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I totally skipped this gen (and the previous gen) and when the game came out it was totally buggy. Have they fixed that at all? Also in general are these games any good
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No. I don't think it's worth playing at all.
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so someone post this topic like every 2-3 Months.

the general consensus is.

Its by far the best Pokmon game in terms of challenge and story.

Your own personal mileage will vary depending on how you feel about the now much improved but still not good bugginess and graphics.
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It's worth playing if you can overlook how bad it looks and how buggy and poorly optimized it is, but whether you can overlook those issues depends on you and your standards for games. I personally wouldn't have bought it if I knew when it launched how bad it would turn out and how little they would do to fix it over time.
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I enjoy Pokemon.

you can tell the game lacks polish. Lots of things are buggy but not unplayable.

the really great story is pretty average. Its probably the best Pokemon story but that isnt saying much.

that being said it is a really addictive game. Its not as fun as Legends Arceus. But populating the world with Pokemon makes it a lot more fun than previous games.
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It's the best pokemon game since Gen 4 or 5.
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It's super buggy and unpolished so it's completely understandable if you'd draw the line there. That said, it has good late game/post game content, especially if you get the DLC. II personally like that it's easier than ever to build a competitive ready team, and the fact that they really leaned into shiny hunting.
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2nd best story in pokemon (black and white have best story)

the challange is actually decent (would be better if gyms scaled to your badge number)

its not a BAD game but is poorly optimized
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How are the actual pokemon in this generation?
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
How are the actual pokemon in this generation?

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MaxEffingBemis posted...
How are the actual pokemon in this generation?
https://www.serebii.net/scarletviolet/pokemon.shtml

There's a few good ones.
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wish i never bought it but it's decent
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
How are the actual pokemon in this generation?


there is a Clark Kent, Superman dolphin Pokmon
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The Pokemon models are finally fully 3d and look better than the usual cel shaded models.
MaxEffingBemis posted...
How are the actual pokemon in this generation?
Actually pretty good. I like a lot of the designs in this gen. Two of them (Kingambit and Hydrapple) are now among my top 10 favorite Pokemon of all time, and there's only one design in the whole gen (Spydops) that I just flat-out don't like at all.

gamepimp12 posted...
there is a Clark Kent, Superman dolphin Pokmon
don't forget the Kamen Rider cricket Pokemon, that's another badass and really creative design
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I had a fun enough time playing it but I don't think i've honestly "enjoyed" a pokemon game since gen 5 or 6, or maybe even 4 (except for Legends Arceus, which was dope). So if you get a dopamine hit from pokemon in general and have money to spend then go for it, especially if you've played most other games and know where the series is at at this point. Otherwise avoid, it's objectively a bad game and not worth $60.
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
https://www.serebii.net/scarletviolet/pokemon.shtml

There's a few good ones.
Yoooo there are some good ones here. Cool designs and cool type combos. Yeah, I think Ill get this game but Ill have someone get it for me for Christmas
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I'll be real with you. There are times where you can feel the poor optimization. Some background NPCs have about five frames per minute, certain areas on the map (say, around large bodies of water) will just randomly start to chug and lag, and while I personally haven't run into many bugs or glitches in the game nowadays, that doesn't mean it's fixed.

But the story is still pretty good (for a Pokemon game) and doesn't get in the way quite as much as past games, there's not nearly as much hand-holding as past generations, and some of the new Pokemon designs are fun. Plus, some of the fights can be rather challenging, though they're not impossibly difficult.
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CTrunks posted...
I'll be real with you. There are times where you can feel the poor optimization. Some background NPCs have about five frames per minute, certain areas on the map (say, around large bodies of water) will just randomly start to chug and lag, and while I personally haven't run into many bugs or glitches in the game nowadays, that doesn't mean it's fixed.

But the story is still pretty good (for a Pokemon game) and doesn't get in the way quite as much as past games, there's not nearly as much hand-holding as past generations, and some of the new Pokemon designs are fun. Plus, some of the fights can be rather challenging, though they're not impossibly difficult.
Honestly as long as its not super hand-holdy and provides a bit of a challenge Im happy. The problem with the modern games over the past 10ish years have been because of that imo. Gone are the days of struggling against Whitneys Miltank I feel like. So this is intriguing to me.
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they haven't fixed anything. it seems like sword and shield are actually the better games
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Yes, they are the best mainline Pokemon games despite the awful performance.
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No mainline pokemon game has been worth playing since dexit

Get over it
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It does things that the series has needed for a long time, like being free-roaming with little to no invisible walls.

Depending on where you go first, the game might be a cakewalk for the first half, or difficult at first, and then a cakewalk later.

The game is usually ugly and resembles a poorly optimized ps2 game.

The story is whatever, but it is at least better than SS.

New Pokemon are good and interesting.

DLC is good.
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S/V isn't challenging. You can pretty much solo it with Fuecoco and it's evolutions.
Tc play Arceus Legends and PalWorld.
It's the best pokemon game, and the bugs are way overblown. In a good hundred hours I had maybe two or three crashes which autosave basically ignored, and once I fell through a mountain which was highly amusing and made me giggle for a minute before flying out of there.

The bugs have no impact on the game itself. They're just silly little jank. I heard it's buggier if you multiplayer it, but it's fine alone
WingsOfGood posted...
Tc play Arceus Legends and PalWorld.
I do actually need to get back to Arceus. Im ~fairly~ early in the game I think. I just got the pokemon mount (forgot his name)
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
It's the best pokemon game, and the bugs are way overblown. In a good hundred hours I had maybe two or three crashes which autosave basically ignored, and once I fell through a mountain which was highly amusing and made me giggle for a minute before flying out of there.

The bugs have no impact on the game itself. They're just silly little jank. I heard it's buggier if you multiplayer it, but it's fine alone
I think its a bit reductive to say falling through mountains is silly jank when this is literally the biggest ip on the planet

Its a simple fact that these games do not perform the way they should, and the bugs were bad enough for me that i had to drop it.
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As others have said, it really all depends on how much unoptimization and how many bugs youre willing to deal with. The game in its current form still does not function as a game of its caliber should, far from it even
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The open world also sucks. It's big empty nothing. I vastly prefer curated routes to the emptiness of S/V. I don't think it added anything good at all to the series.
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I think its a bit reductive to say falling through mountains is silly jank when this is literally the biggest ip on the planet

Its a simple fact that these games do not perform the way they should, and the bugs were bad enough for me that i had to drop it.

i mean i dont know a AAA open world game where that cant happen.

Maybe the frequency sure

but people tend to act like it was Palworld buggy and it wasnt even close to that

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gamepimp12 posted...
but people tend to act like it was Palworld buggy and it wasnt even close to that

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gamepimp12 posted...
i mean i dont know a AAA open world game where that cant happen.

Maybe the frequency sure

but people tend to act like it was Palworld buggy and it wasnt even close to that
Dawg the bugs on day 1 were absurd and its goofy to think otherwise. Palworld is a literal work in progress, S/V are the biggest ip on the planet. I honestly domt see how palworld had more visible bugs either tho

The games look worse than early ps3 and still chug and lag while having big issues with collision detection and falling through maps. Its okay to say S/V are a mess in terms of how they perform and function.
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
The open world also sucks. It's big empty nothing. I vastly prefer curated routes to the emptiness of S/V. I don't think it added anything good at all to the series.
Oh yeah I do remember that being a big complaint: the open world being empty. Well. Im assuming the next game they make itll be 1. Optimized for the switch successor and 2. Learn from their mistakes Re: empty open world and such and well get a much better game/product
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i didn't want to open the valve and gas on about it, but i also absolutely hate the directionless, routeless open world and the complete lack of clear intended order of progression. you end up overleveled as shit without realizing it and bulldoze through the "gyms" which aren't gyms. i also think the story is dogwater as the kids say, and it's completely infantilized compared to other games. you're a complete dork goober weeny school kid, and the team star dork goober weeny school kid stuff and their copout "headquarters" areas that are just the same thing over and over are also crap. this concept was already done with team skull and it was much better

also TMs needing to be crafted to justify getting materials for no reason but crafting things being obligatory in open world games is also crap. they gutted one of the best quality of life changes of all time just to pad out your item bag because crafting is trendy

also no good endgame content like a battle tower or what have you. maybe DLC added something, but releasing paid DLC with the base game in its current state is frankly insane
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Gladius_ posted...
I am going to be honest. Lag and stuff is true but I have never fallen through the map and I played a lot of SV. I am pretty sure that's been fixed.
It happened to me like 3 times and i didnt even finish the game. Im glad it never happened to you, but like i said the bugs were bad enough that i was too annoyed to keep playing
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
No. I don't think it's worth playing at all.

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viewmaster_pi posted...
i didn't want to open the valve and gas on about it, but i also absolutely hate the directionless, routeless open world and the complete lack of clear intended order of progression. you end up overleveled as shit without realizing it and bulldoze through the "gyms" which aren't gyms. i also think the story is dogwater as the kids say, and it's completely infantilized compared to other games. you're a complete dork goober weeny school kid, and the team star dork goober weeny school kid stuff and their copout "headquarters" areas that are just the same thing over and over are also crap. this concept was already done with team skull and it was much better

also TMs needing to be crafted to justify getting materials for no reason but crafting things being obligatory in open world games is also crap. they gutted one of the best quality of life changes of all time just to pad out your item bag because crafting is trendy

also no good endgame content like a battle tower or what have you. maybe DLC added something, but releasing paid DLC with the base game in its current state is frankly insane

Yep. This is why I'm baffled by the praise the game gets. I find it to be empty, boring, and keeping a basic Pokemon battle system that I've played plenty of times before doesn't warrant the praise. The bases I suppose were a cool concept but in the end I thought it was a poorly thought out attempt at almost RTS style gameplay.

Otherwise, it's just open barren nothing with horrible performance. Having curated routes with almost puzzle like progression of them is much more enjoyable to me. Having buildings to go through or actual dungeons are vastly preferred to this "go anywhere but also there's nothing around but just some Pokemon" style.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
It's the best pokemon game, and the bugs are way overblown. In a good hundred hours I had maybe two or three crashes which autosave basically ignored, and once I fell through a mountain which was highly amusing and made me giggle for a minute before flying out of there.

The bugs have no impact on the game itself. They're just silly little jank. I heard it's buggier if you multiplayer it, but it's fine alone

Yep, 400+ hours in and had two crashes and one instance of clipping through the floor in a cave.

With the DLC, these are straight up the best Pokemon games and the competition isn't particularly close.

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I have not encountered major bugs, but used to be a bit of an issue. It's still worth playing, but bugs in general don't bother me as much as other people.
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
Yep. This is why I'm baffled by the praise the game gets. I find it to be empty, boring, and keeping a basic Pokemon battle system that I've played plenty of times before doesn't warrant the praise. The bases I suppose were a cool concept but in the end I thought it was a poorly thought out attempt at almost RTS style gameplay.

Otherwise, it's just open barren nothing with horrible performance. Having curated routes with almost puzzle like progression of them is much more enjoyable to me. Having buildings to go through or actual dungeons are vastly preferred to this "go anywhere but also there's nothing around but just some Pokemon" style.
yep, i miss towns, cities, interiors- i don't know if people remember, but there used to be stores, buildings, caves, tunnels, forests, etc to explore. there was an adventure to go on. now it's just copy-pasted repeating textures on randomly raised or lowered terrain with absolutely zero thought put into it where you can't even rotate the camera without the game hitching and stuttering

and terrastalizing is lame compared to mega evolution and Z moves. dynamaxing sort of combined the two and i think that worked well for the most part
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WingsOfGood posted...
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Palworld crashed on me or had me clip through the floor at least 4 times an extended play through for like 2 months.
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It runs like absolute ass, the open world kinda sucks, it's pretty ugly and the towns are awful.
Aside from that, they're pretty good. Nice story, the new pokemon are great.
It is the best pokemon game, but it is still a pokemon game meaning gamefreak knows they can make low quality games and still make billions.

It has a lot of issues but it is still the best pokemon game I really enjoyed it. The music is fantastic and the final act was incredible. The final act was what the made game great.

With that said, palworld is the best pokemon game right now
ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Its a simple fact that these games do not perform the way they should, and the bugs were bad enough for me that i had to drop it.
Why though? The falling through a mountain is funny, why do you say it should not happen?

Why would bugs that have zero gameplay impact negatively affect your enjoyment when they are amusing enough to be positive?
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