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SerperiorThanU posted...
Then why should this bill exist in the first place? Why is Tiktok going to a US company, likely a conservative one, any better than staying where it is now other than jingoism or xenophobia?

you know twitter is banned in China right?
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thronedfire2 posted...
you know twitter is banned in China right?

but USA is the one with liberty, freedom of speech and free markets, supposedly
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thronedfire2 posted...
you know twitter is banned in China right?

Why should we want to be more like China?
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thronedfire2 posted...
you know twitter is banned in China right?
What does this have to do with the argument

Last i checked China banning social media thats critical of its government is considered a BAD THING
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did China give Elon the chance to sell a stake in twitter to a Chinese owner? I don't think so. they just outright banned it.

if you guys want to give China the advantage in information warfare you should uninstall your adblockers
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thronedfire2 posted...
did China give Elon the chance to sell a stake in twitter to a Chinese owner? I don't think so. they just outright banned it.

if you guys want to give China the advantage in information warfare you should uninstall your adblockers
Doesnt elon take money from saudis with twitter
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BlackOmnimon posted...
https://twitter.com/AndromedaPip/status/1783260859634274637

That guy is centrist book look. Scrub is the right name for him.
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thronedfire2 posted...
did China give Elon the chance to sell a stake in twitter to a Chinese owner? I don't think so. they just outright banned it.

if you guys want to give China the advantage in information warfare you should uninstall your adblockers

We have an aparthied loving, nazi sympathizer, who boosted up racist and push down left win voices. So that is the information you are standing up for.
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China is just a dog whistle.

https://twitter.com/BRICSinfo/status/1783257899147395519
squall567 posted...
China is just a dog whistle.

https://twitter.com/BRICSinfo/status/1783257899147395519

Yeah, their real reasons were always clear, but some people willingly ate up the China excuse because they just hate Tiktok.
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The people who are okay with this, would have been the same people who were okay with crack down on the Panthers .
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thronedfire2 posted...
did China give Elon the chance to sell a stake in twitter to a Chinese owner? I don't think so. they just outright banned it.

if you guys want to give China the advantage in information warfare you should uninstall your adblockers
Information warfare lol

Why would I give a fuck if the company harvesting all my personal info is American or Chinese? Neither one has noble intentions
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squall567 posted...
China is just a dog whistle.

https://twitter.com/BRICSinfo/status/1783257899147395519
Everyone with a brain knew this but it's funny to see them just say it like that.
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It's funny how the TikTok CEO is crying about free speech but yet China has like zero freedom of speech.
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squall567 posted...
China is just a dog whistle.

https://twitter.com/BRICSinfo/status/1783257899147395519

I am very critical of Israel in the current Israel/Palestine war but Hamas is a terrorist group. Why would should pro-Hamas vids be allowed? Pro-Palestinian vids showing what the IDF is doing to the Palestinian civilians is fine but vids glorifying Hamas shouldn't be allowed.
Evil_Nice_Guy posted...
I am very critical of Israel in the current Israel/Palestine war but Hamas is a terrorist group. Why would should pro-Hamas vids be allowed? Pro-Palestinian vids showing what the IDF is doing to the Palestinian civilians is fine but vids glorifying Hamas shouldn't be allowed.

You're taking the claims of a GOP politician at face value. To them, anyone critical of Israel in any way are Hamas supporters by default.
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TikTok brain rot is about as bad as Fox News brain rot
It'll be interesting when China,Russia and other adversarial nations pull an uno reverse for this on American owned companies.

"Oh you want to sell things here? You have to be divested in all ties to the US."

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ooger posted...
It'll be interesting when China,Russia and other adversarial nations pull an uno reverse for this on American owned companies.

"Oh you want to sell things here? You have to be divested in all ties to the US."
China basically requires ownership of any company doing business in China.
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mystic_belmont posted...
China basically requires ownership of any company doing business in China.
Does China own Tesla?
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ooger posted...
Does China own Tesla?

They don't own the gigafactory in Shanghai, but they do own the land under which it is built.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/27/world/asia/elon-musk-tesla-china.html

Mr. Musk did not want to share ownership of Teslas factory with a Chinese company, as was required at the time. So in 2018 officials revoked the rule for all foreign electric car companies. The change was Teslas second big win.


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mystic_belmont posted...
They don't own the gigafactory in Shanghai, but they do own the land under which it is built.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/27/world/asia/elon-musk-tesla-china.html
And yet, lo and behold, Tesla's are sold in China.
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ooger posted...
And yet, lo and behold, Tesla's are sold in China.

And:

Even the plant Tesla is building in Nuevo Len, Mexico, will use Chinese suppliers, several of whom the state governor has said will set up factories nearby.
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mystic_belmont posted...
Even the plant Tesla is building in Nuevo Len, Mexico, will use Chinese suppliers, several of whom the state governor has said will set up factories nearby.

Who owns Tesla?
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CableZL posted...
With both iOS and Android allowing sideloading, I'm not sure how they're expecting to enforce this
Well you see, those VPN bans they wanted to put in place not become a matter of national security.

Consequently, you have enforcement measures you can now use on foreign sites that don't want to honor those pesky state ID laws... and with a VPN ban no hiding either.

internet sure sounds fun
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SerperiorThanU posted...
They formed the firewall a decade ago due to being authoritarian and are the poster child of what not to act like for a free country. Again, do you want more governments to act like China? I certainly don't.

This information warfare rhetoric is hypothetical and is xenophobic fearmongering. There's no evidence it's being used criminally or dangerously. And this can apply to any Chinese business. Do you just want to ban all Chinese businesses? Is that what you mean by saying Chinese people just need to base their businesses in the US? What about refusing Chinese exchange students?
You can deal with China in a reciprocal fashion without impacting the rest of the world.

If they want to be facists, treat them that way. When they want to rejoin the rest of us and play by the rules, the let them.

This isnt hard.
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I mean, freedom of speech and all.

But damn it's hard to shed any tears over tiktok.
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SerperiorThanU posted...
This is how literally every bigot justifies their bigotry. You don't even realize that the people being affected the most aren't the fascists while the CCP themselves likely not getting hurt much by it.
Gtfo with that bullshit.

China doesnt follow international law much less American law, and they have no intention of doing so.

We have deprived absolutely no one of anything. In fact with our gift of capitalism, the Chinese shareholders of Byte Dance have everything they need to recoup their losses when it gets sold off.
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lol

Yeah I didnt think you had a response.
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On the one hand, tiktok is garbage anyway. On the other, the kids that use it know what a VPN is, so it doesn't matter anyway.
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His initial post was perfectly coherent, apart from the minor typos anyone makes on a phone
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The question I want answered is, who is taking it over in the US? That will ultimately determine my faith in the legislation on this.
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P4wn4g3 posted...
The question I want answered is, who is taking it over in the US? That will ultimately determine my faith in the legislation on this.
a right wing piece of shit. guaranteed.
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P4wn4g3 posted...
The question I want answered is, who is taking it over in the US? That will ultimately determine my faith in the legislation on this.

ByteDance have said they won't sell.

Before that, Oracle, which is co-founded by a guy who participated in text threads about overthrowing the 2020 election, would be the buyer.

Oracle currently hosts tiktok's data in the US.
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ooger posted...
ByteDance have said they won't sell.

Before that, Oracle, which is co-founded by a guy who participated in text threads about overthrowing the 2020 election, would be the buyer.

Oracle currently hosts tiktok's data in the US.
Oh OK if they aren't selling then it's a net gain for the US.
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