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ExThaNemesis posted...
From: Greyfeld | #118
Like I said earlier, this is called being a doormat. There is a happy medium between doormat and complete jackassery.
Not if you want to consistently be with the most attractive women.

I don't give a rat's ass about being with the most attractive women. That's my point.

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Metal_DK posted...
A personal example has to do with me that i remember very well was in my freshman year of college. My second semester i got 4 As and 1 B. I told my parents, and my dad just says "Whatd you get the B in?". I didnt yell and cry about his comments, but i was kinda saddened by the fact that it was the first thing he mentioned. Looking back on it, it was because im a generation Yer (born in 1987), and i grew up with that everyone wins mentality.

This has absolutely zilch to do with being coddled and the supposed "everybody wins mentality" (which I think is a load of garbage somebody on this board made up, but that's completely not the point I'm trying to make atm). It has to do with the fact that you came home with fantastic grades, and your father, instead of showing some sort of pride in his son's work, honed in on the one single, microscopic blip.

If you could have done better in that class, fine, whatever, do better. But having your achievements completely glossed over is ridiculous. It's the whole "honey and vinegar" story. It sends a message of "your best isn't good enough," which is a horrible message to send to your children.

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wg64Z posted...
Yeah Santa we REALLY need to know the backstory on these instances.

Also, after reading just the first post of this Chateau Heartiste or w/e, I already know this guy knows exactly what he's talking about. I've done the ignoring thing, and I've tried to convince my shyer friends to do it, but they all think it's dumb and start jumping through the hoops. Which eventually leads the girl to someone less desperate.

Like I said earlier, this is called being a doormat. There is a happy medium between doormat and complete jackassery.

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foolmor0n posted...
You know, I never realized how genius Roissy is, really.

His entire philosphy is based around relative value of men to women, so why is he putting out all his "secrets" and methods? Wouldn't that just empower other men and therefore devalue himself?

So what he does is wrap all his lessons in this radical rhetoric like that alpha quiz that santa mentioned, which, unless you are an intelligent and tolerant and open-minded person who knows how to extract the core idea from the superficial words, you will be offended and repelled. To be able to actively filter his audience this way, so that his methods aren't emulated and ruined by those who don't truly understand the philosophy is very impressive.

Or, possibly, he's just a jerkhole, and his approach appeals to other jerkholes.

I think you give him a little more credit than he deserves. I'm sure his methods "work," but you have to take into consideration that the type of person who would actually use these methods are the same type of people who have a stranglehold on their conscience.

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As fun as it is to theorize against game matches, I'm not sure it really holds much weight in this contest.

I seriously considered going with Samus, simply because she's a powerhouse in the CB contests. But I'm running with the theory that rivalries will make a huge difference in this contest, so I'm banking on the Boss Duo to get a major powerup, while Ridley holds Samus' head underwater and drowns her.

Of course, I also have Ryu/Ken to the semifinals, so feel free to take my opinion with a grain of salt.

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neonreaper posted...
Mr Lasastryke posted...
I don't deny that Roissy's tactics to get chicks work. Where I disagree with him is that all guys in the world should aspire to be like him and that beta males are pathetic and stupid.

Well, the type of guy who calls a girl a half-dozen times, or keeps sending her emotional emails after they broke up... that *is* pathetic. I don't think you *need* to aspire to dominating a relationship, but you should never accept less than equal footing (even if you are a happy little "beta", you want a healthy relationship).

That isn't being beta, that's being a doormat.

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CrimsonOcean posted...
Well when you put it that way I guess it makes more sense. It doesn't have to be an either/or thing. Given the option of two girls with equally compatible personalities to my own, but with say average looks or very above average looks, I'd definitely go with the above average looking girl.

In my experience though it's difficult to get both. Which I guess is kind of what I was trying to get at. Generally it's a trade off. Usually the hot girl isn't the girl with the really great personality and vice versa, so in that case I would go with the average looking girl with the personality. Like if I were only able to pick one thing or the other. Make sense?

For the record, I think Extha's question is way too loaded for a legitimate answer. The chances of finding two people who are exactly compatible with you in the exact same way, but are clearly two varying levels of attractiveness, are almost nonexistent.

And this doesn't even take into consideration the fact that most of us have different ideas of what is or isn't attractive.

Vague hypotheticals will only take the discussion so far.

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ExThaNemesis posted...
From: Greyfeld | #070
and I feel bad every time I try to emulate it.
Why?

Do you the girls who ignore you when you try to talk to them or buy them a beer or friendzone you are going to lose sleep about it?

Do you think girls lose sleep about wearing makeup or clothes that enhance their looks/figure?

No. This was a big step for me, too, getting over feeling bad.

I don't really care if they do or not. I, personally, am not that sort of person. And my personal morals will not allow me to pretend to be otherwise without it riding heavily on my conscience. Whether you feel that to be stupid or not is completely up to you, but it is not an invalid feeling, especially for those of us who have move beyond the desire to play games.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...
I don't deny that Roissy's tactics to get chicks work. Where I disagree with him is that all guys in the world should aspire to be like him and that beta males are pathetic and stupid.

I think most guys already know the "secret" about how being an alpha ******* gets women. But personally, that's not who i am as a person, and I feel bad every time I try to emulate it.

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So, NGamer, did you decide to change up to Samus/Ridley, or did you stick with your guns on the Bosses?

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CrimsonOcean posted...
And for the record I'm totally against the current coddling attitude people seem to have.

Same. I've just gone through enough crap in my life to know that being a jackass isn't necessarily the best way to help somebody and get them to listen to you.

I think a lot of these people that complain about "people don't accept criticism anymore!!" don't seem to understand that having emotions isn't the same thing as being coddled.

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lol sorry ulti, but that's not constructive, that's just criticism. Sorry to burst your bubble :P

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Liquid Wind posted...
you're part of this too you know, look at your post in ayuyu's topic. we've gotten to the point where we coddle people so much that it is socially unacceptable to criticize someone when they are blatantly wrong, you have to treat everyone with kid gloves in this age of political correctness.

I don't know about that. It kinda comes down to how a person presents their criticism. It's easy to criticize. It's not so easy to be sensitive about it. I would know, I've been working on doing it properly for years. Still doesn't come out right, half the time. I have a very low tolerance for people in general.

And Ulti, I've always gotten the impression that you're a good guy, but you really are a huge d*** the majority of the time :P

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MAX on Jim/Queen > 17.5%
250 on Ike (-14)

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Instead of "buying" photoshop, posters can download GIMP for free (and it's legal!!), which is basically the same thing.

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NGamer, stick with the Bosses over Samus!! You gotta go with Dat SmartVoterFAQs!!

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NGamer needs to think with his chest hair :P

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WilhuffTarkin posted...
Mario/Bowser vs. Link/Ganondorf

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Djungelurban posted...
5'10''
150 pounds

Your move...

Pics or it didn't happen?

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TheRock1525 posted...
Greyfeld posted...
MrSmartGuy posted...
I never once in my time playing Mass Effect expected Tali to be the favorite party member of the internet.

It's because us nerds all want a girlfriend just like her :P

So ugly she has to wear a mask?

Yes, that's exactly what I meant, thanks for not twisting my words in the slightest.

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MrSmartGuy posted...
I never once in my time playing Mass Effect expected Tali to be the favorite party member of the internet.

It's because us nerds all want a girlfriend just like her :P

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KimPilgrim posted...
Well,

technically,

Wii Sports.

He said franchise, not gimmick.

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CommodoreTN posted...
Yeah I heard the 4th one has a baby that eats the mom from the inside out and then a grown man wants to **** it.

I wish I was kidding.

You can always tell the people who haven't actually read the books. They prove pretty quickly they haven't a damned clue what they're talking about.

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yoblazer is a rhyming genius xD

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People aren't answering it, because it smells like a loaded question. And generally, people don't like answering loaded questions.

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metroid composite posted...
Rad Link 5 posted...
10/10 topic idea.

I don't know--I think it could have been more ridiculous in some ways by "what would this user do on a date with a boy".

Nah, that's too obvious. Making the topic name sound legitimate is a fantastically understated way of inviting ludicrous responses.

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Ayuyu posted...
Selena Gomez isn't hot.

Maybe in 10 years but atm she looks like a teenager.

19 year olds are hott, I don't know what you're talking about.

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SupremeZero posted...
... actually, yeah, they would. It would make people want to buy a 3DS. Shocking idea, I know.

lol no. They're not going to split a game installment of one of their best-selling franchise to rope in a few thousand more 3DS sales. They're going to make it a DS game, so that they can sell the maximum number by appealing to both DS gamers and 3DS gamers.

They'll rope people into buying a 3DS with remakes, sequels, and new IPs as the generation continues.

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Wanglicious posted...
size constraints? internet differences (3DS has far better options for encryption types)? extra features with the game itself/gameplay modes? just plain add in the 3D too, if need be from the 3DS Pokedex that's already there?

It was a rhetorical question.

The 3DS has sold abysmally, especially when compared to the total lifetime sales of the DS. There's no way in bloody hell that Nintendo is going to split the an installment of one of their biggest selling franchises between two systems.

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Considering the 3DS can play DS games, why would they make it a 3DS-only title, when they could just make it a regular DS title which could be played on either system?

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I don't even know what the hell you're saying anymore, so count me out.

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Crono801 posted...
redrocket posted...
The natural state of the world allows for parents to abandon or even outright kill their babies even after they are born. This is not uncommon among animals and was an accepted practice in many ancient societies.

The natural state of the world also allows for people to kill each other when they are angry at each other.

And look how divided the country gets every time there's a war.

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BoshStrikesBack posted...
Shoplifting hurts business, and subsequently everybody who works for that business. Abortion potentially hurts nobody, assuming you have the procedure done before the brain is fully formed (before that point in time, the fetus cannot feel anything or perceive its environment).

Again, it's a value judgment. You're trying to be a utilitarian while pretending that "maximizing pleasure" isn't a moral claim (and a specious one at that).

The fact that you can sit there and try to tell me that shoplifting and abortion are similarly "wrong" only proves my point. We both accept shoplifting as wrong, but we can't agree about the acceptability of abortion.

Even if you want to claim that stealing is only subjectively wrong (afterall, "wrong" is a subjective term), I can't think of a single society where theft is legal and acceptable. It's by far the more accepted "hurtful" crime, because the damage done is quantifiable by a standard measure, and abortion isn't.

And even if they were equal in some ridiculous way, it would still be a red herring argument.

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I think I'm about done with this thread. There's no use trying to have a logical argument with people who believe it's acceptable to stomp on a sex's rights to make them feel better about laws they don't agree with.

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BoshStrikesBack posted...
...And hurting businesses is only wrong depending on your moral code. Goes both ways.

Shoplifting hurts business, and subsequently everybody who works for that business. Abortion potentially hurts nobody, assuming you have the procedure done before the brain is fully formed (before that point in time, the fetus cannot feel anything or perceive its environment).

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JeffreyRaze posted...
Well, if you have to option to fight for legalizing male shoplifting, or making female shoplifting illegal, which do you fight for?

Complete red herring.

Shoplifting objectively hurts businesses by depriving them of sales. Abortion is only right or wrong depending on your moral code, and creating laws to hinder it infringes on the rights of women.

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metroid composite posted...
Forceful_Dragon posted...
What he is saying is that "as long as abortions are illegal, then it should work like this to limit the wrong".

It isn't "picking a group" it is simply choosing not to screw over a second group since one is already being screwed over.

The objection I can see is this: it screws over people who won't get an abortion for religious reasons.

Let's say you have two catholics. They are married try for a kid, and she gets pregnant...but then they start arguing and it becomes clear that a divorce is inevitable. The woman doesn't really have an "opt out" button because she is very religious. But now the man does and let's say he does choose to opt out. Now the woman is very screwed. She has to be a single mother and regardless of who has employment she won't get child support.

I mean, I get the concept behind giving the man an "opt out button." He can declare "I won't support it" and then she can just respond "okie dokie abortion time!" But the problem is that this assumes that every woman should be a-ok with having an abortion if the circumstances are wrong. We know that's not true.

The idea is to give women choice, not to force them into a decision because you've put extra legal pressures on them.

That's what adoption is for. For one of a million reasons, a parent may not be comfortable/able to raise that child, and that's why we have adoption agencies. Her life isn't magically screwed just because the dad doesn't want to fork over money.

In addition, we have government programs to help parents that want to keep their children but don't have the means to support them.

In the grand scheme of things, somebody's always going to find a loophole. But if the father legally ducks out and decides not to help the child, financially, that should be his decision. Just like the mother has the decision of not carrying the child to term if she doesn't want to.

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red sox 777 posted...
Let's make this argument a bit clearer. If women are allowed to shoplift from stores, should men be allowed to also? No, of course not.

Hell yes, they should. It's called equal treatment. Obviously, shoplifting is wrong and shouldn't be legalized to begin with, but you don't make something legal for one side, then say "screw you" to the other.

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JeffreyRaze posted...
From: Greyfeld | #192
First, please spell my name right.

Second, I'm trying to make a point about men's rights concerning pregnancy based on the current laws. Circumventing the argument by trying to change the entire framework of the argument isn't constructive or conducive to a civil argument.

If he wants to argue the right/wrong of abortion, that's fine. But that's not what I'm concerned with right now, and if he wants to refute my opinions, he should keep within the framework of the argument, not create his own new argument that has no basis in reality.
You're basically declaring the bounds to be what you say they are. He views a man disavowing responsibility of a child to be wrong. The fact that it currently is discriminatory is immaterial, as he isn't arguing for the current situation at all.

It's called planting a red herring. My stance on men's rights is based in current law. Saying, "But if the law was different, you would be wrong," is a huge freaking red herring, and has no business in the argument.

As far as believing that one sex should suffer to the exclusion of the other... that's a type of ****** up that we left behind in the 50's, and have been trying to completely abolish ever since.

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JeffreyRaze posted...
Greyfield, he's arguing that both of them should bear equal responsibility. He wants to change the laws, just like you do. Stop it.

Anyways, I don't hold that conception is a viable dividing line between human/non-human. I don't feel that potential humans have any intrinsic value, which is where the real difference in our views is I guess.

First, please spell my name right.

Second, I'm trying to make a point about men's rights concerning pregnancy based on the current laws. Circumventing the argument by trying to change the entire framework of the argument isn't constructive or conducive to a civil argument.

If he wants to argue the right/wrong of abortion, that's fine. But that's not what I'm concerned with right now, and if he wants to refute my opinions, he should keep within the framework of the argument, not create his own new argument that has no basis in reality.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...
From: Greyfeld | #179
"Two wrongs don't make a right, so let's pick one group to screw over, so we can feel better about ourselves."

Yeah, you're not worth responding to. Have fun with your fantasies.


What he is saying is that "as long as abortions are illegal, then it should work like this to limit the wrong".

It isn't "picking a group" it is simply choosing not to screw over a second group since one is already being screwed over.

No, you're trading a subjective wrong for an objective one. Abortion isn't "wrong" for everybody, and opinions are subjective. However, intentionally retardlng the rights of one sex for the sake of the other is objectively wrong, and should never be tolerated.

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red sox 777 posted...
I don't have discussions in fantasy scenarios. Women can get abortions. This is an unalterable fact. If you're going to continue making arguments based on fantasy, then I'm no longer responding to your posts.

This entire topic is about the legality of abortion. See the topic title. If you don't want to discuss it though, you don't have to, no one is forcing you to.

I believe my position is clear: even if abortion is allowed, men should still not be allowed to opt out of child support during pregnancy. It makes no difference that women unfairly can, because two wrongs don't make a right.

"Two wrongs don't make a right, so let's pick one group to screw over, so we can feel better about ourselves."

Yeah, you're not worth responding to. Have fun with your fantasies.

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