That's literally my point. The fact that Light gets so much debate would be more of an indicator he's not a complete monster.It's actually more an example that people lack basic media literacy no different than some of the braindead takes I've heard about Walter White as both are without question the main antagonists of their own stories. Near was 100% correct in his conclusion that Light is just a mass murderer who got drunk on the power of the Death Note, and the moment he wrote Lind L Taylor's name in the Death Note out of spite was when he proved this.
Helps me discover new games and moviesThis, it has some uses. I constantly see threads similar to "are there any series where you end up fighting the protagonist of the previous entry???" and the site sorts them by type of media if you're looking for that sort of thing.
"x has no value"Pretty much
>describes value of x
It was an actual character in a work that the thread voted on. It was 1 to 2 years ago so I wouldn't be able to find it but if you've lurked those threads for any length you'd regularly see mass murdering villains like this responsible for dozens to millions of deaths dropped because of some minor signs of genuine love somewhere or a pet the dog moment or not being as bad as even worse villains. These are of course not things people outside the site would consider to automatically override any amount of heinousness.
It's also run by a mod and admin that rivals Dtoast in incompetence.Yeah this. This shit with the new admins and how they handled the one of older moderators immunity to any wrongdoing he did convinced me to leave the site.
https://www.reddit.com/r/tvtropes/comments/1771u0e/memoirs_of_an_extroper_a_critical_selfexamination/#k4rn3vg
https://www.reddit.com/r/tvtropes/comments/16m0nqg/when_will_tv_tropes_just_cease_to_function_or/
https://old.reddit.com/r/tvtropes/comments/1bcccfq/fighteer_encourages_suicide_of_those_he_finds/
Thinking something has no value because it has no value to you is pretty narrow-minded. What's wrong with letting people just have fun?But they're having fun wrong .
What are you talking about?
the worst part of tvtropes is its created this super annoying thing where people talk about fiction now avoid describing very simple concepts or plot devices and instead substitute in the stupid esoteric trope names so that less people know wtf they're talking aboutsuch as?
the worst part of tvtropes is its created this super annoying thing where people talk about fiction now avoid describing very simple concepts or plot devices and instead substitute in the stupid esoteric trope names so that less people know wtf they're talking about
now avoid describing very simple concepts or plot devices and instead substitute in the stupid esoteric trope names so that less people know wtf they're talking aboutOne of the reasons tropes exist is to do exactly what you are describing, which is take the burden of explanations off the person who knows what they are talking about and onto the person who doesn't.
I'm saying nobody outside of Tvtropes has all their little technicalities and criteria such as any amount of supposed genuine care, how much resources they have, how off-screen their actions are to describe monstrous evil villains. It's pretty easy to note when a villain is supposed to be monstrously evil that the fanbase also feels that "actually he once had a pet mouse he didn't kill" doesn't override.
Seen people do that for much less.
People can have personal feelings for a character but they generally acknowledge that.
A fandom's general consensus is much easier to realize if a character is seen as monstrously evil or not.
Are you part of that thread? You're shilling for them so hard it's hard to imagine you're doing so without having a personal stake in it yet you seem ignorant of the stuff that have went down there. Going "u-um anyone can be like that" doesn't matter. The point is they're nitpicky and pedantic about their arbitrary and detached technicalities beyond what most rational viewers are which drove them to create an insulated culture filled with unfriendly cliques. And this isn't even me. This is what they themselves acknowledged on the header of their first thread.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok
I've spent probably too much time on that site lol