The democrat party is still run by conservative dems. Any progressive like Bernie who reaches for the top, will always get shut down by the elites.
embarrassing that there are people in 2024 still parroting this nonsenseDo you deny that Biden is way more conservative than Bernie? And that all the people who lead the party are more like Biden than Bernie?
Do you deny that Biden is way more conservative than Bernie? And that all the people who lead the party are more like Biden than Bernie?
The DNC hates him and his polices and his voters, they worship the establishment.
Also, actual antisemitism from the same people that support Israel ( -_-)Does that make everyone who voted against Hilary misogynists?
Thats different than your initial claim that the primary was rigged by elites.By elites I meant the leaders of the party. Biden is an elite
Classic motte and bailey
By elites I meant the leaders of the party. Biden is an elite
Are people really upset that he got out politicked by someone else building a larger and stronger coalition in 2020? Thats how winning elections works.Bernie can not fail. Bernie can only be failed.
Regardless of how you may personally feel about Bernie I think you can rationally admit the Democratic party obviously didn't want him as a candidate. It's not some crazy conspiracy. We watched every person drop out and endorse Biden as soon as it looked like Bernie had a chance. Maybe they thought Biden was the best candidate to win the election, maybe they hated Bernie's policies, either way they clearly did not want Bernie to win.
Regardless of how you may personally feel about Bernie I think you can rationally admit the Democratic party obviously didn't want him as a candidate. It's not some crazy conspiracy. We watched every person drop out and endorse Biden as soon as it looked like Bernie had a chance. Maybe they thought Biden was the best candidate to win the election, maybe they hated Bernie's policies, either way they clearly did not want Bernie to win.By party do you mean the voters?
Regardless of how you may personally feel about Bernie I think you can rationally admit the Democratic party obviously didn't want him as a candidate. It's not some crazy conspiracy. We watched every person drop out and endorse Biden as soon as it looked like Bernie had a chance. Maybe they thought Biden was the best candidate to win the election, maybe they hated Bernie's policies, either way they clearly did not want Bernie to win.
Does that make everyone who voted against Hilary misogynists?I would say some of them were but when the DNC emails were leaked, they literally said there's no way a Jewish person could be elected president
Thats not the motte and baileyThey did. In a sense. There was definitely a lot of talks between top democrats about what to do about Bernie.
You said they "shut down" Bernie
i.e. they rigged the election
They did. In a sense. There was definitely a lot of talks between top democrats about what to do about Bernie.Whose ass is your source for this? Its someones ass for sure.
the second time he was actually winning the same way trump won the primary. He had 40% for but the other 60% was mixed up between multiple people. The Democratic Party noticed this and EVERYONE dropped to support Biden, except the one person who siphoned some votes from Bernie.
Whose ass is your source for this? Its someones ass for sure.So you think nobody did anything against Bernie? Even though the party is committed to not letting Progressives take over the party? You think everything just happened naturally?
So you think nobody did anything against Bernie? Even though the party is committed to not letting Progressives take over the party? You think everything just happened naturally?
They did. In a sense. There was definitely a lot of talks between top democrats about what to do about Bernie.
So you think nobody did anything against Bernie? Even though the party is committed to not letting Progressives take over the party? You think everything just happened naturally?
How, exactly, did they "rig" it?What you said is true. But I think it's also true that Biden had meetings or phone calls with each remaining runner, got them to drop out and support him instead of Bernie. I am pretty sure I remember some of the runners actually admitting these meetings took place
It sucks that Bernie lost, but he didn't lose because it was rigged. He lost because older voters didn't want to vote progressive, and younger voters didn't turn out as much in the primaries.
But I think it's also true that Biden had meetings or phone calls with each remaining runner, got them to drop out and support him instead of Bernie. I am pretty sure I remember some of the runners actually admitting these meetings took place
What you said is true. But I think it's also true that Biden had meetings or phone calls with each remaining runner, got them to drop out and support him instead of Bernie. I am pretty sure I remember some of the runners actually admitting these meetings took place
embarrassing that there are people in 2024 still parroting this nonsense
But it's true. Biden continued some of Trump's controversial policies, like the trade war with China, scrapping the Iran nuclear deal, moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem
So you think nobody did anything against Bernie? Even though the party is committed to not letting Progressives take over the party? You think everything just happened naturally?so your own ass.
What you said is true. But I think it's also true that Biden had meetings or phone calls with each remaining runner, got them to drop out and support him instead of Bernie. I am pretty sure I remember some of the runners actually admitting these meetings took placeMate, the issue people are having with you here is that you're posting conjecture when they're asking for sources.
basically, if we had ranked choice voting instead of winner takes all, wed probably be looking at Bernie vs Trump in 2020.How would Bernie win under ranked choice lol
How would Bernie win under ranked choice lolA lot of Bernie stans seem to run on Underpants Gnome logic.