Not really.People don't choose to get polio.
This is like saying the polio vaccine was a massive fuck you to people who already have polio.
People don't choose to get polio.Correct.
People don't choose to go on vacation or spend their money on entertainment or leisure in return for being injected with polio.Pointless word salad.
People don't choose to get polio.
People don't choose to go on vacation or spend their money on entertainment or leisure in return for being injected with polio.
People don't choose to get polio.
People don't choose to go on vacation or spend their money on entertainment or leisure in return for being injected with polio.
People don't choose to get polio.And the slaves that paid for their freedom? Do they deserve restitution?
People don't choose to go on vacation or spend their money on entertainment or leisure in return for being injected with polio.
Outright forgiveness is a massive fuck you to everyone who worked two jobs or took bullshit jobs or struggled or whatever the fuck else paying off shit.
Forgive interest accrued.
Go by principle amount lent and deduct lifetime payment.
Thats the only reasonable way.
Outright forgiveness is a massive fuck you to everyone who worked two jobs or took bullshit jobs or struggled or whatever the fuck else paying off shit.
Yall trying to moral grandstand on Youre being selfish is thinly veiled bullshit.
You already payed it is a callous response to Can I get my money back?.
But yall dont care because it doesnt affect you. How ironic.
the classic conundrumlmfao I love this
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5504722b.jpg
We need to treat student loans like other loans: only give them to people who statically can actually pay them back and stratify rates based on risk.
Tuition is gonna drop real fast when a 17yo can't sign up for $200k in debt for an art degree
the classic conundrum
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5504722b.jpg
How so?
Is Medicare or medicaid a big FU to those that pay for health insurance?
Only if you're petty and begrudging of others getting benefits you don't also benefit from.
Really dumb to assume that people who are pro-forgiveness are strictly people who have outstanding loans
Not really.
This is like saying the polio vaccine was a massive fuck you to people who already have polio.
Can you find a 200k art degree that you are so obviously referencing here?
Idgaf about pressure. Its still a choice. A choice that if even a sliver of students can choose to not do, I no longer care. Just because the average nitwit wont read loan agreements and actually take some forethought in life doesnt mean outright forgiveness is needed.
Tuition is gonna drop real fast when a 17yo can't sign up for $200k in debtMaybe we can regulate the loan side then. Instead of trying to dictate who is allowed to better their education.
the classic conundrum
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5504722b.jpg
Society made a seeming promise to them that with a degree they'd find a job with their degree.
Society failed to mention that all of our resumes would wind up in an AI's shred box or that our thousands of hours of blood, sweat and tears would be glossed over in 8 seconds by a hiring manager before being tossed in the (proverbial) bin if said resumes made it past the barely held together sorting algorithm.
Blaming children for accepting loans on the promise of a false future is pretty fucking cruel.
While life is cruel, we should provide for those that have been exploited and seek to shelter future generations from being exploited in a similar manner. Otherwise, what's the point of any of this? If everything is "fuck off, fuck you, got mine" or "fuck off, should've picked better" then don't be surprised when people kick you off the cliff you're dangling from.
Yall are asking forgiveness for who? Anyone who took out loans? Lmao.I was very clear.
Really need to raze that system and start it over. Forgive all student loan debt, remove all current student loan debt companies, and start fresh with better oversight and better management.
Tbh, people would probably get a bit mad at that as well as it ultimately means less people going to college. Which is not necessarily bad if jobs reduce requirements for entry level jobs
At the bare minimum student loans should legally be interest free.
Get medical debt first if you really wanna help people.
Forgiving loans and then having the same f***ing loan situation exist to just start again does nothing but give people a chance to pat themselves on the back.
Then no one would offer them other than the govt.The role of government is to provide for its citizenry.
Then no one would offer them other than the govt. And even then...I love when people say something won't work, when it already does.
Students are high risk when it comes to loans. You're giving new adults with no real credit history and little collateral tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars. If they could discharge through bankruptcy or didn't offer a profit margin through interest, no one would offer them. Itd be a really dumb investment. And then you're back to the same problem of "a college degree is a huge factor in future earnings. So the have nots will be even more screwed".
This isn't a defense of the current system. But it is a complicated issue. Without loans it'll be harder for people to get that piece of paper, but it's possible it will drive down the expectation for it. But with the infinite money right now... colleges just keep asking for more and more.
This is why I'm pro forgiveness, but ONLY AFTER we figure out how to depress costs. Otherwise it's just a giant taxpayer subsidy to colleges and banks.
Only if you dont know how analogies work. Polio is not a choice.I'd be more inclined to believe you cared about medical debt if you weren't blatantly and exclusively self-interested.
Idgaf about pressure. Its still a choice. A choice that if even a sliver of students can choose to not do, I no longer care. Just because the average nitwit wont read loan agreements and actually take some forethought in life doesnt mean outright forgiveness is needed.
Especially not before medical debt forgiveness.
Fuck off.
I'd be more inclined to believe you cared about medical debt if you weren't blatantly and exclusively self-interested.
No we don't because that will widen the gap between the already wealthy and those who are not even further. Every citizen should have a chance for a higher education to better themselves. To say otherwise is fucking stupid and will do nothing but doom your country.
Can you find a 200k art degree that you are so obviously referencing here?
Everyone would still have a chance at an education. It'll just be a significantly higher barrier to entry, which is exactly what we need with how many college graduates can't find a job in their fieldVery Republican post here.
https://news.wisc.edu/uw-madison-enrollment-tops-50000-freshman-class-includes-second-highest-number-ever-of-wisconsin-residents/
50,000 students.
They're making at least $560M off of tuition alone