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Prior to Fox existing, politics were somewhat cordial and less chaotic. Since they existed, the rise in white nationalism and right wing terrorism has skyrocketed. Politics has changed dramatically now and there's a political arm for a political party. Before the media had to remain somewhat bipartisan, now it's free game for right wing networks that only preach Dem hate and Republican love to exist and dominate the market.
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Right wing media is a cancer

Fox News is the most well known, yes, but now they're just one of many awful sources conservatives can use to base their shitty opinions
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Agreed. I think they're also responsible for major news networks caring less about journalist integrity and actually informing the public sufficiently with being ratings obsessed and trying to reclaim the viewers that Faux claimed.
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I think Historically it was talk Radio that did it first with Limbaugh being a forerunner and Fox essentially just copied that model and went ham during the Obama presidency.
WingsOfGood posted...
I think Historically it was talk Radio that did it first with Limbaugh being a forerunner and Fox essentially just copied that model and went ham during the Obama presidency.
It was Reagan's Administration rescinding the fairness doctrine that caused all of this.

But Rush was on AM radio at the time and while he had a sizeable audience, it was not share of viewers that Fox currently has in the cable news landscape.
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WingsOfGood posted...
I think Historically it was talk Radio that did it first with Limbaugh being a forerunner and Fox essentially just copied that model and went ham during the Obama presidency.

Prettymuch. Though as far as cable news, online media and live streaming prettymuch killed any attempt at impartiality. Nobody watches 24 hour news that cycles every 2 hours, anymore; it's all about the political/news commentators.
WingsOfGood posted...
I think Historically it was talk Radio that did it first with Limbaugh being a forerunner and Fox essentially just copied that model and went ham during the Obama presidency.

This, I was going to say, it was Rush that started this lunacy. He proved the outrage and fear conservative media was great for brain washing the audience.
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Fox is bad, but it generally only feeds biases and viewpoints that already exist in their viewers.

The real problem of today is social media.
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Nah, the foundation is pretty much with Rush Limbaugh. When Fox News was being put together, Roger Ailes - who was the producer of Limbaugh's TV show - explicitly modeled the anchors on-air personalities after him.
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Fox is bad, but it generally only feeds biases and viewpoints that already exist in their viewers.
Where do you think those idiotic opinions came from in the first place?
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ClayGuida posted...
It was Reagan's Administration rescinding the fairness doctrine that caused all of this.

Reason # 1 billion-something why Reagan is a piece of shit who ruined this country. He makes me hope hell exists because he deserves to suffer forever.
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Hayame_Zero posted...
Nah, the foundation is pretty much with Rush Limbaugh. When Fox News was being put together, Roger Ailes - who was the producer of Limbaugh's TV show - explicitly modeled the anchors on-air personalities after him.
Again, Limbaugh wasn't being played in every waiting room across the country.
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ClayGuida posted...
It was Reagan's Administration rescinding the fairness doctrine that caused all of this.
This was the real kicker
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ClayGuida posted...
Prior to Fox existing, politics were somewhat cordial and less chaotic.
I strongly disagree with this specific claim, even if I think your broader point is mostly correct. The 60s and 70s were filled with major political figures being assassinated, and bombs and plane hijackings getting regular use as tactics of firinge political groups. The relative cordiality of the late 80s and 90s is a historical aberration, and even they were dotted with the LA Riots, Waco, the OKC bombing...
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Reagan needs to be remembered as one of the worst presidents of all time. Every modern problem can be traced back to him in some way.
My mom still brainwashes herself with those right wing channels. For some reason she's fixated on ivermectin and the 'stolen' election.

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Reagan needs to be remembered as one of the worst presidents of all time. Every modern problem can be traced back to him in some way.

It's crazy how accurate this statement is. I listen to someone who between them and callers talk about various historical things and it's really opened my mind to the degree which Reagan truly fucked this nation. Dude even made a bargain with the terrorists during the Iran hostage situation to keep them longer because it would help his political odds and when he did beat Carter he got the hostages released.

It's a shame that dude wasn't a better shot because the sooner he would have been out of office the less harm he would have caused.
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TheHoldSteady posted...
Right wing media is a cancer

Fox News is the most well known, yes, but now they're just one of many awful sources conservatives can use to base their shitty opinions

Kradek posted...
It's crazy how accurate this statement is. I listen to someone who between them and callers talk about various historical things and it's really opened my mind to the degree which Reagan truly fucked this nation. Dude even made a bargain with the terrorists during the Iran hostage situation to keep them longer because it would help his political odds and when he did beat Carter he got the hostages released.

It's a shame that dude wasn't a better shot because the sooner he would have been out of office the less harm he would have caused.
Bush was basically in lock step with him. It wouldn't have mattered.
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ClayGuida posted...
Bush was basically in lock step with him. It wouldn't have mattered.

Maybe not, however I think back to the climax of Joker with the line "you get what you fucking deserve!"

And I feel like Reagan never actually got what he fucking deserved, instead he was lauded as some damn hero who saved his nation from the grip of communism (actually helping the common person).
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ClayGuida posted...
Prior to Fox existing, politics were somewhat cordial and less chaotic

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Not just the USA but in the UK and Australia too. Murdoch used his media outlets in Australia to sway elections and still have undue influence there despite Murdoch renouncing his citizenship decades ago. Sky News Australia is pretty much a Fox News clone. And unlike the US where there are rival outlets that aren't as far to the right, there are very little of them in Australia, which is why there are many politicians like former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd calling for a government investigation into the outlet.
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This is stupid. 130 years passed between this and Fox News radicalizing people.
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To dm extent, yes. But I also think Fox News just pandered to what was already present in this country, which is institutionalized bigotry.
It feels like an overnight change that started when Trump was running for president.

You got a mixture of Fox News, fake Twitter profiles, and false information spread over Facebook. All the while the government let it all develop.
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NPC posted...
I would say that slavery was worse but that's just me
Slavery didn't happen to the US. 1619 the US didn't exist. The land did, but the country did not.
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ClayGuida posted...
Slavery didn't happen to the US. 1619 the US didn't exist. The land did, but the country did not.
Okay, Jim Crow than.
NPC posted...
Okay, Jim Crow than.
You realize Fox has given us a modern day Jim Crow on steroids? The sequel always tends to be worse.
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9/11
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ClayGuida posted...
You realize Fox has given us a modern day Jim Crow on steroids? The sequel always tends to be worse.
This is an insane take lol. How is fox preventing black people from voting??
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ironman2009 posted...
9/11
Pretty sure Fox was responsible for more deaths from covid than Bin Laden was for 9/11.
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NPC posted...
This is an insane take lol. How is fox preventing black people from voting??
Ask Texas, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and every other deep red state.
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ClayGuida posted...
Again, Limbaugh wasn't being played in every waiting room across the country.

But he's the ur-example? The template for success that Fox has run like a 100m Olympic relay with?

Even if you don't concede that, if we're doing all-time, capital-w Worst, I'd still point to Reagan and the economic policies who put the working class on a 40 year slide into poverty and a new feudalism, or Newt whose Contract on America was really the death knell for civility and bipartisanship in our government when it became openly and nakedly about seizing power instead of just governing with some maliciousness
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Buff_Drinklots posted...
crying about fox like it's fuckin 2003
Long term damage due to Fox.

Without Fox every woman still has access to health care.
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DnDer posted...
But he's the ur-example? The template for success that Fox has run like a 100m Olympic relay with?

Even if you don't concede that, if we're doing all-time, capital-w Worst, I'd still point to Reagan and the economic policies who put the working class on a 40 year slide into poverty and a new feudalism, or Newt whose Contract on America was really the death knell for civility and bipartisanship in our government when it became openly and nakedly about seizing power instead of just governing with some maliciousness
And who helped coerce voters into keeping these people elected? It wasn't Rush. It's Fox.

Fox has poisoned the brains of their viewers to believing that the guy with a gold fucking toilet is just like them. They've misinformed their viewers so much that they'd rather side with Russia over America.

Rush could only dream to have that type of sway over Americans.

Russian Assets like Ron Johnson would never stay in power if not for Fox News. Donald Trump would have never been President if not for Fox News.

An entire media conglomerate running as a campaign arm for a political party is shit that happened in other countries, not ours. Then Fox News happened.
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ClayGuida posted...
Pretty sure Fox was responsible for more deaths from covid than Bin Laden was for 9/11.

That's a pretty simple way to look at how 9/11 changed the country
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ironman2009 posted...
That's a pretty simple way to look at how 9/11 changed thr country
Fox didn't change the country?

Do you see how far right and openly fascisty Republicans are? Republicans are openly cheering for Russia. Reagan is rolling in his grave.
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