What's Going On With Yasuke's Wikipedia Page?

Lot of racists suddenly aware of Yasuke are mad about Yasuke.

Some idiot started claiming Yasuke was a Samurai and is on some edit crusade but people keep reverting it because he was not.

I have only ever read that he was samurai. Lots of other things in question about him, but not the samurai part.

Some idiot started claiming Yasuke was a Samurai and is on some edit crusade but people keep reverting it because he was not.

though that seems to be a content dispute.

I have only ever read that he was samurai. Lots of other things in question about him, but not the samurai part.

Some idiot started claiming Yasuke was a Samurai and is on some edit crusade but people keep reverting it because he was not.

It's been debated among historians for a long time. Some claim he was, others claim he was merely a retainer to Nobunaga I believe. There's no real proof he was but also no concrete proof he wasn't.

Reminds me of this extremely weird edit war that was going on with silent hill's wiki. Some dude who cared very much about whether fictional characters was circumcised or not kept editing various silent hill's character's histories that they were most likely circumcised because *insert bat-shit insane theory here*.

But yeah just dudes wild'n out because of the assassin creed thing.....that, and they are freaking nuts.

So which is it? First you decisively state that he was not then you state there's no concrete proof that he wasn't?

These two posts don't jive.

I happen to believe he was not since it would be pretty known and recorded if he was made an actual Samurai.
Nice try at a gotcha though. I swear people here have real issues actually communicating, always searching for that moment.

So which is it? First you decisively state that he was not then you state there's no concrete proof that he wasn't?

These two posts don't jive.

Not that guy, but I genuinely dont think theres enough evidence to prove it either way. So for me, Im not gonna say he definitely wasnt, but also not gonna say he definitely was.

In terms of video games tho i do not care about accurate. let him be a samurai because that sounds cool to play as

There is no dispute except for racists

I wouldn't jump the gun so quickly on this. As I said, only ever read that he was a samurai, but it is also entirely possible all I've ready was pop history rags. The history nerds who go deep into it are going to have a different perspective, and I'm not gonna call all of them racist... At least not yet.

The wiki war? Obvious racist bent. No dispute except for racists? I don't know about that.

I posted 4 links earlier, 2 of which I would consider to be credible authorities on the subject. Time also does a good job on historical pieces.

I mean to be fair the words historians assume or historians thought do a lot of heavy lifting in those articles.

We really just do not know a ton about Yasuke other than that he was an African man who worked under Nobunaga. As I said earlier, there just isnt a ton of hard evidence either way.

Theres also contention in what it means to be a samurai. One of the articles mentions Yasuke reaching the rank of samurai while another points out that samurai as a concept is loose. I wont object to be people saying he was a samurai, but I cant definitely say he was.

I suppose that's fair.

Ultimately, I still find it hard to believe it's anybody except racists upset over the new AC who are editing out him as being a samurai given that we already know they're griping about him merely existing.

I happen to believe he was not since it would be pretty known and recorded if he was made an actual Samurai.
Nice try at a gotcha though. I swear people here have real issues actually communicating, always searching for that moment.

Some idiot started claiming Yasuke was a Samurai and is on some edit crusade but people keep reverting it because he was not.

Adding racism to your trolling now I see.

Lockley said. Yasuke was one of the 30 men with the feudal lord. [...] Theres no record, but tradition holds it that [Yasuke] was the one who took Nobunagas head to save it from the enemy. [...] Yasuke, therefore, by escaping with the head, could have been seen and has been seen as changing Japanese history,

his article is now twices as long as the article of Akechi Mitsuhide

Assuming you're talking about Wikipedia, this is not true. Yasuke's article is significantly shorter than Akechi. They only appear about the same on the scrollbar (Yasuke's still being shorter here) because the citations section on Yasuke's article is longer. Nix Yasuke's "In Popular Culture" section also and Akechi's article's wordcount is dramatically bigger.

So, why did you lie about this?

I literally took the word count right out of wikipedia.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/ff6bb62e.jpg

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I checked myself using Word's wordcount and these are definitely not accurate. Like I said, Yasuke's article has about 1,500 words bloated on to it by the References section. I'll concede that it turns out that Yasuke's article is longer by about 500 words, but again, like I already said, cut out the In Popular Culture Section and it's less than Akechi's. They have about the same in historical content writing with an edge to Akechi, Yasuke is just in more fictional media that Wikipedia thinks is worth mentioning.

But you want to know who has a longer article than either of those guys combined? Surprise, it's William Adams. Do you have any opinions on why that is now?

This only applies for the English version of the articles, right?

others claim he was merely a retainer to Nobunaga I believe.

I checked myself using Word's wordcount and these are definitely not accurate. Like I said, Yasuke's article has about 1,500 words bloated on to it by the References section. I'll concede that it turns out that Yasuke's article is longer by about 500 words, but again, like I already said, cut out the In Popular Culture Section and it's less than Akechi's. They have about the same in historical content writing with an edge to Akechi, Yasuke is just in more fictional media that Wikipedia thinks is worth mentioning.

But you want to know who has a longer article than either of those guys combined? Surprise, it's William Adams. Do you have any opinions on why that is now?

Yeah, go on, move some goalposts until you tried to gaslight me and accused me of lying and making stuff up.

I'm out of here, that's what I get for posting in non-funny topics.

Some idiot started claiming Yasuke was a Samurai and is on some edit crusade but people keep reverting it because he was not.

I happen to believe he was not since it would be pretty known and recorded if he was made an actual Samurai.
Nice try at a gotcha though. I swear people here have real issues actually communicating, always searching for that moment.