuffie
Only playable female characters in modern FF she's better than are Eiko and Penelo. Maybe Selphie.
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Topic | Do you like this character? Day 531: Lloyd Christmas (Dumb & Dumber) |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 9:58:00 AM #18 |
From: blindhobo13 | #012 no
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Topic | **Super Mega General** Save My Character (Day 34) |
LeonhartFour 06/11/12 9:55:00 AM #89 |
Sub-Zero
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Topic | When I was younger I cried even when I won my fights |
LeonhartFour 06/10/12 11:27:00 PM #15 |
It might have worked if he hadn't botched the grammar, too.
we are all brain hurts
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Topic | Do you like this character? Day 531: Lloyd Christmas (Dumb & Dumber) |
LeonhartFour 06/10/12 11:15:00 PM #10 |
Big Gulps, huh? All right!
Well, see ya!
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Topic | Save My Final Fantasy X Moment: Discussion [ffx] [NulPurge] |
LeonhartFour 06/10/12 11:11:00 PM #5 |
I covered a lot of FFX goodness in my latest writeup in my Characters/Games/Moments lists so you guys should totally check it out
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Topic | Leonhart Presents: 50 Characters, 50 Games, 50 Moments - Part 2 [lists] |
LeonhartFour 06/10/12 11:10:00 PM #464 |
I believe he is allergic to merriment.
He may be distantly related to the Grinch.
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Topic | Hey guys. |
LeonhartFour 06/10/12 11:09:00 PM #9 |
From: HeroicSomaCruz | #007 I asked a girl out to Applebees and she agreed. Instead, I find she brings two of her friends to make it a "double-date." Needless to say, I didn't pick up her tab.
And then she suddenly asks, "who's going to pay for me?" So...it didn't go well?
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Topic | Save My Final Fantasy X Moment: Day 45 (19 remain) [ffx] [memories are nice but |
LeonhartFour 06/10/12 11:02:00 PM #18 |
Truth about Auron
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