So I started Fate/Grand Order...

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...against the advice of everyone on the board, basically. But I have basically become Fate obsessed since watching Zero and Stay Night a few months ago. I watched a two hour video on Lostbelt 6 and the story was so good that I was like "no, I gotta play this. I'll do it as F2P as I possibly can"

but I am a degenerate gambler so I can already see that going poorly. I was going to ask questions on the reddit but I don't like the people there nearly as much as I like you guys and I know you'll be more patient w my dumb questions.

I'm sort of lost on how the combat works but my main questions are how to run my early account optimally.

I pulled Herc from my first roll and apparently he's awesome, even though I wanted EMIYA. I was gonna use my Special Ascension on him, but that seems bad according to other people because I'm gonna get a free SSR here at the end of Fuyuki. After light research on those units available, would it be good to get Waver and then use my special ascension on him?

Everyone says the mats for 5* units are harder to get so it seemed good, but like I said I'm brand new and have no idea wtf I'm doing really. Been reading this massive new player guide to try and acclimate as best I can.
"undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS
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Most people who play this on board 8 talk in the #mobile-games channel in Discord.

Herc and Waver would probably be enough to carry you through most of Part 1.
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I don't really like Discord much unfortunately.

Really wish I'd pulled Emiya. Emiya and Morgan are the main two I wanna get.
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Might wanna post yours so you can get some friend requests too. What's your name in game?
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Herc is definitely really good and probably the "best" Servant you can get through that tutorial/starter roll. Waver is probably the best Servant you can get with the Free SSR after Fuyuki, yeah. I would probably use the Special Ascension on Waver of the two.

It's not so much that mats for 5* Servants are harder to get, they just tend to use more of them than the lower rarities. However, there's a shop in the game where you can buy up to 100 of any material using a currency you gain for advancing the main story. You don't end up with much of that currency even once you're up to date on the story, but it's a decent "break glass if emergency" option.

As for getting through the story - you can probably power through most of Arc 1 by just grabbing OP Friend Supports and having them carry you. If you pick Waver as your Free SSR he can even help support them. Some of the better Servants for just speeding through the story would be strong Berserkers like Arjuna Alter, Morgan, or Summer Musashi. As well as just broken Servants like Melusine and Space Ishtar. Aside from sending Friend Requests as a new player you can also choose to follow a few (3? IDK by the time they added it I was too far to use it) players which allows you to use their Servants' Noble Phantasms without needing them to accept your friend request for Arc 1. So I'd look for people who have those Servants - ideally at a high NP level and maybe consider following them to use those Servants to just trivialize most battles.
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ExThaNemesis posted...
Really wish I'd pulled Emiya. Emiya and Morgan are the main two I wanna get.
There's a free 4* Servant ticket in May if you can wait until then. Morgan will have a banner in April.
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Welcome to the rabbit hole.

After playing a few gacha games, FGO can be considered a lesser evil IMHO.
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MacArrowny posted...
My user ID: 893,487,556

Might wanna post yours so you can get some friend requests too. What's your name in game?

I don't know where this is. I just named myself Ritsuka but I should probably change that lol
Thorn posted...
Herc is definitely really good and probably the "best" Servant you can get through that tutorial/starter roll. Waver is probably the best Servant you can get with the Free SSR after Fuyuki, yeah. I would probably use the Special Ascension on Waver of the two.

Sweet. Not only did I pull him but I got a duplicate of him so I can upgrade his Noble Phantasm, I think.

I knew you guys would be super helpful. Thx for the info. I did get Medusa as well from my first roll, and she's one of my favorites from the show for obvious reasons (tall purple hair waifu), but idk if leveling her up is a waste of resources this early or not.

For the battle system, I just figured out how to use Skills. Can I use those every turn on top of the attacks? Or do they replace attacks?

Also a lot of early beginner advice says to level up Mash, which I have no problem doing coz I like her a lot so far. How much should I level her is the question. And using OP support servants seems cool, but I'd almost rather just use three of my own servants and level them up/learn how to use their skills early on.
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ExThaNemesis posted...


I don't know where this is. I just named myself Ritsuka but I should probably change that lol
Go to Friends & Following in the main menu at the bottom right, click user search. It'll show you your code.
All the stars in the sky are waiting for you.
My two hardcore FGO friends talk to me about it a lot, and they hate and love Lostbelt 6 because this exact thing keeps happening: it's so good that people jump into the game to get to it, and they are unable to escape.

When I was told that Lostbelt 6 by itself had 4 times the wordcount of Umineko in it's entirety, I ran for the fucking hills. Seems like FFXIV would potentially take less time to catch up on from the start than FGO.

But hey, that's appealing to a lot of people. Hell. It's supper appealing to me! I just can't afford the risk of playing another gacha.
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And from what I've heard, some of the other stories are almost as good as LB6, depending on your tastes.

I just love the entire setup with summoning servants and traveling through history to correct singularities to save humanity. It's such a fantastic concept on top of what was already built with Stay Night.

Mac I put your ID and found your Merlin, but I'm not seeing an option to friend request you or anything like that. Scratch that I found it, FR sent.
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
Lostbelt 6 by itself had 4 times the wordcount of Umineko in it's entirety

I'm sorry what

ExThaNemesis posted...
but I am a degenerate gambler so I can already see that going poorly

uhoh

ExThaNemesis posted...
Can I use those every turn on top of the attacks? Or do they replace attacks?

They all have individual cooldowns, but can be used on top of regular attacks yes.

I wouldn't, like, EXCLUSIVELY level up Mash, but she'll always be a pretty solid option in any situation, especially at points where Cost is an issue. What I usually do is give her (or whatever other special class servant I'm leveling) all the generic EXP and let the specific class EXP go to the specific classes
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ExThaNemesis posted...
For the battle system, I just figured out how to use Skills. Can I use those every turn on top of the attacks? Or do they replace attacks?

Also a lot of early beginner advice says to level up Mash, which I have no problem doing coz I like her a lot so far. How much should I level her is the question. And using OP support servants seems cool, but I'd almost rather just use three of my own servants and level them up/learn how to use their skills early on.
Skills can be used freely, they don't cost you an attack or anything. Every skill has a cooldown however - so you have to wait a certain number of turns before that skill can be used again. Leveling up the skill reduces that cooldown (by up to 2 turns at max) along with making the skill better at what it does (so a defense buff gives more defense, attack buff more attack, etc.)

The battle system is done entirely through cards. Each Servant has a "deck" of 5 cards, which you can see on the battle prep screen (I think.) There are 3 card types:

Buster (Red) - Do more damage than the other card types, but does not generate NP Gauge, generates some Crit Stars.
Arts (Blue) - Does okay damage, generates the most NP Gauge. Does not generate Crit Stars.
Quick (Green) - Does weakest damage, generates the most crit stars, generates some NP Gauge.

Since you have 3 Servants on the field usually you have 15 cards (5 per Servant) in the deck. You randomly draw 5 cards on Turn 1 and then the next turn you'll draw 5 from the remaining 10, and on Turn 3 you get the last 5. There are some things that "reset" this like a Servant dying but generally this is how it works so you can have a decent guess at what cards you might get on the following turns based on what's "left." (i.e. Say you draw 4 Mash cards and 1 Herc card on Turn 1. Since that's 4/5 of Mash's cards, you "know" that over the next two turns she can only get that last card so one turn will have 0 Mash cards and the other will have the 1.)

You attack by picking 3 of the cards in your hand (the other 2 go unused.) If all 3 cards belong to the same Servant they get a bonus 4th attack that is usually stronger than their regular cards. If all 3 cards are the same color (even if different Servants) then you get a bonus related to that card type (Buster cards do even more damage, for arts everyone involved in the chain gets 20% NP Gauge, for quick you get 10 crit stars for the next turn.) It's also possible for some Servants to do both of those at the same time (like if you get a hand that has 3 Buster Herc cards) where you will get both perks at the same time.

Crit Stars generate from attacks go into a big pile and are distributed at the start of a turn to random cards (there's some more mechanics behind this but don't worry - basically you'll see some class types tend to get the stars more often than others) and each star represents a 10% chance for that card to be a critical hit. But you'll most often see this as a % chance on each card when you're selecting them - that represents the critical chance.

Finally there are Noble Phantasms. You can only use them when the NP Gauge is at 100% or higher. They are special cards that you get in addition to the regular 5 you draw a turn. You still have to select it as one of your 3 cards if you want to use it however. Once used the NP Gauge resets to 0 (but the NP itself might generate, or "refund" some of the NP Gauge based on the card type. Remember how Arts cards generate NP Gauge? Well if an NP Card is Arts/Blue, then any damage it deals will also generate NP Gauge itself so instead of being at 0 gauge again after the NP you might be at like... 20, for example.)

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Mash is a good unit, yeah. She has a bunch of solid defense skills to help keep your party alive. But for her, a lot of her progression is locked behind advancing the story to unlock her later skills and level cap to be used to her full potential - but she's definitely worth leveling if you have the chance.
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Excellent info, Thorn. I don't know why the guide I'm reading didn't explain it exactly like that. Thank you.
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Also from the stuff I've watched/read, I feel really bad for this Olga Marie lady. She did not deserve AT ALL what's about to happen to her. :(
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OK apparently that source I saw mixed up Lostbelt 6 with all of FGO lol.

Lostbelt 6 is a bit over half as long as Umineko in it's entirety, so I guess technically it's a bit longer than eithernthe Question or Answer arcs.

That's still pretty fuckin' nuts. And FGKnin general still being 4.5 times longer than Umineko is ALSO still pretty fuckin' nuts.
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You don't have to change your name if you don't want, I am also "A Ritsuka" as it were.
I don't like being called weird names in-story because it takes me out of it.

I'll send you a friend request in a bit, too.

And yeah the general newbie advice is that you shouldn't ignore your low star Servants. Unlike a lot of gacha games, low stars and free units have a lot of use and some can be just as good or even better than their higher rarities. While you will MOSTLY be using the higher rarity Servants, you'll want low cost units to round out your teams.

That doesn't mean every Servant is good, mind, there are some meme tier Servants like Jekyl and Geronimo, but still.
I basically am playing this game because I want to experience the story and be best bros with Emiya and married to Morgan. Everything else is kind of like "well that's cool too."

maybe Kiara can take my soul too I guess. Ereshkigal also acceptable.
"undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS
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Early on your team Cost is very low, which is why Mash is very useful. Having a 0 cost character is great.

ExThaNemesis posted...
And using OP support servants seems cool, but I'd almost rather just use three of my own servants and level them up/learn how to use their skills early on.
Feel free to also take a support Servant from your friend, like their Merlin/Caster Artoria/Waver/Koyanskaya/Oberon/Skadi/etc. Using them to power up your Servants is fun too.
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That's how everyone STARTS.

Then you're thousands of dollars in the gacha hellhole with a nearly complete Servant collection rambling about how you need just a few more copies to 120 with max append your waifu/husbando.
also I don't know what it is but I absolutely LOVE the "incantations" servants use for the noble phantasms. Obviously Unlimited Bladworks is the GOAT, but Morgan and Oberon have great ones too.
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Sent a Friend Request.

Also if you're a visual learner I do recommend the Learning with Manga series, which is full of useful tips for newer players! Sometimes!
https://fate-go.us/manga_fgo/

Though it was initially made not long in the early days of the JP version, so some things might be outdated, but it still has new chapters coming out even nowadays.
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- RIP Stephen Sondheim, 1930-2021
I beat the first singularity last night. Just been kind of taking my time. It's cool that I can play this on my break at work. Also cool how smoothly it runs on my phone, and like if I put my phone on silent and throw it in my pocket I can just open it back up to where it left off. I was worried it was gonna be more like Pokemon Go where it crashed every time I did that.

I go Waver with my free SSR 5 star summon and I maxed him out with my special ascension. Right now though my party is just Mash, Herc, and whatever support I bring with me. I want to level Medusa up and use her for a bit because she's one of my favorite servants but I think the drop off from Herc to her is probably pretty steep. I also wanna keep using Mash because it's part of the story and she's adorable.

Orleans looks like a pretty dope story so am excited to get through that.
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I will warn you that the writing quality kinda increases over time. As I understand it, they weren't taking it super seriously until the game blew up.
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Yeah that's what everyone said. I would have been absolutely LOST if I hadn't watched a few lore videos as a primer. The pre-knowledge about Solomon/Goetia and the 72 demons really helped.
"undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
Lostbelt 6 is a bit over half as long as Umineko in it's entirety, so I guess technically it's a bit longer than eithernthe Question or Answer arcs.

I ended up needing to skip a lot of story to access an event, and have slowly been going back to catch up. Good to know I can look forward to being fully caught up some time in 2027!

Also, I'm realizing I never posted my friend code here, so: 396,701,985 (already sent a friend request to Mac and ExTha)
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if you want a nice Morgan to use ;)
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Is the music through the rest of the game as good as it is in LB6. Morgan and Oberon's battle themes are so mf lit
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TheArkOfTurus posted...
I ended up needing to skip a lot of story to access an event, and have slowly been going back to catch up. Good to know I can look forward to being fully caught up some time in 2027!

Also, I'm realizing I never posted my friend code here, so: 396,701,985 (already sent a friend request to Mac and ExTha)
What's your name in-game so I can accept?
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MacArrowny posted...
What's your name in-game so I can accept?

I changed it to ArkOfTurus just before sending it, but it was just Turus before if that isn't showing up.
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yo I'm reading the wiki page for Saber Alter and is this all legit?

Her and Jalter fighting each other like emo sisters sounds so campy and hilarious
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ExThaNemesis posted...
Is the music through the rest of the game as good as it is in LB6. Morgan and Oberon's battle themes are so mf lit
IMO LB6 as a whole has the highest concentration of awesome music - basically all of it is amazing, but other parts of the game do have music that's great.

Though, Morgan's battle theme may be my single favorite song in the game and Oberon's isn't that far behind.
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ExThaNemesis posted...
Her and Jalter fighting each other like emo sisters sounds so campy and hilarious

it is
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ExThaNemesis posted...
I am

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TheArkOfTurus posted...
Also, I'm realizing I never posted my friend code here, so: 396,701,985

Sent a request to both of you. I go by Cartyx in-game.

My own User ID is conveniently in my sig for anyone else wanting to send a request that I don't have already.
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Also sent friend requests to Ark and ExTha. In game name is Zero. Think I have everyone else here who posted their code but if I'm wrong let me know (friend list is full but I should be able to make more room by clearing inactives if there's anyone from Board 8.)
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After losing my original FGO account, I can't bring myself to start again.
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Welcome aboard!

As a GSSR2P (I give them $15, twice a year), the game is still very approachable. My account is in fantastic shape. However, you definitely need to have a lot of discipline on your rolls.

From a pure gameplay standpoint, the most important units to have are Support units. The big ones being:
  • Waver -- who you already have, excellent generic support, also he's Waver and we love him. Notably doesn't need skill levels early on since his NP charges don't scale with them.
  • Artoria Caster aka Castoria -- The best unit in the game by a mile, works best with Arts units but is just broken in general
  • Koyanskaya of Light -- the dedicated Buster support, she's all-in but makes farming or nuking things down easy
  • Scathach-Skadi -- the dedicated Quick support. Overshadowed by the other supports, but she gets a Summer version this year that is largely an improvement over her base form.
With good supports, you can make almost anyone work.

Of course, feel free to roll for love, but know that a ton of the silver and bronze units in this game are fantastic in their own rights. For example:
  • Shakespeare -- targeted 20% battery and decent party-wide buster up for a turn. Pretty great for such a low cost, I'm using him in the current event's raid right now.
  • Arash -- the king of clearing one (1) wave. He won't be fantastic until you complete jerusalem and get his NP upgrade, but his cost is super low and he offs himself on NP, letting you rotate in a backrow party member for free
  • Spartacus -- Don't let his stats fool you, this guy is your de facto early-game omni-farmer. Farming is like 90% of the game by volume, so knowing who's good at farming is important. Just make sure to end fights kinda quickly since he's made of glass.
  • Georgios -- STILL the best tank in the game. Even better than Mash when it comes to pure tanking. It's not close. Has a coveted 3-turn taunt (one of only 2 Servants iirc, the other being Percival, a 4-star), big DEF up, a guts, the works. You can even do Dragon memes with his NP if you have an anti-Dragon unit like Siegfried.
  • Lu Bu -- He bonks things really hard. The stat stick by which all other stat sticks are measured. (I guess you have Herc already)
  • Hans -- I'm not as high on him as most people, but he provides a wide array of buffs and utilty as well as healing. It's a shame 2/3 of his NP buffs are RNG.
  • Robin Hood -- Robin is still my unit of choice to kill Saber bosses. Just make sure the poison lands.
  • Euryale -- My unit of choice to kill Saber or Zerk bosses who made the grave mistake of being Male.
All of these are guaranteed to get NP5 eventually as you roll out your friend points. Most other units are workable as well. Just don't invest anything into Jekyl. He's awful and not even in a way that's fun for contrarians.

Herc definitely is not your best roll in the tutorial summon; Helena is since she's a dedicated support unit. Herc doesn't get great until you get his bond 10 Craft Essence, which will take months. He's still fine for now, and tutorial rerolling is not at all necessary in FGO. Plus you like FSN, so that helps.

As someone else said, Fuyuki is pretty good, and Orleans has cool ideas even if the actual prose is wack. Jalter is a fantastic character concept that keeps getting better once she's on our side. After that - I'll put this in spoilers in order not to skew your expectations, but if you want to know my thoughts, feel free to click: The quality takes a turn for a while afterward. Rome is pretty bad, Okeanos is a mixed bag with a plot that could've been better, London is terrible plotting but crucial for worldbuilding and carried by a couple of characters, and America is a fun, if strangely executed, romp. Then it hits Jerusalem and decides to get incredible.

Save your apples and/or spare AP for "lotto events." These are unlimited farming events that give you almost everything you could want: FP, QP, class gems, and a truckload of 5-6 specific materials. Unfortunately, the coming lotto is story-gated kinda late in the story from where you are, but don't try to rush to get to it and ignore the reason you're here: the story. There's no PvP elements at all, so don't feel pressure.

Finally, the game won't tell you specific numbers on the effects of skills or NPs, so get used to using the wiki a lot. Don't look at Gamepress's tier list though. It's memetically terrible.

If you want to add me, my code is 545,046,833. In-game name is Lance.

Enjoy!
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look i may have forgot helena got added to the tutorial pull

Still, I don't know if I'd say she's a clean win over Herc - particularly for a player who grabs Waver with the SSR Ticket. You're right that Herc only really gets to meme once you get the Bond CE and that's a longer term project but I feel like you can far more easily replace Helena's support functions as you build a roster than you can Herc's gimmick because no one else really has that. Helena is already basically Diet Waver. Will there be times where you might find yourself wishing you had that 20% party charge? Sure, but I don't think it'd be that often.

They're both probably Top 2 possible tutorial pulls is the point - ExTha wasn't like me and got Stheno instead - the clear loser of the pool. >_>
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I still don't have Herc. -_-

Sent you a friend invite.
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I'd say yes, please give me two supports, one of which has a rainbow buff and her own damaging NP (even if its damage is mid).

I do agree she and Herc are the top two
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Okay so you guys keep saying Supports. Basically in every mission so far I've used SOMEONE ELSE's support. Like some random person's, or Cu Caster. Is there gonna be a point where I use one of my own characters for that or???

Also I need to set up a support roster for other people to use. That seems vital. Do you get a lot of bonuses for other people using your char?
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Sorry. "Friend / Story Supports" are distinct from "Support Servants." It's a little confusing.

In general, I suggest defaulting "Support" to talking about a unit's role and just thinking of a Friend or Story unit as a "borrowed" unit.

Don't worry about setting up your own "borrow" list for now -- you only get a tiny amount of FP for people using your units. At high levels, it's mostly done just as a mutually beneficial arrangement; the FP don't matter, but enticing people with strong Servants to borrow their own strong Servants is a boon. For now, you have us, and we should have you covered.
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Oh word thank you. I'm glad I don't gotta stress about that because my only "good" units rn are Herc and Waver.
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did the New player Dash pull and got Gilgamesh. Can't wait to be called a mongrel.
"undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS
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Almost a full page and nobody's said it, so:

That's hell you're walking into
Let the voice of love take you higher,
With this gathering power, go beyond even time!
Xiahou_Shake posted...
Almost a full page and nobody's said it, so:

That's hell you're walking into

yessssss
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The guide is mentioning Single Target and AOE units... does this just refer to their NP or does it mean their skills? Coz basic attacks are all single target
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ExThaNemesis posted...
The guide is mentioning Single Target and AOE units... does this just refer to their NP or does it mean their skills? Coz basic attacks are all single target

Yes, it means Noble Phantasm. There are no AOE basic attacks in the game.
FGO is a very NP focused game so a *lot* of a Servants usefulness is determined by either their own NP or their ability to get other people to an NP.

That's not the only factor of course, but in a very boiled-down, broad strokes view, that is.
ExThaNemesis posted...
did the New player Dash pull and got Gilgamesh. Can't wait to be called a mongrel.
LOL, I was wondering if I should mention that given the actual money bit when you just started. Congrats on Gil though! He's also solid once fully upgraded.
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