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LSGW_Zephyra posted...
That is a take. I might not live there, but I've been there and I've seen people ask for their food to be done to different temperatures before so idk exactly your issue was. You act like you are on a different planet or something

Burger's being cooked through isn't a take lol.
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SwayM posted...
In Canada it's very simple. You just order a burger. They don't ask you how you want it done because that's an asinine question, the same way they wouldn't ask you how you wanted your chicken done.
I like my burgers well done too, but why compare chicken with beef? They aren't even remotely the same as far as food safety is concerned.
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DrizztLink posted...
Those stupid Americans, eating undercooked minced beef.

Nothing like the rest of the civilized world, who-

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Difference is those dishes use beef that is (or at least should be) ground right before serving. That crap you buy at the supermarket, which is what most people and restaurants use, need to be cooked through because it's sitting around so long bacteria have a chance to grow.

It's the same reason you don't eat a raw slab of meat; it's at the very least seared in the outside.
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NoxObscuras posted...
I like my burgers well done too, but why compare chicken with beef? They aren't even remotely the same as far as food safety is concerned.

Its a fair comparison in my mind, its not a difference of chicken being more dangerous, to me its just as nasty. I wouldnt dream of serving or eating a raw burger.

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NoxObscuras posted...
I like my burgers well done too, but why compare chicken with beef? They aren't even remotely the same as far as food safety is concerned.

...if they're undercooked it's just as dangerous as undercooked chicken. e-coli is bad.

edit: although it does depend what the burger is made out of. commercial ground beef like you buy in the store should really be cooked to 155
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SwayM posted...
This topic is about burgers but good call, other food cultures can be gross too and I wouldn't eat any one of those dishes.

In Canada it's very simple. You just order a burger. They don't ask you how you want it done because that's an asinine question, the same way they wouldn't ask you how you wanted your chicken done.
Tell me you dont know anything about food safety without telling me you dont know anything about food safety.
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PraetorXyn posted...
Tell me you dont know anything about food safety without telling me you dont know anything about food safety.

Telling on yourself.
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Generally medium. I'll go medium rare for a thin steak.
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SwayM posted...
Telling on yourself.
Nah. Freshly ground beef is food safe at medium rare. It only has to be taken to well done when its sat in a package after being ground so bacteria has time to grow.
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Steak I order blue, burgers unfortunately need to be at least medium rare or else they tend to squish out the sides of the bun when you take a bite.
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Medium-rare.
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PraetorXyn posted...
Nah. Freshly ground beef is food safe at medium rare. It only has to be taken to well done when its sat in a package after being ground so bacteria has time to grow.

It's a little bit more than that.

"Hamburger, obviously, is made up of ground meat, and so any bacteria that was present on the surface of the cut of meat before it was ground can be introduced into the center of the hamburger patty."
But she says its different with steak. "If a steak is contaminated with a bacteria, it would usually be on the surface of the steak, so heating the surface of the steak to a high temperature is usually enough to kill off any bacteria that may be there."

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-minute-grilling-burger-vs-steak/
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SwayM posted...
Burger's being cooked through isn't a take lol.

Even a rare burger is going to be cooked thorough they aren't just going to give you an uncooked middle portion.

That being said I haven't been asked how I want my burger in a long time so maybe restaurants aren't doing that anymore.
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theAteam posted...
That being said I haven't been asked how I want my burger in a long time so maybe restaurants aren't doing that anymore.
I went to one that brought out a safety waiver for me to sign when I asked for medium or medium well (it was a while ago).

I decided to order something else.
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CommonStar posted...
Medium rare on steak.
Medium well or well done on burger.

The food here is terrible. My steak was so tough it attacked my coffee and the coffee was too weak to defend itself.
SwayM posted...
It's a little bit more than that.

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-minute-grilling-burger-vs-steak/
Yeah and the cooking process kills it as long as its freshly ground. Any butcher, any chef, any pit master, will tell you freshly ground beef is safe at medium rare.

But even for the pre-packed stuff, a medium or medium well burger isnt going to hurt you at least 9 out of 10 times so anyone screeching about it is just hilarious to me.
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I just don't really like the texture of rare ground.
The food here is terrible. My steak was so tough it attacked my coffee and the coffee was too weak to defend itself.
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RAW is the way to go baby.

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Burgers need to be well done, no questions asked. You don't mess with pink/red minced meat that is only graded for cooking and not tartar grade. Your burgers are dry and rubbery because the beef quality is F tier at grocery stores, your aluminum pan sucks, etc.

Steaks are medium rare at all times.
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theAteam posted...
Even a rare burger is going to be cooked thorough they aren't just going to give you an uncooked middle portion.
This.

theAteam posted...
That being said I haven't been asked how I want my burger in a long time so maybe restaurants aren't doing that anymore.
Nah, I work at a restaurant, it's still very much a thing outside of fast food
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PraetorXyn posted...
Yeah and the cooking process kills it as long as its freshly ground. Any butcher, any chef, any pit master, will tell you freshly ground beef is safe at medium rare.

But even for the pre-packed stuff, a medium or medium well burger isnt going to hurt you at least 9 out of 10 times so anyone screeching about it is just hilarious to me.

Continues to laugh in Canadian.

Also, I tried a "pink" burger last year and it was fucking disgusting. My mind couldn't get over the texture, it felt wrong.
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SwayM posted...
Continues to laugh in Canadian.
Are you telling us Canada has garbage meat safety, or what's your actual point here?
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SwayM posted...
Continues to laugh in Canadian.

Also, I tried a "pink" burger last year and it was fucking disgusting. My mind couldn't get over the texture, it felt wrong.

Do you eat your Steaks well done too?
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I get burgers medium-well. I'd get steaks the same, but I don't really eat steak anymore, so no biggie.
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Medium rare for steaks, am not bothered if it comes out rare though. I dont order burgers at actual restaurants so i dont think ive ever been asked about it.
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FL81 posted...
This.

Nah, I work at a restaurant, it's still very much a thing outside of fast food

what do you mean by 'this'?

if a burger is rare that literally means it's not cooked all the way through.

steak is different
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DrizztLink posted...
Are you telling us Canada has garbage meat safety, or what's your actual point here?

How you came up with the opposite conclusion idk.

LSGW_Zephyra posted...
Do you eat your Steaks well done too?


Completely different. See post #64
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medium or medium-well for burgers, medium-rare for steak
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SwayM posted...


Completely different. See post #64

That didn't answer my question
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Depends on if it's a bone-in or boneless cut of steak. Medium-rare if boneless, medium if bone-in.

I order my burger cooked, not undercooked.
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Steak is rare or medium rare.

Burger is medium, medium well.
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I'm partly deaf and my Rs aren't the best, so rare sounds like well at times, so I go with medium.
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Medium steak.

I can't remember going to a place that asks how I want my burger cooked but I want it brown all the way through.
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