I remember thinking "you should probably stop" around the time he got offered his old research job with high pay and good insurance.Yeah, I think this was it for me too. That was before he shaved his head, so early-ish in season 1, I think.
How early in the series was that?
I didnt.yikes
No sympathy for Walt. Jesse you can kinda root for, because he eventually has the moment when he realises what he is doing and the greater effects.I was on his side right up until he started selling at his NA meetings.
When he rejected a good-paying job with excellent healthcare purely because he felt it was an insult to him.This. They literally offered to pay for his treatment costs and he was like nope gotta make meth
When he rejected a good-paying job with excellent healthcare purely because he felt it was an insult to him.Yeah, that was the first real ego moment we see with Walt in the series. Technically the first ever was him even breaking up with Gretchen before the show started because he felt small and inferior when meeting her wealthy family which is just hilarious. Sabotaged his own future out of his own pride.
Having binge watched the show in 2012 and having not seen it since it ended I don't remember a lot of events, but from what I can remember, the turning point was when he let Jane dieTbf Jane was blackmailing him. Not that that's reason to not save someone dying in front of you, but at least he had a reason, she wasn't just some innocent bystander.
Walt was doing crime and lying to his family but I felt like you could argue in decent faith that it was done with his family in mind up until after Tuco died. Him letting Jane die felt like the first 'holy shit, why the fuck did he do that' moment that had dire repercussions. The cold and twisted moments would only exponentially increase after that
Never did really, I wanted Walt to come out on top by the end
Im okay with watching a show or movie where the protagonist isnt a good person
Also i always see people clutch pearls about the ethics of fictional characters when it comes to this show, but they have no problem vicariously engaging in all the Sopranos' debauchery.You know, Quasimodo predicted all that.
Also i always see people clutch pearls about the ethics of fictional characters when it comes to this show, but they have no problem vicariously engaging in all the Sopranos' debauchery.Who's making excuses for Tony Soprano like they do for Walter White?
Also i always see people clutch pearls about the ethics of fictional characters when it comes to this show, but they have no problem vicariously engaging in all the Sopranos' debauchery.
Tbf Jane was blackmailing him. Not that that's reason to not save someone dying in front of you, but at least he had a reason, she wasn't just some innocent bystander.He also didn't just let Jane die, though. She was sleeping on her side until he was trying to wake Jesse and knocked her onto her back, which led to her choking. Him having an active part in her death, even if not entirely intentional, is a lot worse than if he had actually only watched her die because of her own choices.
Him having an active part in her death, even if not entirely intentional, is a lot worse than if he had actually only watched her die because of her own choices.I don't agree with that tbh. Even if she rolled over on her own, he actively chose to let her to die. He murdered her either way.
I don't agree with that tbh. Even if she rolled over on her own, he actively chose to let her to die. He murdered her either way.I think their point is that, while both are Walt choosing to let someone die through inaction, one of them is just that while the other is watching her die as a result of something he did .
I think their point is that, while both are Walt choosing to let someone die through inaction, one of them is just that while the other is watching her die as a result of something he did .I understand their point, I just disagree with it. They have identical levels of culpability.
The end result is the same, but they have different levels of culpability.
I understand their point, I just disagree with it. They have identical levels of culpability.For the death itself, yes.
For the death itself, yes.I don't think they were trying to make a point about the cause and effect of her death lol
For the casual events, no.
I don't think they were trying to make a point about the cause and effect of her death lolNot what I meant, sorry.
You all kept rooting for him after he stole those school supplies? Whats wrong with you?On another note, after
I mean Walt, as twisted as he is, cared about his family. There was no way he would've been able to just move away without looking suspicious and he wouldn't have been able to bring his family with him. That was the biggest roadblockThats true. But after everything he pulled off, I think there could of been a great reason to move his family away. Saying the donations helped or something.
Everytime a Sopranos topic comes up here, it's a lighthearted 500 post memefest. Everytime a Breaking Bad topic comes up here, it's serious business that not even some errant jokes about minerals or fucking Ted can lighten up for more than a few posts.That kind of proves the point. No one's debating Tony Soprano because he's just unequivocally a POS, but there's enough leeway with Walt that some people defend him.