My guess is that the wide variety of transphobic opinions they hold make them transphobic, but is not wanting to date someone who is transgender, transphobic? I'm not sure, but I don't have my heels dug in on this.
My guess is that the wide variety of transphobic opinions they hold make them transphobic, but is not wanting to date someone who is transgender, transphobic? I'm not sure, but I don't have my heels dug in on this.Claiming you cant be attracted to someone on the basis of them being transgender is inherently transphobia (and a false notion.)
Are people still unaware that "Super Straight" is a transphobic dogwhistle? I thought this was common knowledge at this point.Apparently so!
Do people still say this? It seems like it came out of the weird manosphere corner of the internet, people kind of laughed at them, and it disappeared.This. I haven't heard that idiotic term in years.
Claiming you cant be attracted to someone on the basis of them being transgender is inherently transphobia (and a false notion.)What if someone would never have sex with a trans woman who has not had surgery? I don't see how it is transphobic to not want a penis involved. But I agree that that person may still find them attractive.
Not wanting to date or be intimate with a particular individual because you arent attracted to that individual is totally valid.
What if someone would never have sex with a trans woman who has not had surgery? I don't see how it is transphobic to not want a penis involved. But I agree that that person may still find them attractive.Nobody has to have intimacy with a penis (or a vagina!) if they dont want that. Its important to communicate boundaries with a potential partner.
Not advocating saying super straight though.
Nobody has to have intimacy with a penis (or a vagina!) if they dont want that. Its important to communicate boundaries with a potential partner.But what if this person wants to have sex, and therefore only interested in cis people (or possibly post op trans women)? Doesn't seem inherently transphobic
Please pardon the old man in me, as I have never heard this term prior to this...I don't think so, but I think announcing to the world "I am super straight!" is.
So, if a man is not attracted to a pre-op trans woman, that makes them transphobic?
Please pardon the old man in me, as I have never heard this term prior to this...
So, if a man is not attracted to a pre-op trans woman, that makes them transphobic?
Please pardon the old man in me, as I have never heard this term prior to this...Unless youre watching adult content or something ofc, you typically wont know what is in someones pants immediately upon encountering other individuals.
So, if a man is not attracted to a pre-op trans woman, that makes them transphobic?
But what if this person wants to have sex, and therefore only interested in cis people (or possibly post op trans women)? Doesn't seem inherently transphobicWhether or not you consent to being intimate with someone is different from attraction and sexual orientation.
BTW, I am not talking about myself. I would be willing to have sex with a trans woman, but unlikely to happen now that I am married.
Claiming you cant be attracted to someone on the basis of them being transgender is inherently transphobia (and a false notion.)I think automatically disqualifying a person with a specific set of genitals(pre-op) or a person unable to have children(post-op that haven't frozen eggs/sperm, infertile men/women) is fine, but those reasons tend to also get used as transphobic dog whistles. And yes there are other ways to have children(adoption, foster care, surrogacy) lots of people unfortunately don't feel it would be a "real" parent/child relationship, for whatever reason.
Not wanting to date or be intimate with a particular individual because you arent attracted to that individual is totally valid.
I don't think so, but I think announcing to the world "I am super straight!" is.I dont think anyone does this, or at least Ive never heard anyone say it.
I think automatically disqualifying a person with a specific set of genitals(pre-op) or a person unable to have children(post-op that haven't frozen eggs/sperm, infertile men/women) is fine, but those reasons tend to also get used as transphobic dog whistles. And yes there are other ways to have children(adoption, foster care, surrogacy) lots of people unfortunately don't feel it would be a "real" parent/child relationship, for whatever reason.Absolutely. Some people are only looking for casual, no strings, etc. as well.
Unless youre watching adult content or something ofc, you typically wont know what is in someones pants immediately upon encountering other individuals.
The whole thing was pretty cringy, but insisting that someone's gender identity somehow trumps another person's sexuality is really gross.So, this is another example of transphobia. Nobody is saying you have to date someone youre not attracted to or that you are being forced to be attracted to someone.
So, if you meet someone, find them physically attractive at first glance, then find out they are trans (either pre or post op) and then decide you wouldn't date them based off of that, that's transphobic?That is your prerogative to decide who you date or who you dont date.
As a 46 year old straight man that's been married for 20 years, I'm honestly in the weeds on something like this, but would like to educate myself.
So, this is another example of transphobia. Nobody is saying you have to date someone youre not attracted to or that you are being forced to be attracted to someone.Saying it's transphobic not to be attracted is dictating other people's sexuality, and that is gross. It's very possible that someone who otherwise might be attracted and willing to be with a trans person is held back by such beliefs, but that's a person by person scenario and that is their own personal journey. This broad idea that it's inherently transphobic is bad.
That is your prerogative to decide who you date or who you dont date.
Someone may be attracted to someone and then find out their grandmother is black or brown, and then decide they dont want to date or have children with that person based on that criteria. It happens.
Alternatively, straight men can date a pre/non-op trans woman. That doesnt make him gay or bi.I want to highlight this part as well because it is very important in these discussions!
Whether or not you consent to being intimate with someone is different from attraction and sexual orientation.I agree
To put it more simply, if someone is attracted to women, that does not mean only cis women. Sexual attraction doesnt work that way, and its transphobic to say your sexual orientation is only cis people, or that its not possible to be attracted to someone/anyone solely on the basis because they are trans.
Many people operate on stereotypes or cliches, but trans people actually come in all shapes and sizes, as do cis people. Being attracted to women doesnt automatically mean youre attracted to every cis woman, either. You can be attracted to one woman but not another.
Is "super gay" a "heterophobic dogwhistle"?
Are they part of an online community using it as a way to generalize and attack all heterosexual people? If so probably.Can't the same be said about "super straight" then?
If not, it's probably someone just very proud of their sexuality, or sharing that they have zero attraction to the opposite gender.
Stop making up meaning of words.Real what is a woman energy
Can't the same be said about "super straight" then?
Good or bad faith, just depending on the context?
The phrase 'super straight' was coined for the purpose of transphobia, that's the context that is making it transphobic. It's not really difficult, IMO.Yep, it is trying to say the person is only attracted to cis people (which is inherently transphobic.)
No, this is false and actually harmful to progress for equal rights and social equality.None of that has to do with personal attraction. You are trying to dictate people's personal sexuality. That is no less gross than telling anyone else that their sexuality is wrong. The whole super straight thing was really cringy and unnecessary, but there are different ways to define "straight." It's up to each person to define themselves.
Combating bigotry and racism, homophobia, prejudicial discrimination are vital to improving society, as well as inequality as it relates to wealth and class.
The difference is people learning to unpack their prejudices and set a good example for others, rather than double down and perpetuate more bigotry and harm, to their friends, peers, children, etc.
Lots of people have subconscious bias, racist ideas, so on and so forth. That doesnt make them bad people because of how society shaped them. Whats important is they grow as people and be a good ally and citizen.
Trans people, for a closer example, grapple with internalized transphobia and that can be a big mountain to climb. Others, like Caitlyn Jenner or Blair White, perpetuate transphobia while being trans themselves.
Id also like to point out that not all phobias are solved by knowledge and education. Oftentimes a phobia can have a deeply rooted subconscious cause that can only be worked through with therapy. I have some phobias of different humans, and theyre by no means choice or based on ignorance. I dont believe Ive ever let most of them slip except my fear of babies; Ive had to confront a few times and its always been trivialized by others who find out.Its certainly something to say about putting in the work and individual responsibility, if that includes therapy too. No one can do that work for you, but it still requires that knowledge and education to do in the first place and unpack those prejudices.
I suppose what I mean is, if someone has a phobia and they dont let it alter their treatment of other people in regular scenarios, then Im not sure its right to condemn them for it. During conflict or forced exposure, their phobia might slip out, and that can be a different story. But if you know someone does have a phobia to you as a person, it seems best to avoid confrontation when possible.
Were really complex creatures, and generalized statements are inherently wrong.
None of that has to do with personal attraction. You are trying to dictate people's personal sexuality. That is no less gross than telling anyone else that their sexuality is wrong. The whole super straight thing was really cringy and unnecessary, but there are different ways to define "straight." It's up to each person to define themselves.This is false and Im not sure why you are so hung up on this line of attack towards me.
The phrase 'super straight' was coined for the purpose of transphobia, that's the context that is making it transphobic. It's not really difficult, IMO.As well it may just be very likely that they're taking the piss out of "super straight."
Remember, super-straight guys are nasty. They don't wash their genitals or butthole because touching those means they are gay.They also apparently have to recolor pro-trans content if all the ss "memes" I've seen have anything to include.