You guys are getting conspiracy brained just as much as MAGA people are
They will actually. Trump is vocally anti-muslim. He will deport Palestinians from the USA to Gaza.
He even discusses kicking out protestors labeling them anti-semitic and un-american:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/19/politics/donald-trump-immigration-agenda/index.html
They will actually. Trump is vocally anti-muslim. He will deport Palestinians from the USA to Gaza.
He even discusses kicking out protestors labeling them anti-semitic and un-american:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/19/politics/donald-trump-immigration-agenda/index.html
Have you guys stopped to think that it's Biden's actions and not some Israeli psyop...publicizing those actions? Maybe that's what's turning people off?
You guys are getting conspiracy brained just as much as MAGA people are, anytime people react in a way that doesn't involve reflexively voting for Democrats, you create some conspiracy theory to paper over genuine domestic divisions and different reactions to events based on different values.
They are not going to suffer more under Trump.
How would Trump make this worst. People keep saying that, but no. There is no proof at all that Trump would be worst than Biden on this.
'We Can't Let This Happen': Trump Slams Biden Plan To Bring In Refugees From Gazahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHr_4ed1TuA
No he isn't. Asking nicely while using absolutely none of the enormous diplomatic and economic leverage he has is not "negotiating".
If he keeps arming and funding Israel, he's going to lose this election.He actually has a chance of winning this election. If he put actual sanctions on Israel, he would 100% lose the election.
I do enjoy arguing with cj but christ.Why. You can barely tell what he means most of the time cause he types nonsense
Uhhh he has to negotiate with hamas too.Hamas hasn't been the barrier to a ceasefire and hostage exchange for a long while.
Only strongarming Israel isn't how this conflict ends.
How would Trump make this worst. People keep saying that, but no. There is no proof at all that Trump would be worst than Biden on this.
Trump's own words prove it. One cannot say there is no proof when Trump himself states what he would do.
In the video below he calls Gaza the biggest terrorist haven on the planet and then goes on a rant to bach the Palestinians and call them snakes.
How would Trump make this worst. People keep saying that, but no. There is no proof at all that Trump would be worst than Biden on this.Your historical illiteracy regarding what the Nazis did in Germany in the 1930's is on full display
Three former U.S. foreign policy officials in Donald Trump's administration met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other public figures in Israel on Monday, according to a person with direct knowledge of the matter.
Among the main goals of the trip was to obtain a better understanding of Israel's complex domestic political situation, said the person familiar with the visit. Netanyahu's coalition is beset by internal disagreements, with many Israelis blaming his government for failing to prevent an Oct. 7 Hamas attack.
It was a rare case of Trump allies traveling abroad as part of an organized delegation to meet foreign officials. It took place amid strains between Israel and the Biden administration about Israel's conduct of the war in Gaza.
Trump, the Republican candidate for president, consistently portrays himself as a more reliable ally to Israel than Democratic President Joe Biden, his rival in the Nov. 5 election.
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Hamas hasn't been the barrier to a ceasefire and hostage exchange for a long while.
While Trump says this. Biden is actively helping to do a genocide. Biden defends Israelie government who has said and done worse then Trump. And when our own allies, other dems , and college students say hey let's not do that. He attacks them calling them violent or racist. People want to act like Trump would be worst to help their conscience, but no. Don't turn away from how horrible Biden is. Because here in AMERICA . Trump would be worse and we have to stop that. But not over there.
How would Trump make this worst. People keep saying that, but no. There is no proof at all that Trump would be worst than Biden on this.
Hamas hasn't been the barrier to a ceasefire and hostage exchange for a long while.
Your historical illiteracy regarding what the Nazis did in Germany in the 1930's is on full display
Trump's talked about rounding up millions of US immigrants into camps, where does that sound familiar
Why. You can barely tell what he means most of the time cause he types nonsenseHe stays on topic.
I no more about history then you .. and again fuck you talk. Israel is literally doing that as we speak and Biden supports it.
I no more about history then you .. and again fuck you talk. Israel is literally doing that as we speak and Biden supports it.I don't see any videos of Biden gleefully expressing support over Israel's sins like Trump is.
I don't see any videos of Biden gleefully expressing support over Israel's sins like Trump is.
They have.Advising you to come back to reality now.
The negotiations aren't going to go anywhere. Israel won't accept a deal that doesn't have Hamas stepping down from power/in jail. Hamas won't accept a deal that does have Hamas leaving the strip. All fucking bullshit
What do you think would change if Trump was in charge?
I no more about history then you .. and again fuck you talk. Israel is literally doing that as we speak and Biden supports it.
It's really depressing that memelords share this around, or try to force stopping a genocide as some binary situation that Biden can't be persuaded on or pressured on in any way, shape, or form.So what exactly can I, as a completely average person, do? Go do a walk/protest like the ones at the collage campuses? Say that I'm not going to vote for Biden?
Every time people assist in muddying the waters with this shit, they're making it easier for Biden to avoid pressure and say shit like "Israel isn't committing genocide."
These are people, not props. Knock it off.
Advising you to come back to reality now.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-04-30-2024-f5e14fd176d69f9c4e23b48f3ab5af6a
Which is why international condemnation and pressure is so critical in getting the genocide to stop.
Because Israel won't suddenly decide to stop pushing further into Gaza and pushing the remaining refugees out of the region.
He actually has a chance of winning this election. If he put actual sanctions on Israel, he would 100% lose the election.
Is Trump was in Charge I foresee him publicly going after college students for protesting. Going after respected international agencies to defend a genocide, attacking our other allies that do not fall in line. I see him lying on stage about seeing dead babies, I see him devaluing the lives of some groups of people. I see his admin going after protesters. I see him using false claims of a antisemitism attack people who question the genocide, I see him and his lacky going after Democrats that say no more. All while giving them billions of dollars even bypassing congress to do so.
Seems about right ?
Then why go with him over Biden?
What's your evidence on this? Independents do not approve of Israel's current approach in Gaza; only Republicans do.Not approving of his current approach can both mean that they want him to do more or less aid.
What's your evidence on this? Independents do not approve of Israel's current approach in Gaza; only Republicans do.Hes correct.
What's your evidence on this? Independents do not approve of Israel's current approach in Gaza; only Republicans do.
One can criticize Biden for what he has done, but to deny what Trump says as a means of criticizing Biden is strange to do.
this is about the United States and keeping Trump the fuck out of power. Everything else is secondary.
I dont think it's a payop, I just think bibi is a huge fan of what you guys are doing.
So what exactly can I, as a completely average person, do? Go do a walk/protest like the ones at the collage campuses? Say that I'm not going to vote for Biden?This is hinting at what underpins Kimberly's complaint though: the idea that Biden's policy toward Gaza is an arbitrary fact unchanging through time, that protests don't work and have never worked, that people speaking out or attempting to find any sort of lever or power is inherently doomed to fail. Like yeah, as a matter of fact, you CAN go to protests, you can donate to relief foundations or activist organizations. You should if you think this is an important issue.
I am not going over him. I am saying they both suck the same amount on this. Also all those things were stuff that Biden did.
I am saying they both suck the same amount on this.
you're scared of the consequences
So the entire point of your argument was... that Biden is bad and Trump is also bad on this topic.
And it changes nothing about who you should vote for.
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No I'm just scared of the consequences of a trump presidency. Both for the people here and in Gaza. Its not super complicated.