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colliding
03/09/2023
10:04 PM
#1
So the GAA topic doesn't devolve into a series ranking

AAI2 is extremely overrated and only slightly better than the first AAI
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SHINE_GET_64
03/09/2023
10:09 PM
#2
I like Layton more
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Bitto
03/09/2023
10:13 PM
#3
Ace Attorney 1 has aged really well
SSBM_Guy
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hombad46
03/09/2023
10:15 PM
#4
colliding posted...
AAI2 is extremely overrated and only slightly better than the first AAI

Agreed. The Grand Turnabout goes on for like 3 hours too long.
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BetrayedTangy
03/09/2023
10:16 PM
#5
PW1 is the worst game in the original trilogy
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KamikazePotato
03/09/2023
10:26 PM
#6
Most of the worst cases are the ones that heavily involve spirit channeling

This includes 3-5
It's Reyn Time.
masterplum
03/09/2023
10:30 PM
#7
It isnt actually that good. Other games that have come along since have done it way better.

I played the first 5 games, and when I booted up the 6th one I realized I wasnt really that interested
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Raka_Putra
03/09/2023
10:37 PM
#8
Ini Miney is adorable and funny. Or at least Mimi Miney's impression of her is.
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UshiromiyaEva
03/09/2023
10:38 PM
#9
2-4 isn't that good. Incredibly overrated culprit. AA2 has very little going for it.
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Underleveled
03/09/2023
10:46 PM
#10
Wendy Oldbag is amusing more often than she is annoying.

3-3 is worse than 2-3.
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LeonhartFour
03/09/2023
10:51 PM
#12
Dual Destinies is the second best game in the series, every case (except the intro case) is above average

Spirit channeling isn't that bad

2-3 isn't that bad either

E1-4 is an overrated case and features a version of Edgeworth that shouldn't exist
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Paratroopa1
03/09/2023
10:51 PM
#13
2-3 is a great case

3-3 is a great case

4-3 is a great case

6-4 is a great case

AA2 is every bit as good as its partners in the trilogy and everyone overhates it because of the misunderstood 2-3

AAI1 is an okay game, it's not that bad, E1-5 is a really good finale

Wendy Oldbag is a top tier character
LeonhartFour
03/09/2023
10:56 PM
#14
There's only one truly bad case in the entire series, and it's 4-3
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Paratroopa1
03/09/2023
10:57 PM
#15
New hot take: 4-3 is the only good case in AA4
NFUN
03/09/2023
10:58 PM
#16
Paratroopa1 posted...
2-3 is a great case

3-3 is a great case

4-3 is a great case

6-4 is a great case

AA2 is every bit as good as its partners in the trilogy and everyone overhates it because of the misunderstood 2-3

AAI1 is an okay game, it's not that bad, E1-5 is a really good finale

Wendy Oldbag is a top tier character
people don't like 6-4? I think thought it was pretty cute
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Paratroopa1
03/09/2023
10:59 PM
#17
people hate 6-4!
UshiromiyaEva
03/09/2023
10:59 PM
#18
6-4 is my most disliked case in the franchise lol.

Mostly out of spite. A waste of Athena, girl needs her own game.
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Crescent-Moon
03/09/2023
11:02 PM
#19
UshiromiyaEva posted...
2-4 isn't that good. Incredibly overrated culprit. AA2 has very little going for it.


Paratroopa1 posted...
people hate 6-4!
6-4 made Athena look like an incompetent idiot and may as well have reversed all of her character growth from PW5, and it had a terrible defendant. Yeah, 6-4 is bad.

Underleveled posted...
Wendy Oldbag is amusing more often than she is annoying.

3-3 is worse than 2-3.
3-3 is skirting the bottom tier of cases in the series for me. It remains Blade's pick for worst case in the entire series.
So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten!
TeamRocketElite
03/09/2023
11:08 PM
#20
Blackquill is the best prosecutor character
My bracket looked like random picks compared to his.
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LeonhartFour
03/09/2023
11:08 PM
#21
Crescent-Moon posted...
6-4 made Athena look like an incompetent idiot and may as well have reversed all of her character growth from PW5

Yeah, I don't get this take. Phoenix and Apollo still looked like incompetent idiots in their second cases, too, and nobody says their character development is irrelevant.

Paratroopa1 posted...
New hot take: 4-3 is the only good case in AA4

It's the only case that makes me verbally frustrated when I play it because the case against Machi has zero merit and somehow Apollo is utterly incapable of pointing this out the entire time (see, Apollo is incompetent beyond his second case, too!).
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th3l3fty
03/09/2023
11:10 PM
#22
Paratroopa1 posted...
New hot take: 4-3 is the only good case in AA4

I literally just finished replaying 4-3 today, and while it's not as terrible as I remembered, it's still not great
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Crescent-Moon
03/09/2023
11:12 PM
#23
Paratroopa1 posted...
New hot take: 4-3 is the only good case in AA4
While I can respect what they tried to do, 4-3 is just... There's too much "augh just make it stop" involved.

4-1 is in contention with 3-1 for best first case in the series. It's all downhill from there.
So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten!
Paratroopa1
03/09/2023
11:14 PM
#24
Apollo's only incompetent for parts of 4-3, for the rest of it he pops off

4-3's good because it's the only case in AA4 where Apollo has any kind of agency or reason to care about the murder, he's beside the point in every other case
NFUN
03/09/2023
11:14 PM
#25
4-1 isn't good

it's not bad either. it makes me feel absolutely nothing
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Paratroopa1
03/09/2023
11:16 PM
#26
NFUN posted...
4-1 isn't good

it's not bad either. it makes me feel absolutely nothing
Agree with this take for the most part

I found it exciting the very first time I played the game, before I knew the rest of AA4 was bad, but now I replay it and I'm just like, ok, whatever. it's not terrible but it's one of the few cases I think is 'overrated'
LeonhartFour
03/09/2023
11:16 PM
#27
Paratroopa1 posted...
Apollo's only incompetent for parts of 4-3, for the rest of it he pops off

Eh, he's only good when he's facing Daryan because at that point they've stopped caring about proving anything about the actual murder. Klavier takes him to school whenever Daryan isn't around, despite the fact that Machi literally could not have done anything in the case besides escape through the vent.

Trucy refusing to help Apollo with the magic trick is dumb, too. Thankfully 6-2 realized how bad this was and had her make up for it.
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MacArrowny
03/09/2023
11:16 PM
#28
AAI2 is the worst game in the series. Every case is twice as long as it should be.

Rating cases based on how good they are on replays is a bad metric.
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Crescent-Moon
03/09/2023
11:19 PM
#29
Paratroopa1 posted...


AAI1 is an okay game, it's not that bad, E1-5 is a really good finale
Yep. Agree here. Except for the moments of "Peanut gallery chimes in at just the right time with decisive evidence", it's a well built case against a brick wall of a final opponent that makes you seriously work for it and I enjoy the takedown.

In contrast, AAI2's final case has some decent buildup for much of it, but it has two issues. The primary Little Thief section runs far too long, and the "final battle" feels really limp compared to the first game and it sours it a lot. It's easy, it's quick, and the primary villain lacks the presence and raw feeling of "menace" of a final boss. The primary villain of the previous case feels more more like a "final boss" than he does. Also, "Lion Balloon" is the correct answer like half the time.
So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten!
UshiromiyaEva
03/09/2023
11:20 PM
#30
MacArrowny posted...
AAI2 is the worst game in the series.

Now THAT'S spicy.

Especially when AAI1 exists!
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LeonhartFour
03/09/2023
11:21 PM
#31
E1-5's problem is that the climax is the showdown with Calisto Yew, and then the case goes on for a few more hours. Alba is a good opponent in a technical sense, but he didn't "earn" a battle of that length. I had no reason to care about him (positively or negatively) before he was revealed as the big bad.

E2-5's problem is the entire first half of the case. The Little Thief section and the showdown with the final boss are great.
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KamikazePotato
03/09/2023
11:24 PM
#32
I couldn't even finish AAI1 it was so boring. Not necessarily bad, just really really boring.
It's Reyn Time.
Crescent-Moon
03/09/2023
11:24 PM
#33
The final showdown in E2-5 might have been my biggest disappointment in the entire series. I mean it wasn't terrible, but it paled in comparison to both the previous case and the previous game's final case.
So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten!
pyresword
03/09/2023
11:27 PM
#34
I played the first game and didn't care much for it. Would have worked much better if they removed all gameplay and just made it a pure visual novel.
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LeonhartFour
03/09/2023
11:30 PM
#35
Everything in AAI2 pales compared to E2-3, that's the one top ten worthy case from that game (and is probably the best non-epic case in the series)

1-3 is a top ten caliber case

Lotta Hart is a good witness

Phoenix/Iris should be canon

Any case that doesn't feature the Judge or the Judge's Brother is lesser for it because all other judges are boring
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LeonhartFour
03/09/2023
11:31 PM
#36
pyresword posted...
I played the first game and didn't care much for it. Would have worked much better if they removed all gameplay and just made it a pure visual novel.

sounds like you should just watch the anime then...!
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Crescent-Moon
03/09/2023
11:32 PM
#37
LeonhartFour posted...
Phoenix/Iris should be canon
Where is Iris?

Bring Iris back.
So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten!
KamikazePotato
03/09/2023
11:33 PM
#38
Whether Phoenix/Iris is canon or not, it does feel very weird that she disappeared off the planet after AA3.
It's Reyn Time.
Paratroopa1
03/09/2023
11:35 PM
#39
I don't think Iris should return and I think it makes perfect sense that Phoenix and Iris stay split up
LeonhartFour
03/09/2023
11:36 PM
#40
then don't hint that they're getting back together in the credits...!
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Crescent-Moon
03/09/2023
11:38 PM
#41
LeonhartFour posted...
then don't hint that they're getting back together in the credits...!
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Such a trolljob I was a sucker for Iris.
So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten!
LeonhartFour
03/09/2023
11:47 PM
#42
Susato is the second best assistant in the series

Kay is probably the worst assistant in the series and is only effective as a damsel in distress because she doesn't have good chemistry with Edgeworth

The third case in Layton/Ace Attorney is a top tier case
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azuarc
03/09/2023
11:48 PM
#43
Godot is overrated.
Only the exceptions can be exceptional.
Bitto
03/09/2023
11:57 PM
#44
The third case in Layton/Ace Attorney is a top tier case

I think everyone I know that played Layton/Ace Attorney agrees with this...!

Also, gotta go back to my roots. Richard Wellington, great culprit.
SSBM_Guy
"[Freud] started his scientific career by trying to explain the sexuality of a fish. And he failed."
Crescent-Moon
03/10/2023
12:06 AM
#45
Is that the golden one?
So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten!
pjbasis
03/10/2023
12:10 AM
#46
AA4 is not as bad as people say
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Bitto
03/10/2023
12:12 AM
#47
Crescent-Moon posted...
Is that the golden one?
Yeah
SSBM_Guy
"[Freud] started his scientific career by trying to explain the sexuality of a fish. And he failed."
MacArrowny
03/10/2023
12:13 AM
#48
6-1 is the second best case in AA6 - not because it's great, but because all the other non-6-5 cases are weak.

As a corollary to that, Nahyuta is the worst character in the series.
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Crescent-Moon
03/10/2023
12:15 AM
#49
Nahyuta is awful and his sudden turn at the end does nothing to take the bad case out of my mouth

Does anyone actually like Nahyuta, though?
So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten!
LeonhartFour
03/10/2023
12:17 AM
#50
Mike Meekins still holds the title of worst AA character
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